maybe you’re right, this card sucks too much for me to care about lol, i wanna see BJ, GSP, or Anderson, anyting else on those cards is a bonus.

Lytle/Koscheck is going to be a treat and Gurgel/Miller will be.. oh wait. Thats on the undercard. We wont see that. That has Decision written all over it.

Lets be honest: Rampage will completely outclass Forrest. There is nothing in mma that Forrest does better then Rampage….There is no way that Forrest can Finish the fight, while Rampage has many different potential ways of taking Forrest OUT! Forrest wont make it to a third round against Page!

I look forward to winning money on Chris Lytle, after he knocks out Koschek!

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I’m just going to go out on a limb and call an upset. A major upset like Forrest TKO’s Rampage. I know Rampage would beat Forrest hands down but again just going out on a limb. I didn’t think Forrest would beat Rua either

Just because Forrest looks like a monkey after a marathon when he breathes doesn’t mean he is really tired. Jacare said in a Sherdog interview that he trains more than anyone at Extreme Colture and specifically said the best part of his game was cardio. This fight will be more competative than most people think.

LMFAO! “Like a monkey after a Marathon?” funny stuff.

So BNF, you read the Jacre interview….It was a good interview wasnt it? I enjoyed it.

Doesnt matter how hard Forrest trains because Rampage has shown the ability to fight hard for 5 rounds, something Forrest has never experienced.

Also Rampage comes from Pride, and in pride, a standard fight was 20 minutes anyway. So Rampage has basically been fighting 20 minute fights for the past 6 or 7 years.

Forrest can not win this fight because he dos not have the ability to Finish Rampage. Lets be serious, who has Forrest ever knocked out? In addition, Rampage has a better chin then anyone Forrest has ever faced. Also, Forrest defense consists of blocking punches with his face, something he can not afford to do when fighting Page. Rampage has ko power in both hands, forrest has a questionable chin. No way in the world that Forrests chin can hold up against one of Rampages nasty hooks, or devestating upper cutts.

Stand up advantage goes to Rampage, by a lot!

Wrestling goes to Rampage

ju jitsu: Even, Rampage’s submission defense is probably better then Forrest’s. Either way this fight will not end in a submission.

When it copmes down to it, this will be the toughest fight of Forrest Griffin’s career, the same can not be said about Rampage.

Rampage and the Unders is the pick here! Hopefully all you TUF fans that dont know any better will throw there money away on Forrest, making the Ramp0age odds even sweeter. No matter what, I am betting really Big on Rampage. Odds dont matter if you know the guy you will bet on WONT LOOSE!!!

Good analyists John. And I generally don’t bet on fights so I’m sorry I can’t help your odds. This is just one of those fights on paper it is all Rampage, but I have not been overly impressed with him and I just have a feeling Forrest will push the pace, tire him out and submit him late in the fight… CB Dollaway submitted him in 30 seconds… LOL!

bnf, Rampage getting caught in that choke was kinda stupid on his part. He was trying to look tough when he tells CB come on lets go, then gets caught and tries to act cool about it and laughs it off.

John, you say Rampage has many more ways to win than Forrest and I was just wondering what the many were? He can knock him out or he can win by decision. Rampage doesn’t use a variety of kicks in his attack and he has next to zero chance of subbing someone. He has said multiple times he doesn’t want to submit someone because he doesn’t want his opponent to come back afterwards and say ’Page was lucky and just caught him.

 Unwillingness to use and ignoring opportunities to win make him suspect in any championship level fight. He is tough as hell, but when he runs up against someone just as tough and athletic as he is, only more intelligent and well rounded he will lose most every time. (That said, I don’t know if this will be the time. I just know that Forrest is willing to win in any method available in front of him.)

Forrest has a snow balls chance in hell, beating Rampage..

There is no need to argue over this fight..

It is easy to see that, Rampage will beat the living daylights out of Forrest….

I love Forrest, but Rampage has come to far, to lose to Forrest..Simply Rampage is on another level..

Rampage .vs. Forrest = Easy win for Page!

Stager Lee: ABSOLUTELY!!! U nailed It! Its pretty simple, Rampage will just Beat Forrest up!

PJJ: What are u talking about Dude? Rampage has a couple of different ways to win. KO from a punch, KO from a knee (Rampage’s Muy Tai is under rated). Ground n Pound, Slam, decision!

How can Forrest win the fight? Only man to ever submit Rampage was Sakuraba, in Page’s 1st Pride fight. He has fought some tough submission machines and never got caught in a submission like Arona, Bustamante, Ninja….u really think Forrest is going to submit him? Lets be REAL! Rampage just slams his way out of most submissions anyway.

Rampage has one of the Nastiest Ground n pound in the world. He ground n pounded Chuck into submission in their 1st fight. Rampage is one of the best in the world at attacking the body with punches, elbows and knees during his ground n pound assaults. His supperior wrestling helps him control the fighter who’s ass he is whooping up on! He has out-wrestloed top guys like: Lindland, Henderson, Chuck, Arona.

Bottom Line, forrest is in big trouble!!

lol unfourtantly.

thanks John, soon everyone will see as we do :)

Linx: Trust me on this, you are 100% CORRECT!!

Linx, my reason for saying Forrest has a big chance in this fight is that Rampage has not fought (besides Chuck) a true LHW. Eastman was a MW and so was Hendo. We all see how small Hendo is compared to the LHW’s. The Chuck fight didnt last long enough to see how Rampage would deal with a true LHW. But I can give you an excuse (Chuck dominated the division so long that he wasnt hungry when he fought Rampage)(And he didnt take Jardine serious) Look IMO Forrest is a true LHW, the dude is big, thats why I think he’ll give Rampage problems.

JV, size doesn’t mean they’ll win the fight, look at wandy vs jardine. and excuses that a person’s mind was not 100% in the fight made by fans such as us doesn’t hold water because we’re implying that it was an issue without it being fact, but a knee injury such as shogun’s is not a guess, it’s a fact! As far as rampage not fighting true LHWs I guess you’re right, if you only count his UFC fights and excludes everything else. I’ve followed rampage for a long time, I know what he’s capable of doing, and I have a pretty good feeling of what’s going to go down in his fight with forrest. Sorry, but to me it’s not going to be even close…

I didnt say size wins linx, I said Forrest’s size will give Rampage problems. To me a mental problem is worse than a physical one, but thats besides the point. All I’m saying is, I think Forrest has a much better chance at winning than people give him credit for. All these comments have been posted before, Forrest has no chance against Shogun, Wandy will destroy Chuck, I think john said Davis would KO Swick, Penn would submit Hughes in there second fight, Serra has no chance at GSP in there first, you get my point?

JV, I know where you’re coming from, upsets do happen in MMA and it happens quite often. The thing is, if I were to bet money on the matter, I’d bet rampage for what I know what he’s capable of than forrest. Rampage has just more ‘weight’ on this issue to me, he is the favorite but an upset is not impossible and we all know that. But if I was to bet, I’d bet my house on page :)

BTW, what I meant about the mental issue is that we make these things up for the fighters, chuck to my knowledge never came out and said he didn’t take page and jardine seriously (if he did I would lose a lot of respect for the guy). But the fans were the ones who said this. So we’re making excuses for them, while an injury is not a guess as it is with the mental issue, it’s a fact.

Speaking of Serra-GSP, I still haven’t come across anyone who predicted the winner in both fights. The guys that picked Serra to beat GSP in the first match also picked him to win the second match. Anybody know any different?

linx, I’m glad you said upsets happen, so why all the Forrest is getting massacred? So you agree Forrest has a better chance than people say right? And I understand completely on the betting part cause I’m not betting on Forrest, but I do want him to win. I’m not one to make excuses for fighters if I’m a fan. I’ll always give credit were credit is do.

JV, I’m still going to say rampage is going to destroy forrest, but there is always a chance for upstes (this is why I’m not the betting type)!

PJJ, I’m not going to debate this again, to me a knee injury is much worse than a shoulder injury but this debate is old and done for. I’m just glad shogun is recovering and might be fighting chuck next, and when he beats chuck the loss to forrest is not going to matter much anymore because by then he’ll have lost to page :)

Linx: I would have ended the argument a long time ago. U r a patient man! Good luck trying to talk some sense into those 2. I gave up on JV a long time ago!

You’re funny nat!! ICP does suck snatch!

You must be out of breath with all that yelling

haha ima start sayin that all the time.

He says wierd sh*t all the time, and in that chpimnk voice makes it all the more funny!!

absolutely awesome analogy!