You forgot to mention GSP might be to talented of a wrestler (someone who knows how to stick to the game plan, unlike Hendo)for Silva to handle. I Know how great Silva is , but GSP’s top control is amazing and when there is a scramble he ends up on top. I could see him tiring Silva out and winning. For anyone who could fight at 185, I think GSP is the worst match up for Anderson. Hendo went in throwing wrecklessly and paid the price, GSP doesn’t do that. Silva has had dominant finishes, but he doesn’t dominate his peers the whole fight like GSP does.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT… SILVA WILL GET MANHANDLES BY GSPs UNBELIEVABLE WRESTLING AND OVER ALL STRENGTH!!

good one mike, I love thesesaying gsp can beat silva. Thats laughable, he’s never even defended his title, and silva has cleaned out the mw division. GSP couldn’t hand wash sliva’s Jock…probably could wear it on his head though!

GSP didn’t announce anything. Huerta is jumping the gun here.

GSP just said in an interview in the last 2 weeks that he has no plans to move up in weight classes anytime soon. He says he’d have to clean out WW first, and that he had quite a few more fights to win before that would be possible.

Al;l of the sudden they train together at Greg Jackson’s and they are already butt buddies who dont want to fight each other?

Whatever.

I love GSP and recognize him as the best fighter that is competing at welterweight today, but he is still yet to defend his title. I wouldnt move up until at least 4 or 5 title defenses. No matter what he does, he better stay at welterweight long enough to give BJ Penn another crack at him, or I will loose all respect for him.

GSP vs. Bisping at 185…anyone?

Give BJ another crack at him…I totally agree. He’d better go nowhere until then. Also I’d like to see GSP defend against Alves presuming he beats Fitch…a big enough presumption. Let’s not jump the gun here.

GSP vs. Bisping…I really like that idea.

Maybe BJ should worry about cleaning out the LW division before he thinks about moving up to challenge GSP? GSP is much, much closer to cleaning out WW than BJ is to cleaning out LW. If GSP beats Fitch, there may not be many fights left. Alves is one, but Alves will likely have to fight Kos or Diego first to prove he can make weight in a big fight before getting a shot at the title.

Bingo John. GSP has yet to defend his title. Shit..he might just lose to JOn Fitch. Which would mean he still has yet to win and defend the title..not even once. Why move up to MW?? Silva has dismantled the 185 division. THe is everybody else. then there is Anderson Silva. GSP needs a bunch of title defense..to then say.. hey ..you know what I want fight at 185.

GSP vs Bisping? I’d saw off a testicle with a spoon to see that one! Athletically I’d say GSP. But he’d better be mentally ready, cuz if there is one thing Bisping does not lack, it’s self-confidence.

most of these posts are from GSP haters…and yes I mean you ViolentMike. Has GSP said anything? I think not. Wait for his response.

don’t forget me jake

Jake are u GSP’s baby mama or something?

Penn needs to stay and clean out the LW division and GSP needs to stay and clean out the WW division. They can definetly move up if they want and GSP will still be defending his belt before the move so I think you guys should wait until you start getting angry about this. I’ll be straight here I don’t think anyone really hates GSP but people see that GSP might not be around for Penn to get a second shot at so they are getting uptight. If you’ve noticed GSP has lost to two people while Anderson has lost to four (don’t quote me on that I didn’t check the stats) and Penn has lost to more than that. These guys can do what they want but I’d like them to at least be fair and give the people in their division a chance to beat the champs. And one fight that I think would be amazing that I know GSP would have a hard time with… Franklin, seriously let Silva move up cause I don’t think GSP can even beat Franklin to be honest. I know Penn and GSP could probably clock everyone in the LW or WW divisions and Silva can probably do the same for his but when they move up there are people waiting to take them, like Franklin, Hendo, Rampage, Chuck, Wandy and these guys are no joke so I would like them to clean their division but if they move up there are way more fights to look forward to than just the Penn GSP fight or the GSP Silva fight or the GSP Penn Silva fight although any of those would be amazing

Seriously, everybody is jumping the gun. GSP didnt say anything, Huerta just put that out there quickly when faced with the possibility of fighting GSP his newfound “friend”. Everybody be freakin out. GSP still has a threatening fight left, there is no way Dana would even talk and allow GSP to consider that given the hurdle GSP still has to get over(Fitch).

And Penn will finish the LW division before GSP finishes the WW. GSP should be preparing for Penn anyway, not Silva. And Huerta at LW, what is he gonna do move to WW without every challenging for the LW belt? IS he that affraid of Penn?

No John I am not GSP’s baby mama. It just pisses me off when all you so called experts start analyzing the “rumor” of a fighter possibly moving up a weight class. This possibility wasn’t even mentioned by the fighter himself, so wait until it is official and comes from GSP himself. In the meantime enjoy the fight between Fitch and GSP and when GSP cleans his clock John, Kevin, PhilQNY and all the haters out there can critique his performance and complain about “how” he won.

Also, cleared out the division, I don’t think he has beat Okami yet, so get off his nuts. Stop riding all the pound for pound kings like BJ and Silva.

Well she did interview him in a motel room, and you know what happened after that, Wham Bam!!! Now she’s on his nuts..coincidence ever since Burkman lost to Swick?? GSP and I have "same similarities’??? That’s like saying a short midget or a smart genius. Flo and Huerta will be a WAR. The LW and WW div’s are stacked. GSP still hasn’t successfully defended his title and hasn’t cleaned out the div yet. Maybe late next year there will be some weight class movements, but not this year.

LOL, don’t worry about it bnf, happens to all of us (double posts).

FTW = for the win!!!

FTW actually means F*ck The World.

LOL, that too.

What about Penn moving up to early john? He hasn’t defended his belt yet and it seems likely that he’s going to try and challenge GSP before that happens. I’m sorry man but GSP has more right to move up even though he has not defended his title yet. He has beaten the old champ twice in dramatic fashion and he has dominated most fights he has been in. Penn is amazing and I don’t want to make it like he couldn’t hang in the WW division cause I know he could but GSP has not confirmed this information yet and he’s already set to defend his belt against Fitch. Alves and Diego also should have to prove themselves with another fight or so. I would actually think it’d be fair for Diego to face off against Thiago to claim the next number one contender. I think it would be a little backward for Penn to move up so here in lies who GSP should have to face next. I don’t see why if he has to wait to find the next number one contender and for Penn to start defending his belt in WW he couldn’t move up to MW for a fight to test the waters kind of like Silva is doing.

Was I believe. Arianny & Roger though…Whoa…They’d produce some aesthetically gifted children…Ridiculous genes.

Josh Burkman???

WTF???

MMA as a whole is much bigger now. Plus the Affliction card has former UFC champs on it, and the Affliction brand name is HUGE among the male demographic it caters to – I wouldn’t doom their ppv numbers just yet.

Dude, whenever I see someone wear an Affliction shirt, I usually ask them what they think about the PPV. Most of them DON’T KNOW THERE IS ONE.

Exactly… Clothing and running an MMA promotion are DIFFERENT things. Most of the people who probably wear Affliction don’t even know they’ve already entered the MMA Promotion business.

like i said in another thread

gsp would get his croissant buttered if he fought huerta

I know Penn fans say some of the dumbest things, but GSP running from Penn, HA HA HA HA!. He already beat BJ. A win over Silva will put a WAAAAAY bigger notch in his belt than beating BJ AGAIN. Ya he’s running from BJ (a guy he has already beat)to Anderson Silva. Do you realize how dumb that sounds.

No hate here, I agree he is running from a stacked division… someone should let him know that the WW is another stacked division. Maybe he was talking about the WEC instead of the UFC. Condit would be a good fight to watch, but I’d still see Condit winning.

Carlos “I always look like I smelled something bad” Condit would not stand a chance…get real.

Condit could MeanMug his way to the top 10 WW’s, I don’t see him in the top 5, which further adds to my feelings of Huerta as a possible WW.

agree with your list.. just wanted to add griffin & aurelio. i hope he runs into Diego @ 170. that should be a reality check for him.

You won’t see GSP vs Marquardt, in fact you won’t see GSP at MW if Marquardt is in the title picture. They are training partners and friends.

and my names not stinky

its

Stinky~fingers

get it right.

or you can call me by my full name

Master~Stinky~finger~tips

get it

i give great mma tips

ROFL!!!!!

you like that one huh?

well i go by the old chinese saying

He who goes to bed with itchy bum-hole?

wakes up with stinky~fingers.

and i go to bed every night with the itchiest of bum-holes.

you need to stop

who me?

why?

explain!

Keep going, Stinky!

I love it!

Hahahahaha

Why are people so confident in GSP?

Because GSP has beaten more top fighters than any other fighter at their weight class, and nearly every time, GSP has done it in dominating fashion. Plus, GSP is still only 27 and shows a rate of improvement that is incredible. GSP has one blip on the radar screen in 4 years, and a litany of other dominating, incredible performances against amazing fighters, former champs, and Top 10 guys.

What’s so hard to understand, GSP only lost to 2 guys and then he RAPED those SAME 2 guys in 3 rematches. What more can he do than that. I can’t understand, why you can’t understand this.

lol, yeah but florian will kill huerta! and bj will kill florian. why are your figners stinky? you do know it’s gay to finger your own ass right??

Who did huerta beat to earn the right to challeng for #1 contender? Clay Guida? This will all be put to rest after the florian fight. Florian will school Huerta. I wish huerta was capable of beating Florian, but he is not. 2 rounds tops, sub or TKO Florian will literally have the option.

hey stinky, are you really from stockton? I live in the bay area, and understand your comments ore if you really are from stockton!!

Who else in the lightweight division deserves the shot at the number 1 contender spot beside Kenflo, if not Huerta?

the way I rate it is who can beat the champioon, so I guess the #1 contender fight should go to BJ. He will only lose if he’s not mentally in it!

yeah

totally ignore my post kevin its ok i understand that you have no valid response to your silly gonzaga theroy.

newbies learn somthing new everyday but you could at least say thankyou

yourwelcome

and yes i am from stockton. born and raised.

i dont live there now but i go there at least once a month.

i have alot of family and friends there.

There probably not even fighting for #1 contender. You have to keep in mind the man crush Sherk and Dana have with each other. Florian and Huerta are likely fighting for the oppurtunity to get layed on by Sherk to determine #1 contender status. Honestly, if you base it on record, nobody but kenFlo and huerta deserve to be fighting for contender status. But there are a few guys at LW, that I think, are a lot better than Huerta.

the bay area huh

where abouts kevin?

and no i dont finger my a$$ but that was pretty funny lmfao

if you do understand my comments because you are from near where i am at?

then you should know what stinky fingers means.

james s that fight is for #1 contender. trust me

dana has already said this numerous times

stinky, you’re calling someone a noob even though you think diego sanchez can beat fedor. that’s a noob argument…

no i was just calling him that because he said i finger my a$$

so i take it back

i have no idea who is a new fan or not

but i do know i have been following mma for about 12 years and i know about 25 different mma fighters personally.

great ones to not so great ones

elitexc fighters to ufc fighters

and i said eddie sanchez not diego

first off, I go to stockton a couple times a month because unfortunately my wifes family is there. I dread every time she wants to go. We probably know a lot of the same people. My wife trained a caesars 12-15 years ago when women didn’t train. I’m not from here, from east coast, so have no idea about stinky fingers.
As far as Gonzaga, he’s overrated just like huerta. You’re probably mexican (nothing against that, my wife is too), so thats why you’re blinded into thinking huerta is good. By the way, Nick Diaz is one of my favorite fighters, and I like you, have been watching mma since long before it was hip to do so!

oh man, eddie got owned big time by crocop. come on, I understand you don’t like fedor, but you’re stretching it a bit are you not? Just because he hasn’t fought anyone for two years? you’re buying the DW argument/hype. Will you give fedor his dues when he beats big tim?

Like James S said, record wise Huerta looks good, but there are tons of LW fighters that are better then Huerta. Huerta will lose to Florian, and Florian will lose to PEnn.

There’s not enough bricks and rivers in Canada for GSP to get mentally prepared for fighting Silva. I’d piss myself in anticipation for that fight, but I am one of Silva’s top 5 nuthuggers and see him winning that fight.

Please stop with the GSP hating madness. Anytime someone tries to give GSP credit you’re always trying to jump in and tell them how stupid they are. You obviously don’t like him and think he’ll get destroyed by BJ and Anderson. OK then. You’re only one person. Quit making a big deal about others thinking he’ll beat those guys. You clearly hate GSP and you fail to give an honest judgement of him as a fighter, so maybe you sghould grow up a bit and get over whatever it is thats making you hate GSP. You prolly hate him cuz he took it to BJ for two rounds after being poked in the eye and fighting with blurred vision for the entire first round. Imagine having to fight while seeing doubles….it just says enough that BJ couldn’t knock him out and that GSP fought through adversity, then regrouped, then controled the last two rounds.

There’s my opinion. I won’t whine if I hear someone who disagrees with me like you always seem to do.

BJ at LW is Elite
GSP at WW is Elite
Anderson at MW is Elite

Anything above that, for any one of them becomes to much. BJ would not beat GSP and GSP wont beat Silva. Thats just the way it is. Any of them could do good at a bigger weight class but I dont think they will be so dominant.

GSP is not elite @ WW. elite is when you dominate wherever the fight goes. he’s just a tall wrestler thats afraid to get KOd and hasn’t defended the title yet. Thiago Alves would send him flying into the 3rd row.

Thats just you buying into the Alves hype kama kaze. Dominating is what GSP does. GSP is not a wrestler hes just using it, in his fights. Other than the BJ fight, GSP has dominated his opponents. How is he not Elite?

hey cory, I agree GSP is a good fighter…talk to me when he defends his title 2 or 3 times. Silva is elite, as is BJ. I’ll give GSP credit, he’s on his way, but not elite yet. My hate for him has nothing to do with my opinions, I ALWAYS have an open mind, and have no problem admitting he is a great fighter!

Thiago Alves has a realistic chance of landing a KO blow to GSP. But there’s an even better chance that GSP will control Alves like Fitch did. Yes, Alves has improved since then, but GSP is like an advanced version of Fitch.

And I agree with Kevin that GSP has little chance of beating Anderson. He’d have to KO him (we’ve seen great strikers like Cro Cop and Liddell get knocked out), or hit some crazy flying submission. I don’t see the first one happening, and there is no way in hell the second one if happening unless GSP is possessed by Shinya Aoki or Genki Sudo that night. Yes, GSP might out-wrestle Anderson (I say might b/c even though he has more wrestling skill, Anderson’s size might be too much). The benefit of great wrestling is you can take the fight to where you are better than your opponent, either on the ground, or keeping it on the feet like Chuck does. But the problem is, GSP is obviously not better than Anderson on the feet, and he’s at best on par with Anderson on the ground (Silva’s a Nog black belt).

BJ could beat Anderson, IF he can take him down, because he’s better than Anderson on the ground, and he has a solid chin that he probably won’t get knocked out. But if he can’t take it to the ground, Anderson will probably be scoring points all night on the feet, and winning a unanimous decision.

But when it comes to BJ-GSP, I’d still lean towards GSP b/c of his size and athletic advantage. I think BJ’s conditioning is at its best when he’s at 155. When he fights at 170, he’s not been at his best shape. The fact that he still beat a prime Hughes is a testament to his skill-set. BJ is the most skilled fighter, period. More skilled than Anderson and Fedor. If BJ was a natural 170 lb. fighter, he’d tool GSP (for more than one round).

his standup is questionable. guys like bj & serra who have shorter reach than him can outbox him easily. i’ll bow down if GSP beats BJ or Alves decisively.

I buy into the Alves hype…actually…I wouldn’t call it hype. Alves’ last two fights were dominations of Karo and Matt Hughes. He finished Hughes quicker than GSP did in either of GSP/Hughes fights.

Alves is a complete fighter and is as big, if not bigger, than GSP.

But none of this will really matter, Jon Fitch will silence the GSP fan boys.

Don’t get me wrong, I like GSP and his faced paced and dominant fight style (against smaller fighters). Jon Fitch isn’t a smaller fighter.

TabascoSAUCE, Alves is kinda hype up right now. A win over Hughes was big, but Hughes is past his prime. The Karo fight was a good legit win. Besides those two what else has he done? I say let Alves fight Swick with the winner getting a title shot.

Kevin, talk to me when BJ defends his title 2 or 3 times. Does that sound reasonable?

IMO, BJ and GSP are 2 of the best 3 fighters in the world, regardless of how many times they have defended their belt. They’ve dominated top guys in their weight classes.

LOL at the Alves hype. The guy hasn’t made a legit 170 (championship weight, not 171) in years, and last time he did he was busted for cheating by using illegal diuretics/steroid masking agents. Fitch also beat Alves to a pulp when they fought.

I’m not sure why people talk about Fitch’s size as if he’s gonna dwarf GSP. They forget that GSP regularly trains with bigger guys such as Nate Marquardt, David Loiseau, Patrick Cote, Keith Jardine, and Rashad Evans (a HW on TUF). And they don’t all fight at the same PPV’s. That means when GSP has already cut to about 180 lbs., he’s training with at least one of these guys at their walking weight (~215 lbs.).

Dominating smaller guys = losing against bigger guys? That doesn’t make sense.

Even though Fitch is a little bigger than GSP, GSP still has speed on him and the edge in skills. He doesn’t dominate Fitch in any one area, but he’s better than Fitch everywhere. Unless Fitch has been training Muay Thai in Thailand since his last fight, he probably hasn’t advanced his stand-up enough to threaten GSP there. I give Fitch a better chance than the odds would suggest, but I still have GSP winning this one.

Hardcharger, lol. yea OK Alves is a cheater. but little technicalities doesn’t change the fact that he ROMPED 2 top 10 WWs so easily. He’s a factor. Even though he lost to Fitch, I kind of agree with Pat’s points that GSP will be ready for whatever Fitch brings whereas Alves is a tougher matchup for GSP cuz GSP’s weaknesses play into Alves’ strengths: TD defense & standup. When was the last time GSP faced a top10 striker as big as him? uhhh NEVER! 3rd row! bodies are flying!

Yes, Alves has looked like a destroyer his last 2 fights for the most part (even though Karo won Rd 1 against him and outstruck Alves for that round). But if Alves wants to actually win a UFC title belt, he has to make weight, and he hasn’t shown he can do that without cheating.

I do think that stylistically, Alves is a tougher matchup for GSP because Alves poses a threat to win on the feet. GSP matches up very well with Fitch, even though Fitch is very well rounded.

As for your last question, how about the reverse? When is the last time Alves faced a tall, lanky WW with excellent wrestling, excellent BJJ, and good standup? Answer: Jon Fitch, who beat Alves like a rented mule.

ahhh.. good point there. should be a good fight