John Alessio: Elite XC signs veteran welterweight to contract

you love brazilian guys eh?

he’s brazilian

so elite xc kidnapped this kid from high school and is making him fight in locked cages!?!?! :0

That’s what I’m saying. I commented on the picture as soon as I saw it. My comment is below….. lol

lol even the background is something from high school prom or some nonsense

“good luck in the cages jonnie! ill never forget all the bongs we smoked in our parents basement!” that shoulda been the caption mania come on!

Favorites:

GSP
BJ
Diego
Leben
Wand

Irrational Hate:

Chuck
Kos
Lindland
Nick Diaz

Overrated:

Evans
Sylvia
Karo
Pulver

Overhyped:

Kimbo
TDK

;)

Favorites: (i just cant leave these guys off my list)
Fedor is my favorite because he is the G.O.A.T
Bj Penn
Anderson Silva
Rampage
Shogun
Takanori Gomi
Kazushi Sakuraba
Genki sudo
Wanderlei
Nogueira
nick Diaz
Alves

Overrated:
Forrest
Rashad
Karo
Lutter
lawler
Koschek

Overhyped (Not their fault):
Kimbo
Brock

My Faves

Wandy
BJ
A.Silva
Shogun
Nick Diaz

Honorable mention…."Lightning" Lee Murray

favs

henderson
barnett
fedor
shogun
bj
aioki
nog
serra
to many

overrated

most of the tuf fighters
forrest
evans

overhyped

kimbo
lesnar

LOOK AT ALL THESE CHEATERS BREAKING THE RULE OF 5.

I abided by the rules, for once, but I sure could have listed more than 5 for any category.

Maybe next time we should list of favorite fighter or two for each weight division. That would give it a little structure. Or even further, your favorite UFC fighter and favorite non-UFC fighter for each division…

These lists have turned to pure craziness!! LOL

QUICK QUESTION: I see Jardine popping up on a lot of Overrated lists. He has wins over Chuck Liddell and the current LHW champ, Forrest Griffin. Yeah he got demoslished twice, but he is not overrated, if anything, he is UNDERrated. His name never came up in the title picture (before Wandi fight) when it should have, but he has no personality, hence he is underrated. Now to the qustion… IF Rashad Evan beats Liddell convincingly, is he still over-rated?

I know mike, my rules specifically said 5!!!!

Favorites
Arlovski
Franklin
Okami
Uno
Sherk
Over rated
Kimbo
Gonzaga
Randy
Irvin
Jardine

forrest is overrated? hes the champion… that makes a lot of sense

lol can you imagine Kongo vs Couture? thats almost as bad as Silva vs Cote

i see alot of guys who have machida and forrest on their overated and overhyped list, but no rampage. he belongs on either the most overated or most overhyped list way more than either of these 2.

No way, compare his record to both of theirs, he’s put an ass woopin on some of the best fighers in the world, Chuck Liddell, Ricardo Arona, Dan Henderson, Matt Lindland. Rampage isn’t overhyped/overrated what other wrestler out there could knock someone out in K-1 level striking?? His resume speaks for itself.

Sorry if this posts twice but I was getting moderated for some reason, that is just BS, Rampage is not over hyped or overrated, he’s fought/beaten better competition than both those guys, and he’s also gone over to K-1 and knocked out Ciril Abidi, then came back again and decisioned him. What other wrestler in MMA, could roll with a guy like Dan Henderson AND switch over to K-1 striking level and be successful.

hes also been beaten by some of the best in mma. 2 times to wandi and shogun and once to forrest. alot of people though he lost his fight to matt lindland as well. hes had some great wins as well, so him being overated is not so, but overhyped, yes. part of being a great mma fighter is having mental toughness as well, and recently he has not done so well in that department. how can you say that page has beaten better competition than forrest, when forrest just beat him and before that beat shogun who whoopped rampage’s a$$ twice. rampage dont suck, but if your gonna put forrest and machida on those lists, rampage is gonna have to be there as well.

Wow, so Forrest beats a Shogun that didn’t even have an ACL to train on and couldn’t get his cardio up for the fight. Then he beats a Rampage Jackson who obviously wasn’t mentally there for that fight. Are you trying to tell me that in both those fights his opponents were at %100?? Sure thats not Forrests fault that they weren’t all there for the fight but the FACT is that he wasn’t fighting either guy at their best. And besides those TWO fighters who else has he beaten?? Wasn’t he knocked out by Jardine just before his fight with Shogun???

 Forrest is definatley overrated, sure he caught two of the best fighters in the game at a good time, neither guy was in shape be it physically or mentally to be fighting. Is there any argument that he won those fights? NO sure enough Forrest won. But I can’t give credit where it’s not due. Until he either beats one of them when they’re at %100 or he defends that title a couple times he’s overrated in my eyes.

And if your gonna bring up “A lot of people thought Lindland won that fight against rampage” Then it’s fair for me to bring up “A lot of people feel that Rampage won that fight against Forrest.”

excuses, excuses.i guess everybody forrest fights from here on out will not be 100% until he loses. you kinda made my point for me. fighters had better make sure they bring their “a game” against forrest or there are gonna be alot more “upsets”. machida is not overated or overhyped either imo.

Rampage did not loose to LIndland. I watched that fight about 20 times, an not once could I come to the conclusion that Lindl;and won that fight. THat was all Rampage and I dont even know why its even a debate.

I’m not making excuses for anyone, they lost their fights. Plain and simple, Forrest won. But he didn’t beat either fighter at their best and thats a fact, are you saying that A) Rampage was at %100 and there was absolutley nothing wrong with his mentality going into that fight, Rampage looked the best we’ve ever seen him and still got beat. And B) Shogun had no physical ailments whatsoever, Shogun was also %100 and Forrest is completely better than him all around. If either of these fights happen again Forrest will outclass both of them and completely dominate?

  I just wanna know where your coming from, why is it that Shogun being hurt is not a factor whatsoever are you saying that Shogun faked an injury to have an excuse after he lost? Or Rampage having a mental breakdown isn’t taken into account at all? Are you saying that 2 weeks after the fight he just acted like he was nuts for the hell of it? How is that a fair assessment of Forrests skills? You say “excuses, excuses” but the truth is that he caught some good breaks. And no in the future I think we’ll see where Forrest is really at, there’s no possible way that EVERY person he fights is going to come in injured/unprepared. Like I said after 1 or 2 good title defenses I’ll eat my words, but right now IMO he’s on a lucky streak, he caught 2 of the best LHW’s in the world at a good time.

everyone knows that forrest had a bad shoulder before the shougun fight. it was so bad that he needed surgery that kept him out for nine months. you dont hear me crying about that (wait, i dont have to, he won!)no i dont think shogun faked his injury and i think rampage losing to forrest had alot to do with his mental state afterwards, not before. i really think your missing my original point in that if your gonna say forrest and machida are overated or overhyped then i dont see how you can come up with a viable excuse as to why rampage isnts as well. he only made 1 title defense and lost and was never the pride champ. i actually dont think rampage is overated, but neither is forrest or machida. lets let forrest defend a couple of times and then see where things stand. keep thinking that forrest is just “lucky”, i like that. and you need to come up with some reasons why you think machida is overated and overhyped as well. that is where i am coming from, so if you dont get it now, you probably never will. i dont agree with you and you dont agree with me and on this issue we probably never will.

Lol, a mental breakdown doesn’t just happen out of nowhere. He wasn’t 100% there mentally for the Forrest fight and then in 2 weeks just completely lost it. Go read that latest post about Rampage; and your still saying that that fight was all Forrest? Rampage being out of it had nothing to to do with it? And Machida I say is overrated cause he’s only had 13 fights. Granted he’s undefeated but how does beating 13 guys make you one of the best fighters in the world?

because those 13 wins include a ko of rich franklin and soku and wins over b.j. (a fat one) and jacob and that aint too shabby. i have to get off my pc, so you win……..for now. peace!

Later

I think that its pretty safe to say by now that most everyone on this site knows who my favorite fighters are, and the one’s that I do not care for.

FAVORITE Fighters
Nick Diaz
Nate Diaz
Dan Henderson
Jon Fitch
Chris Leben

OVERRATED Fighters
Kos
Roger Huerta
Brock Lesnar
Gina Carano
Miguel Torres (LOLOLOL, just kidding about that one!)

HATED Fighers (for a reason, or no reason)
Bisping
Kos
GSP
KJ Noons
Karo

MOST RESPECTED Fighters Walking the Planet
Fedor
Anderson

Fighter almost ready to make a HUGE splash:
Rafael Feijao

Another fighter that is going to make a HUGE splash is, Luis Cane!!…
Wait until he starts fighting higher end 205er’s like Chuck,Wanderlei,T.Silva,Machida…

It all starts with Soko!..And it sucks because I like Soko..But he is going to lose..

Favorites – theres too many
BJ, Kendall Grove, whole Ceaser Gracie Camp, thiago silva, Leben, Diego, Tito, Chuck, Hendo, Serra, Faber, Vera, JZ, Mahem, Big Nog, new to the list: Maia, Kala hose

Overrated but not hated
Cote, Huerta, Kos, Gomi

sh*t in my pants if i see them
Rampage, Brock, Cyborg,

Stagger, I think that with even more potential than Luis Cane, is Cain Velasquez. That kid is LEGIT!

how can you hate GSP mike? youre in a very slim demographic there… word drop!

Yeah,l I forgot about a lot of guys. KJ is definetly on the over rated list. THat guy is a joke!

i forgot about him, and a few others

thats how I was all night at work chef! The things that keep you going!

Would’ve put Baroni on most hated, but I mellowed on the guy a bit after that douche headbutted and he handled it with class. kevin, i remember you saying one time that you sometimes sit around and think about how to respond to certain posts and that it takes up more than just “hobby” time. I’m the same way! I’ll be revising this godforsaken list 50 times all day long! Thanks for the distraction. lol

yeah chef, I work all night, so i’m usually bored, but had been on this site all day! Gets me pumped when events are coming up. it’s funny, I thought i’d run out of “conversations” but every night I kinda get a new idea. Still taking requests if you guys want me to break something down for you!

Both! lol

I agree, craziness aside page is one of the best!

i like dan and am not a fan of ken’s but if ken had fought in all the small shows and fought the people dan fought he would have a record better than dans.