Do you want to be a fucking fighter?
by MMAmania.com on Jul 11, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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"I'm looking for a well-rounded athletic fighter, but the most important thing to me is record. It's very frustrating in my job. I don't look for victims. I pride myself in making competitive matchups.... I don't care what happens in the gym. Lots of people do well in the gym. Going in the cage is a completely different thing, so I want to know how many fights do you have and who did you fight.... Did he beat up a bunch of guys who, this was their first fight? ... or did he beat up a bunch of guys who had multiple fights and this much experience?... (In early MMA) if you had somebody who didn't understand jiu-jitsu, you could beat them without being much of an athlete," Silva said. "Nowadays, everybody knows. There's no secret techniques. People know, and they cross-train. Being an athlete quite often is what makes the difference."
UFC matchmaker and vice president of talent relations, Joe Silva, on how to become a UFC fighter. Aspiring competitors take note. It isn't all about signing autographs and banging broads.
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i want to be fucking fighter . i`m going to be the uilmate fighter .
by tz swanger on Jul 11, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Ro on Jul 11, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe rogan’s face was a picture lol GOOD STUFF!
by icefish on Jul 11, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want to compete in the octagon, but I’m afraid of the long-term effects or damage that this sport could have on me. Like brain damage for example. Did you know that a single punche to the face with the magnitude of let’s say Serra, could cause my skull to recoil so fast and that will make my brain slosh in cerebral fluid and hit the back of my skull, then bounce back to the front of my skull, causing multiple trauma. I wouldn’t want that happenin’ to me…Daym!
by TheNegation on Jul 11, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you WILL NEVER be a cage fighter… EVER. Reading what you said just made my brain hit the back of my skull and bouced back…. Whatever.
by MMAFan on Jul 11, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why I said I wouldn’t want that happenin’ to me, 1diotboard!
by TheNegation on Jul 12, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, he fails sometimes to deliver…
by BNF's B_tch aka LINX on Jul 11, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think for the most part, he does a good job and gies us good competitive fights..but fights like Cote vs Almeida shouldnt be happening this day in age..especially being considered a #1 contender match..1 dimensional vs 1 dimensional only works now if they are both the same “dimension”. in my opinion, which means nothing..oh well
by mma dude on Jul 11, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about chuck vs evans, what was that?
by BNF's B_tch aka LINX on Jul 11, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I smell Dana White all over that one though!
I wonder how Joe Silva got his job? Anyone know what he was doing before being UFC matchmaker? He is like my hero…Luckiest man on earth!
by john on Jul 11, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he answered a ad in the paper then worked his way to the top around UFC 9 i think
by icefish on Jul 11, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know Linx, i dont see either chuck or Rashad being one dimensional..Rashad can strike, chuck can wrestle…i dont see this fight being boring because neither of them are willing to engage (like the Cote/Almeida fight).. basically Rashad being undefeated earned him a shot at a big name, i think it was a spur of the moment thing when they set it up last time before chuck got hurt, now i think they just feel like they should go through with it anyway. If Shogun was coming off a win it would be him vs Chuck or Rashad I imagine
by mma dude on Jul 11, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could do a better job than Silva. I could fight the dude for the job, hehehe!!
by TheNegation on Jul 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy has the best job in the world (besides being a Playboy photographer).
by Haze on Jul 11, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man! I was about to get into mma so I could sign autographs and bang broads too. Oh well, I’ll wait for the next fastest growing sport to take off.(badmitten, you heard it here first)
by Procannonfodder on Jul 11, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no way, Folf is the wave of hte future. i’m getting in on the ground floor.
by kitsunex on Jul 11, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Do you want to be a fucking fighter?”
WoW! Look at the big balls on Mania. And I thought this was a more pc fan site. Congrats!
by Rumbler on Jul 11, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nobody follows the rule on this site anyways lol
by icefish on Jul 11, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Silva made a valid point. I still will question how they pick UFC fighters..who are contenders for the title. How the TUF guys..get special treatment. How a more deserving fighter gets bumped, because he less marketable..or doesn’t speak english. My wish is the that UFC brass.. give title shots to the most deserving fighter, regardless of MMA politics. Have a Anderson Silva type consistent title defense from all champs throughout the year. Keep current Champs off the TUF show. Stop BS’ing us fans.. we are not that retarted.
by PhilQNY on Jul 11, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Valid points all.
But its obvious that MMA is still a bottom line business and you are going to get golden boys pushed ahead of less charismatic fighters.
Its about the cash, bro. (Karo voice)
by OJR on Jul 11, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“we are not that retarted” …apparently we are
by eightyproof on Jul 11, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what they are doing in every turn. I espress the good and the bad. They can’t Bullshit me.
by PhilQNY on Jul 11, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is, the more deserving fighter is an opinion. I don’t like immediate rematches. I think Forrest should fight Chuck if he gets by Rashad. Rampage should face Wandy for the next crack at the title. Everybody keeps saying Machida but in reality he beat a fighter who had a total of 4 fights and beat a very washed up Tito! Big deal! That’s my opinion but how do you know who really deserves it?
by Robert on Jul 11, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You select a panel of well informed and respect MMA people. Lay out the facts..
If I was on this panel.. With all the mixed reviews following the Page vs Forrest fight. An immediate rematch is needed.
Chuck after loosing in a non competitive fashion to Page and then dropping a decision to Jardine..following with a decision win over Wandy..now set up to face Rashad.
If you was to beat Rashad..have him fight one top tier LHW to then recieve a title shot.
I would like to see Chuck fight Lyoto Machida..but he and Forrest have shown no intrest in fighting him. Now wher does that leave us?? hummm…
The UFC is placing 2 of the top LHW contenders against non-contenders in their next match.
Once Shogun was unable to face Chuck. Chuck should of been giving an opponent that can beat him.. Such as a Lyoto..or Thiago Silva/ or even Brandon Vera. No.. the ufc gives him the easiest road back to a title shot. Just for the $$ value he has in a title fight picture.
To summarize : Page automatic rematch.
Then Lyoto is next in line / or when Chuck beats Rashad.. have him face Lyoto to decide who is next in line for a shot the UFC LHW gold.
by PhilQNY on Jul 11, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil: I completely Agree! Unfortunately Machida has already officially been screwed out of a fight because yesterday his manager gave an interview in which he stated that the UFC is saying Machida needs 1 more win before fighting for the title and the UFC has booked him to fight someone in October but they wont disclose who. A good friend friend of mine that occasionally gets a few inside scoops (living in Vegas) has heard that it will be Machida vs. THiago Silva.
This means that Wanderlei will fight Rampage and Chuck will get 1st crack at Forrests title as long as he can beat an over rated Rashad.
I dont like it as much as you, but I am afraid this is the reality. once again, the hardcore fans get screwed over again so that the UFC can appeal to the casual TUF nuthugger fans! Its SAD!, but atleast we will get some good match ups out of it, but Chuck does not deserve to fight for the title win or loose!
by john on Jul 11, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again I think it’s a matter of opinion. Chuck knocks out Tito in a very noncompetitive fight last December. Machida beats Tito but almost gets caught in a submission in the process. Chuck beats Wandy in a 3 round war and Machida beats a fighter with a total of 4 fights. Rampage lost the fight in IMO, let him work his way back. Give Chuck another crack at the crown that he held for so long. I don’t see how that is that unfair. If they wanted to give Chuck an easy road back to the title why did he fight Wandy? And then have a scheduled fight with Shogun? Not exactly an easy road. I actually don’t watch the TUF show if that’s what you are saying about me. I just love MMA and I think Forrest vs Chuck and Wandy vs Rampage is not that way off. Your thoughts?
by Robert on Jul 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the button with that point, and I also think Chuck and Rashad is going to be a good fight. Everyone is always saying that Chuck is only a counter striker, thats b.s. He will counter strike but he sees an opening he brings it to whom ever his fighting, he will not let Rashad just sit back and pick his spots.
by Rubberman on Jul 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t quite understand how a fighter can turn down fights. I mean, Joe Silva should say, “Your next fight is a going to be against……” And you either say yes to it, or you don’t get a fight and a paycheck.
by chefdaddy on Jul 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive always heard that chuck never even asked who he was fighting, just when. i have been all over this site saying that i think machida deserves it over chuck, but when i sit back and think about it, didnt chuck make 7 title defenses all together? 2 against randy, 2 against babalu, 2 against jacob (when he could still fight and 1 against gumby. im probably wrong on 1 of these, but thats pretty damn impresssive. im not a big chuck fan, but 7 defenses is unheard of in todays mma world. and it wasnt all against lesser competition like hugheses. and with consecutive wins over wandi and rashad (yet) i think im starting to change my mind on deserves what.
by b.w on Jul 12, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana said the winner of Bisping vs Rashad gets put into the top 5. Wandy is already in the top 5, Chuck beats him and if he beats Rashad(tougher fight for Chuck then people think) WHY NOT GIVE HIM A TITLE SHOT. Machida is a good, hard to beat fighter, BUT who has beaten thats in the same class as Wandy?
by Robert on Jul 12, 2008 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Fitch is a prime example. He was going to be o TUF but got dumpted! And had to fight his way to the top with a 8-0 record while cote’s record is 5-4 and he is a title contender
by icefish on Jul 11, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to be a fuc%ing fighter, but as it turns out I am lazy. I would rather hide behind my keyboard talking sh%t, then I like to go home and drink beer and yell at my TV, how bad, the fighters that would kick my a$$, suck.
by BNF on Jul 11, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO YEAAAA!!! that was Fawesome. plus you make better $ at your current job.
by kama kaze on Jul 11, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL! This year sucks, but last year I gaurentee I made more than 90% of the fighters.
by BNF on Jul 11, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What business are you into BNF?….It’s amazin’ too that you’ve made Linx your biatch…
by TheNegation on Jul 11, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious post BNF! Don’t worry, you are not alone in this.
by chefdaddy on Jul 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic: does anyone know when the UFC will make Alves vs Sanchez official?
by DB on Jul 11, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too close to call right now, give me a monthor two and I’l be able to formulate an opinion.
by DB on Jul 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also off topic. Anyone know when Henderson will be fighting again? Silva is fighting next week and Hendo isn’t even scheduled yet.
by DonnyG on Jul 11, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
palhares looks like he can handle himself
by icefish on Jul 11, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can handle himself on the ground alright. But if Hendo decides to stand and bang, poor little palhares should be in trouble.
by TheNegation on Jul 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked Dana if I could fight Marlon Sims inside of an UFC octagon at UFC 77. He laughed and said Fuck No. Marlon Sims will never step foot again in the octagon, keep your hopes up kid maybe one day.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Jul 11, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I pride myself in making competitive matchups……yea like ummm Rashad vs Chuck? ok ok ok I’ll give him a break Forrest did beat Rampage and Jardine did beat Chuck…but sometimes I wonder about his competitive matchups….
by Chadx23 on Jul 11, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They should poll the fans, and let the fans pick a few fights.
by Tito is Still Bada$$ on Jul 11, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wanna be a f#ckin fighter! yea in my dreams!
by Ro on Jul 11, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My family are MMA fans. I am 39 and have four children.
Do you mind cleaning it up a bit?
by darlyn on Jul 11, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are other MMA sites to view. We won’t miss you.
by Chainlink on Jul 11, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol now now play nice children are on this site
by icefish on Jul 11, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you and your family follow a sport who’s biggest org is headed by a guy who can’t go 5 minutes without dropping the F bomb you should consider what they are being exposed to. I hardly think this site is the biggest problem you will face…
Don’t they swear on the pay per views also…?
P.S. It is just a word, you shouldn’t be so uptight. Your kids will hear it somewhere, and they will probably use it. It will not hurt them…
by tm2k on Jul 11, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last i checked it was YOUR responsibility to police your children’s activities on the internet, not MMAMANIA’s.
by kitsunex on Jul 11, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your family is not plural bro. You need to clean up your grammar. Your family members are MMA fans or your family is MMA fans. Take a look at cleaning yourself up before you tell others to clean their stuff up.
by GSP4Prez on Jul 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
violence is ok, but watch your language? sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me
by Egads on Jul 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can sign autographs and bang broads all day. What do you mean I can’t be a fucking fighter?
by PW on Jul 11, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather stick with my band and do the same things a fighter does w/c is sign autographs and bang broads. But currently, since we’re not yet famous, I should stick first to bangin’ broads, wehehe!!
by TheNegation on Jul 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then why is James Giboo in the UFC? Four out of his past six “wins” are against guys who have records of 0-1! A guy on James Giboo’s list, Jason High, is 6-0, and has beaten Giboo and Kevin Burns who is also on this card!
by Scott on Jul 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo slice is the real deal . A Facking fighter, an athlete…a PHENOM.
by Robert on Jul 11, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
against bums and dudes who cant fight anyway….
by Chadx23 on Jul 11, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was the last UFC PPV a sign of great athletes putting on a great show?? The co main was lame, the main was so so. The best KO took place on the undercard that was not even televised, so they had to show the clip post fight. And with Leben headlining a card in the UK, how can anyone with a straight face say he is a great athlete, or a talented fighter????
by DRE on Jul 11, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dre Leben is Leben thats diffrent we need some brawlers! Leben aint no bum! Leben R.I.P
by Tony on Jul 11, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be getting all the women and NOT having to sign autographs. lol
by chefdaddy on Jul 11, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say what about the systems where you do not really have any full contact tourneys or any compititions at all, what if there is a guy that is a great fighter and he knows he is good from everyday life situations or from sparing with friends in other systems that do have full contact tourneys. Say buddy takes wing chun or kali or Krav Maga os some forms of Karate, Kung fu, Capoeira what ever; say buddy is confident and experience to know he can give an take a beating and has enough pride to suck it up and go out there and bang it out till the end no matter what happens. I think it would make the sport more interesting and exciting to see more martial arts systems compete Id be like “wow look at this guy hes studied shaolin kung fu for 3-4 and has been training some BJJ”, I think that would increase the popularity, I know for a fact that if there was a guy that is a wing chun practition fighting on UFC on the next payperview I would be calling all my buddies from my wing chun class and would be ordering it for sure.
by Tyson Harris on Jul 12, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s kind of how the UFC started out, system versus system, to see which one was better. (They were put on by the Gracie’s to prove BJJ was better, as well.) Eventually, it was found that no ONE style was the best, but rather taking the best things from each one made for a more formidable fighter. In general, BJJ, Thai kickboxing, boxing and wrestling are the main ones fighters focus on.
by chefdaddy on Jul 12, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the UFC does is put Chuck in against grapplers with limited striking ability. I’m sick of it. I give him credit for the win against Silva but that’s about it. He will beat lay and pray evans easily and get his title shot.
by BigHoss on Jul 12, 2008 7:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of having the mma community choose who battles. Make it non-title.
Fitch vs Kos
I hate when guys wont fight each other or are too scared to fight guys who might beat em.
ITS BS
by Yikes on Jul 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey bighoss, since when was Randy Couture limited at anything.
I just hope shogun comes back in top shape. Everyone is saying Evans is a bum, but I thought he fought forrest( I’m not sure). They said the same thing about Jardine. My problem with the UFC is they didn’t let Rampage defend the belt enough. He went 10 month without fighting and the ring rust was evident. No champion should ever go 10 months without fighting, It isn’t fair to the fans or the other fighters. Especially when the Ufc labels LHW the most hotly contested division. If it is that hotly contested don’t make us wait 10 months for a title fight.
by CLETIS on Jul 13, 2008 2:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Got a little mixed up on Sugar Evans past,He didn’t fight Forrest, he beat Jardine who beat forrest, and had a draw with Tito. I know Tito doesn’t strike fear into a lot of fighters anymore but He has beaten some quality fighters and I dont remember him losing to any bums. I don’t really know how good the guy Evans is, but he should be better than he’s ever been. Training and experience go a long way. I mean Who thought a couple years ago that Forrest would ever be champion. I always liked him as a fighter but I had no idea he could take it to Rampage like he did. I think Rampage is one of the best fighters out there. We need to give Rashad a chance, and if he beats chuck he deserves a shot at the title. If chuck beats him, give him a shot. Everyones dissin on Chuck like they already forgot he beat Wandy. I know Rampage has beaten him two times. but Wandy beat rampage two times. different styles produce different outcomes.
by CLETIS on Jul 13, 2008 4:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Joe Silva
Heavyweights you need in the UFC
Two of these will be World Champions
Marko Zschorner 4-0
Daniel Tabera 11-1
Yoshihiro Nakao 7-1
Mike Wessel 6-0
Maurice Walker 6-1
Jordan Smith 4-0
Stefan Struve 14-2
Chris Tuchscherer 14-1
Tony Sylvester 10-2
Marcus Vanttinen 7-0
Neil Wain 4-0
by Joe Key on Sep 17, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is joe silva a monkey? I just watched the may 4th show and i swear the losers of those fights were doomed to begin with. Tonight was just a night to add wins to certain fighters score cards so they can be “undefeated” later on PPV. I almost stopped watching UFC when Hamill beat bisping and still lost the descision. But now im done.
ps, how dare you guys air that racist comment by anthony johnson
by The one and only on May 5, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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