about time that this card got some money spent on marketing

Maybe its too little too late?

I don’t know about this shit… I just cant see them doing enough buys at this point to comp the cost of this card, let alone make a profit..

I’m truly mixed on this card! I think the main event is something that could go down as one of the best fights ever, and will be a true test for both fighters. While timmy has been fighting top competition (even while injured), Fedor has been “giving back to the japanese” fans and collecting large pay checks fighting cans. I for one have to admit am very sceptical as to the reasons Fedor hasn’t fought top competition in years!
As far as the rest of the card goes, yes there are some big names, bbut is there any doubt to who will win these match ups? Babalu will win, Arlovski will win and Barnett will win. Vitor also will win. The only thing that I am looking forward to is what happens after the main event.
1. If Fedor wins, he’ll fight Randy…but I personally would rather see him fight Arlovski.
2. If timmy wins, he’ll want a rematch with Randy, and quite frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if this fight happens in the UFC. Tim left the UFC on good terms, and it was highly publicized that fedor wanted a “not have to fight tim” clause in his UFC contract. Watch Tim (IF he can pull off a victory), take that wamma belt back to the UFC!

thats ashamed because its a damn good card

The vast majority of people that see that billboard will have no idea what the hell it is.

hey John and VM, how are you guys liking my “morning conversations?” I’m trying to pick one topic that may not be talked about much, and throw it out there. And John, I recommended you to mania as a dream/japanese writer, you seem to have a love and good grasp on the japanese fighters as well as fans!

I love it. It’s about time. I would like to see billboards coming and going ffrom the city *midtown tunnel, holland, 59th street bridge. I want to see TV commercials now that I have cable set up.

How many of you guys are going to order this show?

Personally i am going to watch ufn 14 who is offering the best pound for pound fighter for free along with a bunch of up and coming talent while affliction is filled with a bunch of former ufc fighters.

Oh yeah good idea this to put a billboard on broadway where people go to see plays lol oh and in a city that won’t sanction mma and people there still call it human cock fighting. And put yourself in the shoes of most of the people who will see this sign, what do you think they’ll think it could be? Theres no clear indication what it is, the sign is boring with a load of guys heads on, its not memorable, people will forget all about it 3 seconds after seeing it, they’ll probably think its boxing, and boxing with no body they’ve heard of lol so they won’t have any interest in it.

“You know it’s a big show when you have a billboard on Broadway.” Ok yeah lets see how many ppv buys you get, most people don’t know who fedor is and hate tim sylvia so i don’t think you’ll be making a profit.

The main event is good yes, the rest of the card is ok a little overhyped because all the fights are lobsided.

I think this is the best card of the year so far in all MMA – mostly because it is Fedor’s first test in a while. He has caught a lot of sh!t lately, but only a year or so ago everyone agreed he was the best fighter in all MMA – people even said he was the best P4P fighter as a heavyweight. If he wins in convincing fashion – I personally think at some point he will win via arm bar – he is right back at the tip of mma fans tounges (without the venom spit hopefully). Also, VITOR! Man I hope this guy can get past the rough couple years he has had. This fight should go a long way to determining where he is. Kevin, you and I disagree a lot on here but you are probably right that this will not sell well – mainly because of late marketing and the bs move the UFC pulled.

This is actually a pretty good card for a 1st event put on by Affliction… however, it is totally under marketed as of now. I imagine the PPV’s will be extremely low. Fans will be watching the FREE UFC.

I will be buying this PPV and DVRing Spike show.

I’m starting to think, maybe its just so Affliction can get there product out there? Maybe Affliction is using MMA to sell more of there product. So in the long run there MMA just helps the sell of there clothing line. And who cares if there MMA goes bad, there product will be more known. Look at Titos punishment athletics, it wouldnt be nowhere near what it is if it wasnt for the UFC.

the billboard in NYC and any commercial they have should say nothing more than “it features fedor, the man who absolutely dominated the ufc heavyweight champ that dana white is so proud of, not once, but twice!!!” a casual ufc/mma fan couldn’t ignore that remark

I understand that it is a business move, and a really good one to, I just think it is a bs move. The UFC had nothing planned at all, saw the hype, and is putting what I think is now their # 1 draw in a virtually meaningless fight. Again, I understand its business, but Dana would stutter worse than the guy on Billy Madison when asked to explain business ethics. I just think it would be sad if putting Anderson up against an at best top 15 lhw backfires and Silva loses some of the unbeatable aura that is around him now. Im not loyal to the UFC, I am loyal to MMA. Obviously the UFC is the best product, but I loved having Pride provide two class orgs to chose from. Affliction looked as if they could fill that void, Dream possibly – but the Zuffa org is going to try to pull a Microsoft style monopoly and I personally think it is bs. I think from an MMA fans perspective it helps to have those two powerful orgs because it allows more acces to top notch fighters (INSERT CURSE WORDS TO TUF DELAYING CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HERE) I understand many of you won’t agree, but my thinking is long term, not just based on the 19th show.

actually jim no one but us will have an understanding of the gravity of this event. we are the most knowledgable mma fans in the universe after all.

oh yeah

WAR GRIFFIN!!!

fedor by armbar 1:45 of round 1.

For all you Timmy bashers and all you Fedor nut lickers, which is most of you, I hope Timmy beats the hell outa Fedor. As usual nobody gives ole Timmy any credit. Fedor willnot be able take him down and Tim is going to use his reach and and get the decision. Boring or not, that is how I think it’s gonna go down

I can’t wait for this card to suck balls. Then all you “hardcore fans” can make excuses for all these boring ass fighters. NO WAY that Fedor takes Tim down. Tim via 2nd round ko. Fedor, despite what you Dana Haters may think, hasn’t had a tough opponent in YEARS. F Coleman. Sorry Donald. Looks like this make more money quick investment isn’t going to pan out. Hopefully this sucks so bad dollars wise to push Fedor to the UFC. Where he gets exposed. Chuck vs Fedor. Randy who? F aa, burnout-burnett, Big Tim, Rothwell, Bubba Loo and especially, Mega Death. Mega Death will be the theme for this garbage. Anderson for Free all the way. F dvring that. Silva via 1st round ko.

efisher: business ethics? Affliction threw ethics to the wind first.

People are clueless if they think this is the best card ever. You have one fight that pits two top ten guys. One Fight!

Barnett Vs Rizzo is ok at best. Barnett a top tier talent definitely to top 20 p4p Vs Rizzo cmon ok at best!
Lindland Vs scrub. He is not a complete can but not even top 30
Arlovsky Vs Rothwell although very good and Im just as excited about this as any fight on the card again, Rothwell is not top 10 but he is close.
Sobral Vs Whitehead. ahh if Whitehead was in the UFC people would be saying LOL I thought the UFC was supposed to be the best fighters, Whitehead is junk.

The undercard is as good as any ever! Im very excited about Belfort at 185 Vs Martin!

UFC in May was just as good accross the board, maybe better.

And this stuff still isn’t legal in New York. So whoop-dee-doo.

I’m not going to bash Tim, but Fedor will be able to take him down pretty much at will. Tim IS a good fighter, but once on the ground, (which will be quick) look for a devastating arm bar. Probably in the second round because the first they will test the waters. Just a bad matchup for Tim.

minotauro nogueiro is the only heavyweight the ufc has that is as good as fedor, arlovski, barnett, aleks e., and yes include timmy. since randy isn’t in the ufc anymore the only hw the ufc has that could beat ole tim was minotauro and maybe, just maybe mir, but mir couldn’t beat arlovski or barnett, not too even mention fedor.
 
Fedor vs. #1 ufc hw
barnett vs. #2 ufc hw
arlovski vs. #3 ufc hw
timmy vs. #4 ufc hw
alexander e. vs. #5 ufc hw

the ufc would go 0-5

Affliction won’t make it. They already had their have minutes of fame with those cheesy-ass shirts(which if yiu still wear by the way, you deserve to be punched in the face. UFC is king and always will be.

skeletonkey must be some sort of world beating tough guy or something. damn, probably a kimbo slice of sorts. the baddest ass dude in goodyear, AZ. watch out goodyear, nobody mess with skeletonkey, he’s tough!!

It is very difficult to catch Fedor, Nogueira couldn’t do it 3 times. Randy Couture might have a 5% chance if he can get him cut or maybe go thru 5 rounds of torturing(needs tremendous stamina from 32yo and a 46 yo) and get a decision like Rampage vs Griffin. Or the Russian Mafia suddenly kidnapped Fedor’s wife and daughter and threaten him to take a fall becas the odds is going to be high and there is money to be made??
Other than that, I think “The Natural” needs to be a bit supernatural and perform some sort of miracle for the victory.
Even if Fedor was victorious, I think some people would still deny by saying the age difference and other excuses. Truth is, He is the best I have seen and people should look at the fighter not where he is from or whether he got some fat padding on him or not. The guy is so tough even other pro fighters attend his master class around Europe to learn MMA and Sambo. Thats commitment and love for the sport for yah. One more thing Fedor dominates his weight class in any organization he is in, so other HW will move weight class or go to other organization to get a championship belt on their waist. They know they got no chance of the belt if Fedor is there. Now he just signed with Affliction in the US and everyone wants to fight the best but after a while, you’ll see. THe Maniac got it bad and soon many HW fighters will feel the same like Tim Silvia. Shameful to lost 6 months of training in just 36 seconds.