Bisping should beat Leben and Cote then fight for the title.

wtf? Cote is not gonna fight Bisping whats the sense in that, he just beat Almeida for christ sake and is pretty much guranted a title shot in December or somewhere round there, Bisping is fighting in October so do you think Cote is gonna waste his time and put his title shot on hold to fight Bisping. Bisping will probably face Quarry after the Leben fight and if he wins them he’ll get a title shot and your crazy if you think Bisping can beat Silva.

Maybe Cote’s title shot will be against Okami. (just kidding). But no one is even considering that.

Never say never. I thought Forrest would never beat Rampage. Boy was I wrong! I do agree with you Kenton, Cote doesn’t deserve a title shot after a performance like that.

The only issue is that Anderson is running out of top notch opponents at 185.

Your right.. Looked like he smoked el fatty.

Disagree… a round ends when the bell sounds. How long would you be allowed to hold someone in a triangle after the bell sounds and what if they started to slip could you reposition? All of this happening after the round ends??? Not a chance…

The bell didn’t save Machida in that fight, he escaped because Tito let go of it. Please watch it again.

just a thought, hate seein a guy about to get his arm snapped, then comin back to win the later rounds and the fight when he was clearly beaten. I know it’s probly not practical, too much gray area.

If that rule would have been around back when BJ and Pulver fought the first time, BJ would have won the belt that night.

The rule would never work, for example if someone was getting ground and pound and the bell rang it would be the same situation for the submission. The bell is the bell

Machida wasn’t saved by the bell vs Tito. At least watch the fight before commenting on it

maybe a restart from the same position in the next round but no the bell is the bell!

Just get rid of rounds and let them go at it till it’s done. That is the only way to go if you want to make it real. At the very least make it a 15 minute fight and a 25 min champion’s fight. No breaks, just pure will and heart.

I think something might have been lost in translation. I am assuming he was trying to say (or said) that the title shot is Machida’s not his (Silva’s).

I was thinking the same thing, usually Silva is very respectfull of other fighters.

I think Machida would out-point Forrest’s even if Forrest had the reach advantage. i think he is just So Much quicker than Griffin.

Silva’s probably just pissed coz his pal hasn’t been given the nod yet for a title shot. I think he deserves it.

Forrest and Griffin were supposed to face each other at UFC 76 anyway!

damn I would love to see Forrest fight Griffin .. wait a sec… what???

Forrest and Machida were supposed to face each other at UFC 70, not UFC 76.

O damn-

LOL. Good stuff.

Machida has beaten top ten and top five fighters.

Machida and Silva train with each other and same with Filho

dont forget the nogueira’s.. machida and anderson were coaches on this TUF that just wrapped up.. i seen that somewhere on google

I want to see Machida fight Wandy, and if by some miracle he wins, then I would have to join the crowd and say give him a shot. At the moment, I see no reason for the UFC to risk having such a boring fighter (Machida) as their champion. Yes, he is very skilled, and his style is effective, but in the biggest division in the UFC, you should really be able to finish a majority of your fights to be a champion.

Well I was being serious and this is why. Anderson/Leban then title shot, Rampage/Eastman then title shot, Penn/Pulver then title shot. Who else has done more for the UFC’s popularity than Chuck? So Chuck/Wandy should have brought him back, but he was still going to fight Shogun thats 2 top 10 guys. Who has Machida fought thats top 10??? At least let him fight 1 top 10 guy, then maybe a title shot. And he has to make it exciting.

Its takes two fighter’s to see a action packed fight.

When Chuck was LHW Champ..he had all but cleaned the “wrestlers” in the division. Page had killed him in Pride.. that’s why Page got a warm up fight and was pitted against Chuck..who else at the time was more worthy of a title shot??

Who was threat to Franklins title at the time. He defened his title against Evan Tanner, Nate Quarry, Daveid L..who was a threat at middle weight to Fanklin then. Silva was.. that’s why he got his title shot after his warm up fight with Leben. ( And how he beat Leben put an ! on why he deserved the title shot.

Chuck loses to Page. Loses to Jardine. wins a decision over Wandy..will most likely beat " another wrestler "..in Rashad.. and he gets a title shot over either Thiago Silva/ Machida who are IMO the 1 and 2 top contenders today for the title..outside of Page..who deserves a rematch.

JV, I have made the same point before, but no one will listen. As far as timing is concerned it needs to be Machida. We had to wait 9 months last time and Chuck doesn’t fight for a couple more months. That would mean we have to wait until the end of the year. Machida is ready now. I do not want to wait to see Forrest fight again for 6 months. The only other option would be an immediate rematch with Rampage (which I don’t think he deserves).

PhilQNY, I can agree to an extent. But you guys are still not answering the question. Who has Machida faced thats top 5 or even top 10? To me a win over Wandy is way better than 10 wins with B-Level fighters. And if you just look at Chucks last 3 fights then yes, no title shot yet. But a win over a guy who destroyed Rampage. Instead of a Machida win over Tito who is past his prime. Who would you prefer?

BNF, if Machida got his title shot in that (timing) then I guess it would be ok. But to say Machida deserves it is wrong. I say give him a top guy, and if he wins, (no matter how boring) then yes give him the shot after that.

People still to forget that Soko was top 10 before Lyoto schooled him, and some rankings still have Soko top 10. Some rankings still also had Tito in the top 10 before Lyoto beat him. Tito had fought Rashad to a draw, and could have won if he hadn’t grabbed the fence. Rashad had won all his fights coming in to that fight. Lyoto has also beat BJ Penn (who’s dangerous in any weight), and KTFO’d Rich Franklin.

JV: I get what u r saying, but Machida doesnt turn down fights…his opponents do…U cant blame the guy because none of the top fighters want ot fight him…In my oppinion he is floating at the top of the division right now, if no one wants to take a chance at dethrowning him, then let him fight for the title!

Anyone who says Machida hasn’t fought anyone good is stupid. He fought Sokodju who was and still is in the top 10. He fought Tito who basically beat Rashad. I don’t believe this, people say Chuck should get the title shot if he beats Rashad. Machida beat Tito who proved he was better then Rashad and only earned a draw beceause he’s an idiot and grabbed the fence. Machida is undefeated and has dominated everyone who has been put infront of him including Sokodju (a top 10 fighter) and Tito (Who is every bit as good as Rashad) and needless to mention he’s not coming off 2 losses like Liddell. Liddell beat Wandy and all the sudden he’s the #1 contender? This is complete bullshit.

TIME OUT PHIL:

Thiago Silva a top 2 contender. Who has he beat? Houston….Drwal….injury win over Irvin….come on man. Don’t get me wrong, I think this kid is the future of the division, but his undefeated record isn’t exactly glowing with top level opposition. A. Silva should already be higher up the contender list than Thiago. Lets put this all to rest here and have Machida fight Thiago, then we don’t have to have these arguments about neither one beating a top tier guy. Title eliminator.

Personally I got Thiago in that fight. He is a stone cold killer against a guy with ZERO killer instinct. Tactician sure, but Machida has no animal in him. A. Silva is elusive and fights in and out, but when he is clearly outclassing an opponent or smells blood, he beats on them viciously until they crumble. He throws enough steam on every shot to hurt you, but doesn’t overcommit. This in my opinion, is what Mach. doesn’t do. Sit down on your shots a little more and try to hurt somebody, there’s no way he should be so afraid to get taken down that he fights the way he does. Showed good takedown D against tito, and I’m sure has plenty of Jits off his back. at least enough to defend and get stood back up. Very talented guy, but needs to get after it man. He’ll never see big money, even as a champion if he doesn’t start going for broke. There’s a big difference between the way he fights and the wreckless style that Leben and Forrest used to have. Both those guys have settled down and fight effectively now but Leben’s got power so still finishes guys. There’s no doubt in my mind Machida can do the same and look alot like the spider in doing so but he’s gotta get his out of it and let the killer loose. Stop treating this like an athletic competition to score points and pretend the guy fucked your wife

While Chuck’s performances in his last three fights have not been impressive collectively, he was a champion for several years. Most guys that have held a belt that long would get a rematch or shot at the belt again fairly soon. Chuck obviously wasn’t going to get it against Rampage after getting manhandled twice. I would at least understand why he would get his shot and wouldn’t complain.

However, if they don’t give Lyoto the shot next, they need to make a definitive #1 contender’s match with him involved so there is no question about the caliber of opponents he has faced and hopefully boost his popularity a little so fights aren’t made (or more specifically avoided) based on his marketability.

TIME IN…

Well in regards to Thiago Silva..The UfC is not marketing him right..really they are not marketing him at all.. Does anyone know who he is??? Take a step back and look at the LHW picture. Who today deserves a title shot? Who would be in a 1 number one contender fight??

Well..Page gets an automatic rematch first and fore most.

Thaigo Silva vs Machida would be a good match up to decide a number 1 contender.

Wandy is still in the mix. He can fight one of the names above to get closer to a title shot. ( some may say..oh Wandy lost to Chuck..right.. well Chuck lost to Jardine who Wandy just retired from the UFC.. and Chuck supposable is getting a title if he beats Rashad Evans. )

Chuck vs Rashad.. what does that fight decide? It shouldn’t be for the title.

Are you forgetting that if Rahsad beat Chuck that that fool will get a title shot as well? I know Chuck lost to Rampage, but alot of people seem to forget that was when he HAD the belt, most people get a rematch after winning just 1 fight after loosing the belt. See Matt Hughes, Randy Couture….I dont have a problem with Chuck getting a title shot if he beats Rashad. I mean come on….If lyoto is that good, then he will eventually get a shot and beat whoever has the belt at that time right? Giving a title shot to Chuck is not that bad…trust me it could be worse.

I don’t think that Chuck/Evans is a “true #1 contender fight”. I believe that if Chuck wins, he gets a title shot. If Rashad wins, the title picture gets even more blurry, so the UFC would book Forrest/Machida. Then they can have Evans fight Wanderlei in a #1 contender fight.

yeah, but they didn’t lose the fight after they lost the belt like Chuck did.

Cheers, have checked your right, he’s at ATT, my bad. Agree Thiagos aggressive style might be the perfect foil for Machida’s.

I like the idea of Silva vs Machida. That would answer alot of questions and make for a bonafide #1 contender.

In between the brass and ass can give Chuck another shot at the title…like it or not that is going to happen so get it over with already.

There he is. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F_@k off BNF lol (Showing middle finger) LMAO!

You’ve been nuthugging Thiago for ages? You mean since he was a little boy?

hahahaha

OH, like he couldnt handle the pressure of Sokaju, or the pressure of Penn, or what about Franklin, and we all thought he wouldnt be ableto handle the pressure of Tito. GET OUTA HERE thats what they say before all of his matches. " Dont know if he can handle the pressure that this fighters gonna bring." The qeustion is can they handle the pressure he’s going to bring. Can they stay calm in the face of almost sure defeat. Can they handle the frusteration after the first round is over, and they are all banged up, yet have not touched Machida once. Can they handle the pressure IMO is the better question.

you are talking about: Machida touched the other guy more.
i’m talking about: Thiago puts people on their back. down and out.
do you see the difference and why machida sux?

Who has Thiago fought. Houston and his weak chin? Who else. No body thats who. If he fought Machida he would end up like the rest. Going home and asking “what the f-ck just happend?”
Thiago has never fought a top ten guy so I would say he needs to still prove himself.
And Machida sucks? Tell that to everyone who has fallen to him.

Thiago Silva has boat loads of potential but he has not faced a Top 10 opponent. Lyoto has. Believe it or not, Tito was still Top 10 in the UFC and Soko was Top 10 the day he was signed.

Lyoto does not suck. I was not a fan of his until the Nakamura fight. I almost fell asleep watching him fight Senator Sam Hoger… But ever since his 3rd UFC fight, I have been a BIG fan of his.

GAURENTEEEE Machida wouldn’t KO HALF or EVEN 1/4 the guys Thiago did. And even if Thiago lost to a sokoudju or Tito, at least he’d be going down swinging, which in my opinion deserves more respect than a lack luster snoozefest “W”.

that makes no sense. So if Machida wins by decision, he deserves to move down in the rankings. But if he lost by KO, he moves up in the rankings?

Logic and Statistics must have been your worst class in school!

hey, kama kaze…just sayin’…wtf happened in that fight, huh? HAAAAhhahahahahahahahaha

MMAfan, I hear you! I dont know about everyone else, but since the nakamura fight Machida has been really exciting. Its amazing to watch him fight for 15 minutes, tagging people up, while remaining untouchable….U cant hit Machida…and if you cant hit him, u sure as hell cant beat him!

O dam he got caught: Why not you paid to watch Forrest Griffin do the same thing against Rampage….Machida does it better!

Yea I know, that sucked so bad I wanted to take my hat off my head and rip it in half, but I couldn’t rip the fabric so I just stomped on it a couple times..

ohhhhhhhh..John is spitting Flames…rapid fire. Ouch.

However, my friends said they’d still rather watch me stomping on my hat than a fight with Machida in it…

Unless my hat gets caught in the wind, and I have to chase it around to stomp on it, then it’s just as entertaining as watching a Machida fight…

Guess what? Forrest realizes that he has no Power in his strikes (besides kicks) so he will now fight just like Machida when facing power punchers….So if you dont like the way Machida fights, u arent going to enjoy watching Forrest to defend his title because he will do exactly what Machida does, stick and move, avoid getting hit, with his best and probably only chance of finishing a fight being via submission.

I dont understand how people thought that Machida vs. Ortiz was boring. I loved that fight, I thought it was very exciting and both me and my brother were at the edge of our seats while watching it!

I do understand where the Machida haters are coming form because I used to hate the guy and used to find him very boring, but since tyhe Nakamura fight he has turned up the heat and I have found his fights to be very exciting!

I’m just hoping the guy takes a few more chance’s in the future, I like fighters like Wandy that are willing to get in there and try to take the other guys head off. Machida seems content to win a decision but not win the fight, it’s like he doesn’t have any desire what-so-ever to finish a guy, he just wants to make it 3 rds and take his decision. I wanna see the guys heart tested, and as far as I’m concerned no one has done that yet.

Machida does everything Forrest does better. He lands quicker and moves away faster. Forrest actually gets hit Machida doesn’t. People don’t like Machida beceause he doesn’t get hit. Since when do you have to get punched in the face to be exciting?

I’m not getting the comparision of Machida and Forrest here. Tito is not a heavy hitter so I think Forrest would have brawled with him. Don’t see the relation of Forrest’s game plan against a guy like Chuck or Rampage which is not to get repeatedly hit in the face is like Machida’s game plan against anyone which is not to get hit all. When people bought the Forrest Rampage fight they were not expecting a decision or even a win by Forrest so it again that didn’t make sense either. Forrest cannot hit as hard as the big dogs but he’ll throw done none the less and he will take a hit to give a hit. I don’t say what Lyoto does is wrong but I know it is completely different than what Forrest does.

forrest did brawl with tito actually lol dont forget they fought tito won by a decision

Collin: THis is where I loose all respect for u! So according to you, an average James Irvin is going to beat top 5 fighters Silva, and Machida in consecutive fights? U r obviously clueless about the sport!

I am not understanding how the same people that hate Machida and his style are the Forrest Griffin Nut Huggers.

Once Forrest realized that he does not have KO power, and realized that he now has to fight against top competition, he fights totally different than his TUF and KOTC days. Stick and move and wait for the clock to run out. Did any of you see Forrest fight Hector Ramirezzzzzzzzzzzzz?

To put it simply, FORREST HAS TURNED INTO MACHIDA, but lacking the elusiveness part of it.

Comparing thier last fights…

Tito vs Machida. After the fight, Tito’s face was all busted up and he could barely stand. Machida looks like he was just done up for a Wal Mart portrait.

Forrest vs Rampage. Rampage had a little welt on the right side of his face. Forrest looked like he got mauled by a rather small lion.

VM: EXACTLY! I have been saying this since Saturday…Forrest has turned into a pooor mans Machida because everyone that he fights from here on out will have the serious KO Power…

So I dont understand how people can hate on Machida, but appreciate what Forrest did Saturday? It makes no sense, just shows peoples favoritism!

And to add to that, Forrest is no where near as skilled of a striker as Machida is.

Although, it must also be said that Forrest does engage more than Lyoto does. Machida is much more of a pure counterstriker.

First thing is Machida has not faced nearly as many aggressive fights as Forrest has. Also if Machida faces a counter striker like himself how will he do? I don’t care if the fight is boring or what not but I don’t think Machida can soundly beat a counter striker like say Chuck. Actually I don’t think Machida can even beat Forrest. Forrest has a more well rounded array of styles now, you can see he can brawl, counter strike and throw a mean leg kick. He’s evolving and learning the ins and outs of a fight. Just because he has to change his style to fight against hard hitters does not mean he’s become an elusive counter striker like Machida. That is all Machida does so what happens when he gets into a straight brawl? We really don’t know and how strong is Machida’s jaw? Do we have to wait for someone to hit it to find out. Look at it like this Machida may have a weird style of fighting but its always counter striking. Someone is bound to figure this out or just bull rush him. Stop complaining that Forrest doesn’t deserve to be where he is. Stop complaining that Machida deserves a shot over a proven champ named Chuck. Machida knows he’ll get his shot what does it matter that he has to face a top 10 competitor or a top 5 competitor before he gets the belt. It just means that he’ll have less of a chance to lose. Think about it, how many decisions can Machida win when he has to fight 5 rounds to defend a belt? Seriously Machida is a good fighter but I think he isn’t ready to be a long time champ yet. Niether is Forrest though or really anyone in the LHW division. There are to many guys with different styles, you’ll get beat sooner or later

I don’t know John, I am starting to think they will give it to Machida. We all know how long it took Rampage to defend after Hendo. He even said after the fight he will never take a layoff that long again. Machida is ready now. If it is Chuck, we have to wait 6 more months. Maybe it is wishfull thinking but, Forrest isn’t hurt and Machida needs a fight.

If they give it to Machida, I will not complain! Forrest vs. Machida wont be the fight of the year, but Machida is the most deserving and thats what it should all be based on, not who the UFC can Market the best.

I will have no problem with Rampage fighting his way back up to a title shot as long as they give the title shot to someone deserving like Machida. If they are going to give it to chuck in December, which is what they really want to do, then I will be very angry and would rather see Rampage get the rematch!

That doesn’t make any sense. Who has Machida beaten besides Soku that makes him worthy of a title shot? He couldn’t even finish an over the hill Tito who Chuck finished twice. Machida does not deserve a title shot over people who have been facing the top competition to deserve the title shot. Chuck was beating everyone down before Rampage and then he loses his belt in devastating fashion and faces a guy who he goes the distance with and loses a split decision. Give me a break I didn’t expect him to be the same following a defeat like that to Rampage. He came back and beat the guy who straight out dominated Rampage. Then he was going to face the guy Forrest beat to get his title shot. That fell through. Now he is facing an undefeated Rashad and he doesn’t deserve the title shot after that? Your telling me that beating Soku is better than beating Wandy? or beating Tito is better than beating Rashad? I know Lyoto is knocking on the door to a title shot but here’s how I see they should try to go with the LHW division.

Chuck vs Rashad
Wandy vs Rampage
Lyoto vs Thiago

All three of those fights would be for title contention
since Forrest just fought he wouldn’t be ready to fight Lyoto right away so its smart to have Lyoto and Thiago find out who the number one contende should be. Chuck is going to smoke Rashad in which case he would be the favorite going into the title fight. I think Forrest would lose to Chuck and Rampage would lose to Wandy making for a power rematch between Chuck and Wandy or another interesting match between the winner of Thiago Machida and the winner of Chuck forrest. I’d like to throw Rua in there but I’m not really sure what his condition is. All in all the UFC has the potential now to make some of the biggest fights in history and every title shot from here on out I predict will be a change or owner. The LHW champ is going to be changing for awhile.

YOur over the hill Tito Ortiz just beat Forrest and would have neaten Rashad, if he didnt grab the fence….so what does that say about the UFC light heavyweight champion? what does that say about Rashad, who chuck will get a title shot after4 beating…..U r a walking contradiction!

Get over it, we all know Chuck Liddell is getting that title shot if he beats Rashad. PLEASE PREPARE YOURSELVES for no whining, because you know it will happen. Besides, even if Chuck wins the tile back, think of the matchups…Chuck vs Wanderlei again? Rampage vs. Shogun or Wanderlei again? These are awesome! Let Machida get his shot after Chuck or whoever…Machida will get his shot, just not that soon unless they let him fight Forrest in a few months or so, but I think the UFC wants to milk the Forrest vs Chuck (student vs coach) thing. Plus Forrest is a marketable guy and like it or not is has alot to do with the matches.

I am constantly hearing about how the judging was horrible. It was never supposed to make it to the judges, right. “Rampage by brutal KO round 1”. Why is no one talking sh!t on Rampage? He looked flat footed and slow. I wanted Forrest to win and am not a huge fan of Rampage. But if I was I would be pissed at Rampage, not the judges.

Your right about Page not showing up.. but the decision was wrong. I think the scoring system they have is jacked up. Regardless if Forrest brought his best game and Page showed up with his JV game..the fight was a draw. should of went to a sudden death round.

I had it the same way.

What BNF said is dead on the money. Its rampages fault for not finishing the fight. so everyone crying about the decision should quit crying. EVERY fighter knows what can happen when it goes to a decision. Thats why Rampage acted like a True champion saying Forrest was the better fighter that night.

John: this is the comment I left for Kevin yesterday for his daily conversation piece. This is what I think should happen with contenders. I think Chuck vs. Forrest will happen although I am not a fan of it. The reality is UFC wants its and all Chuck has to do is win. UFC and their wallets will win, not us fans. Read this and let me know what you think. We are one Rashad upset away from the true July 5th rematch though. Hope for lay and pray Rampage fans.

Comment by Kimber
2008-07-08 07:11:50
Kevin: idea for your daily conversation- the current LHW division set up and how it will play out.

IMO you would have to think it will be Forrest vs. Chuck on NYE since that will sell the most tickets and thats what the UFC wants. The next part is interesting. If you put Rampage against Wandy he gets a chance to avenge his losses which he wants or you put Rampage vs Machida for a #1 contender spot which will validate Machida or be the shortcut back to a title shot for Rampage. If Forrest pulls out NYE the you have the rematch early 09 or if Chuck wins you get Chuck vs. Rampage 3. Odds are Chuck wins NYE and gets his title back making him and Dana happy then if he gets murdered again he can retire. But if Rashad wins which he might all bets are off. Either way make Rampage vs. Machida/Wandy also on NYE so the next in line has the same time to recover and get the LHW division rolling again after all this damn time off.

John, that is exactly the point!!! He was your guys favorite. You all would not be complaining this much if Rampage won that decision. Even though some of you reluctantly admitted Forrest did win. If Rampage won you all would have won your money and been happy. You absolutly would not be bringing up these issues about changing the way all UFC fights are scored. And you cannot convince me otherwise.

It was a BAD decision, or no one would be complaining, if Forest had won by brutal knockout, or sub, then no one would be complaining about it, if Forrest had rocked rampage/GnP’d him the majority of the fight to a decision then no one would be complaining. The fact is that it was a close fight, and many do not feel that Forrest won. So regardless of how YOU saw the fight, there’s enough people out there that definatley did not see it that way. I think if Rampage gets an immediate rematch it’s definatley a sign that the decision was suspect.

 Rampage did the majority of the damage in that fight, it’s lame to sit here and act like Forrest dominated him and deserves this landslide unanimous decision victory when that isn’t even close to the reality of what happened. Needless to say you even quoted up top “Rampage looked flat footed and slow” and he still rocked Forrest in just about every exchange. So if Rampage being “flat footed and slow” is the reason for Forrest winning that fight do you really believe he’s deserving of the belt?

BNF, its funny, Rampage lost now all of a sudden there needs to be changes! LMAO!!!

are you guys mad, do the words octogone control, mean anything to you, you control the battle field for 5 rounds you win.

 I’ve watched it over and over and every time I lean more on griffen side.

Page fans:

Waaah, waaah, waaah…

I had it scored a draw. Admittedly I did pick Rampage to win, but was rooting for Forrest. I had the fight scored 47-47, but knew they wouldn’t have scored it a draw, so I figured Forrest would get the Nod. I feel like the ten point must system is not the best system for scoring MMA and the criteria is somewhat off. Takedowns are scored too much even when the person on top doesn’t do anything with them. And so is moving forward as aposed to backward. Overall I still enjoy watching MMA and the judges do screw occationally. I feel no immediate changes are nessisary.

Good day!

Man are you guys even willing to consider the possibility that there is such a thing as a BAD decision??? If you honestly don’t believe the judge’s have never made a bad decision in the past then fine, but it’s a no brainer, it happens here and there. If bad decisions exist then it’s entirely possible that the scoring/decision on the page v forrest fight was a bad one.

Can’t help but agree with BNF. If the same fight played out in reverse, the Rampage fans would be making no noise about how the system needs to be changed or any immediate rematches.

Wrong, if they would have given the decision to Rampage, I would be happy to have won my bet, but as a fan I would stil be pissed about the quality of the fight. I waited forever to see that fight and regardless of who won the fight we deserved a better fight then that.

Odamnhegotcaught: made a great point, u guys act like judges are always right. If Ram,page would have won, I would have still called BS because the fight was clearly a draw!

AS for the rule changes, WTF r u talking about, I have been making the same p[osts abiout rules needed to bechanged since I started blogging on this site…check the archives!

Kimber: u r right,….your whole scenariop is accurate. Hopeflly Rashad lays n prays his way to a win, to throw a monkey wresnch in teh Chuck vs. Forrest fight!

JOHN: if you think fights should be based on damage, then you cant count Chuck’s loss to Jardine and Chuck should have won because did you see Jardine’s face/head/mouth after that fight? He was busted up…looked alot worse than Chuck’s pink side to me.

Chad did u see Chucks freaking legs, ribs and Back? He had welts all over his body from Jardine’s Kicks….Damage can be done to many other places besides the face..
u cant sit hear and honestly state that Chuck did more damage to Jardine, if you really feel that way, please just dont ever waste my time again by addressing me!

WOW! John freeking owned you Chasx23. Totally owned you. Plus don’t forget the right hand Jardine dropped Chuck with. And also some guys just cut more then others. Look at Forrest, he cuts in eery fight, does that mean he lost them all?

I dont want to see that…I want to see Forrest vs. Rampage with a clear cut decision…I already know what will happen when Rampage faces Chuck, I want to know what would go down if both Rampage and Forrest show up to fight…. Forrest couldnt even finish the champ and he looked about 50% of what he is capable of! GTFO here!

Do you think Forrest should do the same thing?

Depending on the situation, I mean seriously against Rampage, probably not the best idea, he probably did the best thing he could have, but Lyoto vs Tito?? Since when is Tito known as a knockout artist? He couldn’t stay in the pocket for one or two exchanges with Ortiz? Granted that Tito may have thrown 3-4 punch’s at most and then went straight for the takedown but it’s not like Machida wasn’t defending it well enough. He could have tried to put Tito away sooner than the end of rd 3.

Just as a side note, this guy just doesn’t take chance’s I really do think the Forrest comparison is bad, cause Forrest still gets in there and mix’s it up, he’s the kind of guy that will take a hit to give one, thats not Machida. He plays it safe every second of every fight, there’s no excitement, there’s no “what if” factor, he never lets all hang out, he never goes in for the kill. You know exactly what he’s going to do, be elusive, be the first to the take down for top control and outscore his opponent. It’s just in my eye’s he’s the old cliche, “fighting to not lose, not fighting to win”

forrest used to say he makes his gameplan based on geting hit and if they can KO him..

rampage dropped him so he did some elusive fighting, machida just runs like a school girl.. idk what would be more boring

machida vs rashad evans
machida vs chuck
machida vs forrest

haha rashad shouldn’t get a shot either he’s less exciting then machida cuz at least machida lands a shot or 2 a round and not lays on a dude dry humping him

i also think when irvin upsets anderson he fights thiago in a rematch to be inline for a shot which really sounds good

Aight Josh.. now I get you bro.

lol, what kind of fan am I? Cause the entire undertone in all of your writing is condescending/arrogant and that definatley lets me know what kind of fan YOU are.

The Black House, scary camp!