Affliction Banned post-fight recap and final thoughts
by MMAmania.com on Jul 20, 2008 2:15 PM EDT
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It's now time to talk a little Affliction: "Banned" action, which took place last night at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif., before a solid -- but not sold out -- crowd.
There's quite a bit to discuss since it was the first-ever show for the clothing company turned mixed martial arts promotion and several of the top heavyweights in the world were booked to compete.
Let's start with the bad or "low lights" of the production. And I mean that quite literally.
It was a dark atmosphere for most of the evening. At times it seemed like the fights were taking place within a smoky saloon on the outskirts of a far-off town. In addition, the camera angles seemed distant. And because the ring was absolutely MASSIVE it was hard to feel a part of the action.
The audio was low and it was sometimes hard to hear the announcing team, which was good but not great. Jay Glazer didn't do a horrible job; however, he doesn't have that pop in his delivery like a Mike Goldberg or Mauro Ranallo -- the kind of pop that gets you excited for a fight even if it's a sleeper.
Ring announcer Michael Buffer was great as usual. In-ring post-fight interviewer and color commentator, Big "John" McCarthy, was serviceable.
The ring entrances and filler video need some work. Megadeth was cool to open the show, but after that it just gave me more time to use the restroom or flip over and see what was going on over at Spike TV. Most if not all fans would rather see fights (not all of them made the broadcast) instead of an aging heavy metal band.
Overall, it was an average showing in regard to production. Not bad for a "T-shirt" guy and his crew putting on their debut show. But flipping back-and-forth between pay-per-view (PPV) and Spike TV showed that the differences are night and day.
Now it's time for the good.
I was nearly asleep until Josh Barnett woke everybody up with that sensational stoppage of Pedro Rizzo. It looked like it was going to be a technical battle with neither fighter really laying it all on the line. Then, "The Baby Face Assassin" exploded with a left hook that dropped the Brazilian.
Barnett charged in to finish him off, but the damage was done. "The Rock" was out cold, like, well, a rock.
Andrei Arlovski and Ben Rothwell followed quickly thereafter and continued to maintain the energy that Barnett and Rizzo unleashed. Arlovski -- who has been training with boxing training savant, Freddy Roach -- looked sharp and powerful throughout the fight.
Rothwell hung in there and did land some nice shots. But rather than retreating and circling (he had so much room with which to work if he wanted) like Arlovski has done in his recent past when he meets resistance, he instead fired back and beat up the Miletich product.
"The Pitbull" appears to be back and ferocious one again -- that combination to end the bout in the third round was brutal. Watch out.
And then there was the main event between Fedor Emelianenko and Tim Sylvia.
The Russian came out guns blazing as if his intentions were to silence the critics -- UFC President Dana White chief among them -- as soon as possible. And he did just that, taking a page out of Randy Couture's playbook and storming the giant with a barrage of well-placed haymakers that found there mark.
Sylvia dropped and the wily Sambo specialist pounced, sinking in a rear naked choke and winning the inaugural WAMMA heavyweight strap.
Fedor made it look easy ... something he has been doing his entire career. He doesn't even seem to put any effort into his expressions or behavior. He's pretty much even-keeled regardless of the situation, whether it's fighting former champions or feeding some white ducks.
He's the man. And hopefully a fight with Barnett is on the horizon. Randy Couture was brought in the ring after the win likely to hype up a match between the two legends. But this writer has little to no interest seeing that match up before a Fedor-Barnett showdown.
That's a fight that should have happened several years ago. And one that should happen sooner rather than later.
Congratulations to Vitor Belfort for his knockout win over Terry Martin. The former UFC champion looked fantastic at 185 pounds. It took him a little while to get going, but when he did he did it right. That was a great fight-ending finish. It's too bad Martin's chin got abused again ... he demonstrated some much improved boxing technique.
And nice job by Mark Hominick submitting a very tough Savant Young. I didn't see that one coming -- I didn't expect him to win much less pull off a submission.
Even though there were a handful of good fights, it was clearly the "Big Three" that saved this show -- Barnett, Arlovski and Fedor. Any promotion would be thrilled to have the trio as its cornerstones. And it would behoove Affliction to market the hell out of them for the next show.
I'd buy it ... again.
To check out Affliction "Banned" results and blow-by-blow coverage click here.
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thought it was a very predictable night:
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Am I the only one disappointed with tonight’s fights? I literally fell asleep at one point watching Affliction (7 o clock here), I didn’t care for the grainy 70’s picture, the ring, mega death and decisions. I don’t mind decisions, but boring ones? Rothwell is not even close to top 10, vera looked like shit, babalu falling out of the ring and the dirty feeling I got at the end of the night. I absolutely take nothing away from Fedor, but the choke was weak, and right away they hyped the Randy fight. I personally would rather see Fedor/Arlovski! Spider looked good, but what did you expect?
by kevin on Jul 20, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea the ring does not work for MMA fights. Overall Affliction was worked with a boxing feel to it. Fedor/Tim was fixed. And I think AA’s performance saved the night. But I dont know if Rothwell just doesnt belong with the big dogs? Or was AA just that good? I had to get Affliction for fear I’d miss something good. I will only get another one if its Fedor/Randy.
by JV on Jul 20, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed??? I didn’t see any part of Fedor/Tim being fixed. I am one of the “many” who belive Fedor is just that good. The choke looked more painfull then anything, try putting a hundred pound of pressure on your throat and let me know if Tim tapped early…
I did fall asleep during the begining. What the F*ck does MegaDeath have to do with fighting? Tge camera work and sound make me feel like i was watching a clip off youtube. Overall I am happy to pay $25 for the AA fight and $20 for the Fedor fight, I just wish that was all I had to watch…
by Arnold on Jul 20, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arnold do you not remember a few threads ago Tom Atencio saying they will only do 3 shows if nobody buys? What would happen if Fedor would have lost? Tim didnt tap when Mir broke his forearm, and I’m supposed to believe that a choke that wasnt sunk in was good enough to make Tim tap? Why is it so hard to believe Affliction would not fix that fight? That fight alone was Affliction whole future. Cause now I’m looking forward to Couture/Fedor.
by JV on Jul 20, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did see the Mir/Tim fight, but I think that happend too quick for him to tap. Tim had about 15 seconds laying on the mat eating punches wondering when it was going to be over.
Any fight has the potential to be fixed if that’s the way you choose to watch them.
I did think competition would improve the sport but after having to hear Mega death I must post otherwise. I also thought it was horribly tacky to name the “famous” people in attendance… I was just waiting to hear Paulie Shore’s name
by Arnold on Jul 20, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just watched the fight on mmascraps and that was weak. I don’t think it was rigged, just think tim felt the power and wanted no part of it. It’s tough to think tim would take the easy way out of any fight but that’s what it looked like to me. Fedor’s handspeed looked insane. If we get to see him fight AA, that would be out of control explosive
by crowls on Jul 20, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TIM just got worked over choked and tapped out… what did someone think Silva would win? There’s always the conspiracy theorist out there, in some cases I might agree, not this fight though.
by THORAZINE on Jul 20, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JV, I think Tim is just a pu$$y. Remember how quick he tapped when Nog got his back… Same thing. He just gives up when he has a superior grappler on his back.
by BNF on Jul 20, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BNF, Nogs choke was deep and there wasnt anyway out of it. Fedors choke was weak, it wasnt even sunk in. I wasnt expecting Tim to win, but I wanted him too. What better way to sell Fedor to the american public than to have him destroy Tim who was a former UFC champ. Under the table money is what I’m calling it. Why is it so hard to believe???
by JV on Jul 20, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JV: Stop hating on Fedor! U are much better than that! Remember when u were complaining about me bitching about Rampage? well u sound much worse with your conspiricy theories! If the fight were fixed, dont you think that it would have been fixed to last a little longer than 36 seconds? Get real!
By the way, I told you that Irvin had NO BUSINESS being in the cage with the Spider, but u trashed me and trashed me!
Back to my amazing gambling wins! FEELS GOOD TO take my crown back!
by john on Jul 20, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have a point because Fedor vs Randy will be a money maker for sure. That choke did look pretty weak. But I still think Tim is just a big pu$$y. He got destroyed on his feet, quick, and figured there was no way he could win. And I guess Affliction has deeper pockets than Dana, because didn’t you think Timmy would get a KO bonus from Dana???
by BNF on Jul 20, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched that fight over n’ over again online… easy to do since it lasted 36 seconds… Fedor turned his handsideways slid the choke in… silvia did not wait… he tapped as soon as pressure applied to his throat… end of story.
by THORAZINE on Jul 20, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I was thinking maybe Dana would slip Tim some money to beat Fedor. Maybe I just like a good conspiracy theory I guess? Fedor/Randy will be the same, they will put it as Randy passed the torch to Fedor and the American public will get interested. So Affliction will be off and running. 1 thing though, dont you find it funny that Tom Atencio says that if people dont buy then they will only do 3 events? (hint) Fedor destroys former UFC champ with a weak choke???
by JV on Jul 20, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey john I didnt trash you with the Irvin/Silva fight. Truth is you bashed me for saying Irvin might take that fight. All I said was, I didnt see Anderson as dominant at LHW. But I guess I was wrong, Im not ashamed to say it. Cause I’m a big fan of the Spider. As far as Affliction go’s 1 question: Is it really that hard to believe a startup Org. that probably lost alot of money would make it to were their main guy wins? Alot of us thought that way about EliteXC. Why not Affliction? Just cause its Fedor???
by JV on Jul 20, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya know JV, under the table money is somewhat believable, but I couldn’t tell from the fight, Fedor just whupped Tim’s ass in typical Fedor Fashion… this type of ass whuppin’ by Fedor has been seen many times before… Tim was just another victim.
by THORAZINE on Jul 20, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your probably right THORAZINE!!! Maybe I’m just looking to bash Affliction alittle bit, seeing as how I’m a UFC loyalist. I’ll say this, if it was real, then HOLY SH!T Fedor is a beast.
by JV on Jul 20, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i gald you came to your censes jv cause that real was some stupid stuff you wrote, as far as being a ufc fan thats cool keep watching and you might become a fan of mma as well.
by roy on Jul 20, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what bothered me most about that choke is that defending the rear naked requires hand control, fedor’s hands were in front of him and he made no attempt at all to break fedor’s grip, bottom line, he was scared and looked for a way out
by crowls on Jul 21, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was hurt! You know the kind of shots that really hurt, not the KO kind of hurt. Watch the fight again… Sylvia winces in pain and seems absolutely shocked… it was over as soon as that punch landed.
by SaVaGe on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t a standard rear naked, but an airlock choke, which anyone who fights, or has ever been hit in the adam’s apple can tell you, is painful. And it’s hard to ever tell the amount of strain Fedor was using considering his face never changes expression. So fixed? No.
by Jusitn on Jul 21, 2008 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I call that the Severn choke. I don’t think for a moment that it was tight enough for Tim to have to tap, but I think Tim knew he was beat.
by naturalshadow on Jul 21, 2008 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t post much being i’m at work, but since no one’s around i’ve gotta put my 2 cents in. IMO the only way that fight could have been fixed is if TIM won, here’s why: IF Tim had won Affliction would have hyped the hell out of him making him sound like the greatest thing the world had ever seen “Tim does the impossible” in the wake of such an upset the entinre MMA community would be focused on Affliction, people would be clammoring to see the “biggest upset of the year” and it would create all sorts of attention and speculation as to why it happened. This would set up quite possibly the highest grossing rematch in MMA history. So IMO if affliction was going to fix it it would have been the other way around…just a thought.
by The_Cannibal on Jul 21, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Fedor fight was not fixed, Fedor just do that to every oponent he fights. In fact that fight hurts Afliction, because now we know for sure something we suspected but didn´t want to belive: Couture has absolutly nothing to do with Fedor, and will not last a minute with him.
If you take about potencial of fixing a fight, let´s talk about Spider one, because I never see someone fall that way to one single punch that didn´t even touch his chin, and didn´t even try to get back, that seemed more like fixed to me, and that fight has a lot of reasons to be fixed, because if the fighter that the UFC claims to be the best pound per pound loses with a second row fighter it would make a very big lose to the UFC. And by the way, fixing fights seems to fit a lot more with the kind of tactics the UFC uses to manipulate everything.
by Tarao on Jul 21, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed? You’re crazy. Fedor is just that good. Not only that ever since his arm got broke Tim’s a quick tapper. He tapped super quick to Arlovski and Minotauro. He’s lost his heart.
by Brandon on Jul 26, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree AA vs Fedor for me is the more exciting fight. The choke did look soft but I’m not sure what your point is? Tim tapped to an AA ankle lock that didn’t look that tight either…I thought the whole broadcast team was pro Fedor to a point of losing credibilty. AA looked liked the old AA, which is very exciting. Vera shouldn’t get any more main tv time until he starts looking good again. The Spider looked unbreakable and seemed even bigger than Irvin. Maybe he should bounce back and forth a couple of times in weight classes. I found myself bored for the first 1 1/2, after the Barnet fight things starting picking up. Overall okay night but not good or great. Agreed.
ps I read a couple of lines down people are say Tim vs Fedor was fixed. If you are saying that you don’t know MMA. Tim has been knocked down by AA twice with one punch bombs and a 45 yr old Randy knocked him down in ten seconds. Why is it hard to believe Fedor did the same?
by Robert on Jul 20, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I watched Affliction and then I watched UFC right after. The first thing I noticed was the picture quallity difference. Affliction has to spend some money on some cameras. If I wanted to see some hair band from the 80’S I’d go to a rock concert. I’m a big Vera fan, but I don’t know how much longer I can justify his POOR performance. He looked terrible. I was embarrassed to be a fan. Arlovski looked great. He’s becoming more well rounded and he has his killer instinct back. I think he stole it from Vera,lol.
by Gord on Jul 21, 2008 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That ring sucks. I can’t beleive afflication didn’t use some type of cage. I can’t stand mma fights in a ring. Guys fall through the ropes, they can’t gnp half the time because their opponents heads are on the out side of the ropes, and they have to stop the action to get them out of the ropes. Also on take downs, some of the times their opponents arms are tangled in the ropes so they can’t get the take down. Afflication, if you want to be a serious player, get some type of cage and get rid of the dam ring!
by brac on Jul 21, 2008 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN IT LOOK AT THE PICTURE HOW THE HELL IS THE CHOKE WEAK
When I was first watching I thought that the choke was not applied properly but looking at that picture above the thin part of Fedors forearm is firmly under the chin of Sylvia.
FEDORS a beast stop hating
by Holdin_Ropes on Jul 21, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like he is just putting pressure on the adams apple which would hurt pretty bad and a guy with Fedors strength could definitly make you tap from that. I just read that Aleks could have Hep. C which would be why he was unable to fight for Affliction. If this has already come out by another blogger or posted on Mania my fault for double posting but if not could you find out if there is truth behind this Mania?
by Smokes on Jul 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AFFLICTION WAS GREAT AND KINNA MADE ME MISS PRIDEEEE AND I HOPE THEN COMPETE WITH THE UFC
by markdandy on Jul 20, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I felt the same way when i was watching Affliction. I want Pride back damn it!!
by Jacoby & Meyers... on Jul 20, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
safe to say for alot of us it brought memories of our pride days. As far as production, yes there were a few kinks that needed to get worked out but u are comparing something the ufc has had time to perfect with 80 plus events to affliction 1. i personally enjoyed the atmosphere live here in anaheim and the crowd was pumped since waiting to get in through the lines and traffic.
did anyone who attended the CARD in person see the girl fight right before barnett knocked out RIZZO??? girl flew 3 rows down and it caused many of us sitting around there to miss the darn knockout, had to wait for the replay…truly hilarious to see a girl fly 3 f-ing rows down with such force. i really do hope they bring it back to anaheim soon. if it wasnt sold out, it could of fooled me since i saw a packed house from top to bottom.
by blah on Jul 20, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a great night of fights!!!
I had 3 non-Pride / UFC only fans come over my house for the PPV. One of them even got up after the Arlovski fight and was about to leave because he was going to a Yankee game today. Well, too bad, your at MY house and you’re staying for FEDOR! Needless to say, they all left my house with their jaws dropped and became instant Fedor NutHuggers.
I will agree with Mania that it was a bit of a sleeper until “the big 3”.
I haven’t been on the forum much today, and I won’t be on at all tomorrow because I don’t want to ruin the results of DREAM 5 which I;ll be watching after work tomorrow, but I haven’t seen many of the Fedor haters out. Where’d they all go??
by ViolentMike on Jul 20, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mike, I cut and pasted the email I sent you.
by kevin on Jul 20, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike it’s good to see you on Fedor’s side again
by zheka on Jul 20, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VM: BAD NEWS! KID Yammamotto partially tore his ACL and will have to withdraw from DREAM. He is said to be sidelined at least 6 months.
Great night of fights! Great start for Affliction, and it will only get better. Next show, I expect better production, better fights, and maybe even a cage. My fight predictions for the next Affliction event:
Couture vs. Fedor (title fight)
Barnett vs. Arlovski
Tito vs. Nog or Babalu
Aleks vs. Rothwell
by john on Jul 20, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Sylvia basically got Knocked out standing, then Ground n pounded for a TKO on the ground, and then Finished with a submission….All in 36 seconds! LMAO
Fedor = MMA GOD!
by john on Jul 20, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope Randy never fights again. He should have honored his UFC contract. Fedor would destroy him!
I can’t see them using a cage.
by MoonUK on Jul 20, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah thats pretty amazing fedor beat the giant in basically every aspect of the game in 36 seconds
by medecineballs on Jul 20, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol ,its funny because its true
by Holdin_Ropes on Jul 21, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zheka, how have you been. I haven’t seen you post in a while.
by James S on Jul 24, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VM that was a great night of fights. I got super lucky and got tickets for a box suite while I was at the weigh ins. It was an incredible night and it was fun as hell. Everyone when nuts during the last three fights. The people that went with us knew nothing about MMA and seemed bored almost the entire night. AA got them excited but they flew out of their seat like a firecracker went off under their a$$ when Fedor rocked Tim. It was an awesome night of MMA!!! What did you guys think about Belfort?
by Volatol on Jul 20, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha you fedor haters. he made timmay look sillay.
by Nokimono on Jul 20, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
war Fedor!!! I really hope all of his haters will STFU for awhile
by zheka on Jul 20, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously. many of the guys on here claimed he doesn’t want to fight top competition. ummm… he’s fought everyone outside the ufc!!!
he’s been wanting to fight every big name out there it’s just that dana won’t let it happen. instead of blaming dana, people blame him… which is retarded.
by rhv on Jul 20, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should have fought Josh Barnett years ago, but hasn’t.
Is that Dana’s fault?
by MoonUK on Jul 20, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, that’s barnett’s fault.
1. barnett was never really a threat to fedor.
2. even if he was ducking barnett (which is ridiculous cuz he’s nowhere near his level), that was as you said years ago. people have been coming down on fedor within the past year or so saying he’s ducking competition.
by rhv on Jul 20, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why should he have fought barnett???? barnett got smoked by cro cop which lost to FEDOR. i dont think he “had” to fight barnett at any point to prove his mark. he beat the best in noguera and others. But i do laugh how dana is such a bitch and a flip flopper w talking shit on fedor and now that the last emperor beats the best ufc had in timmy, he now decides to respect him. Goes to show all u FEDOR haters and dana lovers that ur boy dana is nothing but an ass and will continue to be! its good that trump is backing affliction now so we can see many more double cards in one night. i still remember some of you saying fedor the “can” this or that…man, you all ufc be all end all nuthuggers have the same mentality as the man running ufc. head stuck in sand!
by blah on Jul 20, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO no heavy weight is in Fedor’s league but I don’t like the fact that he has not fought the other top guys recently.
Dana would love Fedor to fight any of his heavyweights BUT only in the UFC. Whats wrong with that? Thats business!
If fedor was desperate to fight Randy why didn’t he sign a one fight contract? Cos he’s not bothered who he fights.
by MoonUK on Jul 20, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree fedor is the greatest thing to ever happen to heavyweight fighting, hes one of my faves but i wish he would fight more… probably just cause i want to watch him destryo people.. but he edfinitly needs to fight the other top HW’s.. and beat them (which he will)
by medecineballs on Jul 20, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
moonuk, you’re right that it’s dana’s business. but my point is that everyone blames fedor for it.
by rhv on Jul 20, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Newsflash MoonUK
Dana doesnt let fighters sign one fight contracts. Dana is not in the business of giving somebody the biggest stage to fight and then having them be a free agent right away, free to sign with who ever. Thats beyond ridiculous.
Fedor commented that one of the main reasons he didnt sign the contract was that if he went undefaeted the contract automatically renewed for its original terms (with the same pay). If he lost, the UFC could cut him at will but if he won he was tied into a constantly renewing contract.
Doesnt help that Nog is the current champ and the favorite to be reigning champ in what is seen as a work in progress division at the moment. Would feel pretty bad for Nog if the anti-Nog all of a sudden joined the UFC. Look at the HW’s outside of the UFC, much better competition at the moment.
by Jason on Jul 20, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blah,come on now, I hardly think a guy (Tim) who lost 3 of his last 4 fights is the best the UFC has to offer and the fights he did win in the last couple of years were by decision. The UFC got rid of him for a reason.
by Gord on Jul 21, 2008 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have to say that as far as production is concerned, the UFC can’t be beat. they have some an advantage by having footage of the fighters in action but i think affliction could have done a much better job.
production value aside, the affliction card was great even though i agree with many of you that say at times it was boring. but, again, i think that the production has a lot to do with it.
by rhv on Jul 20, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel like Affliction did very well for their first outing as an MMA promotion. I’m much more partial to a ring rather then a cage so i was happy to see that. I also found it much easier to tune out the broadcast team of Glazer/Trigg/McCarthy then I can for Goldberg/Rogan. The fights were very entertaining with really only one or two snoozers. Definitly could’ve of done without Megadeath though. Overall I would give Affliction probably a B+ for their first go around…
by Jacoby & Meyers... on Jul 20, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lose Megadeth…please lose Megadeth. The Babalu fight was a snorefest to be honest. So was the Barnett fight until BAM it was over.
by halljam2 on Jul 20, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FEDOR
this was my first time seeing him live (only seen you tube of fedor) and the guy is scary. The guy is like a crazy bear thats been unleashed upon an unsuspecting camper. I LOVE Randy Couture and I am afraid for Randy if he steps in the ring with Fedor.
This card was in my humble opinion, HORRIBLE. OK, there were a few great moments… AA fight was amazing and the guy looks great. The 30 seconds of Fedor was some of the most exciting of this year. One problem I had is, Don’t play megadeath if you are trying to go mainstream, not everyone loves heavy metal music, I don’t mind it during intros but really? a concert? The overall production was POOR. There were a 2 good fights and 3 good knockouts… too bad.
I really was hoping this would be good so the UFC wouldn’t have so much control over MMA. But this was a mediocre put together show, the lighting as mentioned above, the announcing, and most of the fights were kind of dull. The UFC card wasn’t amazing either, but all that matters is we got to see the big fights go great.
As for the whole Anderson vs. Fedor debate… I like how the author put it, naming either one #2 would be too difficult to do. both are scary good and I think you disrespect the other one by placing one in front of the other.
With that said, do I think Anderson could beat fedor? Nope. Maybe if somehow anderson weighed 240 or 230 (in some type of miracle steroid or human growth project). But since that isn’t happening, it is hard for me to see a man dismantle a guy who seems to be made of steel and has punches that fly around like lightning bolts but hit a man like a bag of bricks.
Wow. VERY Impressive victory by fedor. Very impressive victory by Anderson. I’m very happy to be a fan of MMA right now! I hope affliction gets better so fighters can earn more and we can see more better match ups instead of just UFC marketing match ups… fights that millions would like to pay millions to see:
1. Fedor vs Randy
2. Fedor vs Broc Lesnar (If I had to chose a guy with potential to beat Fedor, stress on POTENTIAL, this may be the guy.
3. Rampage vs W Silva
4. Chuck vs Shogun
5. Lyoto vs Rampage/Shogun/Chuck
6. GSP vs BJ
7. Anderson vs GSP
8. Anderson vs Rampage/Chuck/Shogun/etc top LW (maybe even Griffin)
I haven’t quite accepted that Griffin is the top LW, maybe he is top 3. Wow, I know he has the belt but I just don’t think he is more dangerous than about 4 or 5 other LW out there… Rampage/Shogun/Chuck/Lyoto/etc.
Could forest beat Rampage 3 out of 5 fights? Not sure… I bet Rampage comes out attacking next time though instead of hanging back before getting hurt, then having the judges decide the winner.
EVERYONE can learn from FEDOR… brandon vera just sat back and didn’t attack 80% of the time… Rampage didn’t really get aggressive against forest until too late…
Fedor is aggressive and charges you like a bull. He doesn’t sit back and pick choose and counter (lyoto, while a winning fighter and tough to beat, is BORING!). Everyone can learn from Fedor, attack, be strong, fight, get after it.
It seems to work for the guy. Fedor #1, Silva #1…
by Ben on Jul 20, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That “crazy bear thats been unleashed upon an unsuspecting camper” comment is hilarious. I nearly fell out of my chair.
by SaVaGe on Jul 21, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Affliction card was awesome, I don’t care what anyone says. and it wasn’t just until barnett and rizzo made the scene, I liked babalu’s fight as well as lindland’s and lil’ nog’s (although that was before the PPV event). all in all great night of fights, if they can make some changes in their production they’ll be a force.
If this card was on the UFC, we’d all be praising it and thanking Dana, but since it was not, half of us feel like we need to criticize it and say it was bad. Let’s not be biased here, affliction was top notch!
by linx on Jul 20, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Linx, I think it is constructive criticism. The production has some flaws. The card and fights were all and all good. There were a couple boring fights but the UFC has them as well. Babalu may have been an OK fight but Whitehead is a boring SOB to watch fight, sorry. Lindland’s fights are almost always boring-mediocre for me. The rest were good. Little Nog’s fight was OK, I think it was a solid inaugural fight card!
by halljam2 on Jul 20, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree i liked most of the fights there was some bad but overall more good
by roy on Jul 20, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a renewed respect for Fedor after last nights destroying of Sylvia…I think Big Tim wasn’t expecting getting bum rushed at the opening bell…he is done
by DaGrizzlyBear on Jul 20, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell Yeah! this blows the UFC out of the water! their pathetic excuse of competition was quite ridiculous, a boring brandon vera and a stupid silva knockout, if thats what you want to call it… affliction has me sold for the time being!
by brendan on Jul 20, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vera’s fight was the UFC snoozer that night for sure. I don’t know if weight cutting got the best of Vera but he did look like rubbish!
by halljam2 on Jul 20, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was the weight cut. He looked good early and clearly tired into the second and third rounds. He’ll look much better next time out at 205.
by PW on Jul 20, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! right buddy……AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
by The 5th Beatle on Jul 20, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone is beatable, but neither one of those guys are getting annihilated. That would be a great fight though.
by Gord on Jul 21, 2008 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.need to go to octagon type ring, where guy aren’t flopping out of ring- delaying action. (hexagon?)
2. better quality on video/production.
3. should have shown Martin v. Belfort on ppv instead of boring pre-lims.
4. No more Megadeth….please.
5.What happen to the crazy Pride announcer chick-bring her aboard.
6. Bring Bas Rutten aboard- love El Guapo.
need to pick-up these fighters for organization/ this is what next card should look like-
Tito Ortiz v. Kevin Randelman,
Mirko Crocop v. Allistair Overeem,
A Emeianenko v. H. Man Choi
Buentello v. Rothwell
Fedor v. Barnett
Arlovski v. Tim Silvia
throw in some prelims and I am aboard.
you could charge $99.95 and Id pay to see this card.
Otherwise I thourougly enjoyed the last three fights.
Fedor pound for pound BEST EVER!
Maybe you could market a 3 against 1 fight? It would be more competetive.
FFFFFFFFEEEEDDDDDDOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRR rules!!!!!!!!!h
by Keith Barrera on Jul 20, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Affliction needs to go to a square shaped cage, that way you can still utilize the corners. Overall the Affliction card was a little boring with the exception for the A.A. and Fedor fights. When I switched over to the UFC (that I dvr’d)it was evident to me that it is going to be hard for any organization to topple them.Rory Markham’s knockout over Farber is what makes MMA so exciting. P.S. Am I the only one that noticed the camera cutting to Jay Glazer as he was getting makeup put on him. I thought that was hilariously bad camera work.
by Psyqo78®™ on Jul 20, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I got a chuckle out of Glazer getting his makeup retouched. The production value wasn’t too good, but I ordered it because I wanted to see the fights. A couple of them were on the boring side, but overall I was pretty pleased with the card. I was actually impressed that Ben Rothwell was able to hang in with Andrei as long as he did and avoid the attempted ankle locks, especially with Andrei looking as good as ever. I expected Fedor to get a submission victory over Tim, but I didn’t expect to see Fedor pick him apart so easily in the stand up game.
by Scott on Jul 20, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sound for Affliction was the worst. They didn’t even seem to try and get the sound of the fighters which I think is hugely important.
Please for the love of God lose any live music. It was horrible. At least if you’re going to have a band make it someone relevant.
Get a freaking cage. Ropes are for lame.
Overall I enjoyed the Affliction card but i liked the UFC card more. It will be a tough sell to get my friends to buy into another Affliction card.
by DonnyG on Jul 20, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor vs. Randy enough said. Do not fear for Randy he is a very smart fighter and will find something to expose on Fedor. This would be a war. They could bill this as world war three, USA vs. Russia!
by Eric Allen on Jul 20, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh feels good to see all those pride&Fedor haters eat all their BS! Fedor is back to P4P #1 without a doubt as always he has fought BIGGER man and come out on top. Unlike Anderson who has fought alot of smaller guys and could easly and should be fighting at 205. Its not even understandable for anyone to say Fedor is not the P4P #1 anymore. Their only arguement was ‘he hasnt fought anyone in over blah blah years’.
by Khaos_Warrior on Jul 20, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor should fight at 205 where there is actually competition and fighters with real hand speed. Randy Couture had Tim in the same position…40+ Randy Couture…
by JordanTKO on Jul 20, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is the top of the top of the heavyweight division no doubt. However Anderson Silva is still the number one guy P4P for sure. Fedor was very impressive no doubt and I have nothing but respect for the man however there are still fights for him out there. If he was fighting top heavyweights and not freaks of nature for the past couple of years then he would be the number one guy. If he can get past Barnett and Arlovski, Hell I think Tito could move up to fight him if he goes to Affliction. If Fedor gets these fights done then without a shadow of a doubt he is the guy then.
by Tim on Jul 20, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with AA and Barnett, but Tito LOL. Tito would get killed. I think AA has the best shot at Fedor.
by Gord on Jul 21, 2008 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Announcing for the fight was a big dissapointment other then Frank Trigg. Big John kept referring to Terry Martin as Marvin Eastman, what an embarrasment.
by Hammer on Jul 20, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t get to see that fight. That is pretty sad that he did that!
by halljam2 on Jul 20, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am tired of people arguing about who is best P4P. Fedor obviously is awesome and the same with Anderson. Fedor has the much better record but Anderson hasnt lost for a while and he is really trying to step up to top competion. Anyone who thought tim had a chance is nutz.
They are both far ahead of any competion they have and it seems pointless to choose one or the other…. its best to just enjoy the fact that we get to see these guys at their best.
I would be scared for Randy… but Randy can always surprise…I dont think he has a chance of winning but maybe not getting totaly killed. ahahhaha
these two are so entertaining!
by Harry on Jul 20, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a middlewirght in matt lindland lasted longer than tim sylvia
by huggy on Jul 20, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Better production values, some decent sound and it would have been much a better viewing experience, but the boxing ring has got to go. The squared circle is good for boxers, they are hemmed in by all the rules in the world, they can’t even tie up. But how many times did they have to stop the action last night because of the fighters going through the ropes. A round cage, a hexagon, even a square cage but have it in IN A CAGE, then we will be able to see the fights uninterrupted.
by joe2171 on Jul 20, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know where we can find out how many buys it got last night?
by RiverHorror on Jul 20, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
first off fedor never should have to move down a weight class….hes IS the man to beat so fighters should come to him and besides most of the LHW’s walk around as a heavyweight some of them even heavier than 230 witch is fedors natural weight
by BigSmoke on Jul 20, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fedor should never have to move down to LHW…he IS the man to beat so fighter come to him and besides most LHW’s walk around as a HW anywase someeven heavier than 230-fedors natural weight
by BigSmoke on Jul 20, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i am glad how afflication was promoting 3 fights on fsn which ended up being 1 and 1/2 fights instead, but for what i saw i was not impressed i am glad i didn’t shell out the money to go
by bryant on Jul 20, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Overall Affliction did well for their first time out. Their production will only get better from here, so Im not to worried about those problems. Their fights were good, no matter what anyone says nothing was more boring than the Vera fight. I like the ring, reminds me of Pride. I hope Affliction begins signing new talent from here to ensure they stick around for a while. Maybe Tito, Mirko, Mark Hunt, Randleman. Nick Diaz seems to be a gun for hire, fighting in a couple different orgs right now. Good to see some promise from a new org, hopefully they can keep it going.
by efisher on Jul 20, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW have they released #’s on ppv sales for Affliction last night? There was a lot of debate on how much they would sell on earlier threads, just curious. Also, anyone have a link to the Vitor/Martin fight?
by efisher on Jul 20, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It usually takes a week or two to get those numbers
by theCloser on Jul 20, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved it. The Pitbull is back. Don’t see why Barnett would get the next shot at Fedor Mania, Arlovski is more talented, more beloved and way more marketable than Barnett. AA vs Fedor, a dream match, should be the next main event for Affliction.
by theCloser on Jul 20, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well done fedor, you beat the ufc champ who lost to , cotour, andre, big nog, mir but managed to over come 5 foot nothing monson in just 5 rounds.
by mashurst on Jul 20, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Affliction was great, they just need better lights and higher quality sounds. also next time no more musical events, just show the prelims. that was the best Fedor ever performed. i think it would be better if they had a cage instead of a ring but it would cost more money so it’s up to them.
by Ro on Jul 20, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think Rampage Jackson said it best.
Interviewer: “what do you think of Fedor?”
Rampage: “Thank God im not a heavyweight!”
by javster on Jul 20, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope they PPV numbers add up, so they become a viable alternative for CroCop to join instead of the UFC after his DREAM contract ends. I’d love to see CroCop-Arlovski! drool
by YouTapped on Jul 20, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well,The lows were Megadeath,its like a WWE event! I want to watch a fight,not a concert! The ring instead of a cage is simply a dumb idea! Big John is no Joe Rogan!The lites and camera work needs help! besides that I liked the fights.I think Vitor Belfort should have been on the main card though. Arlovski looked on fire! I’m glad to see him back! Finally,Fedor,that man is a machine!The UFC is crazy for not signing him!He destroyrd Silvia! I may be one of the biggest Randy Couture fans out there and really want to see this fight,but Randy has serious work cut out for him!Fedor is a killer! Once more,AFFLICTION, change the ring to a cage!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 20, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor Should fight Barnett, Arlovski, and Randy if it is ever possible. I also think the UFC should push for getting Fedor now. You can’t deny his abilities after seeing what just happened last night. That was incredible.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can’t Fedor and Randy just go fight in some different country?
UFC is stupid for trying to monopolize the MMA world… and I love the UFC.
Let Randy go!
by Ben on Jul 20, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
randy is a smart fighter. i think he has less than sylvia still..
timmy has KO power.
couture might hace a hard time getting fedor to slow down and clinch.
also in a ring it’s harder. although lindland got underhooks on fredor in a ring – so who knows…
by patrickgamil on Jul 20, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Timmy HAD KO power. When was the last time he finished a fight, let alone KOed someone. Forget that, When was the last time he won ,(minus a one handed Vera). Tim’s a dummy, his only hope was to come out guns blazing and hope he tags Fedor, but he didn’t, he came out all crouched down weary of the takedown and Fedor wasted no time with that invitation. Randy didn’t have less than Sylvia when he beat him.
by Gord on Jul 21, 2008 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard opponents for fedor.
arlovski, werdum, gonzaga, couture, and anderson silva- remember that great fighters like sakuraba and fedor have fought all sizes and shapes and types of fighters
by patrickgamil on Jul 20, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
theyve even fought triangle shaped guys?
by brendan on Jul 20, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So I didn’t get to watch Affliction.
I thought Anderson Silva was very impressive like always.
Was Fedor as amazing as everyone is making it sound? I actually thought Tim would put up a better showing but from what I have read he got killed.
Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com
by Rob Dib on Jul 20, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor would CRUSH Anderson Silva, Silva got nothing on Fedor, Fedor is the GOD of MMA.
by LanceLegweak on Jul 20, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here are some Final thoughts from big tim:
http://www.themmapost.com/2008/07/quote-of-day-tim-sylvia-i-dont-think.html
Also Fedor would destroy Silva if they ever fought at heavyweight.
by StabToTheLiver on Jul 20, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just saw Fedor’s total destruction of Big Timmy. Talk about being outclassed. I’m very glad I didn’t pay $45 for the card. Was there even one upset? It seems like every fighter that was supposed to win, did. I thought the AA vs. Rothwell fight would be the best. Was it? It seemed to be the most evenly matched, which is sad when that is the most evenly matched fight. As far as the UFC fight card, it was disappointing, as well. Two fights ended differently than they probably should have. CB kneed JT’s head, while they were on the ground. And Burns poked Johnson’s eye. Also, Silva’s fight should have been ruled a TKO instead of a KO.
by UFCAddict on Jul 20, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think those Fedor haymakers were well placed and he hurt tim,but that choke was a joke. my 10 year daughter wouldnt tap to that. RIGGED!!!!!
by jdawg on Jul 20, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still would take Barnett, Randy, and now AA against Fedor allllllllllll day looooooooooong.
by xxbaxx816 on Jul 20, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the choke that fedor put on tim was tight. he doesn’t train bjj so it doesn’t look the same. sambo is different. he’s choked plenty of people out like that before. anyone who has doubts on fedor hasn’t been a fan off mma for very long. fedor is #1. the silva fight was exactly what i thought it was going to be. irvin dropped his hands like a dope and got caught. silva is so fast but i still feel like fedor is just as fast.
by oh yeah on Jul 20, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, of course Fedor is going to look fast next to a 300 pound oaf. I don’t think you can really compare the two (fedor and Silva) other than that they both destroy everyone they fight. The only major difference is that Anderson Silva fights waaaaaay more often and arguably much tougher competition. The other difference is that Silva already cleaned out the 185 lb. weight class and is beginning his work now in another weightclass. Fedor has yet to clean out the Heavyweights. Just an aside, I think I speak for a lot of UFC fans in saying that I don’t have a problem with Fedor. The problem is that when all these small-time promotions come along, all it does is dilute the level of talent in each organization. If every great fighter fought in the UFC (the original), the fight cards would be stacked, the title belts would carry a much stronger meaning, and MMA wouldn’t fall to the same death that boxing has suffered. Ya know? These tools that start these competing org.s are only out to make money and ride the coattales of the UFC. Do you think they care about advancing the sport of MMA??? Hell no!
by RedDog on Jul 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Affliction was F..king brilliant (Mega Death and some operational issues aside).
Loved the dark vibe and the last three fights were wars!
Props to Affliction for a sensational first effort.
by Rilly on Jul 20, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, the UFC Silva vs Irvin thing was a crying shame……
by Rilly on Jul 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arlovski was cool last night. He was so aggressive! But seriously, Fedor, Arlovski, and Barnett need to be in the UFC. They are great fighters and they could add a lot to the UFC. I can see why Fedor isn’t in the UFC because the best isn’t there. That is why the UFC should strive to get the best in there. I hope this gets figured out.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana White had to be eating his own liver after the Fedor fight. He really needs to get over himself. Sure he’s worked hard and helped save the sport, but right now he’s screwing every MMA fan out of the fight of the decade.
You know white was wanting Sylvia to win so Fedor’s standing would drop. Who knows if Affliction or this WAMMA thing will last? But while it does the competition between the two companies will be good for the fans.
I’m betting even Randy Couture was amazed at the speed of the finish – something he couldn’t accomplish having Sylvia in the same position for over a minute.
by Kosmo on Jul 21, 2008 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, all props to Fedor, he is a beast for sure, but Sylvia looked like a lost puppy coming out at the bell. What was he thinking charging Fedor like that? Irvin kind of did the same thing with Silva. It reminds me of Tommy boy in the diner with his “little pet”. He has it right there and loves his little pet then smashes it into tiny little pieces.
by JRandolph on Jul 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was an airlock, not a rear naked, and for anyone who doesn’t understand the difference have someone put there wristbone on your adam’s apple and squeeze it in a joke. You’ll be coughing blood in no time.
by Justin on Jul 21, 2008 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, when a joke is really funny I usually cough up blood to show that I thought it was extra funny.
I liked the production. it reminded me of those old ESPN videos of Rocky Marciano and Sugar Ray Robinson. Legit!
by dave on Jul 21, 2008 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Dave, good analogy mate. I thought it looked really sharp too, a good vibe.
by Rilly on Jul 21, 2008 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t like how the announcers on affliction were so pro Fedor, basically calling him the best p4p fighter in the worldand that no one is close to him. I will agree he is a beast and is best heavyweight in the world. You put his skill set against BJ, GSP, and Silva at their weight classes and I think he gets pushed to the limit like he never has.
by parks1 on Jul 21, 2008 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not only was every fight pretty predictable but I am sorry you all. I know Fedor is a very great fighter but I think personally that it looked a little to staged. I personally think Tim to a dive. Would probably make alot of sense since Affliction will pretty much be building the entire organization around Fedor. Plus I dont think with the size of Tim that it would have happened that fast. Maybe mid to late first but not that fast. Plus at the same time making a former UFC fighter and champion look “easy” and therefor making Fedor and Affliction look all that much better. That is all I am going to say about that.
Now the ring, well let me start off by saying I absolutely hate rings with ropes for MMA. It makes no sense to me. I mean you know these people will try to push their opponent against it to use it to there advantage. Ropes give people. A fence doesnt. Think about how Tito fights and Affliction signing him. Now think think about how he uses the fence in almost everyone of his fights. It wont look to pretty. And it was shown pretty often with the fighters that were fighting that did fall through them. Plus the ring looked enourmous and it looked as if we were sitting in the top section with the worse seats imaginable. I didnt like it neither did any of my other friends that were watching it. The only thing it did do on the plus side was show just how more massive the show was then the UFC shows with the enourmous crowd. Maybe that was their intentions, not sure.
Big John look lost and his questions looked to rehearsed. He kept on bringing up comments about when he worked with them or when he reffed one of their fights. The fighters are the show John, not you or your years of history. Frank and the other guy were good I found. I find there Pride shows that are always on FSN are always good with their commentating part. Maybe not as good as Rogan but whats his name but still close enough. Buffer was great as always and I so wish he would work for the UFC lol.
I felt like some of the fighters if not all of them were old news, maybe its because of the lack of lighter weight fighters but it just didnt seem all to exciting. They will probably fix all of this in the next show though by the statements of the owner wanting to bring in the 145’s and the 155’s.
Like I said I had more problems with the show then I had good things to say about it. I do think they will be around a while though. I also do think they will bring in more fans because they will probably make the Couture vs Fedor fight. That alone will build enough. I do think however they have a long way to go before they can actually compete with the UFC. First of all they will have to have some kind of cable television show or something because straight pay per views is not enough. That wont draw enough fans to keep going and build on the popularity. I am sorry, I know Spike isnt all that great but I can say it is better then FSN. That looks like a third weight sports station compared to like an ESPN. Which I do look to have UFC on it in the near future….. ANthony
by AnthonyWC on Jul 21, 2008 3:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hope Affliction does well and gives the UFC some strong competition, it just seems very legit and a ring is refreshing and implements a pride vs ufc sort of atmosphere. Regardless of whether they use a ring or cage Anthony both arenas will have their flaws..grabbing the cage, holding the ropes etc. The fights were awesome, I was on the edge of my chair the whole night it was just a spectacular event. With that said, I hope they tore Vera’s contract in half after that one, what a giant over-hyped, back peddling, fat hanging over elastic band, barely beating Reese Andy washed up greased up Asian with less fighting ability then a dead cat under a car seat. With that said, Silva and Fedor are still the kings and Dana White can still suck my asshole for disrespecting Fedor. Irvin ate a big punch, Sylvia got choked out immediately and hopefully ended that moose shaped awkward human beings career. What a fantastic Saturday everybody…
by StabToTheLiver on Jul 21, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats funny. I, too, am happy to see Timmy Tomatoe Face’s face get shit kicked. He has NOTHING on Fedor. Actually nobody does. A.Silva could likley clean up the LHW division. There’s no way he would lose to a forrest griffin. Yes, get rid of Vera. A. Johnson was stone-cold ripped off!! Belfort still has the KO power, but faster, and seemingly more patient, and smarter. I’d like to see a kick-ass come back from him!
I think Tomotoe Face will be a little quieter to trash talk, the next time he fights.
by GodDamnMike on Jul 21, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually was giving Timmy a chance in this fight, never again, Timmy just flat out sucks. He used to be a decent fighter, but I think it was because of the roids. When he got caught and suspended, he slowly started looking like crap in the ring.
by Rubberman on Jul 21, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uhhhh
i can’t believe the conspiracy theory
if they were gonna pay him to take a fall, they would try to make the fight a little more interesting and less one sided than a 36 second beatdown
by johnqpublic on Jul 22, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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