I mean does anyone really think its coincidense? There is no other possible reason that they would throw a show together so quick. At the same time it is a brilliant move by Zuffa.

Great time to be a mma fan! Hopefully Affliction survives and we can have a good rivarly.

I’d rather see all major talent under one banner.

I really hope Affliction manages to come out on top on July 19th. Competition is always good for the consumer. Can’t blame the UFC for this counter-programming. It’s just solid business.

a bit selfish but good move

UFC WILL GET MUCH MORE VIEWERS ITS GONNA BE A MUCH MUCH BETTER EVENT THAN AFFLICTION. TOP NOTCH FIGHTERS WITH SOLID EXPERIENCE AND EXCITEMENT OF SILVA TO LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT. I REALLY HOPE SILVA DESTROYS IRVIN BUT THAT GUY IRVIN IS ALSO NO JOKE. HIS FIGHTS ARE MUCH MORE EXPLOSIVE THAN SILVA’S. F***

Another thing, if Dana was really about giving the fans what they wanted, he would have signed Fedor, resigned Linland and Diaz a long time ago, and made UFC 85 free on Spike. Also just a note, Anderson Silva made his octogan debut on UFN 5 in June of 06, now he is making another debut of sorts on UFN 14. Kind of gay trivia. Sorry.

I know what I’ll be watching. The Affliction card is just SICK!!!!! I love the UFC but there is no way I’m missing all the top talent on display that night.

mmafan, u are obviously not an mma fan. u have no knowledge of an echelon class of an “mma fan” u consider urself to be. that free spike fight card is great, but affliction debut card is one of the best card ever put together. fedor on the card is enough said. then u get arlovski, u got baby face assasin, u got aleksander , u got linland, u got babalu just to name a few…. top notch fighters on the spike card? throw in anderson silva, franca, and ill even give u vera and u think its top notch compared to some of the best mma ever in the affliction card. dont get me wrong im not hatin on the ufc, im just stating it from an unbiased point of view.. u obviously have no fuckin idea what ure saying. “[irvin] fights are much more explosive than silva’s” that statement alone revokes ur talking privileges. but however u are entitled to ur opinions. no one says ure mute if u dont speak

There is NO QUESTION the UFC is BUSINESS. This is better for all of us Rice-a-roni. You obviously like the Affliction card better than the UFC card. Enjoy it bro.

Anderson Silva, James Irvin, Brandon Vera, Herman Franca are already a better card if you wanna argue. The only good fighters in Affliction are Arlovski, Fedor which again in my eyes are not enough to MATCH THE UFC. OLD FARTS IN AFFLICTION.

It looks like to me that YOU are NOT a true fan of MMA. Watch some of James Irvin’s fights then tell me that this guys fights aren’t MORE EXPLOSIVE. Please do your homework.

dirty dirty dirty business move.
I’m sorry but this is pretty low, especially when Dana and the UFC claim they want to just “expand mixed martial arts”
I’m a mma fighter, i’d love to be in the UFC, but after this I really just dont know anymore, this made me really sick. The UFC has all this money, all this talent, and all they want to do is squash the “competition” as soon as possible. Its just ridiculous. Moving fights around, having fighters change weight classes. I feel like Dana White and Gary Shaw are having some sweet man sex together. This is not right, This is lower then Vince McMahon.

Affliction has to be paying the guys they got an assload of money. Its a sick card, but Sylvia was making 6 figures in fights he lost in the UFC, we know Fedor demands some dollars, and thats not even mentioning Arlovski, Rothwell, Babalu, Barnett, Belfort…those guys all demand big money for their fights. I’m not sure if they can afford to be losing any ppv sales on this card. I’m sure they expect to lose some money with this being their first card and with it being so stacked, but the UFC is smart by hitting them where it hurts. They will definitely lose some ppv viewers because of UFN 14. If they can’t sell a card this stacked with world class fighters vs. Anderson Silva/James Irvin, what kind of sales do they expect in the future? I think the money is with the casual fans, and the UFC has all of them. These promotions expect the loyal hardcore fans to buy their shows, but Dana White knows the casual fans are what puts you over the top. Everybody knows Anderson Silva now. I guarantee more people want to see him fight than Fedor. Its a marketing thing. Thats why Dana didn’t sign Fedor. He wasn’t worth what he was asking for, because the casual fans don’t even know who he is. Anderson Silva came in the UFC at a cheap price and built his name with domination. Despite what this guy is saying, UFN 14 is a big blow to Affliction. If this were chess, Dana White just put every other MMA organization in check.

Also, is it possible that Dana White and the UFC made the decision to have this show weeks ago, but didn’t say anything? Maybe they wanted to make sure Affliction and any other organization knew that they can do this whenever they want. By announcing it late, they make sure Affliction knows its an obvious ploy to pull viewers from them. Where as if they announced this a month or two ago, it might not have looked so obvious. Its like rubbing it in. I could be wrong, but the UFC has been around for a long time and they know what they’re doing.

They could have done this with the May 31 Elite XC event too, but I don’t think Dana is too worried about Elite XC. Plus, he probably wanted Elite XC to get a lot of viewers that night. To the network tv execs, if Elite XC can pull in those kind of viewers, imagine what the UFC will pull in. That could equate to a bigger network deal for the UFC. If they really wanted to, they could have had the WEC show on the same night, but they didn’t. They had it the night after, on a Sunday, which is weird. Is it not? Maybe they were trying to not lose viewers to Elite XC, but I think it was more to make sure CBS got their numbers, which would be good for the UFC in the future.

We saw Elite XC pull out of their June 27 ShoXC event. That definitely had something to do with Strikeforce having an event on the same night, and Elite XC and Strikeforce being allies. I’m telling you, these other organizations need as many viewers as they can get, and the UFC just stole a bunch from Affliction.

Both cards have some potentially great fights. As a fan of the sport as a whole, it is in your best interest to support the Affliction card. If the UFC maintains a monopoly on the sport, everyone loses with the exception of Zuffa and Dana.

As it stands, we could have already seen the Fedor/Randy fight months ago had it not been for red tape and contractual wrangling.

Props to Dana for his business savvy, but his ego will not only be his downfall, but will cause a major blow to this sport.

mma fan, you are just non very bright.
seriously c’mon…Silva beat Vera, Fedor is ranked n.1 in the world, and Lindland got cut because he was going to beat the Rich" I have the weakest chin in MMA" Franklin.
 do you bend over or does dana white?

well i guess im gonna order the affiliction card and tape the ufc But Has The UFC even comfirmed this fight card yet. its not posted in the events section.

mmafan you are such a tool.

Most “fans” will watch the Affliction card and then tivo/watch rutube caps of the UFC event… unless theyre broke. Competition is always good for consumers. The only other option I see is going the way of most other professional sports, but then you get athlete unions and all kinds of shit.

Good for MMA-fans? Well, that’s hard to say. On the one hand we have two cards July 19. That’s good. On the other hand: if UFC:s move hurt Affliction it could mean that Affliction won’t be able to put up great cards in the future. That’s bad. Not blaming UFC here, they are just doing business. So, what’s good for MMA-fans in the long run is very hard to say.

My posts are getting filtered for some reason. Not sure why, so there might be two in a row up there. Sorry.

And it’s not that they’re trying to control everything, they’re just welcoming the fight. It’s good competition. Every good business tries to squash it’s competitors by putting out great products. We, the consumers, win.

Anderson Silva and Fedor Emelianko, two of the top 3 on most peoples pound for pound best in the same night, not to mention half the top 10 best heavyweights in the world on one card, and seeing A. Silva in a new weight class as well as Vera..

What a great f’ing night this will be, it calls for beer and pizza.

Affliction card is stacked…. mmafan, you’re a tool if you can’t see it.

mmafan is not a mmafan lol nuff said ignore the reject. The Affliction card is the best mma card ever in the history of mma thats a fact not opinion. AA Tim FEDOR BARNET = The top 6 HW’s in the world courture&Big Nog the 2 that are missing 4/6 is pretty fucken good. O yeah forgot to mention Aleks a top 10 as well. O forgot to mention Lindland top 10 in fact top 5 Middleweight…. Plenty of other good fighters as well and big names so yeah nuff said.

I love how Dana White … erm … sorry, I meant “mmafan” and Joe Silva … erm … I mean “emanuel0523” are trying to hype up UFN 14 over Afflication:Banned.

When Sylvia was the UFC champ (and he was for a very very long time after all), everyone was asking for Fedor-Sylvia and Dana White didn’t got tired saying that Tim would beat him. So basically he was doing promotion for this fight for like 2 years. Now that its not under the UFC banner its suddenly a b-class bout and a experimental non-title fight of Anderson Silva is alot more meaningful.

Give me a break, with Fedor, Sylvia, Barnett and Arlovski you got 4 out of the worldwide heavyweight Top10 right there, on one single card! Additionally you got Babalu, Lindland, Little Nog, Alexander Emelianenko, Paulo Buentello, Pedro Rizzo and Vitor Belfort. This is like a birthday and xmas gift on new years eve put together for any serious MMA fan.

Affliction has some good names, but headline bout aside they are all one-sided bouts like the Elte XC card. I am much more interested in UFC line-up, Fedor aside.

It’s all about business baby

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Affliction is done, no way they will get enough PPV numbers to stay afloat. I hope they put on a good show, because it will be there last.

I’m guessing I can’t go to any bar and watch this for free, right?……

Affliction will do fine the counter card by dana is pretty weak we all know silva will win,plus alot of us fans really want to see fedor fight someone,NOW im sayint tim is great but this is the best competition fedor has fought in a long while and im would really like to see this event.the donald is no dummy trust me.

Also, all the people saying “UFC shouldn’t do this. Competition is good for MMA and its fans” should give me a break. Yes, competition is definitely good for the consumer. That is, if there are 2 or more companies that are actually competitive! The bigger company letting a smaller company have easier entry to the market does not make it more of a competition. That’s like saying Anderson Silva should take it easier on his opponents b/c it would create more competition and is better for the MW division. No. Someone has to step up and beat or at least endanger Anderson Silva, with Anderson Silva resisting as best he can. That’s competition. That’s exactly what another company needs to do to the UFC in order to be considered competition. The UFC putting out a show on the same day as Banned is like Anderson training for a fight. Does that make Anderson scared? No. That makes him prepared and keeps him at the top of his game.

Does anyone really care if Affliction survives? I don’t. If we get a few companies like this doing one time events with a card like this i don’t really care. If i get to see Fedor fight twice this year for Affliction and then they go under, big deal. I still got to see Fedor whoop Timmy, see Barnett back in action, see AA and other top fighters. Then if another company wants to sign them to another great card, i’ll buy that.

mmamania, ure probably shouldnt talk anymore

mmamania, ure the one thats obviously doesnt know what ure talkin about. i have been watching mma long before u jump the ufc obsession bandwagon… what do u know about anderson silva upper cut elbow that knocks out tony fricklund? what do u know about technical fights? rewind back to ur belittled brain and rewatch anderson silva fight against leben, 100% striking accuracy for anderson… i can almost bet anything that u get 99% of ur mma “knowledge” through the ufc…. what do u know about rickson gracie, what do you know about travis fulton? what do u know about cung le? what do u know about other great fighters out there that arent in the ufc? what do u know about shaolin?
that just proves how much u know about mma and consider urself a fan… and sayin that fedor and arlovski cannot compete in the ufc, u gotta be living under the rock all ur life… do ur homework and go watch a diff sport cuz u dont know wat ure saying

im unbiased when it comes to mma. i will be rootin for james irvin this fight because hes one of my fav fighter, so u cant say im bashing james irvin. i will be watching the spike tv fight because i cannot afford affliction. but if given the choice, affliction card hands down.

talk about explosive, ever seen fedor beat down the current ufc heavyweight champ not one but twice? ever seen the distruction of james thompson by aleksander, ever seen the sick submission of a rear naked choke on shogun rua by babalu?

just dont bother to reply me unless u have something worth arguing

mmafan im sure u dont even know shogun lost to a rnc by babalu did u?

i am sorry all my comments ARE NOT for mmamania, but for MMAFAN. sry for the mispell so dont ban me mmamania, i love your site!

The UFC is really intent on trying to make this a non-event with their Free tv event now scheduled to conflict with this card.
It really is a great example of the bullying that is prevelent in this business. (What makes TUF so interesting is locking up 16 bullies together with no schleps to bully.)
The UFC is not happy that they are now facing some real competition in the MMA promo biz.
The UFC’s had a free run in this biz for quite a while, but now look to have some serious competition.
There are some real big $$$ppl backing up Affliction and more & more fighters are questioning their deals with the UFC, particularily the “exclusivity” of their contracts. These exclusive deals really hurt us all, as the fighters can only fight in the UFC & therefore cannot (sometimes) make a decent living. A fighter has a very short “shelf life” & needs to make his dough while he can. In the UFC, a figher may have a 3 fight deal, (prob for some good $$$), but he may not get those fights in under 2 or 3 years. Not enough action for an MMA figher to make it in the biz. The UFC needs to drop its exclusivity for its non-championship calibre fighers.
I think the competition is good for us fans as it will force the UFC… (& other promotions) to put on the best shows possible to draw us to buy. It also forces Promotions to pay the fighters what they’re worth.
I really do love the UFC, it’s brought MMA to the mainstream. But to maintain the integrity of the sport, you can’t have a monopoly.
I will buy the PPV event & record the UFC fight card for later viewing.

UFC tries hard to make an event in the big apple, In one of Mr. Trumps Towers he has a Poster, a HUGE poster, for the Affliction Banned event, so im sure folks know wats going on!!!!