UFC 85 recap of 'Bedlam' and final thoughts

In the end, UFC 85: "Bedlam" at the O2 Arena in London, England, on June 7 was put together with Scotch tape and chicken wire -- the fight line up endured perhaps the most last-minute changes and adjustments than any other in recent memory.
But that didn't stop it from being an absolute treat to watch.
The main card fights delivered. In fact, this writer was a perfect 0-5 in our prefight predictions, preview and analysis post. I'll chalk that up to solid match-making and evenly-matched fighters and not a case of total retardedness.
And, after taking some time to check out the preliminary bouts, it's clear that UFC 85 had solid action from bottom to top.
Put simply, it was a good card.
In the main event of the evening, Thiago Alves tooled Matt Hughes much like Georges St. Pierre did at UFC 79: "Nemesis." Hughes looked slow and was unable to execute his gameplan at all. He telegraphed his shots and couldn't keep the Brazilian down even when he was able to secure the takedown.
Alves found his groove in the second frame and lit up the former champion like a Marley-sized spliff. It actually reminded me of Ken Shamrock getting thrashed by Tito Ortiz at UFC 61: "Bitter Rivals."
Here's the deal: Hughes deserves a tremendous amount of credit for doing essentially everything that is asked of him. He's like that best friend who you know will always help you move, paint the house or bail you out of jail at 4 a.m. the morning of his daughter's baptism.
He'll never say no.
But there comes a time when you've got to stop asking him to do you favors. And that's exactly what UFC President Dana White needs to do. Throughout the press conference Hughes directed all the questions about his future to White.
Why?
It's time for Hughes to cash-in on all the goodwill he's provided throughout his years of service. He should call the shots from here on out. Hughes has a fight with Matt Serra essentially guaranteed. He should take that fight and then perhaps one more against a guy like Dennis Hallman.
Hopefully, he can get some revenge, pad his pockets and ride into the sunset and go out to stud on his farm in class.
As for Alves, he looked fantastic. Even though he claims an injured ankle is the reason he didn't make weight, it's still reprehensible. There's no way White and Co. can trust him to headline another show for possibly a championship until he proves he can hit 170 pounds without any problems.
I'd say give him Josh Koscheck, Mike Swick or Diego Sanchez next. In fact, a showdown with the "Nightmare" would be a great way to get him back in the spotlight after a disappointing 2007 fight campaign and possibly a win over a top guy like Alves.
In the co main event, Michael Bisping simply outclassed and outworked an overmatched Jason Day. "The Count" looks great at 185 pounds and is actually closer than we think to a title shot.
If he can defeat Chris Leben in his next bout -- and then perhaps someone like Thales Leites -- then it would be hard to argue that he is undeserving.
Either that or give him the winner of Patrick Cote and Ricardo Almeida -- that would be a big step toward a bout with Anderson Silva sometime soon.
Day showed a ton of heart last night, but he was totally dominated in every aspect of the bout. He got some nice notoriety for taking this fight, which he can hopefully use to his advantage to come back stronger.
Perhaps a full-time commitment to training would be the answer that gets Day over the top.
Mike Swick looked sharp and "quick" during his welterweight showdown with Marcus Davis. It was a far cry from that trainwreck that was his 170-pound debut against Josh Burkman.
The long reach and wirey frame of the former middleweight contender were really visible against the "Irish Hand Grenade." Swick was able to use it and basically do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted to do it.
In addition, his aggressive approach was also visible, which is a Swick trademark. He seems to be on the road back and he wasn't given any cream puffs to ensure his welterweight experience was a successful one.
Expect more of the same going forward.
Davis has now returned to Earth after a cosmic mind boggling 12-fight win streak. He needed this win to prove that he belonged in the top contender discussions. It's hard to predict where he will go from here.
He is still an exciting and talented fighter who can end a fight at literally any second. Davis needs to continue fighting the upper echelon of the division ... why not Karo Parisyan in August?
Perhaps that's too soon but you get the idea.
Thales Leites proved once again that he can endure a drubbing and hang with the best at 185 pounds. He did it against Martin Kampmann at The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) Finale back in 2006 and he did it again last night against Nate Marquardt.
And this time he came away with the win.
Sure, Marquardt received two point deductions -- one for an illegal knee to the head of a downed opponent and another lame one for an illegal blow to the back of the head (video replay proved otherwise).
Still, that knee put Leites on queer street and he still decided to soldier on. He could have very well said he couldn't continue rather than continuing to get punched in the face really hard.
Marquardt threw everything at him but the kitchen sink bout still couldn't put him away. And Leites did some damage of his own with some surprising stand up improvements.
This was an action-packed three-round fight that was laced with some controversial moments. I say, in the words of Robbie Lawler, "Let's run it back."
Brandon Vera suffered his second straight defeat and second ever of his career against Fabricio Werdum. This was his "second chance" to prove that he belongs in the heavyweight division after the loss to Tim Sylvia last year.
It wasn't meant to be for "The Truth," getting pounded out in the waning seconds of the opening frame. Werdum achieved full mount and was doing some damage, but Vera seemed to be weathering the storm.
The referee, however, didn't see it the same way, calling a halt to the bout perhaps a bit too soon.
Vera was visibly upset and so were the fans. However, upon further review he was not doing much to improve his position even though he appeared to be "intelligently defending himself."
Regardless, the referee is there to ensure that the fighters remain safe and Vera apparently didn't do enough to show that he could endure any more punishment.
It could have gone either way and in this instance it didn't go Vera's.
That's two strikes for Vera at heavyweight and a tough road back to the top. But it only takes one sensational win to get things going again (see Frank Mir).
He has said he can make the cut to light heavyweight but it seems too crowded right now in the 205-pound class. There's no reason to make the drop at this point, but if he struggles his next time out there may not be another option.
Werdum sets himself up nice for an eventual title shot and rematch against Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira if "Minotauro" can get passed Mir on New Year's Eve weekend.
That's a bit far away to sit idle. Therefore, he should take on the winner of Brock Lesnar and Heath Herring to determine the number one contender to challenge for the strap in early 2009.
Congratulations to Matt Wiman and Antoni Hardonk for taking care of business on the under card portion of the card. Wiman took out a super tough competitor in Thiago Tavares and Hardonk smashed the better than average Eddie Sanchez.
I didn't see those results coming, either.
All in all UFC 85 had just about everything: Upsets, finishes, controversy and storylines that will have an impact in the near future.
For complete blow-by-blow coverage of UFC 85 click here.
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did anyone see the hardonk fight, i’ve been looking everywhere for it. i know he knocked sanchez out, but i was woundering how he looked. plus i said he’d win by ko in the first and i’m wondering why the hell he didn’t lol
by shinbob on Jun 8, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was there, but havent watched since so this may not be the most accurate:
It was a very back and forth fight until the third round when Hardonk opened up. He wasnt kicking or using knees much in the first 2 rounds, but from the few he did throw you could see thats what he needed to do. Sanchez was actually winning the exhanges and probably took the first 2 rounds iirc. Hardonk came out in the third round throwing more leg kicks (and i think a few knees) and finished Sanchez off with about 5 unanswered shots to the chin. A really nice knockout.
by Adam on Jun 9, 2008 6:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts on this weekends UFC………
Well, I must say that this card turned out pretty good all around…
Hughesus vs. Alves-
Wow! Alves is won nasty dude…He lost me some money, but I can’t say I wasn’t impressed with his performance..Before-I liked Alves, but wasn’t a big fan. Now? I am a huge fan, and I can’t wait to see his next fight..I would like to see him a Fitch pt.2.Alves has come a long way since fighting Fitch.
Maybe when GSP beats him, the UFC will set it up?
john; You have been boasting so much over Alves, before and all the way up to this fight..Sure I liked him before, but now I see what you see..The guy is straght up nasty!..btw john’ Hope you had a great B-day dude!! how was your bets?? did you clean up like last time?? I myself lost some money..
Bisping vs. Day.
Damn Bisping is a pure KILLER at 185lbs…He didn’t even give Dooms Day a chance…100% pure ass-whooping..
Davis vs. Swick..
I have to say, as much as I dislike Swick, he did impress me with his fight…He used his length well against Davis, by not letting him get in too close..Swick had a solid game-plan and implied it 100%…I lost a little cash on this fight aswell..
Leites vs. Marquartd…
This was fight of the night imo, or maybe Wimen’s fight was???either one was great!!but I feel robbed in this one because, if Nate didn’t get that 2nd point deducted imo he would of won..Oh well, I only feel robbed cause I lost some cash, i am not a fan of either fighter..But very suprised ’great fight"..
Vera vs. Werdum..
I am a big fan of both, and was in a pickle over how to bet on..Last minute I bet Vera….Bad choice!..Im not saying Vera would of won? but that stoppage was complete BS!!!
That fight was supposed to be the best fight of the night and Dan Mirgliotta ruined it!!Very pissed! the same fool who let Kimbo slide after not defending himself!!!
In my best Ray Finkle’s mother impersonation’
“Dan Mirgliotta should die of gonorrhea! and ROT IN HELL!!!!
aside from Mirgli-bad-calla" the card was good…Some of those pre fights were great!..And I have been telling alot of people to watch out for Luiz Cane….Dude is a bad mofo..that bet saved me from losing alot of money!! That was my highest bet, and the only one I got right..all in all I lost about 25 bucks..Worst betting night ever for me..I usually do alright..
by Stagger-Lee on Jun 9, 2008 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also I almost forgot..
Did anyone else realize that the ‘pile driver" Nate did was 100% illegal!…I am VERY suprised that Joe didn’t say anything..
UFC rules—foul #18 ( illegal-foul)
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
Slams are allowed, but you cant intentionally, slam a fighter directly on his head…
IMO’ Great rule!!!, but they seem not to use it?
by Stagger-Lee on Jun 9, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stager Lee: thanks man, I had a great Birthday. Let me say, I lost $500 on Marcus davis, but I won money on: Werdum, Bisping, Alves, and Leites. Even though I lost $500 on Davis I still ended up making some money on the event, so I cant complain…But if davis would have done what he was supposed to do, I would be a really happy man today!
Happy to hear that someone is starting to understand why I have been raving about Tiago for months now. Like you said, he is just Nasty! People need to realize that takedown defense is a skill that is easy to improve on. For example: Look at how much Machida and Alves takedown defense has improved in their last fights. Just because a guy had bad takedown defense before, it doesnt mean that it wont be improved next time around.
You were absolutely right about Luiz Cane…Thats a bad man right there. You dont just Knock out Lambert unless you are an animal…. Look forward to seeing Cane in action again!
Middle3weights need to take Notice: Bispings a BAD MAN!!!
by john on Jun 9, 2008 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stager Lee: Interesting to read that the PileDriver was illegal./…Good stuff! That was one rule I did not know exsisted!
by john on Jun 9, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
john; As soon as I saw that(piledriver), I thought they were going to stop the fight??
And then I was really suprised that not only the ref, didn’t put two and two together?, but Joe didn’t even say anything?..Joe usually always points stuff like that out….oh well it didn’t kill him.
But about Luiz?, I fully expected him to demolish Lambert..And I bet big…
I have been watching Cane for a while and he is a bad motherfucker. To bad he got cut short in his debut..IMO Irvin was rocked by the knee(DQ), but I think he acted more hurt then he was..imo he knew Cane was going to KTFO, and took the easy way out..
Next time Luiz Cane is on a ppv, he will be on the televised part…..Trust me!
by Stagger-Lee on Jun 9, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure if they ruled that he was “trying” to put him on his stomach. He definitely tried to “level” him out, but it didn’t work and he dropped him on his head. The first thing my wife asked was isn’t that illegal. Good call stagger!
by kevin on Jun 9, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks kevin
Im just suprised that i havn’t heard them talk about it at all..I have watched it a couple more times, and imo Nate looked like he meant to drop him on his head..PileDriver style.
It was pretty cool though..I really liked that fight.
by Stagger-Lee on Jun 9, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stager Lee: I would like to see Cane fight that Croation Kat that schooled Gouiveia next.
Luiz Cane vs. Gorenj Relek = A hard hitting WAR!!!
by john on Jun 9, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st poster, hell yes! lol
my life is complete!
by shinbob on Jun 8, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sucks to be second… haha… wait a minute…
…SUCKS TO BE YOU! hahaha.
by boardRIDER on Jun 9, 2008 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you realize that the first post is his too right?
by shamo84 on Jun 9, 2008 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao, i was waiting for someone to realize that hahaha
by shinbob on Jun 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be betting on Serra that fight. Serra by first snd rd ko
by Al Cook on Jun 8, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a great night of fighting indeed.
by Nokimono on Jun 8, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hope Vera goes down..I think its time to either go down or Bulk up!
by matthew on Jun 8, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about these match ups.
Bisbing vs Franklin
Nate Marquardt vs Dan Henderson
Demain Maia vs Roushamar Pohares
Thales Leites vs Nate Quarry
Martin Kampman vs Patrick Cote/Ricardo Almeida winner
I’m no Joe Silva, but I like all those match ups and good matchups are hard to find in the Middle weight division
PS: theres a small type-o it’s it only takes one, not it only takes on. Sorry for being an ass hole mania. And if I made a type-o in this post plese don’t give me shit. Thanks.
by DB on Jun 8, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don’t see bisping facing franklin, he’ll get owned, i think they’ll match him up with leben and then quarry and then give him a title shot against silva even though he’ll get killed. Other than that great match ups. Also believe me when i say Martin Kampmann will beat Silva for the middlewight strap. call me crazy but i do truly believe that.
by Macho Bullshit on Jun 8, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right, you are crazy. Except for Kampmann beating Silva, I do agree with you though.
by naturalshadow on Jun 9, 2008 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem Franklin has is why make him fight top contenders that he can beat which pushes them out of title contention but does nothing for him because he can’t beat Anderson! Still second best though.
by Robert on Jun 9, 2008 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because if they can’t beat Franklin what makes you think they can beat Silva? Yushin Okami is the next guy getting a title shot and he didn’t beat Franklin. He’s probably not going to beat Silva either. If there isn’t a serious threat to Silva soon I wonder what he’ll do? He doesn’t seem happy with just sitting on his hands.
by Smokes on Jun 9, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
switch out marquardt for bisbing and they’d be good but why would yo want to see Franklin Bisbing,Franklin would destroy Bisbing. Franklin Henderson on the other hand would be a very tough one to call.
by GSP4Prez on Jun 9, 2008 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is right with those. Anyone that wants to fight Anderson Silva shold have to get through Rich Franklin. So in order to have Bisping truly deservant of the title shot he should have to get through Marquardt and Franklin. In 2 years with the UFC he still has yet to fight a real contender. The one real fight he has was Rashad Evans and he walked away with a Loss. I think he was closer to the win on the Rashad fight then the Hamill fight but it is what it is. If he fights Leben next and gets a win he should have to fight a proven contender like Franklin and MArquardt. Silva is top of the food chain and I have still not seen Bisping fight anyone who is worth squat in his illustrious 2 year career of grooming. Franklin is and should be the gatekeeper to Silva.
by Da Monkey on Jun 9, 2008 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m as big a Rich Franklin fan as there is, but forcing anyone who wants a title shot to get through Franklin is ridiculous. Silva and Machida are the only fighters who have ever beaten Franklin, and Henderson (who turns 38 in Aug.) is the only current MW even close to that level right now. If the only way Silva defends his title is after someone beats Franklin then Silva might as well retire the belt now, because ouside of Silva nobody in that division is beating Franklin.
by PW on Jun 9, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i say match Leites up with Okami next for a no#1 contender fight say October. in the mean time the winner of cote/almeida should face anderson in december, that’s if anderson is fighting at LHW next in september whenever, then he should face cote/almeida. joe silva you better be paying attention.
by Macho Bullshit on Jun 8, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone actually SEE the Leites-Marquardt fight? He was owned in every way. He won a split decision cause Marquardt got 2 points deducted, and like it is written above, 1 point was wrongfully taken. That doesnt make you a contender or even puts you in a consideration in anyway. And yes, he was getting owned before the illegal knee too.
The only “good” thing i saw fron him was that he has a a good chin, can take a beating and doesnt quit. But hey, if that makes you a contender i have friend at work who got beat down by 3 bikers. Then went home with broken ribs, broken nose and a broken leftarm, patched himself up and came back swinging a baseball bat with one hand. hahaha. In that case, there´s your contender!
Or hey, whatever… Put him up against Anderson Silva and see how many shots to the head he can take. That wiould be fun to watch… He may even win the bonus for best fight of the night? hahaha
by cmon_chokehim on Jun 9, 2008 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DB made some baad matchups which do not make any sense!!
Mania u made good points on the WW division..
Leites vs okami for #1 MW contender
by XxXFactor on Jun 8, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thiago vs. Sanchez would be a great fight with so much on the line for both! I would love to see that fight and maybe a Sanchez vs. Koz II.
Very nice card on Sat, it was worth every penny (PPV not live for me).
by mac daddy on Jun 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Opps…Sanchez would take both of those fights!!
by mac daddy on Jun 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was saying sanchez vs alves a while ago. it would be a great fight, alves has been on a tear lately and diego (aside from the kos fight) normally puts on exciting and/or dominating performances.
by Sparxx on Jun 8, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez had a staph infection that nearly forced him to retire when he fought Kos. Sanchez is going to crush Luigi at the TUF finale, then he should get to exact a little revenge on Kos, then get a shot at the title.
by PW on Jun 9, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In amateur and collegiate athletics, contestants that do not make weight forfeit the match. I think it should be the same in professional MMA. Fighters are used to being able to come in overweight and still fight. Matt Hughes was forced to fight a middleweight opponent who was obviously much bigger and stronger than him as a welterweight. Historically, no one will remember that Alves had at least 4 more pounds of muscle packed on his body. They will only remember Alves proudly defeating Hughes and essentially ending Hughes’ career. Rather than Hughes leaving the ring defeated, Alves should have forfeited and now be a laughing stock for having squandered the greatest opportunity of his life.
by DrPepper on Jun 8, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forced?? Not so much. And if a dude has to forfeit the day before a fight as mandatory rules you wouldnt have had a main event to watch and all Hughes’s training would be in vain not to mention the backlah from payperview buys and fan dissapointment in general. Instead its up to the opponent of the overweight to decide if the fight should proceed and usually compensation is made by the overweight in the form of paying out part of his purse to the other person win, lose, or draw. So again, forced?? Matt chose to take the fight with some sort of restitution made by Alves. But let me guess, Dana made him do it, Dana Dana Dana right, the evil king!!!! Hughes chose his fate. Period.
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 9, 2008 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought the fights were good i wish i was a betting man i whould have won some money but i played ufc fantasy and placed 10th no money but i won a prize of some sort
by jimmy v on Jun 8, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know, it will never happen, so how about this—a fighter who does not make weight forfeits the winner’s purse, which goes to the fighter who did make weight, regardless of the outcome of the match. The overweight fighter can fight for their pride, but not for the money.
by DrPepper on Jun 8, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“There’s no way White and Co. can trust him to headline another show for possibly a championship until he proves he can hit 170 pounds without any problems.”
Hasn’t he weighed in at 170 his last 5 or6 fights?? Amazing how people forget.
by steve24 on Jun 8, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, Steve24, he hasn’t. Alves weighed in at 171 for his Parisyan fight, and that was after being granted extra time just to make 171 (a non-title fight acceptable weight). Before that, Alves was suspended for 8 months for taking an illegal diuretic that aids in cutting weight. The guy has shown repeatedly he can’t make weight, will cheat to try and do it, and will also show up at a ridiculous 4 lbs over.
by Hardcharger on Jun 8, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All true. I think he is certainly big enough to fight at 185, but like the rest of us, knows he can’t beat Silva. (for the record, I don’t think he can beat GSP either)
by naturalshadow on Jun 9, 2008 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think alves should definitely fight one more top contender before he goes for the belt.
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Jun 8, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t matter how much he weighed at his last fight, only what he weighs at his current fight. A fighter can pack on a lot of muscle in a few months.
by DrPepper on Jun 8, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that Alves will be fighting for the WW title in his next fight. After GSP vs Fitch I think it will be GSP vs BJ Penn (assuming GSP wins). If Fitch should find a way to win the title, Alves may get his chance.
by khemtawe on Jun 8, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Winner Of Cote Almeda gets a title shot.
Watch the trailer
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by Griffin on Jun 8, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like it won’t be against Silva though because he’s moving to light heivyweight.
by GSP4Prez on Jun 9, 2008 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree on the hughes assessment. imo, he should fight three more “money” fights, then call it a career:
hughes/serra (win)
hughes/penn III (loss)
hughes/hallman III (win)
by Eric on Jun 8, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Word to that, 100% corret! Except Hallman aint no cake walk, already subbed hughes 2 times and has wanted to fight him again his entire career to earn the WLWT belt but hughe never gave him the shot, for a reason.
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 9, 2008 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes has improved a hell of a lot more than Hall man has since they last fought. Even though Hughes is not the force he once was, he will definately be too much for Hallman now. It always amazed me how convincingly Hughes destroyed Frank Trigg twice, who has destroyed Hallman twice. I suppose this is an example of how much Hughes improved over the years.
by Ade on Jun 9, 2008 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best recap yet. Marcus vs. Karo would be money. Bedlam was good, man!
by wagnerav on Jun 9, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I like this match-up.it would be a good fight
Karo would be forced to pull out his full arsenal, which imo he does not do…
But espesially after getting KO’d, I would expect Karo to be full force..And Davis aswell will want to be aggresive..
again, good call, this would be a good fight!
by Stagger-Lee on Jun 9, 2008 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alves deserves the next shot at the title.
by Little Focker on Jun 9, 2008 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hang on… Nogueira’s next fight is NEW YEAR’S EVE? Are you kidding?
by zulu9812 on Jun 9, 2008 2:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How does Alves get the next title shot after he didn’t make weight??? they don’t even get the 1 pound leeway in championship fights so he should be punished with one or two more fights just for coming in that heavy when he headlined an event.
by ufcmn89 on Jun 9, 2008 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ Penn will get the next title shot. Period. Alves will get the loser of fitch/GSP (so fitch LoL) or maybe swick at best. No one will be fighting GSP before BJ Penn, dont even bother entertaining other ideas. Dana cant risk GSP losing his belt with the potential mega fight this could be . . Will be i should say. BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 9, 2008 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bedlam got a lot of hate! But it was a good card!
UFC 73? Star Names, 2title defences and was shite!
by braveheart on Jun 9, 2008 5:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
braveheart, I assume you’re scottish???
by Automation on Jun 9, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The truth is, you have to give Hughes credit. In his first loss to GSP, he took the fight on les than 8 weeks rest after a tough win over Penn. Then, he was all set up to fight Serra for an easy return of his belt. Instead, he takes a fight with GSP and gets beat badly. Then he s all set up for a big redemption fight against Serra, and he takes a fight on short notice, in England, against Alves, who does not even make weight. I guarantee you that, if Hughes knew it was a 175 catch-weight fight when he signed, the fight would have looked different.
Hughes is a stand up guy who has always done the risky thing rather than the safe thing to preserve his rep. If he took the safe way out, he would have been champ once more. Anyway, I say the UFC lets him fight Serra, if Serra has the guts to fight him, and then maybe he should retire.
by True Believer on Jun 9, 2008 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How would it have been different? Alves’ knee wouldn’t have connected? Hughes is awesome but his best days are well behind him. I hope he doesnt turn into the next Ken Shamrock.
by TC on Jun 9, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC should consider making Alves move up to MW. If he loses 4 lbs. of muscle, he will not stand a chance against GSP/Fitch.
by UFCAddict on Jun 9, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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