UFC Quick Quote: Cain Velasquez to be the first Mexican UFC heavyweight champion?
by MMAmania.com on Jul 15, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
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"Right now, he could walk in and be a good pro boxer. He could not only be a good kickboxer, but he’s K-1 level (the Japanese group which is top organization for heavyweights in the world). He won a world championship in Jiu Jitsu (World No Gi world champion in the blue belt division in late 2007, 17 months after his first class). He’s the fastest learner I’ve ever had. And nobody trains harder. He trains harder than the lightweights.... But think about this, a dominant heavyweight champion, and he’s Mexican. There’s never been anyone like that yet."
-- Javier Mendez, owner and head trainer at American Kickboxing Academy (AKA), heaps praise via Yahoo!Sports.com on up-and-coming heavyweight prospect, Cain Velasquez. The former Arizona State University wrestler is undefeated in the Octagon (1-0) and will look to make it two straight when he takes on Jake O'Brien at UFC Fight Night 14 on July 19. Mendez feels that Velasquez right now can defeat former UFC champion Randy Couture and ranks him first among the most promising prospects to walk inside his gym -- in front of Josh Koscheck, Frank Shamrock, Cung Le and B.J. Penn. That's some serious company.
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I couldn’t help to notice his tattoo that said “brown pride”, now what would happen if a white guy had a “white pride” tattoo? I think we all know what would happen. Todays double standards are just sickening.
by LanceLegweak on Jul 15, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BROWN PRIDE!!! once you go brown, youll always be down!!!
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no no! u guys got it all wrong!
brown pride means he does girls in the butt and he is proud.
u know’
- he ride the dirt roads
- he is the conductor on the pooh pooh train
- he is gets in the backdoor without even knocking
- he has his brown-belt in ju hits pooh
and he is damn proud of it! why does everything always have
to turn into a racial debate?
by ~stinky~fingers~ on Jul 15, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stinky, A Mexicans Brown Pride is not the same as your brown pride. People say experience talks!!!
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jv- sorry i did not know that -thanks
i just thought that maybe cain had the same meaning i do.
it was just a guess.
i was just choosing the non racist side of the convo.
u can go back to the racial debate now.
sorry agian- cough cough~nazi~cough cough
by ~stinky~fingers~ on Jul 15, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give you one thing stinky fingers you are funny!
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks jv!
u know i got the posts with the mosts.
by ~stinky~fingers~ on Jul 15, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still on the floor LMAO @ Ju Hits pooh lol
Well done Stinky for keeping it real and not taking things seriously, a man after my own heart :)
by Automation on Jul 15, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m mexican too but “brown pride” label seems a bit racy, “mexican pride” would be better and makes more sense.
by Ro on Jul 15, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, I have Irish Pride on my left shoulder. It seemed better than White (ill tempered, beer drinking) Pride.I have seen a few guys with Black Pride before, but it was hard to read unless I was up close.
by naturalshadow on Jul 15, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stinky…I’m reading this late so you may not see my post, but I have to say I have tears in my eyes right now I’m laughing so hard. You rock.
by Bob on Jul 16, 2008 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep that shit in the prisons and among the ignorant.
As for people bein shocked to see Mexican heavyweights, don’t be so surprised. There’s alot of big Mexicans out there, it’s just they can’t find a spot in Boxing since Boxing is just about fast hands and thats it. I mean it’s almost routine to see a Mexican get out-pointed by some guy with soft fast hands in Boxing.In MMA, they’ll be able to represent themselves with just about anyone. They’re big enough, and they’re tough enough, and they can hit. Im personally lookin forward to this guy’s career unfold.
by chiefy on Aug 20, 2008 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“what would happen if a white guy had a "white pride" tattoo”
He’d rightly be labeled a racist. Just as anyone with a brown/black/asian/etc. “pride” tattoo should be.
by No1Dad on Jul 15, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep your political views to yourself.
No one is interested.
This is an MMA site.
Go to a CNBC or CNN site for political views.
by OJR on Jul 15, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However, it is a tattoo right in the center of a MMA Fighter’s chest, so I actually find it somewhat relavant, especially since this thread is all about Cain Velasquez, I mean, how often do we talk about him?
by ViolentMike on Jul 15, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t say White Pride, but if you had one that said Scottish Pride or Ukrainian Pride, that would be OK.
by PW on Jul 15, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PW:
Scottish Pride is a loaf of bread so that would be OK lol
by Automation on Jul 15, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t really even look that brown. Maybe Off-White Pride was just too long?
by naturalshadow on Jul 15, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah really, who cares if he’s mexican? What does that have to do with anything??
by theCloser on Jul 15, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t if anyone else metioned it but brown pride is also a big latin gang, I’m not saying he’s in a gang it’s probably just him being proud of his latin heritage.
by dice23 on Jul 20, 2008 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mania: I am fast but u r swifter! lol…I was just about to post that! Even better, u turned it into a thread! good stuff!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very interested in seeing Cain’s next fight!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
awwwww Sh*t isnt he fighting “the king of wet blankets” Obrien?
That guy could make an anderson Silva fight boring!
I cant wait till the release that bum!…Hopefull Cain ko’s him back into wrestling, cuz mma is just not his thing!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.. He likes to dry hump his way through the whole fight.
by PhilQNY on Jul 15, 2008 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Cain’s wrestling is good enough to keep the fight standing so I can watch him knock Obrien’s Block OFF!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absoltely, or at least his blue belt BJJ is enough to submit Jake “Irish Blue Balls” O’Brien.
by ViolentMike on Jul 15, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont even want to see O’bren having the satisfaction of taking the fight to the ground…I hope it stays standing so “blue ballz” lol will be like a fish out of water!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t sure if anyone would get my newly created nickname for Jake. Everyone knows he prefers to dry hump his opponents to victory, which led me to two possible nicknames, which do you guys prefer?
Jake "Irish Blue Balls" O’Brien
or
Jake “Cum Stained Boxers” O’Brien
I was thinking the first, so I ran with it….
by ViolentMike on Jul 15, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta go with Irish Blue Balls. On a sidenote, I wonder if any fighters come on this site and get absolutley p.o.ed at finding they have nicknames like these?
by chefdaddy on Jul 15, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be funny if they did, Chefdaady! the cabana boy, and Tuppaware seem to get a beating on this site….I hope Gurgel and M<cCarthy stay away from this site!
Kudos on the Irish Blue Ballz…..Suits him perfectly!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes that would be hilarious for you! and im sure being a fighter myslef famous fighter probably browse the net! and i know for a fact joe rogan and the likes are always online!
plus this site is alot closer to idiot free than sherdog!
on a side note i see not alot of people are talking about fitch and gsp
by the heat on Jul 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only white cats would complain about a “brown pride” tattoo. It’s not the same, and Cain is not racist for having the tatt.
Get over it white people, you know your role.
We get the pass and you don’t.
It’s as simple as that….
by Mig on Jun 19, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.sherdog.com/Videos/Videos.asp?v_id=911
Cain’s takew on his UFC debut.
by PhilQNY on Jul 15, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by john on Jul 15, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mexican and Heavyweight, those are two words that normally go together. Im now officially a Cain Velasquez fan.
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JV: I wonder if this big ass Mexican Enjoys long romantic walks on the beach like u do? LMAO
Just messing with you today, I am in a good mood, not trying to start an argument with you today…maybe tomorrow, but not today! Cheers! viva la raza!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!! Hey man let me enjoy the first Mexican HW. Those two words (mexican & HW) are not in the same sentence ever. Its about time we hear some spanish music in the cage entrance. They should give him a title shot on May 5, to promote to the spanish community. Im only joking, but I do hope he does well.
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its Kool! hey, u still got Eddie Sanchez! I like Spanish Music, but PLEASE NO MORE Mariachi Bands!
Get a lil salsa in the UFC like Rafaella Carra’s “Mara Caibo” thats a pimp song! U guys didnt know I was this cultured did you?
On a serious note, this Heavyweight seems like he has a really bright future!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh sh thats funny, Eddie Sanchez! I dont claim that guy.
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you, I wouldnt claim him either! lol Is he pure chicano or does he have some Albino in him?
by john on Jul 15, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know anything about him. Ive never cared to get any info on him.
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont blame u, for some reason, I hate that guy!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing wrong with a “White Pride” tattoo. One would need to do some theoretical work to make it clear that “White Pride” refers not to white supremacists or one of the various skinhead groups, but, let’s say, to “dead white philosophers” or classical economists. The point is to make sure that white pride and brown pride or black pride can co-exist peacefully, without one demeaning or looking down upon the other. Historically, white pride has meant the exact opposite of the latter.
by James on Jul 15, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on with the stupid Race arguments. MMA is a worldwide sport that features Fighters from most of the countries through out the world…kind of like Soccer!
Who cares? Great he is proud to be brown, get over it! As an Italian its just a dumb conversation because we dont really have a color of our own. WE arent really white (like the Irish, or Englsh), and we arent brown…so what color am I? I dont know…I guess I represent the color Tan….but WHO CARES!!
Should I go get “Tan Pride tatooed on my arm” this is just a very stupid conversation!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m getting MMA pride this weekend. On my inner thigh so nobody can see it. I don’t want to open myself up to verbal attacks from biased media….bastards!
by James S on Jul 15, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get it anywhere you want, as long as it’s not on the lower back. lol
by chefdaddy on Jul 15, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lower back would have been the first choice, but I already have a trbal there. lol
by James S on Jul 15, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A tribal tramp stamp? I have never seen one of those. It would really be unique if you added some kind of flower (maybe a rose?) to it.
by naturalshadow on Jul 15, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JOHN. i wish i had a tan. i would have to get a pale power to represent. ha!
by b.w on Jul 15, 2008 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I havent seen the sun much this year! I have been finishing up with my school…I am just Tan by nature (sicillian/Roman)……….When I do get tan, I usually get really Dark skinned!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lucky you. i have a friend that is 1/4 cherokee and that dude tans in one day and stays dark almost year round.
by b.w on Jul 15, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO, I agree John and your post had me laughing. BTW, 100% Italians are caucasians no? And if Cain was from Brazil, he’d be called caucasian here… Where do ppl get this brown stuff from? brown is not a race.
by BNF'S B_tch aka LINX on Jul 15, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A family friend marrried a Brazilian girl about two years ago. I thought that she was black up until last week when I was told that she was Brazilian. Some Brazilians have very dark skin.
So Brazilians are caucasian???? Just curious, Phil, what box do you check when filling out paper work?
by ViolentMike on Jul 15, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here in Brazil we have all races Mike, kind of like the US. we have white ppl, black ppl, asian ppl, and so on. What I meant is that brown (here at least) is not considered a race. Wandy here is considered white, anderson silva black, machida asian and so on. They’re all Brazilians, all different races, but no one is brown. if Cain was from Brazil, he’d be considered white. If you’re friend is dark skinned she is probably black, just like she would be if she were from the US.
by BNF'S B_tch aka LINX on Jul 15, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never in my ENTIRE LIfe, did I check the box next to “White”, when filling out forms! NEVER! I always checkd the box next to “other”.
Maybe its cause I am from south Philly, and the Italians were always at War with the Irish, growing up in the hood, but NO I dont consider my self white…..I am Italian….way to much Soul to be white! lol
by john on Jul 15, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, to this day I’m baffled that you guys have to inform your race when filling out a form. When I first heard this I thought it was madness. I never have to worry about that, no government including mine is going to have my race in some sort of database so they can profile me, never! I’d type other all the time too if I was in the US…
by BNF'S B_tch aka LINX on Jul 15, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear I have been typing “other” since I was 5 years old and in Kindergarden. I dont know why, I guess cause you see the list of all the other nationalities For Example:
Black
Hispanic
Native American
Asian
and then White….since I was a young buck, I was always Super Proud of my nationality and NEVER in my life let them profile me as white!
I get what u r saying though, its pretty ridiculous!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I know is I’m not a Caucasian. I check other as well. I have no idea where friggen’ Caucasia is. LOL
by grembone on Jul 15, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caucasian, means: of european decent. Sorry John, but arians RULE! Or did anyways.
by NewGuyTheGunMan on Jul 15, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok Hitler! Sorry dude, I am italian. THere are many different Nations in Europe, and they are all pretty different then each other so in no way do I feel that I shouhld be grouped with those other countries. I am ITALIAN, you are caucasion!
by john on Jul 15, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
john were you born in Italy? if not, then you aren’t italian. you may be of italian descent, but you aren’t italian. nationality is where YOU were born, not your ancestors.
by kitsunex on Jul 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Kitsunex, and YES I was Born in Italy, so last I checked I am Italian! I actually have a duel passaport making me an American and Italian citizen….“How u doin?”-Norbit lol
by john on Jul 15, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always checked Native American, that way I could start a casino if I wanted.
by naturalshadow on Jul 15, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the guy becomes a superstar. The UFC could use another heavyweight superstar right about now. No disrespect to Big Nog at all, but he’s pretty much the only “superstar” in the UFC’s heavyweight division at the moment, not withstanding a handful of important names who could yet (or again) become superstars.
by MMACrossfire on Jul 15, 2008 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Velasquez, Carwin, Lesnar. There’s the future of the weight class. It will get better if Dana ever gets around to having an all-HW TUF with real HWs, not 220-pounders who drop to LHW as soon as the show ends.
by PW on Jul 15, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude sounds like a bad ass. ok im going back on my pick haha obrian is going down!
by doomdoom on Jul 15, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the ufc doesnt have the best hw roster out there right now, affliction does, but in a few years with young guns like cain,shane carwin, and brock mixed in with some good vets like big nog,werdum,mir,herring,gonzaga and kongo to test them, the future looks bright. until then the ufc can easily rely on their lighter weight classes to keep them on top
by b.w on Jul 15, 2008 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont think Affliction has any HW’s. Tim & Rothwell are with Adrenaline. Arlovski is still a free agent. Fedor is still M-1, I think? So who is really signed with Affliction for more than 1 fight?
by JV on Jul 15, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true! it will be interesting to see on how well these orgs work togehter after this event.
by b.w on Jul 15, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain is a beast!!! Definitely a future UFC HW champ.
by The Mymus on Jul 15, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DONT YOU NEVER EVER PUT!!! josh the “bloody blanket” koshcheck in the same column as frank shamrock, cung lee and BJ PENN EVER!!!!!
by Dan on Jul 15, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Ricco is of Puerto Rican ethnicity although he is obviously American born.
by OJR on Jul 15, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His favorite addictions have come here from Columbia though.
by naturalshadow on Jul 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain Velasquez place of birth: Yuma. Arizona U.S.A.
Although your ancestors may have been – You’re not Mexican, dummy.
by Ernesto on Jul 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should get some more tattoos so that shit don’t stand out ass much.
by Ktown on Jul 15, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it too much to ask to be treated the same as everyone else? Why are only certain races allowed to have pride in their race? I mean, were all the same, atleast thats what ive been told by the media for 30 years. Stop the hypocrisy and let white people have “pride” tattoos aswell.
by LanceLegweak on Jul 15, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, our white pride tattoos go great with our tribal armband tattoos from the various tribes that white people clearly belong to.
by PW on Jul 15, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol first mexican ufc heavyweight champion. You will never hear first ‘white’ heavyweight ufc champion because then that will be labeled as racism. Remember you always fear what you don’t understand :) I have a lot of celtic tribal tattoos actually, you don’t have to be brown to be part of an ancient civilization or tribe. The celts were 5000 year old tribes.
by srd on Jul 15, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
some serious hype for someone who has ONE fight in the UFC
by brendan on Jul 15, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is some funny sh8t in this site!!! I say if caucasians or (cocklikeasians.hhhah just kidding) wanna have tatties in their titties let them have it. In the end is only a tattie. Styles make fights and if Cain keeps fighting like an animal..watch out!! By the way, I completely have to agree with this other post ..“Even today, you’ve got racism and stereotyping to the point where blacks and hispanics are essentially taught by American society to be ashamed of themselves.” (this is a smart cookie). I’ll be surprise if Dana the “sperm cell” will give this guy a chance at all.
by Evil6 on Jul 30, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know the name of the song that Cain entered the cage with?
Someone told me the artist was Don Omar, but I don’t know any more beyond that.
by Mig on Jun 19, 2009 3:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To the guy who thinks Italians aren’t white.
Who the F do you think you’re kidding. You flat-assed no running no dancing honkey. No one except Italians thinks Italians aren’t white. And the only reason you guys are claiming non-white SUDDENLY is because you saw MC Hammer do the running man, Michael Jordan dunk from the free throw and Michael Jackson do the Moon Walk and then O-Boy ALL OF A SUDDEN you weren’t white anymore because white became uncool.
You’re still white as hell next to any other race (even with your obsession with tanning salons).
You were flyin the Whitey flag proud back in the day when it was advantageous to be white. And no one thought you weren’t white then either.
And Everyone. I MEAN EVERYONE.. is laughing their asses off at Italians who think they aren’t white.
Sorry to get off topic guys but that dude was really annoying.
Sorry to embarrass you Italian man. Get back on the honkey train…sell-out.
by Anon on Jun 29, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cain was born in America, So that makes him an American, not a Mexican, so why does his ignorant ass hold Mexico’s flag and sport Mexico’s colors and call himself a Mexican? He’s a good fighter but he’s an ignorant fucker, I find it offensinve that he sports Mexico’s shit when he’s technically an American. Why do people of Mexican decent always fly and sport the Mexican flag? If Mexico is so great then why is your ass living here? why did your parent’s risk death to flee that shithole? If you love Mexico’s flag and colors so much them maybe your “Proud to be Mexican” ass should go live there! President Rosevelt said" A person who claims to be American and something else , is neither, you are either an American or not" There is no such thing as a Mexican-American. You are either or! So if love Mexico’s flag more than America’s flag and choose to waive that around, then maybe you should live there and quit commiting treason by waiving another countries flag around here!
by USA on Oct 8, 2009 3:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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