If Rampage beat Forrest, I would not want Chuck to get a shot at the title on NYE. However, now that Forrest has the gold, it is an excellent matchup that the UFC can promote like no other. TUF winner becomes champion and now must fight his coach who it the legend of the division…

Forrest strikes from the outside. Chuck is a counterpuncher. How would this fight go? Again (same as Griffin/Rampage), I would say Chuck by KO or Forrest by decision. Can’t see it any other way.

Yeah, Forrest wont be a champion tat can finish too many fights especially against the top 5 of the division.

like u said, chuck via KO, or Forrest via submission are the only 2 possible outcomes

Forrest will fight it very similar to the way Jardine did. Leg kicks from the outside and pick his spots. Probably not a very exciting fight but Forrest will win by decision.

Yeah, I put in other thread, or perhaps lower in this thread this morning, that Jardine wrote the blue print on how to beat Liddell = strike from the outside and really utilize the leg kicks. Sound familiar? (Forrest/Rampage)

And JOHN, did you mean to say Forrest by submission or were you agreeing Forrest by decision.?

Forrest by decision! I dont think he can submit to many top fighters….He probably wont take chuck down….and just elect to do what Jadine did and kick him from the outside (like u said). I cant see Forrest submitting Machida…He wont submit Rampage because like we saw saturday, rampage will just slam his way out of submissions…. Forrest is going to have to out work opponents and win by decision, while still protecting his chin.

If he is going to win by decisions, then I want to see dominating decision wins, not that crap we saw saturday night!

I dont’ think Shad will be able to Lay n Pray on Liddell. Chuck has a world class sprawl and an uncanny ablility to stand right back up after gettin taken down. Unless its Rampage on top or the 1st fight against Randy…

All along since the fight was announced I was rooting for Evans in this fight, but suddenly I find myself rooting for ol Chucky

Nah man, thats sounds just like me though, im about to go burn a bowl out of some blown glass!! I only post on here and im the original Adam G!

He couldnt even finish Tito. He wont beat Chuck

Who cares if he couldn’t finish tito, He has a different style then chuck, Evens is going to beat chucks ass, and Griffin will remain the champ for a while. War Griffin.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I see Chuck beating Evans and then lose to Forrest. Keith Jardine wrote the blue print on how to beat Liddell and it is by staying on the outside and throwing alot of leg kicks. Sound familiar?

yeah Mike, if Chuck gets back in the groove of being just a counter puncher with a sprawl…in his last fight against Wand, he was a more well rounded striker and looked to have a game plan, like when he was a hungry contender…i think Chuck knows he’s on his last hoorah, so we may see the best, most well rounded Chuck ever, or an old man with same old gameplan…either way he gets past Rashad..Forrest and anyone else is a different story. There are alot of 205 fights to be excited about.

Chase, Evans does have a different style than Chuck. The problem for him is, he is the SPITTING image of Tito (hence the draw). We all know Chuck doesn’t have trouble with that style.

Phil: I completely Agree. AS a HUGE Rampage fan, I feel that he jipped us out of what could have been a truly great fight by simply not showing up. Props to Forrest, he fought the best fight that he possibly could but I question what kind of champion he will be. Can he defend the title or will he be a 1 pump chump? If he can defend his title, does he have the ability to finish any of the top 5 fighters?

Rumor that I have been reading is that the UFC is trying to book a quick rematch for Rampage, but it depends on if Rampage’s leg is injured or if it is just sore. If thats the case it will mean that Dana white isnt convinced with the judges decision either.

Man the whole crowd boo’d forrest after that fight, and I was watching it with 7 ppl none of which saw him winning that fight. IMO the general consensus seems to be that it was a bad decision, that it should have been a draw or a much closer fight. And the comment by JV that “Rampage looked like he was 85% because of Forrest” is BS, at 100% Rampage is better all around, except maybe in submissions, thats about it. I think a rematch would yield a vastly different outcome.

So john your classifying Page as what you think forest might be then, He only had 1 defence agianst Hendo, and he didn’t finish the fight. I don’t think forest fought the best he possibly could either, No one gives him credit, It’s rediculous.

John: I really..really..really hope so. Cuz of all this doubt and questions some of us have will need to be answered. Forrest wasn’t sure he won.. how do you become or begin a reign as a Champ..not being sure. if Forrest not even beating Page in a fashionable way..but if Forrest can even go the distance and in a completly dominate way..win a decision I will no longer question his status as UFC LHW Champ..if Page’s knee is not hurt they should fight within 90 days and settle it.

Chase: the only difference is between Page and Forrest thus far in regards to the belt is.. Page won in without any doubt in anyone’s mind. Dan Henderson is a tuf mofo..who outside of Anderson Silva has not been tapped out or Knocked out in his MMA career..in his fight with Page..Page dominated him in a way we all were not surprised with the out come.. now with Forrest.. he has my props..but he did not convince me he won that fight/ or that he is the LHW Champ..I still have not digested it. I would of wanted to see a finish from either fighter..that will leave no questions..but the reality is..what it is..Forrest is now the LHW Champ.. but if he is to rematch Page in his next fight..which Page deserves..I reallt don’t thin khe will retain his title.. I maybe wrong..but that is what I feel.

Well not every fight can be won in desistating fasion, I think that page does deserve a quick rematch also, since we wasn’t destroyed. And I think that forrest needs to comeup with a new GP also becuase Page knows it now.

Forrest will need to impose that same game plan. Why?? Cuz that is the only one that would work in defeating Page. Unless he can take Page down and GnP him..but I ?? that cuz in the 2nd round he had him mounted for a good piece of time and still could not inflict damage on Page. Forrest can not and will not sit in the pocket and trade blows with Page.. that is suicide. What else can Forrest do?? He had a great game plan to excute whathe needed to do. If they were to fight again.. I see him trying to do same thing.. page will need to take John’s advice and ATTACK!!! forrest..bully him..not sit wait to counter and make ita boxing match..Page will make it a brawl..cut off Forrest’s angles..cut the octagon in half.. make it small ass cage for Forrest..which I thought he would doen the first time.. let’s see what happens next time.

O damn he got caught, Rampage was healthy right? Rampage had no injuries right? So if he fought anything less than 100% its because of his opponent. I’ll give you an example, Anderson/Hendo is Hendo that weak? Hendo didnt look good because of his opponent right? So to say Forrest had nothing to do with Rampage looking 85% is ridiculous.

Jv, were on the same side here, But not with Benn and Gsp haha.

JV: I can’t really put those 2 senarios together. Henderson in his MW title match..he had the style most people would think that could Anderson..but in the 2nd round..he got caught up in Silva’s world and ate a knee..which then made him weak to defend Silva’s rear naked choke.

People that seen Page fight..even in his losses..knows he did not show up to fight on July 5th..who’s fault is that?? only Page’s..But out side the 2nd round leg kick damage..and the mount that Forrest had..Forrest did not beat Page in a lop sided decision..no way.

My only arguement is..to become a Champ..you have to beat the Champ..I didn’t see Forrest beat Page on July 5th I saw Page short change himself. They should of fought a sudden death round or call it a draw..cuz that fought was to F’n close to call..but when I heardthe decision..I was like..No way.

He didn’t beat him Seriously, But he did beat him overall more then page did to him.

I’ll agree to disagree with you Chaase. That fightwas to close to call my score cards..RD1 Page RD2 Forrest RD3 Page RD4 Page RD5 Forrest ( but real close ) I have a hard time accepting that Forret beat Page " overrall ".. I saw it as a draw..I couldnt clearly make an arugment for Page as I couldn’t for Forrest.. but Forrest is awarded a uninanmos decision?? No way. The UFC had to do that..so Forrest has more cred with his belt.

I see round 1 as forest, the only thing page had was that knockdown, Forrest was outworking him the whole round besides that, and I don’t see the knockdown as page to take the round.

We’ll agree to disagree friend.

PhilQNY, check this link out. Stagger Lee posted it. It shows the overall punch & kick stats. It show Forrest landing more in rounds 1,2,3,5 so you give round 1 back to Rampage for dropping Forrest and round 4. But Forrest had the 10-8 and took rounds 3 & 5. Forget what the link says about the outcome, just look at the punch & kick stats. Also Forrest went for a few submissions.

http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Griffin-Rampage.html

JV: thx..I checked that out yesterday.. I thought it was pretty cool. Now this is the " THING ".. How much damage did the punches/kicks do? I just took another look at hte 1st round..cuz Chase gave it to forrest.. now when I judge a round.. I aske myself " who would of I rather been ".. in RD1 I would of rather been Page. Why Cuz he did more damage to Forrest. 1. he buckled Forrest legs. 2. He Knock him down. People will say.. well Forrest was more active.. but how much damage did Forrest do in RD1.. chk it out.

http://www.myvideofight.com/video/ufc/ufc-86-quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin/index-2.html

Now in RD2 I would of rather been Forrest for the reasons I stated above. RD 3 and 4 were close when seeing it on Saturday night..but I gave it Page.. RD5 close I give to Forrest. Now how does Forrest win a lopsided decision???

i guess it just matters who people favor more to give those rounds to, I didn’t see that kockdown doing to much damage to forest or it be enuff to give it to page, cuase overall thats the onlyhting page did. I think we all agree that there should be a rematch though, I want page to come sluggin at Griffin cuase Griffin will slug back if forced to and it will be a much better fight. Griffin is wierd becuase he’s big so I don’t know why he doesn’t have knockout power.

The only card that was a bit generous was the 49-46 one. I just think your still in shock cause no one expected Forrest to win. It happened to me with the Chuck/Rampage fight I was sick with how it happened.

JV: but in Chuck/Page we had the pride fight in 2003.. were Page curicfied Chuck in as a guideline to their rematch. Now I am ..still in shock over ufc86. 1.I’m disgusted with the card as a whole. 2. I’m shocked Page lost.. especiallt the way he did. I’m being bias.. I can admit that.. I like Forrest.. he deserves what he has today. He put his ass on the line and earned it..I was not sold on the decision. For Pageto lose his title I would of rather seen him get KTFO.. or tapped out.

Phil: I would jump in the argument, but you said everything I would have said. THe rematch needs to happen. I did not think Forrest deserves to have the title right now, because it was a terrible decision…Draw at worst!

all Rampage would have to do is bully Forrest and his game plan would be dismantled. Cant throw to many kicks when u r being backed down!

To compare Rampage’s decision win over Hendo, with how Forrest won his title is a joke. Hendo was DOMINATED by rampage and prior to the he KO his 1st 2 opponents, winning the title via KO. If you are going to win the title by decision, it has to be a dominating 1 like, Rampage over Hendo, or Machida over Tito…Those are just my thoughts. Sooner or later the rematch will happen, so we will see what is up!