I pretty much agree with everyone said by Leites.

Thats low. Marquardt got screwed. I gave Leites the first round. Marquardt the second, and third. The only legit penalty was the knee. So the fight shoulda been a draw.

Leites should man up and give Marquardt another shot. Leites has no chance against Silva.

Leites vs Bisping sounds good to me… winner would be one big fight from a title shot.

I’m on the fence with this one, although I can see where he’s coming from because he is loonking for a title shot, he didn’t accomplish a win against marquart. I’d rather have them go into a rematch, but I understand thales. Hey, if anything nate should just have gone by the rules and shouldn’t have left it for the judges to score… Can’t blame anyone but nate himself.

i totally agree with Nick. but i also want to see
bisbing get his ass killed. not literally but throw someone good at him. like leben or leites. or cote or almeida(?)

Leites vs the winner of Cote/Almeida..would be intresting.

i like nate but i do agree with leites, now on the other hand i think vera should get a rematch with werdum

did everyone forget about kampman

heres how i see the next contender:

winner of leites v bisping against winner of cote v almeida gets the title shot

Leites is right, he could have been badly hurt.

i wanted to see leben vs bisping so bad! that would have been a better fight then jason day.

bull crappeth – he did one illegal thing … the knee while being downed. I think that was only becuase he was on his way up. Ridiculous.

why is the piledriver illegal?? a fighter shouldn’t be capable of doing that to his opponent anyways, but if a fighter thinks he can do that to his opponent, then why not. just like with wandy silva’s old fashion rape choke on jardine, some said that was illegal. why??? if he wants to risk leaving his arm open for an armbar to choke a guy, he should be able to. what’s a front hand choke any different from a rear naked choke. it’s a choke hold. what’s a pile driver any different those rampage or matt hughes slams. a choke is a choke and a slam is a slam no matter how they’re administered!!! it might be embarassing for a fighter to get pile drived or front choked, as it should, those manuevers shouldn’t work on elite fighers, but it shouldn’t be illegal

Its called spiking and it is in the rules and is illegal. Big John was on the fight network talking about the need for standardized reffing and the inconsistency from ref to ref, and in the case of the bald bastard inconsistency from fight to fight. Marquart should be suspended and if he does stuff like that again booted rtfo. He is a boring crap fighter anyways. He was losing and desparate and pissed off for losing points and he had total disregard for leites. Sure it looked cool, but he could have broke his neck.

You guys are crazy, he almost got murdered in that fight, Nate is a beast. It’s obvious he dodging him cause he knows a rematch he would get broken in half.

ok yes he didn’t deserve the win because of illegal moves. but for someone to say leites was winning the fight throughout is ridiculous. But sure, after leites’ showing ,let him get in line with the rest of the poor saps being fed to the silva machine. Doesn’t matter really, Almeida will make cote black out then show the same courtesy to leites is quick fashion. Earning a blackbelt in BJJ is very difficult and impressive as is, Almeida got his 3rd strip blackbelt this past march, that is just insane.

I loved the outcome of this fight.

I’m sick of the way this shit usually turns out:

“Watch the back of the head. Watch the back of the head. Watch the back of the head. Ok, next time I’m taking away a point…. Don’t grab the fence. Don’t grab the fence, Don’t grab the fence… gong Look, tell you fighter, next time he does that, I’m taking away a point. Watch that upkick! Watch that…”

All the assholes fighting dirty know they can usually get away with multiple fouls before the ref does anything. On top of that, they know that even if they hurt their opponent really badly with a foul, 9 times out of 10 he’s not going to say he can’t continue (out of fear of hurting his career, the desire to show “heart”, and so on) and will instead go out and fight hurt, making for an easy TKO.

So fuck them, and I for one hope we’ll see more quick and decisive calls on illegal blows, so that dickheads like Marquardt no longer have the incentive to play the odds in this way.

Almeida is going to get a title shot after he subs Cote. Lutter did it quite easily, so it will be even easier for Almeida. Bisping will then fight Cote, and Thales will fight Kampmann with the winner of that possibly getting the next title shot of the winner of Spider vs. Almeida. I don’t think the UFC knows what they want to do with Okami. Maybe give him Hendo if Hendo loses to Franklin.

Yeah Marquardt was definetely winning the fight, but I don’t think it’s even debatable that he lost the first round. Then he scored to fouls to make the last two 9-9 rounds. So good decision.

It sucks for Nate, but you know he looked like a really dirty fighter. It looked like Nate was fightig with his own set of rules and Leites was stuck with UFC rules.

I think you need to dismiss Nate’s dominance in the later rounds as well because Leites did not look like the same fighter after that knee. He looked like he was on rubber stilts from that point on.

I don’t blame Leites for avoiding a rematch. Who wants to fight soem bar-room-brawler that has no respect for the rules.

Just wondering: Why do fans, viewers give a shit about a piledriver when everyone knows that A) Marquardt KNEW he was gonna get screwed out of the match; there were only 8 seconds left and B) it looked cool as shit?? Seriously, Nate got screwed. The knee screwed up the fight, blah blah blah. No it didn’t. Yeah, he hit Almeida after he got choked in Pancrase. Who cares? It was “legal” to piledrive in Pride, but since it’s illegal in the UFC it makes the fighter a bar room fighter? Nate is a fantastic middleweight. His knee was a second off. Leitas is avoiding the rematch b/c he couldn’t beat Nate, even more so he stands no chance against Bisping. WAR NATE!!

cote wins by easy submission 1st rd over almeida. :)

Nate beat the snot out of him. Second point was bs. Tombstone was frustration. Thales can take a lickin’ and keep on tickin’ but Anderson will KO him inside 3 minutes.

Thales knows he’d lose to Nate if they fought again. Fair enough he droppped Nate but he couldn’t do anything and Nate recovered and was back dictating the fight by the end of the round. If it was Pride we’d all be calling Nate a total badass…Yes it’s not Pride okay okay.

Tombstone is reprehensible though. Highly illegal but very entertaining as Thales was fine afterwards.

leites is afraid to fight him again. he’s using any excuse he can because he KNOWS he will lose if they fight again. he’s afraid and that’s the worst thing that can happen to a fighter.

it’s too bad Thales Leites is that scared, all it says really is that Leites will never amount to anything relevant. he will never get into contender status, he will never get a title shot, and if by some ridiculous miracle he does get a shot he will blow it out of fear.

Thales Leites is afraid. Thales Leites will never amount to anything relevant as a fighter. Thales Leites is afraid just like a 4 yr old little girl is afraid of thunder. Thales Leites has nothing on a 4 yr old.

watched this fight again on setanta last night.we will never know how bad thales was from the illegal knee but he looked ok.it was the gnp that busted him open and put him on queer street imo.apart from dropping nate in the 1st thales was well beaten and had to rely on an elbow to the side of the head(dodgy point deduction)to win this one.dana should make them fight again herbs point deduction was terrible!

I don’t think Marquardt should be labelled as a dirty fighter due to what happened in this fight. The knee wasn’t meant to be an intentional foul. I saw it as poorly timed. Leites was on his way up but was a split second from having the knee off the ground. Unfortunately, Thales was not the same in the fight after that. We have seen that the elbow wasn’t in an illegal spot.

  As far as the pile-driver, it looked like Leites had hold of a leg with his right arm which prevented him from being lifted fully. It really appeared to me that Marquardt was attempting a big ol’ powerbomb (ala Rampage-style) which would’ve been completely legit. IMO, it was Leites’ defense that held his head underneath him to get dropped on. I just don’t see any of them as dirty tactics and would think a rematch would be fantastic.