UFC Quick Quote: Brandon Vera could stay at 205 after UFN 14 Reese Andy fight
by MMAmania.com on Jul 9, 2008 11:48 PM EDT
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" ...everybody's saying that my power looks and good and actually my kicks look faster and harder now. I was 212 (pounds) today at the end of practice ... I think it's working to an advantage. It's making me hungry and meaner.... I wouldn't mind staying at 205. It's all up to UFC in their grand scheme of things. We'll see what's going on and what they have in mind.... Talent-wise, man, the who's who of 205 in the world is in the UFC right now. It's ridiculous, it's a whole long laundry list of who's who. And the heavyweight division — you can pull, I think, maybe six guys out of the heavyweights. So yeah, I would say that 205 is way more stacked."
-- Former heavyweight contender Brandon Vera -- who will make his light heavyweight debut against Reese Andy at UFC Fight Night 14 on July 19 -- tells the USA Today that he could remain in the 205-pound division if the organization sees fit. However, "The Truth" is still bitter about his loss to Fabricio Werdum at UFC 85: "Bedlam" last month, which he and many others feel was stopped prematurely. He would like to avenge the loss at some point ... especially if Werdum is able to one day soon capture the heavyweight strap.
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Vera will upset alot of the top dawgs in 205.
by Spiderman on Jul 9, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
QUESTION: Can anyone tell me anything about: Pang Sung Hwan is the DEEP LigthWeight Champ????
by john on Jul 10, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess not, well For those that did not know, he will be facing Takanori Gomi at the August Sengoku event.
by john on Jul 10, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun eyeing a DECEMBER return! and Dana says if he had to guess, the UFC will be on a major network in about 3 months! Lets hope its either HBO or FOX
by john on Jul 10, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes me think.. I wonder if EliteXC can ever do any programming on ESPN seeing that CSB is thier parent company.
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ABC is ESPN’s parent, not CBS. CBS is head of Showtime, MTV, BET and The WB.
by PW on Jul 10, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m wetodded. Sawwy.
What a brain dead morning I had today.
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what r u talking about? did u smoke wet?
by john on Jul 10, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Truth, I hope he does well and stays at 205, He could be a threat in he future to anyone at 205 right now, I’m mad he lost to Werdum.
by Chase on Jul 9, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chase – Brandon Vera vs. Anderson Silva. What do you think? Tell you what, if that ever gets scheduled, I may find a way to attend. So far, the UFC hasn’t come very close to Maryland, with the exception of Jersey (UFC 78).
by MMACrossfire on Jul 10, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that fight, I’m not an Anderson Silva fan, But I love Vera, I would love to see the fight, If he could KO Vera, strait up flatline him, like franklin did to Quarry, I would actually finally be a Spider fan.
by Chase on Jul 10, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOOOHH. I REALLY like that match up! Anderson vs Vera. Intersting…
The funny thing is is that you can take Anderson Silva and match him up with any of the Top 205ers and you are going to have an exciting, blockbuster fight.
But Vera is more of Muay Thai striker, which the majority of the top 205’er are not, which would make for a very interesting fight with The Spider
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it would be great, too bad its out of the question. Silva stated that he wants to stick with 185 lbs. So a realistic yet great match up would be:
Vera vs. Machida!
by john on Jul 10, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Interesting fight that could take place in December would be:
Vera vs. Shogun!~ That would be 1 hell of a muy tai clinic!
by john on Jul 10, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if 205 becomes unsuccessfull, there is always 185 guess.
by bradpittfightclub on Jul 10, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Copy/Paste from the USA Today interview:
“Q) In retrospect, what would you differently to demonstrate that you’re still in it?
A) I don’t know. I go over that a lot, too, Sergio. I’ve asked a couple of other guys.
When the referee was talking to me, I told him I’m okay three times and then he stopped the fight because he said he thought I said, “OK, stop the fight.”
I’m like, what the hell? That doesn’t make any sense. I’ve never heard “OK” be used as a safety word, ever.
What are other words could I have come up with? I’m fine? Everything’s hunky-dory? I’m super-fantastic? Like, what else could I have said besides, I’m okay? And I had to respond to him, I felt at the time, because he was talking to me. I had to make sure he knew I was still conscious.
Just horrible. "
LOL, I’m hunky dory!
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahaaha…I like the Truth and I’m glad he smartened up. I think he had big goals and wanted to accomplish them, I remember his interview on a UFC fight night where he said he wanted to be the LWH and the HW champ at the smae time. I think he can be the LWH champ. I think this is a more natural weight and I really like his chances at this weight. His striking will be up there with the best in the weight class and he will be quick too.
by Shadyone33 on Jul 10, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to like him but now it seems like he’s all talk and no action. Finally after losing 2 in a row (even if that was a controversial stoppage, he wasn’t exactly winning either)he decides to try his luck in lhw. Which is fine but it now seems like he’s trying to justify going down in weight because that’s what Dana wants and that he wants to be in the division with all the talent rather than the fact that maybe the fighters at hw were just too big/overpowering for him to handle. Don’t get me wrong, he can still compete at hw but don’t think he’ll ever be near the top.
by DrHarry on Jul 10, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have liked to have seen Vera eventually face Brock Lesner. At least Vera would certainly find out if he is too small for heavyweight. haha
by naturalshadow on Jul 10, 2008 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DrHarry, I actually think the opposite. I think that Vera has become much more down to earth since he returned from his 1 year lay off and Sylvia fight. When Vera first came onto the scene he was super cocky and after like his first UFC fight, during his post fight interview he said he was going to be the first ever HW and LHW champ. Wake up buddy, you just had 1 fight in the organization…. I thought that Brandon was much more arrogant and cocky back then than he is now. I seen a recent interview he did with Mauro Renallo and he was very cool and down to earth.
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I remember those days. He may be more down to Earth but still needs more humility. Hopefully he does well in lhw.
by DrHarry on Jul 10, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MANIA.wow! i just saw my 1rst t.v. ads for affliction. they were pretty good. the ironic and very strange thing about them is where i saw them, on SPIKE t.v. during an UFN replay. i dont belive ive ever saw a channel run an ad for something that is in direct competion with them, and on the same night as well! that doesnt make any sense at all to me. i know that the ufc doesnt own spike, and that affliction probably paid alot to get them aired at this time, but how do you advertise someone who is in direct competiton with you. it could possibly take fans away from ufn 14 show, wich could hurt spike’s ratings. im sure their sponsers cant be too happy with this. nor dana white. whats your take on this!
by b.w. on Jul 10, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I used to work for a cable company with marketing and Affliction may be using the local cable companies to advertise on certain channels targeted at certain age group or cohort.
For example, when I worked for mediacom during Iowa Hawkeye football games advertisement would air about Iowa State football and etc.
by Mr.FancyPants on Jul 10, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did anyone else see these ads on spike during the tuf replay. did anyone watch spike tonight. i am in the central time zone and midwest area. was this just regional or national. east coast, west coast? anyone out there.
by b.w. on Jul 10, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought that Tuf was to horrible to watch for a 2nd time, so i didn’t watch it, I should have though so I could have seen the advertisement.
by Chase on Jul 10, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what sucked about it? the leben/martin fight was good. and the quarry/pete sell fight kicked a$$. you sure you watched it the 1rst time?
by b.w. on Jul 10, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were both Gassing and just thowing whatever at the end, I guess i just don’t like How Kenny and Din, fight ended.
by Chase on Jul 10, 2008 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s becuase i was diapointed with the ending of Kenny and Din.
by Chase on Jul 10, 2008 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw those ads on Spike a week ago and I thought I was just tripping and no 1 else mentioned it…I guess it was true…I didnt understand why the were on spike but it was a pretty good comercial
As for Vera, he can have more success then at LHW then he could at HW, and if he fought at heavyweight he would fight B-level fighters, at 205 he can have big matchups with the top dogs and hang in there with most of them./
Vera vs. Machida!
by john on Jul 10, 2008 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the interesting thing about that Kenny and Din fight was that at one point, Din makes a motion — a quick running motion — indicating that he thought Kenny was running from him.
If you watch the fight — like I did the second time, knowing that Din does that in the fight — you see that Kenny throws and lands (though they are blocked) several leg kicks and several head kicks — probably about 20-25. However, every time Din went to throw a leg kick or something, Kenny would change the angle and Din would pull back from the kick.
In other words, Kenny was throwing kicks all over the place, but Din wasn’t quick enough to land any on Kenny… so he accuses Kenny of running.
I’m not sticking up for Kenny — he’s not my favorite fighter — but just because you can’t figure another fighter out doesn’t mean they’re running. I felt the same way a bit in the Starns fight. Now, there’s no doubt Starn WAS running, but I still felt Nate should have gone for a takedown, tried to clinch and dirty box, or ANYTHING! If a guy is running, back him into the fence and MAKE him fight!
by Soups on Jul 10, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Din’s little running motion taunting Kenny and then blowing out his knee is karma at its finest.
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr.FancyPants – Yeah, that sounds right. Going to the local cable companies directly allows them access to specific demographics. I missed Spike T.V. between 9PM and 11PM, so I don’t know what they had on tonight. (Usually watch while working out.) Didn’t see any Affliction ads after 11PM. But I’m not surprised. It’s a great idea, excellent, in fact. They’re targeting the best demographic.
by MMACrossfire on Jul 10, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BW, just a couple weeks ago when I was talking about Affliction and the fact that I have yet to see a commercial, I brought up the question of whether or not they’d be able to advertise on Spike since the UFC is affiliated with them. I had no idea whether or not.
I was saying it would be a good idea for them to run thier commercials on Spike during UFC events and also, even better, on CBS during the Kimbo/Thompson event.
So far I seen the commercial, but only on HDnet
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know this was a spur of the moment event put together, but it kinda sucks. theres anderson silva, hermes vs frankie, vera, and… who else? 6 guys making their ufc debut on the undercard. thats kinda unheard of. but whatever. i’ll still watch it. hopefully these unknown guys will put on some good fights.
by Sparxx on Jul 10, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was very impressed by Anthony “Rumble” Johnson’s last performance (brutal KO of Tommy Speer) as well as Kevin Burns’s (who is a blue belt) submission of black belt Roan Carneiro. One of them is the real deal, and I’m about to find out who.
I’m also interested in the outcome of Jesse Taylor vs. CB Dollaway, although I don’t think the fight itself will be very good.
by Roon on Jul 10, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rumble is on te rise, thats for sure. After he whoops up on his opponent next weekend, I would like to see Rumble face a top 10 guy, not a top 5 just yet, but a top 10 fighter, to see how much is skill and how much is athleticism.
by john on Jul 10, 2008 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then don’t buy the PPV, O wait It’s FREE on spike tv, so quit your dammn complaining.
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Jul 10, 2008 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when he wins..lol i wonder who they will throw at him next?? bonner hamill thiago?? any ideas?
by tuffguy01 on Jul 10, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MMA MANIA. i also just noticed that you have an ad at the top of your page that reads FORREST GRIFFEN SUCKS. do you think griffon (the way it is spelled on the ad) is the worst fighter ever. vote now. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!. are you guys that desperate for ad money? i know there are some readers who will love it, but most will see it for the insult that it is.
by b.w. on Jul 10, 2008 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now it says forrest griffen rocks. what does it change every 30 min?
by b.w. on Jul 10, 2008 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, this coming from the guy who said he’d be the first guy in the UFC to hold belts in two different weight classes at the same time. HW and LHW.
I’m a pretty big Vera fan, but always thought he was a little bit too full of himself. I do like watching him fight. I think the move will only make his fights that much better. He kind of gets pushed around at HW.
by Punk Rock Scott on Jul 10, 2008 1:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have always thought that Brandon Vera was highly overrated in the heavyweight division. What really made me dislike him was that there was always a reason for his loss. First the broken hand(well, this is legit) and then the controversial stoppage. I’ll admit it was stopped early, but damn, his ass just ate 20 punches and wasn’t doing much to get out of mount. I thought it was kind of lame that fans protested the stoppage and took the thunder out of Werdum’s victory. With that said, I think Vera will do really well at LHW. I think he will have the strength and reach advantage that will give fighters problems.
By the way, can anyone point me to a good MMA discussion forum that isn’t filled with dummies? Sherdog forums is filled with idiots.
by Chris W on Jul 10, 2008 2:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Werdum DOSEN’T deserve any thunder. The ref beat Vera (he didn’t have a scatch on him), Werdum didn’t. That would be like the ref jumping in when Vera rocked Werdum , and saying thats it, you’ve had enough. Actually that wouldn’t even be as bad, because Werdum was at least rocked , Vera was completely FINE. His ass DIDN’T eat 20 punches, his GLOVES did, it’s called INTELIGENTLY DEFENDING YOURSELF.
by Gord on Jul 14, 2008 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by pUniSHment on Jul 10, 2008 4:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vera is more suited for 205 and should do very well at that weight. I’d love to see him fight Jardine.
by DJ on Jul 10, 2008 5:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same guy that said he wanted to hold both the LHW and HW belt.
by Luppers on Jul 10, 2008 8:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone can dream… Vera will never be HW champion. He belongs at LHW and should mix in nicely. I don’t see him as the LHW champion but most of us didn’t see Forrest with the belt either.
by DJ on Jul 10, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we should crucify him for setting high Goals?
I have no problem with the statement he made, I dont think he will ever acheive it, but as a fighter you have to think that way.
by john on Jul 10, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you don’t say it in the octagon, with the current LHW champ in the crowd, after your first UFC win. I mean, he was only 5-0 at the time. That’s not even close to as good of a record as Nate Loughran (8-0) or Johnny Rees (10-0) who both make thier octagon debut’s on July 19th. Would you think that the winner of that fight can justify grabbing the mic and claiming that they will be the first ever MW and WW champ at the same time?
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a nobody at the time, what do u expect? U call people out to get attention, I dont like it but I get it! Everyone does it…look at Sokoudjou, he does it all the time…. Its definetly not a good enough reason to hate on the guy….He has been a class act since coming back, and I think he has been humbled, so I for one am cutting the guy a break….His attitude doesnt bother me, his last 2 performances are what bothers me…. I would prefer to see him fight like he us3ed to and talk all the smack in the world, then fight like he has recently and be a class act.
VM: THis is coming from the biggest Nick/Nate diaz fan in the world? lol
by john on Jul 10, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh John, I was actually saying that Vera has gotten much more down to earth as of late, since his year off and losing two fights. That’s what I said up above in response to DrHarry.
STOCKTON BABY!!!
ANd its wierd, for all sports, the brash, cocky, outspoken athletes – certain ones I love, yet others I hate. I have yet to discover the line.
by ViolentMike on Jul 11, 2008 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy is rubbish! i mean lets start talking about fighters performences and not the opponent! as this guy fights like a girl in his last couple of fights!
by Tony on Jul 10, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
205’s better for him, there’s more exciting fighters to fight in LHW than HW division. i don’t agree with Vera still compete in HW, there’s alot of monsterous HWs which could give Vera a tough time to reach for HW title shot, waste of time and contract. the fights will be more exciting if he compete with 205 fighters. i’d like to see him take on Wandy, Spider, Sandman, Forrest, Iceman, Rampage (Vera trains with Rampage, likely not happen but hopefully)and more.
by Ro on Jul 10, 2008 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heres the question where do u rank vera at 205???
1.forrest-jus cause hes the champ by shady judges imp
2.rampage-should stil b champ fight was a draw
3.machida
4.thiago silva
5.shogun
6.vera
7.chuck-i know all u chuck lovers will b mad but hes on the decline bad face the fact even dana has a new boy toy to give title shots they dont deserve his names forrest,,,but in dec danas wet dream may come true forrest vs chuck god help any real mma fan from haveing to see it
by juggalomike on Jul 10, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would put Rashad and Jardine ahead of Vera at this point – he has to make his mark in the division just like everyone else to receive any sort of ranking.
by DJ on Jul 10, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Anderson Silva made the announcement today that he was staying at 205, where would he be ranked at this moment?
I think he is instantly Top 5.
JuggaloMike, for your list, Thiago Silva is too high. He is Top 10 but not Top 5 in my opinion, simply because he has yet to beat anyone of signifigance. I’m a Chuck hater and I’d have him higher than 7. Wanderlei Silva would have to be ranked higher than Thiago and Vera as well.
by ViolentMike on Jul 10, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question was where would people rank Vera… to compare placing Vera with placing the best P4P fighter on the planet is crazy. Vera is a middle of the pack HW moving down a division. Anderson is a pure bred destruction machine who would garner a unique placement in any division he moved to.
by DJ on Jul 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For clarity… GSP, BJ, Anderson are not “everyone else.” They are the somebodies everyone else wants to be.
by DJ on Jul 10, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duh your faster stronger and feel better. your in shape for once at 205.
by doomdoom on Jul 10, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vera cuts to 205 because he cant hang with the big boys at hw and he knows it but wont admit to it because of his ego….. he finally realizes taht the best thing for him to do is to 205. it
by mr.rice-a-roni on Jul 10, 2008 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?…Hes put Mir down, and Frank Beat Lesnar, and regardless of Brock’s ligitamecy as a fighter brock was winning that fight. Not to mention the other “Big Boys” hes either tapped out Ko’d…Vera can hang with the HW’s just got back on the road with 2 losses right off the bat. Vera broke his hand with the first punch he threw at Sylvia, and a stupid ref early stoppage with Werdum.
by ntvmma on Jul 10, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a foolish argument.so vera’s good because he beat someone who beat someone else blah blah blah.vera revealed himself to be a piece of crap when he didn’t fight for a year because he wanted to get greedy.you’ll probably see vera in elite xc by the end of next year.he’s old news get over it.as for Mir he’s coming off of back to back wins and fighting for a title.where’s vera? oh yeah he washed out of the division all together after back to back losses.
by AiripsuS on Jul 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not having wand on that top 7 list is silly.
by paz on Jul 10, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reese looks like he has a good chemist hooking him up…
by DRE on Jul 10, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vera chickened out and was suppose to fight Machida, but then again, I’d hate to fight someone that constantly runs from you like Machida did against BJ Penn…Otherwise BJ would have KO him as BJ landed several great shots even while Machida ran away.
by CaptainAmerica1967 on Jul 10, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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