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I get it… it’s the personality thing… The only thing that makes me hate a fighter is his performance in the cage and wether or not he gives it 100%.
Lutter=dick=not making weight and then gassing
CB=dick=tapping=then not admitting it
Babalu=dick=holding on the choke after the ref stopped it. but I can see why you dislike Hughes.
Thanks.

Good shit..DJ.

Matt Serra’s Matt Hughes impression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJEXtZRK3I&NR=1

You guys were probably riding his wagon when he was dominating everybody. Now just cause hes past his prime theres hate? After being the most dominant WW ever, I think he has the right to say “I love it” And Serra should accomplish atleast half of what Hughes has done before he should have the right to talk.

I pesonally did not like him from jumpstreet. His personna..I respect his accomplishments. I never considered him to be the most dominant WW champ ever..or just UFC champ. He is a a UFC hall of famer..without a doubt. But he comes across like a dick. tUF2 tUf4 are good examples of his personality.

Phil, I agree with you on his personality. But if you don’t consider him as the most dominant WW ever, then who is?

Meh, he’s a jerk but his pre-fight interview for GSP vs Hughes 1 was funny as hell. “I’m gonna win cause who’s gonna lose a street fight to a french canadian” LMAO!

Well maybe you guys are confusing (jerk) with (confidence or cockyness) I’ll give you guys examples:

Rampage “I’m gona whoop his a$$”
Chuck “I’m gona knock him out”
Penn “Sherk your dead”
GSP “I’m a different fighter, I’ll show him in the fight”

Hell even Anderson has got alittle cocky “He said the real champ was Franklin not Hendo and that he wasnt suprised to submitt Hendo”

When a fighter is dominant, then he should have the right to be cocky right?

The only one that should be walking around like he owns the place is the guy who owns the place. A fighter who loses a match is not a loser… most everyone on the other thread paid respect to Tanner and his accomplishments over the years even though he lost to Grove and is probably finished in MMA. My beef with Hughes is he should treat others how he expects to be treated. I respect Hughes’ accomplishments in MMA but I have little respect for him as a man. When he starts to act like one I’ll be the first to say so. Being confident in your own abilities is one thing, laughing at someone else is quite another.

To an extent achievement allows for a certain level of confidence. I have a hard time with Hughes. On one hand he can be a complete jackass. But on the other hand, he can be a pretty classy guy. I respect Hughes a lot more after his last two losses. He didn’t make excuses and gave props to GSP and Alves. He didn’t complain when Alves missed weight and Hughes has always been willing to take fights on short notice. Hughes has been a professional and is always ready to fight.

I agree RealDrew, Hughes prepared for Serra and then accepted a fight with GSP that takes balls. Joe Riggs being a way bigger guy didnt make weight either and Hughes still took the fight.

DJ, you dont respect Hughes as a man cause he said “I love it” Wasnt that because Hughes and Serra wanted to fight so Serra winning the title was even better for Hughes. That is a pretty lame excuse on your part. Because Serra go’s around saying Hughes is a jacka$$ it makes it so? What does that say about Serra telling anybody who will listen how much he hates Hughes. When Serra hasnt even done half as much as Hughes.

Haze: Most dominant WW ever?? I have not seen him yet. No1 as of yet. He was a successfull Champ. He defended his title.. but can’t tagg him as the most dominant ever.. To me as of today the most dominant Champ regardless of weight class “ever”..IMO is Anderson Silva. Silva is by far already in the UFC hall of fame.

JV: The beef Serra has with Hughes..is his beef. In the fight world no every1 acts like Mark Kerr..fighter’s are going to have problems..and issues with each other..it’s the nature of the game. I don’t like Hughes personality cuz Serra talks smack about him..it’s just how I view Hughes..How he treated Dan after his loss to Ben Saunders..how he beat the crap out of his guys on the show..Him handling out bibles..and comparing himself to the " Queen " in the story that told people to read.. Like are you Serious. Look at Serra and his team on that show. They all liked Serra. Matt doesn’t fake the funk..he is who he is..Hughes is a tuff Mofo..but IMO he comes across like a dick.

Well I’ll agree that the bible thing was lame. We can go back and fourth all day on this though. The treatment of his guys came from those guys not listening. Dan was going HARD in practice and Hughes asked him to turn it down abit, and he wouldnt. So Hughes showed him what hard was. Then he goes into the fight and did none of the hardcore stuff he was doing in practice. You mention the UFC hall of fame, do you think Serra will ever make that? So Serra should keep his mouth closed until he does something other than win the belt one time. Anyway I understand what your saying though.

Hughes was laughing at GSP being knocked out, not congratulating Serra on his tremendous win. There is a difference.

RE: Serra/Hughes – Serra gives his opinion whenever and wherever. It can be annoying but he is truthful in his beliefs and says it to their face.

DJ, its not ok for Hughes to laugh at GSP. But its ok for GSP to get in the cage after Hughes won and say “I’m not impressed by your performance” ??? Theres alway two sides to the stories. Dont just look at it from one point of view. And why would he go and congratulate a guy that he doesnt like? How many times have you heard Hughes talking about Serra? And how many times have you heard Serra talking about Hughes? GSP & Serra where on an interview and Serra turned it into an “I cant stand that guy” thing about Hughes.

What GSP said that night in the cage to Hughes and what he meant to say were two different things, and he was called out so he went in the cage. He meant to say it was not an impressive, dominant win. GSP is French-first language and his comment to Hughes got lost in the translation.

I do agree, from their time as coaches and from what we saw on the show, Hughes has said very little compared to Serra. He has taken the high road for that one.

u may be right but Serra is very good at Omo’s, and once Hughes gets the tackdown, I expect Serra to catch him in 1.

Omo’s are used more as sweeps in the UFC instead of submissions. I would like to see Serra change that and threaten Hughes’s shoulder till he taps! Snap or tap, how do u want it HUghes?

Serra isn’t submitting anyone with an omoplata, or anything for that matter. Serra’s only UFC sub is against Kelly Dulanty, 6 years ago, and that guy is a total scrub.

Serra has no TD defense and he takes too much damage from his guard.

Serra was supposed to be light years ahead of GSP on the ground as well, but GSP totally clowned him in every aspect and dominated Serra until he didn’t want anymore.

Plus his legs are about a long as my 2 year old son’s. Omo’s and gogo’s are a little easier for people with longer limbs.

Not so much Omo’s, leg length iMO is more important for Gogo’s

I will never understand all the love for Serra. That guy has proven he is a dick more than once, and his achievements in mma are not even in the same league as Hughes. Hardcharger is right, Serra never submits anyone. If it wasn’t for him having the night of his life beating GSP, which would never happen again in 100 fights, Serra would be a Jeapordy question that no one can answer. He was a snoozfest on TUF, and went to decision every match, and I honestly think he should have lost to Lytle, which was a boring fight as well. GSP raped Serra OZ style the second match, and after Hughes kicks his overrated ass, he will be back on the undercard where he belongs.

p.s.- sorry for the rant. haha

Not to mention the fact that Royce was never in a position to submit Hughes, and almost had his arm broken by Hughes. IMO, Royce is far better in BJJ than Serra will ever be.

Wow you got some strong feelings against Serra.

Regardless of who he fought. Regardless of who was on the show. He fought and won. He took advantage of the opportunity that was given to all contestants of the TUF4. So he’s lucky? Ok his lucky. He still has balls to step into the octagon and put his ass on the line..to test his luckiness. He gets my props for that alone.

Wow. You for 4sure have some strong feeling against Serra.

Redgardless of who he fought. Regardless of who was on the show. He took advantage of the opportunity that was given to everyone on the TUF4. So he is lucky?? Ok. Still Serra has balls to step into the octagon..put his ass on the line to test his luck everytime. He get’s my props just for that alone.

If thats the Case, then Hughes shuld have never been welterweight champion! Hughes got luck that his win over Newton for the belt was not rules a no contest. newton was clearly out due to the slam, but Hughes was out due to the triangle choke. U want to talk luck? Hueghes whole title reign was based on a lie, talk about luck!

How many people u know, won a world title while they were out cold? Fight should have been ruled the same way maynard/emerson was ruled!

My comrade… mmamania’s “Big f’n John”…with another excellent point.. and you can take that to the bank.

Dan: Regardless of who Serra fought. Who was on the TUF4. He fought and beat who he had to. Serra took advantege of the opportunity that was given to everyone on TUF4. So, he is Lucky. So be it…but Serra has the balls to step into the octagon and put ass on the line to test his luck everytime. He fights.. he doesn’t stall..or do all laying and praying. He leaves it all on the mat. He gets my props for that.

John, are you still crying about the Hughes-Newton fight at UFC 34?

BTW, they rematched that fight at UFC 38, and Hughes smashed Newton’s face in, winning by TKO. In between time, he TKOed Sakurai, which was the best contender out there at the time. Hughes earned his title back then.

Im not the one who’s trying to diminish fighter’s accomplishments by calling them Lucky! U started this idiotic discussion! Luck is involved in LIFE, so the F what…Deal with it! To say that he got lucky in his win is just garbage! Dude trained too hard for me to sit hear and listen to u call him lucky! DISGRACE!!!

Hardcharger: My dude John ain’t crying..he is rebutting to the comment made about Serra being lucky. We know Hughes beat Newton the 2nd time ..no ?? asked..and he went all to defend his belt numerious times. What John is talking about..is how Hughes first got his hand on UFC gold..that F’n luck. Hughes OUT COLD..Newton was OUT COLD 2..but how do they raise Hughes hand in that fight..y cuz was on top.? Maynard/Emerson is a great comparison to Hughes vs Newton 1..that fight was ruled a no contest and Hughes gets the W That fight was the beginning of what was Hughes reign in the UFC’s WW division.. but in reality he really didn’twin that fight. It should of been called a no contest. Easy. Jus wanted to put in my 2cents in…

That’s a nice comparison, other than the fact that Hughes rematched Newton and smashed him (after beating the #1 contender Sakurai in the meantime).

Serra got lucky, then rematched GSP, and got completely tooled – outclassed in every aspect.

Even if the first Hughes-Newton fight was ruled a no-contest, Hughes settled that score and then went on to beat a bunch of top fighters between 2001-2006. Matt Serra got lucky in one fight and then got exposed in the rematch, and doesn’t have a resume of beating top WWs.

well..in all respects Serra is true Light weight. He was one of the top LW’s back in the day…b4 they did away with the division. He went up to WW. I wouldn’t mind seeing him drop to 155 again.

I am not A Serra fan but he won the title fair and square. He was given the oppurtunity and siezed it. People call it luck I call it determination. However, I am a Hughes fan and can totally understand the argument about the Newton fight. I always thought the slam was more of a drop( due to him going nighty night standing up), understanding that a man weighing 180 plus pounds during the fight triangled on a guy weighing a similar amount at 5’7" in height would look like a slam when they fell due to Hughes going out on his feet.

i agree on the hughes/newton 1 ending possibly being a drop, but one could also argue it coulda happend sooner if newton hadn’t held on to the cage.
 i do like hughes and to the people who say he isnt the most dominate ww is tell me one that has been more so.
 gsp is an amazing fighter who will more than likely one day surpass what hughes has done, but untill then noone dominated the division like matt IMO of course

I don’t know how your saying Forrest deserves a title shot, he lost to Tito Ortiz, came back and beat Stephan Bonner, then gets KTFO by Keith Jardine, comes back w/ 2 wins, only 1 of which has any shred of credance and he’s earned a title shot???

Dude…Serra was part of contest that said..the winner of this TUF season will get an automatic title shot against whoever is the current champ. Hughes was the champ and loss to GSP. Serra won all his fights on his way to the finale..He beats Chris Lytle. And ur saying he didn’t derserve a title shot. So if any1 in that season from the 170’s to the 185’rs made it to the fianle and won..wouldn’t of deserved a title shot. Even thoug Dana made it clear that who ever wins the whole thing in their weight division gets a shot at the title. I mean Serra didn’t make up the rules..he played by them. And no can take that away from him. Jon Fitch of course with his body of wrok deserves a title shot..Deigo..wow is talented but..had some set backs..Forrest IMO is not he number guy next to get a title shot. 3 fights ago of his he lost to Jardine. Forrest is the most marketable to be fighting for the title..but I don’t is the most deserving. He should of had like Jon Fitch a string of “W’s” to get that shot.

PhilQNY, Just my opinion.

Rampage beat Eastman and got a title shot.
Anderson beat Leban and got a title shot.
Penn beat Pulver and got a title shot.
Nog beat Herring and got a title shot.
None of those guys that got beat were anywhere near the top of the division.

So Forrest beating the guy that was known as the best LHW at the time doesnt give Forrest the right to a title shot?

I only argue that all the above mentioned that recieved title shots have a way better resume than Forrest to begin with.

JV: hummm..ok

Rampage warm up fight..beats Eastman. ( Rampage destroyed Chuck in Pride )..Chuck up to that point had beat the who’s who of the division. That’s why Page got his shot.

The great Anderson Silva..in most people’s eyes came out of left field..excluding the HArdcore fans.. with 100% accurancy demolishes Leben..The MW division at the time..had nobody who would be notable to fight for the title. That’s why Silva got his shot.

The Prodigy..BJ Penn..well he is BJ Penn. Dana said the winner of Penn/Pulver would get a title shot. The UFC 2add gives more to a former UFC champ than most other fighter’s..that’s why BJ got his shot.

BigNog..The first ever Pride HW Champ!!..my man. His 3rd installment of fighting Heath was just a warm up fight. With da beef between UFC/Randy..and who else could been put in the fight a interim title match amongst the HH’s?? Nog got his shot cuz he beat Heath and cuz of his rez.

Now Forrest. Shogun without a doubt was the #1 guy at 205 at the time…but that was Shoguns first fight in the UFC..( The UFC giter’s ) played a factor..look at all the Pride guys except for Cro cop who got a warm up fight and who didn’t. PAge/Silva got a warm up fight..now they’re both champs..Wandi/Shogun no warm up fights..loss their 1st fight in the UFC. Dan Henderson no warm up..loss his first fight in his return to the UFC.. Forrest is one of the top dogs at that 205..after beating Shogun IMO he should of had one more “W”..b4 getting a title at least. Forrest gets special treatment cuz he is the orginal Ultimate fighter..Dana gave him his shot..cuz of how the UFC can market the fight. IMO I don’t think he deserved at title shot..just cuz he beat Shogun.

I think Shogun/Forrest was suppose to be a warm up fight for Shogun. If Shogun would have won the UFC would have givin Shogun a title shot after that. I dont think anybody expected Forrest to win, including me. And Forrest could have coasted threw the last minutes and got a decision. But Forrest chose to keep fighting and finish the fight. So beating the #1 ranked LHW in the world, IMO warrents the title shot.

Forrest is the man..I thought going into that fight Forrest was going to get killed..but as that fight got closer and closer..I felt that forrest could really beat Shogun..now if Shogun would beat Forrest in a good way..He would of 4sure been granted a title shot I believe..cuz like Page destroying Chuck..b4 PAge got his shot..Shogun gave what to me is the worast beating I ever saw any1 take in a MMA fight ever..so the UFC could marketed that title fight real good.