ESPY Awards 2008: Georges St. Pierre nominated for 'Best Fighter'

I GOT A RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks JRV. You are probably the one that asked in the Forrest/Machida thread earlier. I never went back to check…

The rankings arent as bad as I thought they would be. I posted a link to view the Wama title belt under the Forrest scared of machida thread.

Have no fear, Almeida will be up there after this weekend.

Sheilds looks like a Dean Lister’s little brother. Sheilds is a MOster, #3 I dont know, he could be, but I wouuld have to see him fight some top UFC welterweights to know for sure where he belongs.

I really dont think Forrest should be #4. He only has 1 relevant win in his entire UFC career (Shogun) and that win should have an asterix next to it in my book. Everytime Forrest has been in a relevant uFC fight he has lost: TIto, Jardine….I dunno but I dont think 1 good win should get you into the top 5 of the best division in all of mma! Sorry!

Its a shame because I was a HUGE forrest Griffin fan until everyone started over rating him…now, not so much!

Koschek is in no way a top 4 welterweight world wide, and his striking is very over rated, all he does is throw those wild haymaker overhand punches….His game is weak and its going to be LIghts out for Kos on Saturday!

What, Koscheck is a brown belt in BJJ and he out boxed Deigo Sanchez and Dustin Hanzelette, both of whom looked impressive last week. As for Kos not being a legitimate top five welterweight, I say get out of town. His only losses in the UFC have come against Georges St. Pierre (can anybody balme him for losing?) and a fluke knee which lead to a choke against Drew Ficket. He holds wins over Deigo Sanchez, former champ Dave Menne, and the allways tough veterine Pete Spratt. Sound like a top five welterweight to me. As for Lytle, This is his third and final chance to get a title shot. The first came against Matt Serra in the TUF 4 finale where he lost a less then impressive split decision which was razor thin, the next oppertunity came against Matt Hugh where he was simply physically overwelmed. Now he has one last shot against Kos. I really like Chris Lytle, but I think Koscheck has all the tools to win this fight.

Ya, Kos will win for sure,and Cote is going to win also.

WOW, Keith Jardine never even entered my mind. He really needs to find himself a personality because he is just sooooo forgettable exept for his fights against Alexander and Wanderlei, where he just so happened to suffer from KO’s from Hell.

You guys could be right. But don’t forget how he embarrased the Iceman and the ever so overrated Forrest Griffin. Well I think I just said it myself! Iceman’s too old, and Forrest’s just over-hyped. He shouldn’t be that high in the rankings!

DonnyG; I am the biggest Jacre fan on this site, and I will answer your question with a: Not Yet! Once he wins the DReam Middleweight grand prix, which he will, he will be added to the list.

Eddie Alverez will be added as well, sooner then later!

Bingo!!!

You make it sound good, but the truth is he has 3 title defences. Not exactly braking any UFC records yet is he. If you look at their whole fight carreer records, GSP’s is the best. He fought nothing but the best and avenged his only 2 losses in pure anialation. GSP deserves it. Lastly I think GSP has been more dominant throughout the fight against his opponents. I know Silva has turned it up at the end and won in dominant fashion, but there were times he was losing (Hendo winning the 1st round). The only thing Silva has over GSP, is he hasn’t had a bad night (YET), in the UFC.

Not true. GSP was obligated to fight Serra both times. Hughes was in his prime and had just smashed BJ Penn until GSP ran over him – then Hughes beat Lytle, and then GSP ran over him again. Koscheck is a Top 5 WW who GSP dominated. Henderson is a great win, but Henderson has more good wins at 205 than 185. At 185 Hendo recently lost to Misaki.

Obligated or not, what is the difference?

Also, he just fought Hughes 7 months ago.

So Serra and Hendo are on the same level now? Plus Anderson beat Rich Franklin TWICE and he is #2 ranked MW on WAMMA. And Nate Marquardt who is ranked.

This is not an argument that you can win, but unfortunately, I’m done posting for the day (out of work)

LOL at you. Matt Hughes and Koscheck are Top 5 WWs, and Serra was the UFC champ. It’s not even arguable that GSP was beaten the best competition of any UFC fighter. Just look up his opponents and their win %, and the number of champions he’s beaten. If destroying Matt Hughes 2x doesn’t count for much, then beating Rich Franklin 2x counts for even less. Good luck with that line of reasoning.

I am still waiting for him to successfully defend his title.

Anderson’s reign has been much more impressive. He destroyed Rich Franklin twice, who was the best middleweight champion the UFC had ever had to that point, and then he finished Henderson, the Pride Champion, who has only been submitted twice prior to that, by the Nogueira twins.

I am a big gSP fan, but nothing equals the terror that Silva has brought onto the UFC’s middleweight division.
Anderson is like a 4 or 5 time defending uFC champion. Gsp has never defended the title!

I got to go with Silva!

Defend the title or not, GSP has still run through the division. Hughes (2), Kos, Serra, Sherk, BJ, Trigg, Mayhem, Heiron, etc. and soon to be Fitch.. That’s a long list of top tier fighters, and aside from Hughes, Penn and Matt “The Horse Shoe” Serra, none of them have even made it competitive. Anderson is a bad dude, but I still think GSP is just as deserving of this award, I just wouldn’t say it to Silva’s face..

Gotta go w/ john and VM on this one. Silva’s accomplishments are much more impressive.

GSP is still a badass, though.

Try 3 defences John. VM, you can’t have it both ways. You say Hughes is washed up and then you say Hendo is a bigger acomplishment. Have you even concidered that a 37 year old Hendo ain’t what he used to be. He LOST his last 2 fights also. Also I think it’s funny that you guys give more credit for beating Franklin twice, than beating Hughes twice. Franklin has like what, 2 title defences and Hughes has 9. Hughes has proved WAAAAY more than Franklin. The MW division is weak. Franklin would still be destroying guys if it wasn’t for Silva.

I’ll go with Silva, hands down. The only guy to spoil it for him was Ryo Chonan. Other than that, the Spider has just breezed through the UFC fighters. And if GSP and the Spider were to face each other, then GSP should better pray hard to his gods because Anderson will sacrilegiously destroy GSP!

If you only look at numbers, GSP may be a better choice for the award. His record only has 2 losses, and both have been avenged. They are comparing him to boxers, and in boxing people act like you suck once you lose a fight.

If you look at numbers, Miguel Torres or Faber should be nominated.

If you’re talking about numbers, my man Thiago Silva and Machida should also be nominated! Though they’re just not as mainstream as GSP.

I agree with your opinion to a certain extent.

However, I can tell you that boxers do not have oversized pillows on their hands.

I hope you are not implying that boxing is somewhat soft…

you are talking american rules here. mma is anything goes bar eye gouging/biting/fish hooking. just cause the americans have more rules, does not mean “mma” has more rules.

also, please let someone punch you with one of those “oversized pillows” and then say it again.

I being sarcastic with the mention " over sized pillows "..however if you compare them to official MMA gloves..they can looked at as small pillows. I’ve been hit by boxing gloves and MMA gloves..i got to say..I rather get hit by the boxing gloves hands down.

If you’ve happened to watch this documentary on the NAtional Geographic Channel called Fight Masters, they have this show wherein they featured nothin’ but MMA. The difference in force between boxing gloves and MMA gloves was very very little. The big difference is when you get hit by a bare knuckle fist.

They measures Bas Rutten’s punches in all 3 categories[boxing gloves, MMA gloves, abd the bare fist] and the force of the punching glove and the MMA glove were virtually the same, even if the difference in padding between the MMA and boxing glove were a lot of centimeters apart.

So the myth that “over-sized pillows” for boxing gloves would give you considerably less damage than MMA gloves has just been busted!

yeah, it wouldn’t surprise me.

I expect he will win it too, especially after the hype for the Hatton fight.

I think that if the UFC candidate doesn’t win the ESPY, then it will go to Kelly The Ghost Pavlik.

Pavlik drugged up Jermaine Talyor.. it was one of the very few boxing matches I saw and really enjoyed. If it comes down a boxing fighter..I’ll vote for the Ghost.

Yeah, i am a fan of the Ghost for sure, and I havent enjoyed to many other boxing matches lately!

I’m with Dave on this one, it’s not that I dislike Silva but there are a lot of posts on this site that mention him regardless of the topic. It makes it difficult to discuss Silvas striking ablility when in the post above the guy is talking about how Silva build the log house he was born in… and we all know that only Chuck Noris can do that.

LMAO, no one can touch chuck, they’d burn!

Dave, why would it be good for silva to loose? he doesn’t need to be brought down to earth, he already lost in the past and he doesn’t think he’s invincible. he’ll loose one day again, just not anytime soon (unless he goes against chuck norris LOL).

I’m a big James Irvin fan after seeing the knee that ko’d Terry Martin. I hope to see him KO Silva!

How’d you like the first two rounds of that fight?

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I am still waiting to see Anderson Silva take a BIG punch in the UFC. Irvin can definitely hit hard, its just a matter of can he “touch” Silva.

also, the spider has never been KO’ed!

but there is a difference dave, ‘your’ opinion suggests we should censor mentioning other fighters in different threads, while ‘our’ opinion is that no censuring should occur.

I’d also like to add Penn and GSP… Possibly that would keep everyone from trying to set up these stupid “super” fights between weight classes.

MMA has never seen a fighter like Anderson Silva eve!!..I hope he rains supreme longer then Rampage’s dynasty. You have your opinion..I’ll agree to disagree with you. I was totally shocked to hear..you were a fan of his..but because we give the man his props..you want him to lose. He isn’t even a cocky dude. whatever man. The only fighter that will be dreaming on UFN july19th card..is Irvin. Anderson will drug him up at 205. Like WOAH!!!

I’d also like to add Penn and GSP to this list. Hopefully that would stop the “super” fight fans who don’t care about weight classes and just want to see a three way with Silva, Penn and GSP; winner take all…

The “cockyness” is not on the part of the fighter, Silva seems like a great guy, it’s the bloggers who constantly bring Silva into every from of communication.

PhilQNY, dave is not and never was a fan of the spider, he’s a poser. no fan would become non-fans just because they hear about them constantly in MMA forums, that just doesn’t happen.

Linx: I know man..but this thread..in a way ticks me off a bit..especially with such comments. ( breathe )

I hear you man, me too!

Anderson Silva is the baddest man walking the planet (period).

Truth!!!

I will agree. Only because Fedor is not Human!

How can this dude Dave hate on Anderson Silva? He is the most proffessional and Humble champion EVER! Can u imagine if Silva had a personality like Matt Hughes? he would be the biggest a-hole EVER!

I think I will cry the day I see Silva loose. He is just too great for the sport!

Rampage should be nominated. He is only the 1st ever Unified Pride/UFC champion!

Silva is the only other Unified chAMPION. tHAT MEANS A LOT IN MY BOOK!