If Rampage trains with Greg Jackson there is no telling how good he will become.

oh please, everyone has been saying the same thing since he trained with Juanito.

No, I dont like that he fired Juanito! the great news is that he is better and may fight wandy in November!

Did you guys read the SI article yesterday that Mania posted? How could you say you still like Juanito as his trainer after reading that article? It sounds like the best possible thing Rampage could do right now is fire his a$$!

I dont know about that, Rampage had never lost under Juanito until this last fight, which was basically a split decision anyways

yeah, I hear that his beef with Juanito is all about the money!

I didnt see the thread, until I had already posted it. My bad, I read possible Wandy vs. Rampage and got excited!

Damn, didn’t get to all the posts below that comment lol

My bad too lol

PhilQNY, I disagree cause Nog gets knocked around alot, then pulls of a submission. When was the last time you’ve seen Chuck submitted?

JV: Trust me when I tell you that Nog would beat Liddell about 7/20 times!

JV, I love that you always try to defend Chuck around here. The fact is that most of these dudes are just haters and will never give him his props, especially when it comes to fights that we all know will never happen.

JV, when did nog ever get KO’d? This is funny, I never seen it happened… He may have gotten rocked a few times, and the time you saw him getting rocked by Heath the last time they fought was the best anyone has ever, EVER gotten close to knocking him out, but it didn’t happen now did it? If Fedor, cro cop and barnett can’t do it, what makes you think chuck would be able to get a KO?

Linx, JV never said that Chuck would KO Nog. He was simply saying that Chuck could definatly hang with Nog since he submitts people and when have you ever seen Chuck get submitted?

but tell me, and hopefully your answer is not babalu or vitor belfort, when was the last time chuck ever fought a high talented BJJ practioner with the level of nog’s?

In order to apply BJJ he has to be taken down first. Chuck has an uncanny abilitly to avoid takedowns and if he is taken down he gets back up immediatly. I believe Randy has the best and most explosive takedowns in the business and Chuck was able to repeatedly stuff or get back up immediatly.

Chuck can avoiud the takedowns at 205, but Nog IMO, could definetly get him to the mat. Nog is HUGE!!!

Chuck is great, but other than Couture/Vitor and Overeem, I am not very impressed by his resume….

OK BNF, you win, it is impossible to take chuck down and even more impossible to apply a submission and even more impossible for him to tap. It’s impossible and it will never happen, so I take it back, no one will submit chuck ever in his career!

Sarcasm aside, many wild stuff has happened in MMA that just puzzles us (such as lil nog getting knocked the F out!). so I wouldn’t say just because chuck fought a bunch of wrestlers and mid level bjj guys that there is just no way a HW champion who just happen to have the BEST BJJ game would not submit him… I mean, that’s just crazy to think that… there is a first time for everything my friend, I would actually be surprised if a fight between big nog/chuck went down without chuck being submitted. Just being honest :)

PS: Chuck has been taken down, kept down, and beaten down until his corner felt there would be no way for him to get away from the position he was getting r8ped by… guess who… rampage! So in fact chuck has been taken down, and beaten on the ground! So it wouldn’t be a first.

many wild stuff has happened in MMA that just puzzles us (such as lil nog getting knocked the F out!). so I wouldn’t say just because chuck fought a bunch of wrestlers and mid level bjj guys that there is just no way a HW champion who just happen to have the BEST BJJ game would not submit him… there is a first time for everything my friend, I would actually be surprised if a fight between big nog/chuck went down without chuck being submitted. Just being honest :)

PS: Chuck has been taken down, kept down, and beaten down until his corner felt there would be no way for him to get away from the position he was getting r8ped by… guess who… rampage! So in fact chuck has been taken down, and beaten on the ground! So it wouldn’t be a first.

got censored, took the sarcasm out, now I got two posts LOL, sorry about the double posts.

Look, there is no need to be sarcastic. I don’t want to take anything away from Nog. He is a great champion and I am very happy he is representing the UFC HW division. Crazy things happen all the time like Herring not finishing off Nog after he rocked him with that kick. He can be finished, just like Chuck can be submitted. I just don’t believe that Chuck would get “rapped” or “doesn’t belong in the same cage” as Nog.

BNF, I’m sarcastic sometimes, I’m not trying to make your ideas seem f00lish at all, just my way of being, sorry if I sounded too engaging. But like you said, anything can happen, and I still would be surprised if chuck went the distance with big nog. He’s just too big and too talented.

All good…

Just got back on this thread and dam, didnt expect to see this. Thanks BNF, for clearing up what I said. I never said Chuck would KO Nog, but Im 100% sure he can make it a bada*s fight. I just dont get the hate for Chuck??? And maybe Im biased cause hes one of my favorite fighters. And Ill go ahead and say this, Nog as a champ sucks. A guy that gets beat on in his fights and then pulls of a sub is not a good champ. Couture beating Tim every round for 5 rounds, then beating on a big young guy in Gonzaga to retain his belt, THATS A CHAMP!

JV, it’s not his fault though, nog wanted to fight randy but randy ran always, what was he to do? and btw, nog will always win his fight against bigger ppl in this manner… might as well get used to it :)

BNF: I think I’m also biased (big surprise?) towards nog ‘cause he’s also one of my favs.

linx, I just cant stand that the same guys bashing Chuck now are the same ones that used to cheer for him back in the day. When that fighter gets a bit past his prime, then you hear Chuck cant do this, and Chuck cant do that, now hes called Chucky, Chuck is overrated, Chuck is a poster boy, Chuck is Danas boy and all other gay shit. THATS BEING A HATER RIGHT!!!

Linx, I can say that I am absolutly biased towards Chuck because he is my favorite fighter. I am also a fan of Nog. With that said, JV, I think you should give him a chance. He just became the UFC champion so lets see how he preforms agaisn’t Mir.

BNF, I just said that to be an a$$. Im not a fan of Nog but regardless of how he wins he does win. And Nog definatly has alot of heart, I can repect that. Think about this… Nog’s got wear & tear and when he starts loseing then people say he’s overrated and he’s sucks. Would that not get on your nerves? That the fans all of a sudden say hes overrated and call him Noggy.

linx, my reply to you is in moderation I guess???

JV, I at least can say I was never a fan of chuck, but I understand some ppl change boats frequently. That’s just not me though, take wandy for example, he lost three in a row and I never gave up on him. He’s still my favorite fighter, more so than any other. nog also lost twice to fedor and he’s still one of my favorites (but fedor is also one of my favorites so I guess that’s a wash).

shogun is another example, I know he can become champion of the LHW division, I won’t give up on him just because he lost to overhyped and overrated forrest (see, I just don’t change boats frequently LOL :) )

So then you can understand where Im coming from linx. And Im a big fan of Wanderlei also, win or lose he makes it exciting. And for the record: I wasnt saying names, it was just in general of wagon jumpers.

Wow that made even less sense than your first post!!!

If you can’t type in English as it is clearly not your first language then I suggest you find a blog in your native tongue of Mongolian.

Minotauro will take Mir and Werdum for sure but the Werdum fight will cleary be the closest of the two.

Mir’s jits is good but Im sorry he is not subbing Noguiera any time soon whereas Werdum is noticeably more aggressive since training at Chute Boxe and I could see him possibly pulling out the win if he’s on his A-game.

i persoally think he doesnt deserve a title shot even with a win

the ufc dont make any sense…. AA is an exciting fighter but then he meets with werdum who is basically not!

it was a dull fight but AA clearly won but they end up droppin him instead of werdum!

AA wins but goes on 2 have his last fight in the ufc againt o’brian

werdum losses but has fights against credible opponents such as gonzaga and vera

and the vera fight was a really bad stoppage!!!

its utter bulls**t

AA is out of the UFC because they didn’t want to pay him $750K for one fight. Affliction gave him $500K to fight an IFL fighter (albeit a good one), Ben Rothwell. And then they paid him $250K for the win. AA better hope that they pay him $800K to fight Fedor, because he’s not going to get any win bonus after that fight.

werdum was cheaper! thats why he’s still in the ufc and a.a. isnt. werdum has some talent though.

I agree. When I first saw the thread, I was like WHO is he fighting, and why a number 1 contender match. But then I thought for all of about 1 second and realized that even I, just as recently as yesterday, said that Werdum should be next in line for a title shot. Therefor I have no problem with this match up. Its not Werdum’s fault that the UFC has no good HW’s to fight him.

By now, we have learned that they don’t always have #1 contender matches. Rather, they sometimes have fights where if one guy wins, he gets a title shot, but if the other guy wins, than he is just the spoiler and the division moves on. I really can’t think of an instance where someone fighting for a title shot against a can lost to the can. Can anyone?

John, “Vai Cavalo” means “go horse”, I’m thinking it’s because of his looks LOL, but I don’t know the origins for his nickname.

yeah, I can understand a lot of Portuguese because some of it is very similar to Italian. The only major difference that is the words that end with ao.

I know that it means go horse, but does it translate to Lets Go horse? or is it simply Go Horse?

it would be translated as someone calling him a horse, such as “go horse” or “go fabricio”. It’s calling him a horse while saying GO, it’s a funny nick name, I bet it took a while for him to accept it. There was a time when I did BJJ, I only did it for about 6 months way back in my highschool years, and they gave me a nickname that I hated. but it really sticks to you if you show you don’t like it, I’m guessing that’s what happened to him…

john. it could have been mil mascaras! is he still alive?

you can add me to that jelous list as well!

my question would be… are there any chances you’d get rid of the censuring tool in your site? It’s really annoying sometimes when we write stuff that has no hatred at all and only see it posted two hours later…

Kevin, you’re bringing some nice ideas for us to communicate better :p

thanks linx, I agree with your question, I have some great thoughts from earlier in the week still sitting somewhere in cyberspace (or mania computer)

Wow, what a list of trainers. Everyone is going to want to be on Team Nogueira!

Nogs english is actually pretty good, I dont think he will have trouble yelling instructions.

Hopefully Eddie Soars has his whole camp taking english lessons

I know I must be crazy, but I’m starting to think TUF 8 will be USA vs Brazil. I just can’t picture big nog, anderson silva and machida yelling instructions while a fight is going on, I’m thinking they’ll bring 16 Americans and 16 Brazilians, have the first fight to get rid of the weakest links between the Americans and Brazilians, and then have the final 8 Americans against the final 8 Brazilians. I know this may see a bit far stretched but I don’t think it would be impossible, it would be something new to the TUF shows and they sure need changes…

Also, I remember reading somewhere a quote from DW about a month ago that he said he found the new Anderson Silva, he was saying how this guy was just destroying everyone in the show, it’ll be interesting to see who it is and if it’s true, since DW always hype stuff out of proportion…

TUF: USA vs. Brazil is an amazing idea. Great stuff LInx!

hopefully Team Nog has some good translators or else nobody on that team is learning anything… Robert Drysdale would school anyone on that list in BJJ also, so I think Mir’s team would be the better of the two

he was a different fighter when he had the title!

Thats not the point though,is it? He was involved in a very bad accident,which was no fault of his own.He came back too early because he has a family to support.He looks like he may be recapturing some of his old form,so the ufc are giving him a shot at the title he never lost.Having said that,i don’t think he’s got much a of a chance against Nog.

what have u done for us Lately? thats the question!

Arlovski became very timid after the rematch with Timmy. Thier 3rd fight was such a snoozer. The Pit Bull became gun shy. No Top Tier HW has lost twice to Timmy. In fact, most of the TOP HW’s that Timmy fought, are the losses on his record. The competition that Andre faced while HW champ was laughable to say the least. PPV’s headlined with him fighting Paul Buentello and JUSTIN EILERS!

But he did look ok against Pedapano, but then came the fight against Werdum where he looked awful.

That is where people get the idea that Andrei is not a top HW. I’d have to say that he is a Top Tier HW, but he is NOT on the level of a Fedor or Big Nog.

He is on a 4 fight win streak now… id say hes doing something right

I’d say like 7 out of 10 for Nog. Randy could pull off a few decision wins by ustilizing the clinch, taking Nog down and staying active on top and using his superb sub defense to stay alive.

However, Big Nog has the better standup and of course, the better BJJ.

VM: I dont think Couture would be very eager to take Nog down. I know Randy has good sub defense, but I am not so sure he can defend hiself on the ground against Nog.

7/10 seems more approproiate!

Mir didn’t have a very good plan going into the Vera fight…

VM-

Now that’s an understatement!!!