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John Alessio: Elite XC signs veteran welterweight to contract

John Alessio
Elite XC recently added a new fighter to its stable of welterweight contenders to challenge newly-crowned champion, Jake Shields. Former UFC and WEC veteran, John Alessio (23-11), has inked a three fight deal with the promotion, according FiveOuncesOfPain.com.

Alessio has a winless record (0-3) in the UFC against some pretty stiff competition. After losing to Pat Miletich (submission) at UFC 26 back in 2000, he returned to the Octagon in 2006 to lose two close matches to division standouts Diego Sanchez (decision) and Thiago Alves (decision).

After his departure from the UFC, Alessio landed with another Zuffa-owned mixed martial arts company -- the WEC. He was able to put together a solid record (5-2) in his time there, with his only losses coming to division champion, Carlos Condit (submission), and former number one contender, Brock Larson, by way of disqualification.

In his most recent fight, Alessio slapped a rear naked choke on former UFC competitor, Pete Spratt, in the second round of their fight with Banner Promotions - "Night of Combat" -- June 20. However, he sustained a broken arm in the fight, which means that his appearance inside the Elite XC cage could be later rather than sooner.

This is one of those solid, but not great pick ups for Elite XC. In Alessio, they have a guy who will fight hard for them on any given fight card. And with his experience he should bring some added credibility to his opponents and the fights in which he competes.

Elite XC should, at the very least, be able to pull a decent number one contender match out of this signing by putting Alessio in there with another title hopeful or two.

In fact, guys like Jay Heiron (if he signs), Hector Lombard and Paul "Semtex" Daley might be able to use a win against a hard-nosed crafty veteran such as Alessio to score themselves a shot at Jake Shields' gold.

Who knows, maybe Alessio might shock a few people and earn a shot at that strap himself. It's possible.

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WED. MORNING CONVERSATION WITH KEVIN:
Ok guys, after the bashfest yesterday, I came up with something good. I know very little about most of you, so how bout this. list your 5 favorite fighters, 5 most over rated fighters and 5 most over hyped fighters. Here’s mine.
Favorite:
Anderson Silva
BJ Penn
Nick Diaz
Wanderlaii
Diego Sanchez
5 most over rated:
Kos
Serra (1 quality win doesn’t make you top 5)
Frank Trigg
Frank Shamrock (now, a win over Baroni doesn’t earn you 2 title shots)
Gonzaga
5 most over hyped:
Kimbo
Lesner
Huerta
Vera (begining to look this way)
Gonzaga

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Fav-
BJ Penn
Evan Tanner
A. Silva
W. Silva
Genki Sudo

Overrated (IMO)-
Paulo Filho
Gonzaga
Kung Le
Lawler
Aoki

Overhyped-
Kimbo (not his fault)

by Haze on Jul 29, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just going to list my favs (in order of favoritism):

wanderlei silva
anderson silva
shogun
fedor
big nog

I don’t feel like bashing fighters today :)

by linx on Jul 29, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

you love brazilian guys eh?

by brendan on Jul 29, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s brazilian

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

so elite xc kidnapped this kid from high school and is making him fight in locked cages!?!?! :0

by brendan on Jul 29, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I’m saying. I commented on the picture as soon as I saw it. My comment is below….. lol

by ViolentMike on Jul 29, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol even the background is something from high school prom or some nonsense

by brendan on Jul 29, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

“good luck in the cages jonnie! ill never forget all the bongs we smoked in our parents basement!” that shoulda been the caption mania come on!

by brendan on Jul 29, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorites:

GSP
BJ
Diego
Leben
Wand

Irrational Hate:

Chuck
Kos
Lindland
Nick Diaz

Overrated:

Evans
Sylvia
Karo
Pulver

Overhyped:

Kimbo
TDK

;)

by OJR on Jul 29, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorites: (i just cant leave these guys off my list)
Fedor is my favorite because he is the G.O.A.T
Bj Penn
Anderson Silva
Rampage
Shogun
Takanori Gomi
Kazushi Sakuraba
Genki sudo
Wanderlei
Nogueira
nick Diaz
Alves

Overrated:
Forrest
Rashad
Karo
Lutter
lawler
Koschek

Overhyped (Not their fault):
Kimbo
Brock

by john on Jul 29, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Faves

Wandy
BJ
A.Silva
Shogun
Nick Diaz

Honorable mention…."Lightning" Lee Murray

by MoonUK on Jul 29, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

favs

henderson
barnett
fedor
shogun
bj
aioki
nog
serra
to many

overrated

most of the tuf fighters
forrest
evans

overhyped

kimbo
lesnar

by roy on Jul 29, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOOK AT ALL THESE CHEATERS BREAKING THE RULE OF 5.

I abided by the rules, for once, but I sure could have listed more than 5 for any category.

Maybe next time we should list of favorite fighter or two for each weight division. That would give it a little structure. Or even further, your favorite UFC fighter and favorite non-UFC fighter for each division…

These lists have turned to pure craziness!! LOL

QUICK QUESTION: I see Jardine popping up on a lot of Overrated lists. He has wins over Chuck Liddell and the current LHW champ, Forrest Griffin. Yeah he got demoslished twice, but he is not overrated, if anything, he is UNDERrated. His name never came up in the title picture (before Wandi fight) when it should have, but he has no personality, hence he is underrated. Now to the qustion… IF Rashad Evan beats Liddell convincingly, is he still over-rated?

by ViolentMike on Jul 29, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know mike, my rules specifically said 5!!!!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice overrated list, Cung and Paulo I didn’t think of, completely agree. Sonnen is going to destroy Filho this time around.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite’s;(in no order)

Nick Diaz
GSP
BJ Penn
Fedor
Wanderlei
Anderson
Rampage
…I know more then 5 but I cant cut my list down anymore then that,

Overhyped/Rated

Forrest
Kimbo
Gonzaga
Jardine
Lesnar

by Stagger-Lee on Jul 29, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorites
Arlovski
Franklin
Okami
Uno
Sherk
Over rated
Kimbo
Gonzaga
Randy
Irvin
Jardine

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jul 29, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

forrest is overrated? hes the champion… that makes a lot of sense

by brendan on Jul 29, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

still dont understand how kos doesnt get any respect. all he does is win and evolve as a fighter. how many people can say theyve beaten diego, lytle, and gone the distance with gsp?
way too much heat on gonzaga, he lost one fight to werdum in a fight i think he was winning. he’s 10-3 with his only losses coming to couture and werdum, how can the guy be overrated and overhyped

by Bobby O'shea on Jul 29, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can a guy go from title shot to not televised? cro cop was the reason!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The over hype on Gonzaga definatley came after the Cro Cop knock out. No way was he the most deserving of a title shot at HW, I think at the time Kongo should have been a little higher up on the ladder than Gonzaga. It was like his fluke knock out (I mean come on, high kick to cro cop for a ko? Thats ironic as hell…) gets him a title shot? Kos I agree with deserves some props, he’s definatley getting better, you could really see his stand up improve in that fight with Hazelette, he might be hated on for his attitude/way he carries himself but there’s no doubt that guy is a good fighter.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol can you imagine Kongo vs Couture? thats almost as bad as Silva vs Cote

by brendan on Jul 29, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it’s hard to narrow every list to just five guys, and Ben Rothwell probably belongs in the Over Rated column too. As far as the hype on Rothwell I guess maybe he wasn’t too over hyped on the affliction card but since I went over the # on the over rated he got bumped to over hyped along with Babalu.

Favorite:
Randy Couture
Wanderlei Silva
Rampage Jackson
Dan Henderson
Rich Franklin

Over Rated:
Gonzaga
Kongo
Leben
Jardine
Forrest (tied w/ Machida, although I think Machida is better than Forrest.)

Over Hyped:
Kimbo
Gonzaga
Leben
Rothwell
Babalu

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, list is tough to narrow to 5. Favorite is easy, other 2 are tough. favs mania, I know you have to be objective in journalism, so I don’t expect overrated or hyped!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

i see alot of guys who have machida and forrest on their overated and overhyped list, but no rampage. he belongs on either the most overated or most overhyped list way more than either of these 2.

by b.w. on Jul 29, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way, compare his record to both of theirs, he’s put an ass woopin on some of the best fighers in the world, Chuck Liddell, Ricardo Arona, Dan Henderson, Matt Lindland. Rampage isn’t overhyped/overrated what other wrestler out there could knock someone out in K-1 level striking?? His resume speaks for itself.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry if this posts twice but I was getting moderated for some reason, that is just BS, Rampage is not over hyped or overrated, he’s fought/beaten better competition than both those guys, and he’s also gone over to K-1 and knocked out Ciril Abidi, then came back again and decisioned him. What other wrestler in MMA, could roll with a guy like Dan Henderson AND switch over to K-1 striking level and be successful.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes also been beaten by some of the best in mma. 2 times to wandi and shogun and once to forrest. alot of people though he lost his fight to matt lindland as well. hes had some great wins as well, so him being overated is not so, but overhyped, yes. part of being a great mma fighter is having mental toughness as well, and recently he has not done so well in that department. how can you say that page has beaten better competition than forrest, when forrest just beat him and before that beat shogun who whoopped rampage’s a$$ twice. rampage dont suck, but if your gonna put forrest and machida on those lists, rampage is gonna have to be there as well.

by b.w. on Jul 29, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, so Forrest beats a Shogun that didn’t even have an ACL to train on and couldn’t get his cardio up for the fight. Then he beats a Rampage Jackson who obviously wasn’t mentally there for that fight. Are you trying to tell me that in both those fights his opponents were at %100?? Sure thats not Forrests fault that they weren’t all there for the fight but the FACT is that he wasn’t fighting either guy at their best. And besides those TWO fighters who else has he beaten?? Wasn’t he knocked out by Jardine just before his fight with Shogun???

 Forrest is definatley overrated, sure he caught two of the best fighters in the game at a good time, neither guy was in shape be it physically or mentally to be fighting. Is there any argument that he won those fights? NO sure enough Forrest won. But I can’t give credit where it’s not due. Until he either beats one of them when they’re at %100 or he defends that title a couple times he’s overrated in my eyes.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if your gonna bring up “A lot of people thought Lindland won that fight against rampage” Then it’s fair for me to bring up “A lot of people feel that Rampage won that fight against Forrest.”

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

excuses, excuses.i guess everybody forrest fights from here on out will not be 100% until he loses. you kinda made my point for me. fighters had better make sure they bring their “a game” against forrest or there are gonna be alot more “upsets”. machida is not overated or overhyped either imo.

by b.w. on Jul 29, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rampage did not loose to LIndland. I watched that fight about 20 times, an not once could I come to the conclusion that Lindl;and won that fight. THat was all Rampage and I dont even know why its even a debate.

by john on Jul 29, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not making excuses for anyone, they lost their fights. Plain and simple, Forrest won. But he didn’t beat either fighter at their best and thats a fact, are you saying that A) Rampage was at %100 and there was absolutley nothing wrong with his mentality going into that fight, Rampage looked the best we’ve ever seen him and still got beat. And B) Shogun had no physical ailments whatsoever, Shogun was also %100 and Forrest is completely better than him all around. If either of these fights happen again Forrest will outclass both of them and completely dominate?

  I just wanna know where your coming from, why is it that Shogun being hurt is not a factor whatsoever are you saying that Shogun faked an injury to have an excuse after he lost? Or Rampage having a mental breakdown isn’t taken into account at all? Are you saying that 2 weeks after the fight he just acted like he was nuts for the hell of it? How is that a fair assessment of Forrests skills? You say “excuses, excuses” but the truth is that he caught some good breaks. And no in the future I think we’ll see where Forrest is really at, there’s no possible way that EVERY person he fights is going to come in injured/unprepared. Like I said after 1 or 2 good title defenses I’ll eat my words, but right now IMO he’s on a lucky streak, he caught 2 of the best LHW’s in the world at a good time.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone knows that forrest had a bad shoulder before the shougun fight. it was so bad that he needed surgery that kept him out for nine months. you dont hear me crying about that (wait, i dont have to, he won!)no i dont think shogun faked his injury and i think rampage losing to forrest had alot to do with his mental state afterwards, not before. i really think your missing my original point in that if your gonna say forrest and machida are overated or overhyped then i dont see how you can come up with a viable excuse as to why rampage isnts as well. he only made 1 title defense and lost and was never the pride champ. i actually dont think rampage is overated, but neither is forrest or machida. lets let forrest defend a couple of times and then see where things stand. keep thinking that forrest is just “lucky”, i like that. and you need to come up with some reasons why you think machida is overated and overhyped as well. that is where i am coming from, so if you dont get it now, you probably never will. i dont agree with you and you dont agree with me and on this issue we probably never will.

by b.w. on Jul 29, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, a mental breakdown doesn’t just happen out of nowhere. He wasn’t 100% there mentally for the Forrest fight and then in 2 weeks just completely lost it. Go read that latest post about Rampage; and your still saying that that fight was all Forrest? Rampage being out of it had nothing to to do with it? And Machida I say is overrated cause he’s only had 13 fights. Granted he’s undefeated but how does beating 13 guys make you one of the best fighters in the world?

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

because those 13 wins include a ko of rich franklin and soku and wins over b.j. (a fat one) and jacob and that aint too shabby. i have to get off my pc, so you win……..for now. peace!

by b.w. on Jul 29, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Later

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorites are:
Chuck, Wanderlei, Anderson, Couture, GSP

Overrated are:
Machida, Vera, Kos, Aoki, Shields

Overhyped are:
Kimbo, Machida, Cung le, Vera, Filho

This is what I came up with off the top of my head. Theres definatly alot more Overrated and overhyped out there.

by JV on Jul 29, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that its pretty safe to say by now that most everyone on this site knows who my favorite fighters are, and the one’s that I do not care for.

FAVORITE Fighters
Nick Diaz
Nate Diaz
Dan Henderson
Jon Fitch
Chris Leben

OVERRATED Fighters
Kos
Roger Huerta
Brock Lesnar
Gina Carano
Miguel Torres (LOLOLOL, just kidding about that one!)

HATED Fighers (for a reason, or no reason)
Bisping
Kos
GSP
KJ Noons
Karo

MOST RESPECTED Fighters Walking the Planet
Fedor
Anderson

Fighter almost ready to make a HUGE splash:
Rafael Feijao

by ViolentMike on Jul 29, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another fighter that is going to make a HUGE splash is, Luis Cane!!…
Wait until he starts fighting higher end 205er’s like Chuck,Wanderlei,T.Silva,Machida…

It all starts with Soko!..And it sucks because I like Soko..But he is going to lose..

by Stagger-Lee on Jul 29, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorites – theres too many
BJ, Kendall Grove, whole Ceaser Gracie Camp, thiago silva, Leben, Diego, Tito, Chuck, Hendo, Serra, Faber, Vera, JZ, Mahem, Big Nog, new to the list: Maia, Kala hose

Overrated but not hated
Cote, Huerta, Kos, Gomi

sh*t in my pants if i see them
Rampage, Brock, Cyborg,

by kama kaze on Jul 29, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stagger, I think that with even more potential than Luis Cane, is Cain Velasquez. That kid is LEGIT!

by ViolentMike on Jul 29, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can you hate GSP mike? youre in a very slim demographic there… word drop!

by brendan (on TheNEgation's case) on Jul 30, 2008 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Favorites:
Franklin
Fedor
Silva
Leben
Guida

over rated:
Karo
Huerta
Shamrock
Gamburyan (sp?)
Couture -not that he’s bad, but I’m sick of people saying he will beat Fedor

Over hyped:
Kimbo
KJ Noons
gonzaga
God, this is hard!
That kid who just lost the TUF finals (having a brainfart)
Griffin-I like him, but don’t see him holding the belt for long
How about top 5 fighters you LOVE to HATE for no reason?
Bisping
Karo
Noons
Bisping (yeah I know, but I LOVE to hate him)
Danzig

That gave me a migraine!

by chefdaddy on Jul 29, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

kj was on my original and Karo was too. I thought of mine around 1 am and didn’t write it down, and forgot…they were all so close!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,l I forgot about a lot of guys. KJ is definetly on the over rated list. THat guy is a joke!

by john on Jul 29, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i forgot about him, and a few others

by roy on Jul 29, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to be editing this list in my head all day! I keep forgetting fighters. I need a list in front of me. lol

by chefdaddy on Jul 29, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats how I was all night at work chef! The things that keep you going!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would’ve put Baroni on most hated, but I mellowed on the guy a bit after that douche headbutted and he handled it with class. kevin, i remember you saying one time that you sometimes sit around and think about how to respond to certain posts and that it takes up more than just “hobby” time. I’m the same way! I’ll be revising this godforsaken list 50 times all day long! Thanks for the distraction. lol

by chefdaddy on Jul 29, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah chef, I work all night, so i’m usually bored, but had been on this site all day! Gets me pumped when events are coming up. it’s funny, I thought i’d run out of “conversations” but every night I kinda get a new idea. Still taking requests if you guys want me to break something down for you!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dolloway or Jesse Taylor?

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both! lol

by chefdaddy on Jul 29, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL..chefdaddy, I like that idea of top 5 fighters you love to hate..
Here are mine;

Hughesus christ
Karo
Koscheck
Frank Shamrock
Noons

by Stagger-Lee on Jul 29, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fighters I love to hate for no reason:

Chris Leben
KJ Noons
Patrick Cote
Cheik Kongo
Ben Rothwell

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite:
Anderson Silva
BJ Penn
Nick Diaz
Randy Couture
Kenny Florian
5 most over rated:
Quinton “Roadrage” Jackson
Tim Sylvia
Tito Ortiz (even old tito, look at who beat him vs who he beat)
Thiago Alves
Gonzaga
5 most over hyped:
Evan Tanner (whod he beat again? i like the guy…but overhyped imo)
Kimbo Slice
Gina Carano (at least shes hot)
Sean Sherk (lost the only 3 fights that mattered)
Randy Couture (not his fault, i love the guy, but i do think he is a bit overhyped.)

by eightyproof on Jul 29, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF, how is Rampage overrated ??? He put an ass woopin on some of the best fighers in the world!

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, craziness aside page is one of the best!

by linx on Jul 29, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is gina overhyped?

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol no one noticed this is tomorrows conversation? man it sucks being sick!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH yeah, edit
over hyped and over rated
Jardine
Houston Alexander

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah houston was overhyped, but for good reason, they were two pretty impressive KO’s. i never got the impression that jardine was overhyped… i mean maybe a lil b4 Wand…but that was only to make it seem like Wand had a chance to lose!

by eightyproof on Jul 29, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder why WEC let him go?

by Muscle Dolphin on Jul 29, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe his contract was up and he left on his own.

by roy on Jul 29, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had already lost to the champion and Brock Larson…same situation as Frank Trigg and the UFC a few years back.

by Kelvin on Jul 29, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOLOL. How old is that picture of Allesio? Is that his from his 8th grade year book for winning the “Smallest Little DoucheBag” Superlative???

by ViolentMike on Jul 29, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite:
Penn
GSP
Diego
Faber
Condit

Over Rated:
Frak Shamrock
Florian
Cub Swanson
Kos
Sylvia

Over Hyped:
Kimbo
Coleman (now)
Ninja Rua
Lesnar
Alexander

Most Hated:
Kimbo
Herring
Baroni
Both Shamrocks
Gabe Ruediger
Ed Herman
Sylvia
Hughes
That idiot that made up all the street fighting stories on that season of TUF (cant remember his name for the life of me)
Too many more to list

by the_mexicutioner on Jul 29, 2008 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Coleman was always overhyped, he never really showed me he deserved all the praise he got. hell, i reckon hes the worst “2 minute man” in main stream MMA.

by eightyproof on Jul 29, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt, he’s the only one in the UFC hall of fame that should definatley not be there, he and Ken Shamrock should both be ousted from the HOF! Dan Severn should be #1 hall of famer, cause of his insane record.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like dan and am not a fan of ken’s but if ken had fought in all the small shows and fought the people dan fought he would have a record better than dans.

by roy on Jul 29, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he will make a nice addition to the arid ww division in elite. he’ll be another tough fighter for shields to beat up on.

by b.w. on Jul 29, 2008 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice. Even though he won’t have worthy contenders to compete against in EliteXC…

by Fedor Emelianenko instructional DVD on Jul 29, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

My Favorites:
GSP
Belfort
Fedor
Shogun
Rampage

My Hated:
Forrest
Timmy
Hughes
Kongo
Lesnar

Over-rated:
Forrest
Fitch
Silvia
Sherk
Hughes

by GodDamnMike on Jul 29, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

hey mike, it’s no longer ufcmania buddy, not bashing you, but how is kimbo not on everyone’s over hyped list

by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 29, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s because I was looking at ‘real’ MMA fighters. In my eyes Kimbo Slice is not fully developed or nearly complete as an MMA fighter. You asked of everyone to give THEIR fave’s, over- rated and so on. So this is mine.
Yes Kimbo is way over-hyped and yes he should be on a lot of these lists, but you did ask for individuality in this particular survey. And lastly, a couple of the guys on my list are not in the UFC. But yeah, I get what you’re saying.

by GodDamnMike on Jul 29, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

favorite fighters

faber
hendo
matt hughes
gsp
bj penn

overrated
frank shamrock
phil baroni
sean sherk
paulo filho
jardine

overhyped
the elite xc

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

My Favorites
Nick Diaz
BJ Penn
Tito Ortiz
Kenny Florian
Jorge Rivera
Frank Mir

MY Hated
KJ Noons
Matt Hughes
Diego Sanchez
Sean Sherk
Michael Bisping

Over Rated
Kimbo Slice
Phil Baroni
Kendell Grove
Patrick Cote
CB Dollaway

by Mike on Jul 29, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Faves-
GSP, BJ, Faber, A Silva, Couture

Overrated/Hated-
Bisping, Diego, Shields, Lawler, Sylvia

by LJ on Jul 29, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Favs
Rampage (still)
Lyoto
GSP
Dan Henderson
Vitor Belfort
Clay “its so easy a caveman could do it” Guida (6 I know, they are all pretty equall to me though)
Over-rated
Hughes
Shamrock (both)
Cote
Tito
Rashad
Overhyped
Kimbo (not his fault)
Brock (not his fault)
Roger Huerta
Travis Lutter
Faber – Before anyone rips me, its because he could easily take a huge step up in competition by fighting @ 155, which I think he eventually will do, and until then I don’t feel there is not enough competiton for him. Move to 155 & win (doesn’t have to stay undefeated – just compete well) and he easily comes off the list.

by efisher on Jul 29, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Favorites:
Faber
Penn
GSP
Spider Silva
Machida

Overrated:
Cote
Irvin
Melendez
Aoki
CroCop

Overhyped:
Houston Alexander
Kimbo
Brock
KJ
Bisping

by UFCAddict on Jul 29, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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