UFC 88: Chuck Liddell vs Rashad Evans main event likely

Former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell (21-5) will likely take on Rashad Evans (11-0-1) during the UFC 88 main event at the Philips Arena in Atlanta, Ga., on Saturday, September 6.
MMAmania.com learned about the match up several weeks ago; however, an independent ESPN.com report has today confirmed the possibility, indicating that bout agreements have not been signed despite verbal commitments.
The pair was originally booked to headline the UFC 85: "Bedlam" pay-per-view (PPV) on June 7; however, a hamstring injury forced the "Iceman" off the card. Rather than take a risky fight against a dangerous and unknown opponent such as Luis Arthur Cane on short notice, Evans, too, opted to postpone his appearance at the London show.
Liddell rebounded from back-to-back losses in 2007 to outpoint Wanderlei Silva in a thrilling three-round war at UFC 79: "Nemesis" back in December. He was initially supposed to meet up with Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (not Evans) at UFC 85, but an injury to the Brazilian forced him to pull out of the monster showdown.
Most reports indicate that Rua will not be fit until the latter part of 2008, making it difficult for Liddell -- the organization's top draw and its most recognizable fighter -- to sit on the sidelines and wait.
Evans has actually been out of action longer than Liddell -- he hasn't competed since a split decision win over Michael Bisping at UFC 78: "Validation" back in November 2007.
The undefeated heavyweight winner of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 2 has won six straight fights inside the Octagon (with a draw against Tito Ortiz in there) and will certainly cement his status as a top contender in the loaded light heavyweight division with a win over Liddell.
It's a huge opportunity.
This recent development means that the rumors that UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva would move up to 205 pounds to challenge Liddell were nothing more than speculation ... at least for now.
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Do we really want to see this fight. There are so many other great fights that can be setup?
by hayden_deacon on Jun 13, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
I didn’t like this fight before and I still don’t. I think this is a clear case of Dana trying to get Chuck to the title fight with the least resistance. Why not wait another month for Shogun? Machida, imo, is next in line for the title. If Chuck gets a title shot over Machida I will be calling BS. At the very least Machida should be fighting Chuck for the #1 contender
by RealDrew on Jun 13, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I highly doubt Chuck will get a title shot agaisn’t the winner of Rampage/Forrest after he kills Rashad. That would mean basically 1 LHW title fight in 2008, as Chuck would not be ready until New Years Weekend at the earilest.
There needs to be more title defenses whether it be Rampage or Forrest. I think the only way he will get a shot is if Forrest wins. TUF 1 winner vs coach on New Years Eve I could see. If Rampage wins hopefully he will fight Machida in October/November.
by bnf on Jun 13, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Chuck uppercuts Rashad’s head into the upper stratosphere ala Streetfighter.
However, I do not look forward to Chuck getting pounded by Rampage again.
Give us Chuck v. Wandy II !!!
by OJR on Jun 13, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, NO one wants to see Chuck kill Rashad. I also would rather see Chuck vs. Wandy 2 instead.
If Chuckl wants a title shot, he should step up and fight Machida. But we all know that Chuck’s camp thinks Machida is too dangerous… chuck, you always fought whoever they put in front of you, and I respect that! Stop ducking Machida! Chuck wants another title shot, he should have to go through Machida to get it.
I woulod even rather see Chuck vs. Tiago Silva instead of Rashad!
by john on Jun 13, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
evens got a draw with tito and machida beat tito, machida deserves this fight more.
by roy on Jun 13, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont mind Rashad/Chuck…But i would rather see Wand/Chuck.2, or Chuck/Shogun….
lol.. nobody want’s to fight my boy, Luiz Cane..
by Stagger-Lee on Jun 13, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Stager Lee: your boy,Luiz Cane is an animal. I got a great match up for him:
Luiz Cane vs. Goren (THe croation Kat who just destroyed Wilson Gouveia at UFC 84.
That would be a bad ass match up.
Other good opponents for Cane would be:
Antonio Mendes (who is much better then what he showed agaiunst Tiago Silva)
Sokoudjou
Wilson gouveai
Stager Lee: Where does Cane train? ChuteBox?
by john on Jun 14, 2008 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
a more likely scenario is that chuck is goin bananas and begging to fight somebody, he doesn’t care who….like when he fought babalu the first time, risking his chance of a title shot cuz he loves to fight and wants to stay busy….this is not really a fight i wanna see but would be nice to see chuck knock somebody out again, after that, then shogun/machida for a title shot
by Crowls on Jun 13, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Chuck vs Machida would be boring. Two counter punchers never have exciting fights.
by DB on Jun 13, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
damn i was going to say that! they would both stand there waiting for the other to punch. however chuck has been know the be aggressor is some of his fights. but u have to remember, there’s a HUGE difference between chucks counterpunches and lyoto’s. chuck’s punches are knockout punches! as we all have seen before. i believe chuck has more knockouts on his record than lyoto has wins, but i’m not 100 percent sure on that one.
by CBfighter on Jun 13, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!! “should” not “sound”
god i think i’m retarded today!! LOL!!
by CBfighter on Jun 13, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know, Chuck was pretty aggresive against Wandy.
by RealDrew on Jun 13, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. if chuck fought lyoto, chuck would be the aggressor. i can see it now… lyoto running in circles for 15 minutes while chuck is trying to kill him!
by CBfighter on Jun 13, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That is exactly what would happen. Not a doubt in my mind. haha
by naturalshadow on Jun 13, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida Doesnt run!! He circles and tags you whenever an oportunity arises. Get it straight.
by TrueMMA on Jun 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
feed machida to wandy and if he can pull that win off, give him a shot for #1 contender. just because you take tito to a decision doesn’t mean you should be the #1 contender. He needs to beat a couple more big names before he gets a shot
by bigbadbrad on Jun 13, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Machida is more deserving then any other 205er. Machida is 13-0 with wins over: Tito, Franklin, Bonner, BJ, Sokoudjou and Nakamura. That’s an impressive resume. No one else at 205 has enough consecutive victories to justify getting a title shot.
by RealDrew on Jun 13, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Those names do not compare to some of the other fighter’s lists of wins in 205. He should have to fight Wandy, which could happen since they both last fought on the same card. If he beats Wandy, then by all means, give him a title shot. Personally, I don’t think he could beat Wandy.
by naturalshadow on Jun 13, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I am sure this isn’t going to happen but I would let Chuck fight Evans to keep him active then have him fight Shogun next month and Machida a ouple months later. Lets be honest he isn’t exactly a spring chicken I would be trying to milk him if I was Dana the best I could. Two fights a year isn’t exactly cutting it for a guy of his age and draw potential.
by shaze on Jun 13, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree…to an extent. I think Chuck fights Evans in Sept. is fine for a tune up fight but then he fights Rua on the New Years Eve Super-card. I think this years end of 08 card is going to be insane! Could you imagine if they give us Chuck vs Shogun and GSP vs Penn!?!? With a Vera vs Werdum rematch…or maybe Hughes vs Serra? There are so many match ups that will sell huge numbers! You put a couple together and you have the ability to break all MMA records!
by WarriorCenter on Jun 13, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Should be Wanderlei vs Machida for the No. 1 contender
by chris on Jun 13, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. It is nice to hear someone give Machida the respect he deserves. All I have been hearing is how boring a fighter he is. Yet he has adapted an obsolete fighting style and made it extremly effective. RESPECT that!! Machida will be champ before 09 is thru
by TrueMMA on Jun 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
karate isn’t exactly obsolete. You use kicks, punches, knees, elbows, etc. You can see Karate in the way that both Liddell and GSP fight. Now if he can somehow use Tai Chi or Drunken Monkey Kung-Fu, then you really have something. haha
by naturalshadow on Jun 14, 2008 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t looking forward to this fight before, and with the way the lhw division is stacked, am even less enthused now. I’m not a big Rashad fan, and think chuck could go against any number of guys that match up better!
by kevin on Jun 13, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. It’s a shame really, unless you’re Dana or Chuck. Rashad is only a “top 5 205’er” because Dana said the winner of him and Bisping got to move up to said rank, and now Liddell gets a nice free shot at the title lol. I personally don’t care for either of them, Rashad because I feel he’s over-rated, and Liddell, just because it’s fun to hate on Liddell lol.
by Toms Bombs on Jun 13, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I was about to say that Rashad has won enough fights to deserve a major chance to move up, but looking at his results I have to disagree with my original assessment. He is 6-0-1 with four wins by split decision or majority decision, meaning he isn’t even winning decisively enough to convince three people he won those fights. The KO over Salmon is going to be on highlight reels forever, but I just took Salmon’s lunch money and gave him a wedgie last week, so that win really means nothing. So really, the only good win Rashad has is his KO of Lambert.
by PW on Jun 13, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just out of curiousty, why the hate for Chuck? His fights are always exciting, he will fight anyone, and never trash talks. Is it because of his relationship with Dana or is it because he looks like Sloth from the Goonies.
by bnf on Jun 13, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a lot of it is because of Dana. So many people hate Dana White and his man crush for Chuck doesn’t help Chuck’s reputation. Also, Chuck was the champ while the whole MMA scene was blowing up. When you are at the top people want to see you fall.
I love Chuck for the reason’s you stated. He’s respectful of his opponents, he delivers good fights and he will fight anyone the UFC puts in front of him.
by RealDrew on Jun 13, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s the #1 trash talker of kimbo, so what exactly do you mean no trash talk?
by kevin on Jun 13, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Chuck will fight anyone?? Bring on Thiago Silva or Machida
by yoda on Jun 13, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I was refering to his pre-fight interviews. It is basically always the same thing in the same tone, “I am going to knock him out”. I love him for that. As far as Kimbo is concerned, do you really think Chuck is the only one talking trash. I gaurentee there are several veteran fighters who have said behind closed doors they would KO this newbee Kimbo. Chuck is the only one that was quoted publicly.
by bnf on Jun 13, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
A little bit because he didn’t fight Machida, but mainly because all of my buddies are always rooting for him, so I like to root against him. It just stuck lol.
by Toms Bombs on Jun 13, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Talking about Kimbo isn’t trash talk it’s true and most people would agree. Kimbo might be a cool guy, but the only reason he is poplular is because of YouTube. He hasn’t done anything in MMA to get the press he gets. I’d be talking crap about Kimbo too if I were a fighter. Thes guys work their asses off and get 5K while some youtube streetfighter comes in and gets paid 150k and gets all the media attention.
by RealDrew on Jun 13, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention, is there anyone left on planet Earth that doesn’t think Chuck would absolutely kill Kimbo? Chuck is a badass. I didn’t like him years ago, but after a while there was just no denying his toughness. In my opinion, Chuck vs. Wandy was the most exciting fight I have ever seen. Big hands and bigger hearts.
by naturalshadow on Jun 13, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Horrible matchup who cares!!!! Chuck beats Wandy looked great and now he takes a step down. I agree sooooooo many more fights out there. Worse part is the fight was already cancelled and now we have to hear about it again for the next four months!!!!!!
by Robert on Jun 13, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, I really think their testing Rashad’s ability on this more so giving Chuck an ‘easy’ win. I’m a fan of Rashad personally (I’ve seen him fight live) but he does get kind of boring. That’s just his fighting style, I thought Machida was boring vs. Tito.
I think if Rashad wins this, he’d fight Machida/Silva or maybe straight to a title fight. I think if Chuck wins he will either fight Machida or go straight to title fight.
I think they want to see if Rashad can really hang with the big guys that have the potential of winning the belt and keeping his record undefeated.
If not, who knows? Maybe he’ll drop down like Bisping and bring competition to Middleweight. Rashad is still too small in LHW, in my opinion.
by MMAFan331 on Jun 17, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
nooooo!!!!!!
i want to see chuck vs shogun, damn it!!!
by CBfighter on Jun 13, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
As far as I can remember during th Q&A session before the UFC 85 weigh in, Chuck said he would likely be fighting Rashad in September, then again in December, possibly Shogun or Wandy.
by Adam on Jun 13, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
why would he fight wandy again? he should fight shogun after he kills evans. chuck vs. shogun and wandy vs. evans on the same card in december. that would be good.
by CBfighter on Jun 13, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they need to give Shogun somebody less dangerous than Chuck first. Let Chuck fight Rashad who is no pushover, more than likely get a win. Then let Shogun get his win, and that would make a Chuck/Shogun fight that much better. IMO if they fight now coming off of injuries we, wont see the best of both fighters, then there will be alot of excuses. Let them get back in the mix and then go at it 100%.
by JV on Jun 13, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Im going on what Chuck himself said, unlike a lot of crap you hear, so feel free to ask him that. My guess would be that a)The first fight was immense, b)It went to decision, c)Everyone wants to see it, d)It will make a boat load of money, shall I go on?
by Adam on Jun 14, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much the easiest stepping stone for a title shot for chuck.
Would have much prefered to see Chuck vs Shogun.
This is a bad matchup for Rashad, he won’t be able to secure the takedown and Chuck will dominate the standup.
This leads me to wonder who’s next for Shogun… Machida anyone?
by Nick J on Jun 13, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
But if Chuck wins, who really wants to see him get KO’ed by Rampage for a third time?
by chefdaddy on Jun 13, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Who wants Rampage Chuck 3??? Dana White, enough said.
by Nick J on Jun 13, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know about you guys, but I would rather see Wandy vs. Rampage 3 then I would Chuck vs. Rampage 3. Just two cents. It’s obvious though that Dana is working towards Chuck getting the title again.
by Tricky Nick on Jun 13, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida wouldn’t rape anybody.
Machida will use his ninja like stealth to avoid being hit woooaaaaaaoooooowwww (in my best Bruce Lee voice) :)
by Automation on Jun 13, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That is funny!!! That is the same thought I had after reading Insin’s comment.
Machida “game plan” may make Shogun tap from all chasing but I don’t see Machida raping anyone. After the Tito fight, I don’t care if I never see another Machida fight!!!!
by macmma on Jun 13, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys like Machida are exactly why my favorite fighter is Wandy. What ever happen to standing toe to toe with someone and banging it out like a man. He runs Calib starnes style but the only difference is that he actually lands some shots in the process. I don’t think Mahcida can beat anyone fighting like a man. Instead he runs like a girl. Sorry Ladies.
by jimmy_dean on Jun 13, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
wait a minute – i thought i was on an mma site here? you guys sound like your rippin machida, r u mad? Machida is packed full of talent – his style is one that no one can copy. A champ in the making – mark my words. You must respect the kung fu style : )
by Insain on Jun 13, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would respect it if he used something other than jab two steps back. Another job 3 steps backwards. If he want to compete in MMA he better start fighting and not running. Chuck is a counterstriker but he will floor you with it.
by yoda on Jun 13, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If Machida stood and banged he would be destroyed. Its not his style. Why go against what has worked thus far. Now that would be stupid. And to even put Kalib Starnes in the same sentence with Machida is just plain Wrong. There is no comparison. Running cause your scared to get hit is Kalib status. Machida Sticks and moves constantly, waiting for you to slip up, frustrating the hell out of the oponent cause they cant hit him while he tags them to his hearts content.
by TrueMMA on Jun 13, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida is the most boring big name fighter in the LHW division right now next to Rashad Evans, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz , I don’t care who either of them fight next as long as they lose.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Insain: I thought Machida practices Karate? And yea he is talented, but has no killer instinct. Machida to me is a better version of Kalib Starnes.
by JV on Jun 13, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont expect The dragon to lose any time soon
by TrueMMA on Jun 13, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Shogun should be ready by NYE … and Chuck pulled the September and NYE show last yr so its still possible
by eazye on Jun 13, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
what the hell happened to that so called big announcement that was supposed to take place yesterday. the one dana kept quiet even from his employees. sure to God it wasn’t the toy dolls that they talked about earlier this week
by bigbadbrad on Jun 13, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
i sincerely hope it is the HBO deal, would be absolutely perfect for the sport and for the fans. Instead of 12 or so ppv’s a yr, most of them could be aired live on HBO, and the really big cards with title fights/superfights etc would be on ppv, also like boxing, they could air the PPV’s for free a week or two after on HBO…last weeks card is the perfect type of card for a live HBO show, better than a UFN but not quite 50 worthy…anybody know why comcast in MA doesn’t offer PPV’s in HD?
by Crowls on Jun 13, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I read an artical that the UFC was getting sanctioned in NY. Dana was so sure that it would pass that he said thursday. Supposedly it got delayed so thats why its tuesday now.
by JV on Jun 13, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the rest of ya’ll, this is a bad fight for rashad. Yes, his stand up has improved, but improving from a wrestlers standup is not hard, and if Rashad plans on bangin’ with chuck he is in for a very painful night. Besides Couture and Rampage, chuck is as close to “impossible” to take down as it gets. I definitely am seriously excited about a shogun/liddell fight, but as Nick J pointed out, could we see Shogun/Machida? That would be such an awesome fight as well. Either way, I’m definitely stoked!
by MMAsubb on Jun 13, 2008 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
“Awesome” isn’t the word I would use on that one, Machida’s just gonna run = /
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
and just to elaborate a bit, out of 13 fights in his MMA carreer Machida has only finished 5, booooorrrringggg.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with much of what’s been said.
Hey, what happened to the mind blowing surprise Dana had for us this Thursday? Don’t tell me that it in fact was the action figure deal!
by rhv on Jun 13, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
apparently it was pushed back to next week.
by sickshotbri on Jun 13, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think with Shogun coming off such a serious injury they may give him a tune up fight first like with Sokoudjou whose been talking a lot of trash. I know they hyped Shogun as one of the best LHW’s in the world. so they might want to show him smashing someone to the casual fans, who may not know him ,except for his Forrest Griffen. performance and that hardly shows the true Shogun.
I’d like a Wanderlei Machida fight.
by getrawbc on Jun 13, 2008 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
I think a tune up fight would be a good idea. Maybe a guy like James Irvin.
by bnf on Jun 13, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop talking about Anderson Silva fighting Chuck Liddell, what the hell is wrong with him dominating middleweight for years??? The other divisions have great champions. Middleweight has one too, why mess that up?
by Ballam on Jun 13, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
I totally agree and I’m pretty sure Dana White does too. Why threaten the domination AND pure marketability of two of your biggest named champs in Chuck and GSP by letting silva move around weight classes. I don’t see it happening.
by MMAsubb on Jun 13, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i take it you dont have many fights where your from – true fighters always want to fight a bigger stronger man – they never want to test the same level comp over n over again, wake up dood, its pretty much common sense.
by Insain on Jun 13, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont agree with some of the posts about this fight, i think it is a good match up! its a big test for the young rashad, and a massive opportunity to stake his claim to be one of the top 205s. If chuck wins, which i think is likely then a fight against the winner of machida vs shogun for the number one contender slot would be awesome.
a fight against shogun for machida would be a big test . i want to see him push the pace a little and stop fighting so strategically, he needs to start fighting to kill (the fight) instead of fighting for the win, otherwise he will never be a star and make the big dolla.
long live chuck
and good luck forest
by GNP on Jun 13, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
So, does Wandy fight Rampage while this is going on? Rampage is fighting 2 months before Chuck/Evans. The title has been held up for 10 months right now and I don’t want to see Rampage sitting on the sideline until April 2009 while 4 guys have a mini-tournament to see who the #1 contender is at LHW. It’s not that I dislike the fights you put up there, but the champ needs to be in action.
by Matthew on Jun 13, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
let rashad get knocked out by tiagio silva so chuck can fight machida for title shot
by mashurst on Jun 13, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
so many better matchups…and what a waste to see one of my favorite fighters have to take on another TUF contestant and hopefully not lose this time….
by Chadx23 on Jun 13, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
What a pussy. Please dont tell me you deserve a title shot after this. Fight a top contender then maybe. Politics, politics………..
by Harry Triangle on Jun 13, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
Either your talking about, Anderson Silva, Thiago Silva or Wanderlei Silva, none of which are push overs, please stop smoking crack/snorting cocaine before you make a post and think before you open your stupid mouth
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
O damn he got caught, (I say as I shake my head in dissapointment) considering the original post was about Chuck being a pussy and Haze mentioned Silva was no push over, why don’t you do the math on who is is talking about. It is obvious to me you are smoking crack. Furthermore, if Haze could merely open his mouth to create a post I need to ask him where he bought that device.
by bnf on Jun 13, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the response bnf, really nothing I need to say about his reponse now, you covered it, LOL.
by Haze on Jun 13, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Chuck will get a title shot after he knocks Evans out and even if it goes the distance somehow Liddell will get the decision….i agree Liddell should fight someone bigger however i want Evans to get his ass kicked at the same time…
by XxXFactor on Jun 13, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
Im not super excited about it, but I can’t argue with this matchup. All undefeated fighters eventually have to have that marquis matchup that proves whether or not they belong at the elite level, and this is that fight for Rashad. I can’t see Chuck fighting Shogun in December though. Shogun will have been on the shelf for a long time by that point, and most casual fans aren’t all that interested in him. The UFC will give him a couple fights he can win to build his name before they put him in with a top notch guy like Chuck. I think Lyoto already has the Page/Forest winner, a bonus thank you from Dana for making Tito look outclassed in his last fight.
by efisher on Jun 13, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
I wish they would redo Irvin vs Evans, I really liked that match up. Then have Liddell fight Tiago Silva, Machida or Soku. IMO Liddell vs Evans is the worst choice of possible match ups.
by Haze on Jun 13, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
I know! Who cares about Rashad, IMO he should go Middleweight (with Bisping) and let the big boys fight….Shogun, Soku, Wanderlei, Thiago Silva, Machida, Liddell, etc. There’s absolutely no room for Rashad.
by MikeD on Jun 13, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
And that is exactly why he is a pussy. Meow.
by Harry Triangle on Jun 13, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
matt hammil should be ready to fight around 88, he could fight rashad or soko or something?
by markg on Jun 13, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
They should match up irvin vs evans, wandy vs shogun, chuck vs machida that would set up some great fights
by Curt K. on Jun 13, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
fukin bullshit……. got me all excited and hyped up with chuck’s fight… rashad evans? common
by mr.rice-a-roni on Jun 13, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
Give me Wandy Chuck 2, Chuck vs Anderson Silva, or Chuck Jardine 2.
by DB on Jun 13, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
Yea I would really like to see Chuck avenge that loss, he wasn’t himself that night.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I really thought that Chuck/Jardine was the most likely fight. It makes the most sense. Jardine deserved a title shot, but instead got his ass kicked by Wandy. Wandy can’t get a title shot after only 1 win, ao maybe put him against Evans. Chuck and Jardine would be a great number one contender fight. If Chuck wins, he avenges his loss and deserves a shot for beating Jardine and Wandy. If Jardine wins, then he goes back to deserving his title shot that he was kinda robbed of.
by naturalshadow on Jun 13, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i know u will all hate on me cause u all love over-rated chuck but how much u wanna bet when him and dana were laying in bed talking bout who he should fight thiago silvas name didn’t come up,,cause they both know chuck wouldnt see round 2 vs thiago…hey chuck way to take on a joke u over-rated bum why not jus fight jason lambert or elvis sinosic
by juggalomike on Jun 13, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
I love this fight.
Rashad deserves more credit than he gets here. He won the TITO FIGHT easily and the judges scored it a draw.
He destroyed Stephan Bonner and Brad Imes and somehow still came away with split decisions.
Rashad likes to stand and trade and so does CHUCK. Rashad has good wrestling and Chuck has superior take down defense.
The main advantage here is CHUCK has KNOCKOUT POWER. Sure RASHAD kick Salmon’s head off but I haven’t seen the knockout power in his hands yet.
by Wesley on Jun 13, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
I would like to see Lidell vs. Shogun, Machida vs. Thiago, Rashad vs. Wander and Soko vs. Irvin. Then have Bonner fight Houston instead of ravishing red.
by UFCAddict on Jun 13, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions
Shogun re-injured his knee (the one that he had surgery) on, so who knows, when Shogun will be back.
by Tim Lee on Jun 13, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
I am taking Evans in this fight. I think he will execute his game plan, of leg kicks then takedowns.
Remember Rashad Evans and Keith Jardine are best friends, and they train together at the same camp underneath the Greg Jackson Submission Fighting banner. This is a tough match up for Liddell.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Jun 13, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
its not a tough match up…clearly Chuck was off when he fought Jardine, look what Wanderlei did to him and then look what Chuck did to Wanderlei. I would LOVE to see Chuck vs Jardine II, but the UFC has already thrown Jaridne to the wolves and to make him fight Chuck again after coming off of his 2nd DEVASTATING KO loss out of his last 3 fights….that would just look bad lol. Let Chuck KO Rashad and then sit back and reevaluate the other matches that have taken place by then and go to step 2, which I hope isnt Rampage vs Chuck for the title on NYE….Unless Forrest beats Rampage, I do not want to see Chuck fight for the title after beating Rashad…if he does of course
by Chadx23 on Jun 13, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Its a very weak main event.I’m thinking Anderson Silva vs Okami might be a co-main event.Surely its time for another Anderson beat down.
by Jack on Jun 13, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
Rashad will be knocked out. Save your 44.95 for gas or groceries. :)
by Ktown on Jun 13, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
The more fights for Chucky the better keep him active. I think alot of the pride stars suffered when they went from fights every 2 months to fighting every 4-8.
by shaze on Jun 13, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
This is a pretty weak main event, especially so soon after the shitty 85 card. Personally I don’t think a show is a show without a championship fight. And with 5 champions, I can’t really understand why they have trouble booking one title fight per month. Really, its TUF champion-coach situation that makes it this way.
If they put Silva/Okami on this card, I think that would make it satisfactory. Even another Machida fight (I’d rather not wait 6 months to see him fight again) would be good, especially if they put him against Thiago Silva.
by KneeToTheFace on Jun 13, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
silva vs okami is in oct in england
and for dec super card, there never has been one
if anything lidell vs shogun and
mir vs big nog
with maybe a serra vs hughes if we are lucky
by bryant on Jun 13, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
this fight sucked before chuck got injured and wait….
it still sucks
by AJ on Jun 13, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
weak main event??? way better den 85’s main event.
by ✰Pretty Boy✰ on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions
Chuck love’s to fight, and I love to watch him fight. I say bring it on, and I can’t wait to see it.
by bisnatch on Jun 13, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
I heard a rumor a while back that Dana White has Chuck nights..I guess he sits in his bed in his Chuck Lidell PJ’s, and watches his DVD’s of past fights….It gets stranger though….He eats a lot of ice cream, chocolate and has his butler ink a fake tatoo on the side of his dome…Strange. with that said, I can’t stand Rashad and can’t wait till Chuck rips of Shad’s arm and beats himself senseless with it…
by Dana Rulezzzz on Jun 14, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
Well im not ogna say much for the chuck vs rashad matchup since rashads a dead man walkin, especially since hes an obsitcale between the title and chuck. but yea, machida vs chuck would be good. i think chuck would win it. machidas great, but chucks different then a lot of the fighters machidas faced. tito bull charges, thats a fact, and machida counters. it works well. but when u have somone like chuck who can go offensive and put people away OR stay defensive and put people away, and knows when to switch between the two, u have a powerful enemy. and chuck wont tap out from a submisison (or at least thats what his one submisison loss showed.) i fully respect that machida is gona be a nasty guy at 205 someday, i think he should fight somone else first before wandy or chuck. like give him hendo or somthing. i personally think before a fighter can transform into a monster, they need to taste defeat. all the best have. once u lose and finally see somone thats better than u, one of two things always happen. you look at it and start getting worse and worse and will never be the same, or (in the case of chuck, gsp, anderson silva, etc) you ocme back with more fire to get back at what u want and truly become the best.
by MMA_Metalhead on Jun 17, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
Chucks a pussy huh? So knocking out tito,randy and sobral 2 times and horn,mezger and overeem and randleman makes u a pussy?
And beating monson,belfort and bustamante 2 boot..oh yea and beating wandy makes u a bitch 2 right?? The guy doesn’t duck people,only fight he ever asked 4 was his horn rematch and his ufc 40 renato fight 2 stay in shape(that alone makes u a tough as nails sob) so please unless u could whoop his ass shut the hell up.
by iceman on Jun 19, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve been saying for nearly a year now that Rashad Evans would knockout Chuck liddell…now i finally get to see it…..Randy Couture said it best himself…Randy said Chuck would never have the skills to beat a man like Rampage or Rashad…Couture has trained with Evans and Randy said Rashad would beat Chuck with ease…EVANS Has the better boxing skills and he’s the much better wrestler…Chuck has a history of coming into fights out of shape…He throws a few punches and moves around…Rampage was able to catch him clean and knock him out…I can tell you this…Rampage is NO WHERE close to being as fast or as explosive as Rashad…This will be a very bad fight for Chuck…Evans by brutal Knockout in the second round….I don’t see any one in the light Heavy division beating Rashad….You guys are really hating on Rashad..and to say Evans doesn’t have knockout power…Just ask the fella’s whose tasted his fists…Brad Imes was getting knocked down all over the place and everyone knows Liddell has ABSOLUTELY NO CHIN and i think Chucks power is VERY OVERRATED…Hell he couldn’t even knockout Glass Jaw Jardine….Chuck always gets caught in fights…Rampage caught him and Jardine as slow as Keith punches…He was able to catch Chuck and drop him….Rashad Evans is very explosive and i’m gonna say he’s the most explosive fighter chuck has ever had to face…Rashad is gonna seriously hurt Chuck and this will be the end of Liddell’s career….People who say Rashad can’t take chuck down…should look at what Ramapage and Randy couture was able to do to chuck….Randy said it best…..when he said Evans would be champion in about 2 years…Time has come and Rashad is gonna destroy chuck…just you wait and see..
by Rod on Jun 22, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
thank you rod just watch the face of all these HOMO chuck fans when his head hit the mat!!!
by London Jones on Jun 23, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I would kinda like to see a anderson silva chuck fight. It would be stand up no doubt. But the thing is, the more i watch fights, people try to beat anerson at stuff he does or is good at doing. He is a reletivly orthodox striker, and he beats mostly other orthodox strikers. Your not going to beat silva at somthing he does just as well. What i think chuck has is somthing threatning to silva. the truth is silva hasnt fought too many guys with extremely heavy hands. He also hasnt fought guys who are unorthodox strikers. Chuck is a long, lanky guy, like silva. Chucks hands r, no doubt, some of the best in MMA. And Where as anderson silva IMO is the best striker with and ORTHODOX style (his Muy thai is pretty orthodox,) chuck is the best Striker in an UNORTHODOX style. Silvas good everywhere, thats a fact. The way u oculd beat him is not doing somthing beter than he does, but doing it differently and equally as good as he does. Chuck throws punches from any and every angle. Chucks knocked guys out without having to throw his whole power into it. Silva looks like his chin is overly tough. I think it be a great fight personally. As for the rashad fight, no wrestler (save rampage, but hes mor eof a brawler,) has beat chuck since he lost to corture. I doubt an average wrestler who wins most of his fights by split decision is going to beat somone like liddell. And dont expect rashad to head kick liddell.
by MMA_Metalhead on Aug 11, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions

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