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UFC Fight Night 14 predictions, preview and analysis

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UFC Fight Night 14: "Silva vs Irvin," is set to go off this Saturday, July 19 from "The Pearl" in the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas, Nevada.

It's a FREE fight card that will air on Spike TV at 9 p.m. ET, which was slapped together to compete with the Affliction: "Banned" card hitting the pay-per-view (PPV) airwaves the same night.

Remember: MMAmania.com will provide LIVE updates and blow-by-blow, round-by-round commentary of the main card action throughout the telecast. As usual, it promises to be a great discussion during an exciting line up of fights.

To get us pumped for the festivities, site contributor Mr. NC-17 will try and prove himself worthy by going toe-to-toe with senior writer and turgid egomaniac Jesse Holland with predictions for the upcoming show.

The mission: Forecast which fighters will leave the Octagon with their hands raised later on during the featured fights of the evening.

It's important to note for the predictions that while someone may be lauding a certain fighter, he isn't necessarily the guy who he thinks is going to win.

Basically, we never want this to come out sounding repetitive. At the end of each analysis, therefore, you will see the individual picks at the conclusion of the write ups.

Let's get to it:

Star-divide

Jesse Taylor (6-2) vs. CB Dollaway (6-1)

Mr. NC-17: Jesse Taylor will finally get his chance to prove that he should of been the guy standing across the Octagon from Amir Sadollah at the last Ultimate Fighter Finale. The battle between the two former contestants on the show is more than likely set to be a wrestling match rather than a typical MMA match. The strength of both of these fighters is the wrestling background they have. Now, the winner of this match will most likely be the one who has the better takedown defense and I am giving that edge to the all-American CB Dollaway. I also believe CB can not take down Jesse but has the better striking of the two. But if this fight goes into the later rounds, I believe that Jesse Taylor will have better conditioning and that will open up the takedowns for Jesse and eventually the fight. I am taking Jesse Taylor by split decision.

Jesse Holland: If there was ever a time to implement a WWE style match into the UFC, now's the time. Anyone else think a Ric Flair retirement-style bout is in order? Both Dolloway and Taylor should be thanking their lucky stars that this card was assembled from whatever parts were lying around the shop floor, because it gives both guys an opportunity for redemption that many fans (present company included) feel is undeserving. Now that's not to say there is no future for either fighter because there is, but ready for prime time? Hardly. Forget about the off-camera antics from Coco the Monkey or even Taylor's chronic case of diarrhea of the mouth. My biggest issue is the unrefined skill set. Despite their above-average athleticism, I have seen little inside the cage from either fighter that constitutes the mixed, or even the martial in their arts. Based on their backgrounds and previous fights, I'm expecting the first round to be an excellent display of wrestling technique that will quickly deteriorate into lots of laying and very little praying. Taylor might have the edge in cardio and probably strength as well, so I'm leaning towards him by decision, but in actuality this fight could be determined by a last minute takedown in round three.

Final predictions:
Mr. NC-17 — Taylor via split decision
Jesse Holland — Taylor via split decision

Anthony Johnson (5-1) vs. Kevin Burns (6-1)

Mr. NC-17: Kevin Burns is coming off an incredible submission victory over Roan Carneiro and now looks to defeat a talented stand-up striker in Anthony Johnson. This match should be your classic grappler vs. striker match-up because those are the strengths of each fighter. Anthony Johnson is possibly the biggest 170 pound fighter that I have ever seen come fight time. He is 6'2" 170 at the time of the weigh-ins and by the time he steps into the cage he might be at 180-185. Johnson has decent sprawl and brawl and that is what he needs to win this fight. Kevin Burns is coming in undersized against Anthony Johnson and I think the only way that Kevin Burns wins this fight is with a completely sick submission attempt. But I do not think that will happen. I think that the bigger and stronger Anthony Johnson will add another KO to his record in round one.

Jesse Holland: After giving Tommy Speer a near-death experience at Fight Night 13, Anthony Johnson reminded both UFC fans and officials just how scary his striking can be when he's locked in. While at first glance he looks to be the favorite, I can't shake the sight of him tapping to Rich Clementi at UFC 76. Like Mr. "No Love" himself, Burns has a capable submission offense and I'm not buying into the pre-fight hype that he wants to stand and bang with Johnson. Why should he? "Rumble" has yet to finish a fight that has gone past round one. His goal here should be to survive the first and let Johnson burn himself out looking for the knockout. From there he needs to pick his spots and wait for the overeager Johnson to make a mistake. Like any good striker, there is very little margin for error, so working from the guard may be Burns' best chance. Hopefully he's there by choice, and not because he can't feel his legs.

Final predictions:
Mr. NC-17 — Johnson via knockout
Jesse Holland — Johnson via technical knockout

Cain Velasquez (3-0) vs. Jake O'Brien (10-1)

Mr. NC-17: How do you defeat Jake O' Brien? Stop his takedown attempts. Jake O'Brien is really only known as a wrestler in the UFC, who imposes his gameplan on other fighters by taking them down and putting them on their backs. Now this is a perfect match-up for Cain Velasquez who is also a phenomenal heavyweight wrestler, who should be able to stuff the takedowns of Jake. Cain Velasquez is the future of this heavyweight division and is very well rounded. Jake O'Brien on the other hand is a very one dimensional fighter. I see Cain Velasquez showing his well rounded fighting skills in this fight by dominating Jake with his stand-up - causing Jake to shoot in. Once Jake shoots in it will be stuffed by Cain and this will keep the fight on its feet causing Jake to get worried. If Cain gets taken down, you could see him sweep Jake and end up on top and pounding out Jake for a victory. Either way, I see Cain being a better fighter in every aspect of the game than Jake O'Brien.

Jesse Holland: I'm probably in the minority here but I've had just about enough of the Cain Velasquez hype train that makes more noise at every stop than the 42nd street shuttle. Every camp thinks their guy is top dog but if you wanna be the man, you gotta beat the man (yes, two gratuitous Flair references in one post). Jake O'Brien isn't exactly "The Man", but at 10-1 he's certainly a formidable opponent. In fact, there was a time not long ago when O'Brien was 8-0 with eight straight (T)KO's. Not bad for a guy who is only known for his snoozer against Heath Herring and a farewell loss to Andrei Arlovski. At 3-0 I need to see a lot more of Velasquez before I anoint him as the savior to the heavyweight division and a victory over O'Brien would be a good start. Velasquez has a good wrestling background but I believe that O'Brien's is better - just as I think Velasquez has the advantage in striking. The key to victory for O'Brien is the takedown. If he can secure it, the fight is his. And doing some damage after he does secure it will go a long way in the eyes of many blase UFC fans.

Final predictions:
Mr. NC-17 — Velasquez via technical knockout
Jesse Holland — O'Brien via split decision

Frank Edgar (8-1) vs. Hermes Franca (18-6)

Mr. NC-17: Warning: This will be the fight of the night. Okay, since I got that out there, Frankie Edgar and Hermes Franca are returning to the Octagon after losing their last fight. This is an incredible style match up for the fans as we have a phenomenal wrestler taking on a brilliant Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu artist in Hermes Franca. Hermes Franca has not been inside the Octagon since his incident at UFC 73: Stacked. Now a full year later, will the cage rust affect Hermes Franca's game and cardio? The key to defeating Hermes Franca is to be in his face and push the pace and beat him with cardio. Frankie Edgar has fantastic cardio and could take a page out of Sean Sherk's book. Basically he needs to work on takedowns and submission defense to wear down Hermes Franca. But is Frankie Edgar's submission defense as good as Sean Sherk's? Hermes Franca to me has the better stand-up out of the two, but will he use his stand-up or will he attempt to shoot on the wrestler Frankie Edgar to find a submission? Either way, this fight is three rounds, and I see it going the distance with Frankie Edgar breaking Hermes Franca with his cardio and getting the win via split decision.

Jesse Holland: Frankie Edgar has come a long way in the lightweight division, but after the Gray Maynard fight, has proven he still has a long way to go. This is going to be an amazing fight if Hermes can hold up his end of the bargain. By that, I mean his cardio needs to be nothing less than 100%. Anything below that and he gives this fight away. After a twelve month layoff, it's definitely going to be his biggest hurdle. I give an immediate advantage to Franca in both the striking and the submissions, but Edgar has proven in his win against Tyson Griffin he can be difficult to submit. Franca needs to be the aggressor on the feet and let Edgar do all the work for him on the ground. When you have jiu-jitsu like he does, the guard is like a second home. It would not surprise me to see this fight end via armbar, but again the question is, how fast can Hermes apply it? Things move fast in the UFC and neither can afford defeat. A loss by Hermes and fans might see him as nothing more than a post-roid has-been. A loss by Edgar and suddenly he had a fluke win over Griffin and belongs in the WEC at 145lbs. While both or neither of them may be true, perception is often reality in this business.

Final predictions:
Mr. NC-17 — Edgar via split decision
Jesse Holland — Franca via submission

Brandon Vera (8-2) vs. Reese Andy (7-1)

Mr. NC-17: Brandon Vera has lost two straight to some of the top heavyweights in mixed martial arts. He did not look impressive against Fabricio Werdum and is very angry about how the fight ended. Now with Brandon Vera dropping down to 205, it should make Vera a bigger threat than before and it should make him a faster and stronger Brandon Vera. BUT... Reese Andy is not a can that the UFC is throwing in there to get Brandon Vera back on the winning track. Reese Andy has some of the best wrestling in the 205 division and has decent enough stand-up to survive and work the takedown against Brandon Vera. Brandon Vera is the heavy favorite in this match and rightfully so, he is more well rounded than Reese. Vera can use his Muay Thai in the stand-up and he has good submissions off his back. But, Reese has very strong wrestling that could keep the submissions from not happening. I see Reese taking down Brandon Vera and frustrating him. When Brandon gets frustrated he makes mistakes and I see Reese having the game plan of frustrating Brandon Vera with the takedowns. In all honesty, I think this match-up is not a good one for Brandon Vera and I see Reese Andy winning this fight via unanimous decision.

Jesse Holland: Either Mr. NC-17 has a fear of commitment or severe schizophrenia. Vera is good and Andy isn't but that's because Andy is better than Vera. Say what? Vera is going to clobber Andy after finally losing the freshman fifteen. He's had a bit of bad luck lately but I'm not going crazy over the loss to Sylvia because Vera was injured early in the fight and against Werdum he made a mistake that he definitely learned from. Vera has demonstrated a superior level of striking and his amateur accomplishments in jiu-jitsu are nothing to sneeze at. More than that, Vera ends fights. Of his eight wins, only one has gone to the scorecards. He's fought many of the worlds best and without disrespect to Andy or the IFL, there is nothing on his record that indicates he'll be able to overcome the more battle-tested Vera. This is about more than just beating a "name", Andy needs to string together a couple of dominant victories before I consider him a threat to any of the talent in a very crowded light heavyweight division. This one will be all Vera.

Final predictions:
Mr. NC-17 — Andy via unanimous decision
Jesse Holland — Vera via TKO

Anderson Silva (21-4) vs. James Irvin (14-4)

Mr. NC-17: Anderson Silva is the most dominating fighter in the UFC as of today and is moving up in weight class to fight the best in the world. James Irvin has said all of the right things and it sounds like music to my ears. James Irvin has fairly good stand-up and he has a iron jaw and has only been knocked out once in his UFC career. James Irvin has stated that he is going to be the bigger, stronger fighter when it comes to the fight against Anderson Silva. James Irvin might be right about that, but does bigger and stronger really matter if you are catching multiple punches, knees or kicks to the jaw from a very talented fighter like Anderson Silva? Anderson Silva has never been in deep trouble with any fighter. Will James Irvin be that fighter than can give him trouble? James Irvin to me is going to go in there with a reckless game plan. He wants to go in there and bang and keep this fight standing. Well as we have seen with fighters like Chris Leben or Rich Franklin if you go in there and attempt to stand with Anderson Silva, he will pick you apart and cause you to do something that will end your night. James Irvin literally has nothing to lose and has all of the confidence in the world that he is going to defeat Anderson Silva and that is something that has not been there since Anderson Silva destroyed Rich Franklin at UFC 64. Even though everything in me wants to pick James Irvin via TKO in round two, I think Anderson Silva will pick him apart on the feet and defeat James Irvin with a round three TKO.

Jesse Holland: It's hard to do a prediction for Irvin without it sounding like a eulogy but truth be told, Anderson Silva deserves every bit of praise that's come his way. In my recent interview with "The Sandman", he told me he has no desire to do anything but stand and bang - which basically means this fight will never see a second round. Irvin has some sensational knockouts to his credit and come Saturday night he'll have one more. That's right folks, I'm riding the Irvin camel right into the sunset and calling this the greatest upset since Serra/St. Pierre I. Irvin is not only a solid technical striker, he hits hard. And he knows how to use his knees as good as anyone. Mr. NC-17 thinks Anderson Silva has never been in deep trouble, which means he either became an MMA fan after UFC 67 when Travis Lutter had him mounted and was dropping bombs, or he was still in that self-induced coma he likes to call "recreational smoking". Irvin's biggest weapon going into this bout is his mindset. He's not afraid of Anderson Silva and I don't believe he'll be reckless either. Silva on the other hand might be a bit too comfortable atop his throne and that little smidgen of carelessness will be his undoing. Silva will feel bloated and sluggish at 205 and the extra weight will decrease his usually deadly speed. Irvin on the other hand will be firing on all cylinders, will out-muscle him in the clinch and bomb him right back to middleweight where he belongs. It's time to believe!

Final predictions:
Mr. NC-17 — Silva via TKO
Jesse Holland — Irvin via TKO

That's a wrap, folks.

Remember to come check us out after the show for all the latest results, recaps and our coverage of Ultimate Fight Night 14.

What do you think? Now it's your turn … let us have it in the comments section and share your thoughts and picks for UFC Fight Night 14.

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Congrats NC-17, I take it you got the job…good for you! I’ve never seen two different writers have a different opinion on almost every fight. Andy beating Vera? I doubt that! I really think the two main events of the two shows will be great. Would hype it more, but wouldn’t have a friday conversation then. (I was convinced mania would’ve picked that up, I actually put some thought into those “segments”…OH well!)

by kevin on Jul 17, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everybody is doubting Reese Andy. I have seen him fight, and Reese Andy is a good fighter, and I think his take downs will frustrate Brandon Vera. I don’t know if this fight will be exciting, but I think Reese Andy will win the take down battle and eventually the fight. I mean look at it, if Reese Andy wins, I look extremely smart, and if he loses, so what I am the only guy to pick Reese Andy…

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jul 17, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that I am doubting Reese, I just will be shocked if Vera looses 3 fights in a row. Especially at 205 where I think he will be very tough to beat. He will look better than ever at this weight similar to how Bisping looked when he dropped down to middleweight. Of Course Reese is better than McCarthy, but this is a very important fight for Vera, and I wont be betting against him, this time (I bet Werdum over Vera)

by john on Jul 17, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t forget Vera is an excellent wrestler himself. I see Reese going to the ground by himself (compliments of Vera’s strikes),before he has a chance for a takedown. Reese is getting KOed in the 1st.

by Gord on Jul 19, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TMZ is reporting that police picked up Rampage again!

by kevin on Jul 17, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im telling you, this guy is gonna end up like Tyson. Its pretty sad.

by the_mexicutioner on Jul 17, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to not even watch this event and watch the replay next Saturday afternoon when it re-airs, making next saturday mma madness, where i could watch the UFN during the day and catch elite Xc at night, because all I need on Saturday night is AFFLICTION!!!

Who am I kidding, no way I could wait a week to watch this event, especially since I will have money on a coule of fights and will want to know the results anyway.

Looking forward to Affliction and DREAM and I hope that these UFC fights aren’t as lopsided as they appear to be on the surface.

by john on Jul 17, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bad pix man, bad pix jk

by BLOodyMEss on Jul 17, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey stinky, thanks for the restaurant advice! N.O. fish house was excellent and the china grill looked great (too limited for my wife). I’d highly recommend cartoise (wolfgang Puck) in Caesars. Great Chinese food.

by kevin on Jul 17, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1st(maybe) anyway after reading jesse holland’s predictions on how irvin is going to beat anderson silva in the standup game i lost all credability that he knows anything about mma. yeah, silva can be beaten and irvin has a punchers chance but to actually say he is gonna win is completely insulting. irvins striking game is descent but please dont rate him any where on the level of anderson silva just because he ko’ed alexander with a superman punch. lets keep it real

by elmoblood on Jul 17, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that too. Jesse has earned my respect over time, but I don’t see this happening either. I think this will be a way better main event than some people are giving it credit. By the way, I hope Jesse Taylor knocks CB out cold!!

by kevin on Jul 17, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have to agree with jesse…i absolutely know what anderson silva is. but whether irvin is at the top of 205 or not. eh is one hell of a solid 205er. your judge him from his bad luck in the past. he is a very real muay thai artist from the best camps in thailand. maybe silva is technically more savvy but that wont matter. i dont see james irvin in any real trouble in the clinch. he will have to make a mistake in order for silva to capitalize on that. irivn hits hard enough to put any 205er to sleep. anderson silva hits hard as hell, but does not have the definitive one punch KO like irvin.dangerous dangerous fight for silva. and elmoblood i keep it real as well as jesse. he knows what he talking about…you judge fighter from fights…stupid way to anylyze it. you need to study their syltes. and irvin has the stand up style to put silva to sleep. they both have reach. great stand up. good ko power solid chins…but silva has never been hit by one punch ko 205er in his life. this fight can easily both ways..but i see rivin coming off a great upset!

by santiago69us on Jul 17, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irvin got subbed by freaking Stephan Bonnar, I still give him a punchers chance, even though silva has never been knocked out. To say that silva doesn’t have one punch KO power is rediculous. He makes people loopy with jabs. Anderson also isn’t some idiot, if he feels he is losing the standup, the ground game is an option for him, and is not for Irvin.

by James S on Jul 17, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

settle down chief, he makes good points, anderson isnt a machine and he can be beaten, dont act offended

by Dave on Jul 17, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“You cut him! You hurt him! You see, he’s not a machine, he’s a man!” Apollo’s former trainer and Rocky’s trainer for fight vs. Drago in Rocky IV.

by PW on Jul 17, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The few times Anderson got beaten was when he was on the bottom and someone had him in side control (not to mention a long time ago). Saying that Irvin is just going to be too much for Anderson in stand up is just crazy.

by BNF's B_tch aka LINX on Jul 17, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i see alot of gusy down talking ppl for their picks…if your knowledge of mma is so much superior then the other…put your money whre your mouth is i got 200 down on irvin to win.. you make thinks its a foolish loss..then put you cash silva.

by santiago69us on Jul 17, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no thanks, I don’t bet.

by BNF's B_tch aka LINX on Jul 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

smart move linx. it is actually just as much fun to watch mma without gambling than with it. plus you dont have to bet money to prove your knowledge or show your loyalty to a fighter imo. also it helps keep a better disposition (for most people) on the fight when you dont have money riding on one of the fighters.

by b.w. on Jul 17, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree b.w., and on top of all of that, I was taught never to play with money, regardless of the amount :P

by BNF's B_tch aka LINX on Jul 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why have you lost respect for Jesse? Makes no sense. It all honesty, I think that James Irvin has the best chance to date to defeat Anderson Silva. I think James Irvin has very good stand-up and he has a chin that can have him tolerate Anderson Silva shots. Jesse practically hit the nail on the head, and I think James Irvin can knock out Anderson.. but I am taking Anderson still.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jul 17, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know if Irvin has the chin to take Silvas shots, not many do and he’s been Koed a couple times, but he sure as hell has enough power in everything he throws to knock Anderson out if he catches him. Irvin has a knack for throwing “fancy” stuff, flying knee, superman punch, ect..it could pay off for him in this fight, or it could also get him in trouble with Silva..it will be interesting

by mma dude on Jul 17, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irvin’s chin is not the problem…Silva is going to destroy his body with knees, 1 will catch the liver and it will be the beginnig of the end, but hey, I got sum chump change on Irvin so I cant loose!

by john on Jul 17, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve already said this on another blog, but I am definitely in the vast minority that wants Irvin to win. Anderson Silva’s incredible, but I’m tired of people acting like he’s just gonna mow everyone down every time, and with this fight specifically most everyone is very wrongly overlooking the fact that Irvin does have a shot to win it (and I’m not just talking about some random “puncher’s chance”).

by No One on Jul 17, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im with ya brother, i hope irvin wins too, the sad part is anderson is a humble guy but his fans are definetly not and way to over the top and obnoxious

by Dave on Jul 17, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta love fans who let other fans decide how they feel about fighters. Why do people do this? Am I the only one who judges a fighter by the actual person whose fighting, and not by some random people on the internet? Mind boggling, really…

by yohnstoppable on Jul 17, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no dude what im saying is, if anderson loses maybe his loud mouth fans will be quiet for at least a couple days

by Dave on Jul 17, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah dave but it sounds like you want him to lose because his fans are ‘obnoxious’ supposedly not because of Anderson himself or because you really think Irvin can beat him.

by BNF's B_tch aka LINX on Jul 17, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way man, i said this fight had upset potential the moment i heard about it, and i am a james irvin fan, his fighting style is INCREDIBLY entertaining to watch, and there is no supposedly, his fans are obnoxious, and if you even try to disagree with one of them, they gang up on you like a pack of wolves, im not saying anderson isnt a stud but dont jump me when i say hes beatable

by Dave on Jul 17, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anybody is beatable, and I’m an Anderson fan, I just don’t think I’m obnoxious :)

by BNF's B_tch aka LINX on Jul 17, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally agree with jesse, irvin with another huge upset.

by Colin D on Jul 17, 2008 11:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey John, did you ever take a look art that Fedor video that I’ve been plugging specifically to you for a month now???

by kevin on Jul 17, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The genghis con one?
 I have been a huge fan of his videos for a while now. The Genki Sudo one i my favorite, and I like all the grand theft titles one! and the sakuraba vs. Smirnova one…Fedor’s last emperor is great and they have some great ones featuring Takanor Gomi

by john on Jul 17, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rampage might officially be the Mike Tyson of MMA!!! Next we’re gona hear him say “I want to eat Forrest’s kids” “I want to stomp on there testicles” “I want them to feel my pain”

by JV on Jul 17, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As all the facts aren’t in, I’ll wait to pass judgement. However, reckless driving and attempting to elude the police are a far cry from rape and cannibalism in the ring, don’t you think?

by chefdaddy on Jul 17, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe for his next fight he’ll knock someone into Bolivian.

by PW on Jul 17, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“bolivian” LMAO!!!

by JV on Jul 17, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

by Nick J on Jul 17, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great picks. i’m with jesse on the fact that i think Irvin will get the win. im hoping this one lasts atleast 2 rounds and is an all out technical boxing clinic. Personally this fight has “fight of the night”, if not “fight of the year” written all over it… too bad ill be watching affliction and have to catch this one afterwards.

by Luke64 on Jul 17, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if anderson silva already beat the PRIDE 205 pound champ what makes anyone think james irvin will beat him? and also rich franklin twice who was a top contender at 205 and will be again if he does indeed move up. he wont have a problem fighting a bigger guy.

by AzCombat on Jul 17, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think it won’t last a round either i think silva will win but i won’t be surprised if their is a upset with irvin winning
silva needs to just stay at 185 regardless of the outcome

by bryant on Jul 17, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesse, you’re right about that Coco the Monkey vs. El Boca Grande match. It needs to be a Loser Leaves Town match or a Texas Strap Match or something.

by PW on Jul 17, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Jesse, I forgot that Travis Lutter mounted him… but guess what… Anderson took his long legs and got him off.. So I forgot one little detail. I still think James Irvin is going to go in there and be a little reckless, but I really do not see either of these guys going down in the first round.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jul 17, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Taylor-UD
Johnson-TKO
Velasquez-TKO
Edgar-UD
Vera-TKO
Irvin-TKO

by c-war on Jul 17, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No one seems to be mentioning Franca’s striking very much. He said in his UFC.com interview that he’s going to use knees. Franca almost KO’d Sherk a few times with those deadly knees and throws bombs with his hands as well. I can see picking Hermes by sub, but I’m going with TKO.

by Scott on Jul 17, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I said that Franca had the better stand-up. I think Franca could possible KO Edgar in this fight, but I doubt it.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jul 17, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also believe Irvin will KTFO Silva but no matter how it goes its going to be a great show to watch.

by LanceLegweak on Jul 17, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man…why all the doubters? Silva’s where he is for a reason. He’s been in trouble several times (Lutter and Henderson), BUT he figures it out and came back to totally dominate and end the fights. Silva by TKO in the second.

by SeeRed on Jul 17, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing u have to look at when betting with these odds (4-1) is that if you bet on 4 of these fights with these odds, you only have to win ONE fight out of every 4 u bet on to stay even… I love these odds!!! Irvin FTW!!!

by brendan on Jul 17, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What’s this Silva has never been in trouble talk?

Wouldn’t you say he was in trouble when he was crying in agony when Chonan caught him in that crazy heel hook? Or when he tapped to that triangle?

by Alex on Jul 17, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

UFC wise.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jul 17, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok gotcha.

by Alex on Jul 17, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Frankie Edgar is gonna do just what Sean Sherk did to Hermes, good call NC17!

by brendan on Jul 17, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dollaway – DU
Johnson – TKO
Velasquez – TKO
Franca – TKO
Vera – TKO
Irvin – KO (Knee)

by emiliano on Jul 17, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to disagree that Irvin has power… but……

He has very predictable setups, his shots and rhythm are very easy to pick up on.. People act like all the sudden Irvin is a beast and can just throw a rediculous combo that puts people to the canvas..

He has some highlight reel KO’s.. but none of them are against top teir fighters.. All his KO’s come by way of the “other” fighters poor judgment..

Houston Alexander – walked right in with his hands down and chin up. Has just as much power as Irvin but really piss poor boxing defence. More or less he either didnt respect Irvins power or made a terrible rookie mistake in their fight..

Luis Arthur Cane – Irvin was getting beat on and won a DQ from taking a knee to the head while he was down.. Nuff said..

Hector Ramirez – Again was going toe to toe with Irvin and at points of the fight looked like he could put Irvin down just as well.. Unfortunately he likes to keep his chin up and walked right into a stiff jab.. followed by shots once he dropped..

Terry Martin – Was actually winning their fight untill he came out at the start of the second and shot in with his head down.. Again not going to happen with a calculated fighter like Anderson..

Also dont forget to add that this is a guy that lost a decision to Lodan Sincaid… of all people..

He isnt a wrecking machine type of fighter.. He has a bunch of high-lows in the UFC against the smaller level guys. The reason people even remotely think Anderson could lose is beacuse Irvin does have heavy hands.. But thats it !!!! Essentially Anderson doesnt have to play standup with him “IF” he chooses not to. He could very easily pick him apart with better foot work, faster hand speed, WAY better head movement, and the fact the if anyone hasnt noticed, Anderson like to let his opponents get in a comfort zone and sort of settle in before he engages. He seems to turn it on the moment the opposing fighter starts to get aggressive. He drops down in to that long tucked stance and starts pushing forward like a stalker. Anderson is more or less a counter fighter, but also has the ability to to stalk and push forward.

I thought the guys that used the Hendo comparison were spot on. Because thats a good test to prove his worth (no matter what the weight is). People seem to forget that weight and size doesnt always play a factor in fights. It would to the average guy but to the top athletes in the fight game, more often than not someone is almost always oversized in a fight. Anderson is far from the biggest fighter even at 185. He might be taller than alot of his opponents but by body composition, Franklin and Okami are both bigger than him.

Size wont be that big of an issue in this fight. Strength ?? maybe.. But deffinately not size. Size doesnt equal strength. I see guys in the gy mall the time that are considered skinny but have enormous strength. Anderson is deceptively STRONG. He is much stronger than Franklin and that says something. Franklin is a strong guy. He relies on his strength for alot in his fights and got out muscled in both their matchups..

Anderson also trains with guys much, much bigger than him. If he can hang with Big Nog even in the standup I think he’ll do just fine with the Sandman.

I would not be surpised at all to see the Spider set up a nice combo and follow up with a takedown and then round out the fight with a submission.. If I were fighting I would deffinately look to take advantage of his weaknesses and that one sticks out like a sore thumb !!!!

Another thing I picked up on the other day as I was analysing some fights was that Irvin fights very similar to that of Robbie Lawler.. Great power puncher.. Decent kicks.. terrible submission defence…

Robbie started losing fights when his opponents could out reach him and pick him apart.. Look at his Nick Diaz fight for example.. Diaz beat Robbie at his own game, the standup.. Simply because Robbie could not get close enough to be effective with his right hand. Nick kept circling away from Robbies right and countering with his longer reach untill he tagged him on the button…

Anderson being a southpaw will probably be able to effectively counter Irvins big right hand on reach alone. If Irvin comes in droping that lead hand when he throws the big right, he will get tagged.. If you look closely at Irvins punching posture he has a tendancy to drop his left slightly before he throws. He hardly ever throws with the left first. That was very easy to pick up on right away.. He also has a tendancy to plant his back foot before he throws which leaves him stationary and an easy counter target. He is a power puncher. He doesnt put his combo’s together moving.. He has to plant and throw his weight in it. Anderson fights backing up ala the Iceman. He has that rangey counter ability that not alot of fighters have.. The only difference is he knows when and how to use it as opposed to when he was younger..

by The Truth on Jul 17, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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