UFC 84: Fighter paydays and salaries for 'Ill Will'
by MMAmania.com on May 27, 2008 1:31 PM EDT
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MMAmania.com (www.mmamania.com) has received the fighter payouts for UFC 84: "Ill Will" from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) for the pay-per-view (PPV) event held on May 24 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.
No surprise, BJ Penn was the top bread winner of the evening, raking in $250,000 for his 15-minute drubbing of Sean Sherk. Tito Ortiz was not far behind with a $210,000 paycheck for possibly his last appearance inside the Octagon.
Wanderlei Silva, Lyoto Machida and Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou also made out handsomely on a card that appears to have quite a few big earners (more than most).
Here are all the UFC 84 payouts:
B.J. Penn — $250,000 ($125,000 to show, $125,000 to win)
Sean Sherk — $35,000
Penn defeated Sherk via technical knockout (strikes) in round three
Wanderlei Silva — $150,000
Keith Jardine — $10,000
Silva defeated Jardine via knockout in round one
Lyoto Machida — $100,000 ($50,000 to show, $50,000 to win)
Tito Ortiz — $210,000
Machida defeated Ortiz via unanimous decision
Thiago Silva — $50,000 ($25,000 to show, $25,000 to win)
Antonio Mendes — $4,000
Silva defeated Mendes via submission (strikes) in round one
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou — $80,000 ($40,000 to show, $40,000 to win)
Kazuhiro Nakamura — $20,000
Sokoudjou defeated Nakamura via technical knockout (strikes) in round one
Rousimar Palhares — $10,000 ($5,000 to show, $5,000 to win)
Ivan Salaverry — $20,000
Palhares defeated Salaverry via submission (armbar) in round one
Goran Reljic — $6,000 ($3,000 to show, $3,000 to win)
Wilson Gouveia — $18,000
Reljic defeated Gouveia via technical knockout (strikes) round two
Yoshiyuki Yoshida — $12,000 ($6,000 to show, $6,000 to win)
Jon Koppenhaver — $8,000
Yoshida defeated Koppenhaver via submission (anaconda choke) in round one
Dong Hyun Kim — $40,000 ($20,000 to show, $20,000 to win)
Jason Tan — $3,000
Kim defeats Tan via technical knockout (strikes) in round three
Rich Clementi — $40,000 ($20,000 to show, $20,000 to win)
Terry Etim — $10,000
Clementi defeated Etim via unanimous decision decision
Shane Carwin — $12,000 ($6,000 to show, $6,000 to win)
Christian Wellisch — $10,000
Carwin defeated Wellisch via knockout in round one
Keep in mind the salaries listed above do not include fight bonuses, sponsorships, percentages and other unofficial payments. It also does not include deductions for expenses such as insurance, taxes, etc.
For example, the UFC often hands out extra cash for "Fight of the Night," "Knockout of the Night" and "Submission of the Night." To check out these figures for UFC 84 go here.
The total base fighter payroll for UFC 84 was $1.098 million.
For complete results and coverage of the "Ill Will" click here.
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Damn, 10,000 for Jardine huh, i guess thats his opening contract money. When he renegotiates his contract id expect him to get 50,000-75,000 per fight. BJ with 250,000, Sean Sherk 35,000 . . . Says a lot (since this wasnt Seans opening contract, thats just what the guy makes, 70,000 to win is barely half of what BJ makes to show/lose.
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 27, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions
I remember when Jardine fought Chuck. Chuck made about $500,000 and Jardine made $14,000. Jardine, you are playing the fool man, you gotta make some changes and fast bro. Unfortunately, those types of losses aren’t helping.
Poor Mendes and Tan…$7k combined.
by tripleainto on May 27, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
UNBELIEVABLE(?)(did I spell that right?). That is INSANE!!!! Keith, you are better than that(money wise).Thiago Silva — $50,000 ($25,000 to show, $25,000 to win)
Antonio Mendes — $4,000 Dong Hyun Kim — $40,000 ($20,000 to show, $20,000 to win)
Jason Tan — $3,000. Some UFC guys need to grow a set.
by iagoof22 on May 27, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Unbelievable that Jardine made 10k. Goveia made 18k and jardine has beat him! Thats no dough for a guy who has seen some tough fights
by Fidel Cashflow on May 27, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I know….and to be fair to the guy, he has probably fought some of the best competition for those peanuts…Sucks to be KJ…It’s not fair that he is held to that crappy contract, they should review them if the fighter rises to the top quickly or something.
I wonder ow much Forrest will make in comparison to Quinton….I don’t think it’s fair that a guy should be given a shot at the title….which is the PPV puller on most cards, and not get a revised salary at least for that actual fight.
I guess this is why the UFC loves TUF…they get guys desperate to get into the UFC so can pay them nothing on a long term contract…what are they going to say…no?
by ToeLock on May 27, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only did he just make 10 k but to add insult to injury he was admitted to the emergency room after the fight,that can get expensive with no health insurance, plus payouts to corner men,taxes and whatever bills he racked up since his last fight. My guess is that Keith didnt make much from this at alllllllllll.
by tobias808 on May 27, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
dude he has large sponsorship deals and he is insured to fight! the ufc will cover its fighters bills! he also had cornermen who were there with other fighters that night
by the heat on May 27, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign it and live with it or don’t sign it. Your choice.
I’m sure Keith wanted to negotiate for more, but when you’re an uncertain commodity, you’re not going to get the best price. If Jardine truly believed in himself, he would have left some guaranteed dollars on the table and taken a shorter contract. Easy to say, but hard for anyone to do in that situation.
His next contract will be far better. I may not like him, but I always want to see his fights—name one that’s been boring.
by BobC on May 27, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
do you have a clue? He signed the contract for exposure on TV. TUF contracts are long and not lucrative (the older ones) The guys on the show now, that finish the fight, make as much as Jardine. Hey Mania, do you know the exact length of TUF contracts? I thought it was some ridiculous 3 years or 10 fights, but not exactly sur. You guy got to remember, the “6 figure” deal is over the life of contract and it’s a show/win contract, so to max out, you got to win!!
by kevin on May 27, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I know its a long link but here’s Jardine discussing his then one-month old win over Liddell and his own contract. The portion dealing with his pay and related issues starts at about the 8 minute mark.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:PAp036okVMkJ:mrsunshinevegas.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/keith-jardine-talks-liddell-win-and-ufc-contracts/+keith+jardine+ufc+contract&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
by Will on May 27, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
good post will, nothing like making 10,000/10,000 for 3 years. So at 3 fights a year, you max out at 60,000! Yet TUF guys on the show now could run through the show and make more than you? I’d suspect Dana is paying lots of extra cash “under the table” or he won’t have any fighters left!
by kevin on May 27, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
“Anybody here wonder why Fedor, who operates as an independent and makes $2million a fight, doesn’t join this organization????
Is it any wonder why the UFC TUF fighters cannot improve. $10k per fight fighting every two to 3 months, paying living expenses, training expenses (I am sure they get great trainers for the money they have left LOL) and hospital bills. The better fighters need to fight til the end of their contracts then leave and form a fighters union. Tito was right, these guys are slaves. In order to make 6 figures, they have to be the very best of the best. Even then for what they risk, compared to professional boxers (and some of their pay per view numberss rival some pro boxing shows) they are not fairly compensated. Tito is right. The more name UFC fighters that come to this realization the better chance a fighter’s union will be formed. If the champions were smart, they would fight out their fremaining fights on their contracts then move on. When they negotiate new contracts with any organization, they would demand a buyout clause in lieu of waiting so many months for a noncompete to expire(which is what Couture should have had).” By JW I agree 100%!!!!!!
by T on May 27, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He can’t be too unhappy: “I never dreamed I’d be making this much money” I suspect Dana is giving him quite a bit extra.
One question I have is how the contract process works. When you sign up for the show, do you sign an upfront contract for your appearance and show pay that also specifies the T&Cs if they later offer a long-term contract (duration and $$), or do you get done, get offered a contract, and then negotiate?
Clearly, the latter would put you in a better position, but if you want the pub (and potential marketing $) of being on the show, you might go for it anyway.
by BobC on May 27, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Jardine gets bonuses when he signs up against top fighters.
by Pat on May 28, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Adam,
Thanks for the props in the other thread for being a BJ fan. Appreciate it.
-OJR
by OJR on May 27, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
YEP! Recognize the founders and contributers of the BJ Penn movement, its an all out €xodus my friend!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 27, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats exactly why Sherk even gets title shots…..he is a cheap champion.
As for Tito, $200,000 is more then generous for a fighter that has usually the most dissapointin performance on every card he is in. But he talks a good game. Glad to see Machida displaying why he is a TOP fighter. Did Tito even land a shot?
by john on May 27, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Jardine’s pay actually works out to about $277.78 per second, which really isn’t bad, especially considering he wasn’t even awake for several of those seconds.
by PW on May 27, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats rubbish! Think of all the hours he dedicated in the gym and then re-calculate.
by McGranners on May 28, 2008 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Dana White can only gaurentee a certain amount of money in a contract…
You cant put, “what if you perform well”…
Jardine signed the dotted line, on what they(him and the ufc), thought he was worth gaurenteed….next contract will be different.
I cant believe that after all that Randy shit, people think that a fighter only make’s the money that is on their contract..
Dana will go into a fighters dressing room and hand out fat-checks to the fighters that put on a good show(win or lose)….Trust me if you fight good, you are getting paid good, regaurdless of what your contract says….
Dana knows better then to sign a guy to $100,000 a fight, and then have them pull a “kalib starnes”….
Jardine himself isn’t complaining, so I dont know why other people are?
by Stagger-Lee on May 27, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Man this f*ckin’ sucks!!I can’t believe they treat Keith whose supposed to be “The Dean Of Mean” like shit!!And totally, that loss doesn’t help at all in his situation…Tsk! Tsk!!
by Syd on May 29, 2008 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
how the fuck does kaz and ivan salaverry get double what jardine got???can understand what titos on about but 210 000 softens the blow a bit lol.
by SCOTT on May 27, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
And Jacob complained about how much he got paid too. lol Ivan got that much I’m guessing because he’s a veteran, I was somewhat pumped to see him back, too bad he lost. lol
by Toms Bombs on May 27, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that was his last fight on his contract. i recently seen him in a interview saying that he want to focus on his gym and family, although he is not officially retired we probably wont see him in the octagon any time soon.
by the levi on May 27, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude this stuff is a fighter by fighter basis. comparing two fighters salaries is like apples to oranges, a lot of factors have to be taken into consideration.
by Jesse G on May 27, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they keep antonio mendes in the mix, even if it’s under cards. He looks like he could cause some trouble for ppl at LHW.
by linx on May 27, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
Yep, correct!He just has to improve his ground game, and he’ll be a tough rat to beat…
by Syd on May 29, 2008 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Jardine needs some sort of extra compensation for taking that sick knockout. Maybe he’ll get royalties from being on the next Ultimate Knockouts dvd.
by RiverHorror on May 27, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
I agree. I think you should get a bonus for losing. And the worse you lose the more money you should get. And the faster you lose the more money you get. And if you can string 8 – 10 losses in a row together, you should get a seven figure bonus.
by pants and a hat on May 27, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao….though i think Tito was saying that fighters don’t get DVD roylties or stuff like that in an interview posted on here the other day
by ToeLock on May 27, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana said at the press conference that Jardine got payed alot more than what was reported but he would never tell the true number.
Take it for what its worth, id link to the video but im not sure mmamania would appreciate a link to another site on their comments.
by Dan on May 27, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
by linx on May 27, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it sounds like the ufc is paying a bit of cash outside of the contract. Well, I guess thats a good thing. I am speaking of Jardine
by Mark B. on May 27, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i’ve been saying this since time…JARDINE’s PR ppl are SHIT it’s horrible!! this guy should’ve gotten a title shot after that liddell fight but he’s an idiot and so are the ppl representing him and he needs to get a personality fast!!
by XxXFactor on May 27, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
This isn’t related to anything on this topic but…
Am I the only one who thinks BJ Penn would get schooled by Shinya Aoki? Schooled might be too powerful a word, but it would be a great match.
Sure, BJ’s stand-up might be a little more fluid and crisp, but Aoki is no slouch to be sure. He successfully smothered JZ’s stand-up offense by clinching and pulling guard. His flexibility is second to none, his attitude and confidence are up there also, and his submission ability is sick. I don’t think Penn’s ground game is quite as good, but it’s still close. It would be a beautiful ground battle, I think. Battle of the Two who kind of use Rubber Guard.
Personally, I think BJ has to prove he’s better than Aoki before he can claim the #1 Lightweight in the World.
by KneeToTheFace on May 27, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
yes, you are the only one. as BJ alluded himself, he doesn’t have much to prove at 155 at the moment. Whether or not dana “the dick” white would give him a GSP rematch superfight though, is anyone’s guess.
by charles on May 27, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Whether you agree that Aoki is superior or not, I still think DREAM and the other asian lightweight circuits have many great fighters (none as well-rounded as BJ, admittedly) that would stand a chance. Eddie Alvarez comes to mind, as well as Joachim Hansen, both of whom I daresay have striking that is superior to Penn’s.
Basically, my point is that BJ Penn hasn’t fought nearly enough people to cement himself as the #1 Lightweight, much less the #1 fighter in the world (as many people tout him to be). Before he runs around demanding revenge against failed match-ups in other divisions, he needs to prove that he can dominate his division for a period of time, which he has not done. He always loses his heart and drive at some point in his run. If he can beat 2 more lightweights (plus any new deserving contenders in that timeframe) then I think it is fair for Dana White to give him his rematch. Of course, I think GSP will destroy him (and I’m not even much of a GSP fan but I do respect his roundedness and explosive ability, which will overwhelm Penn in any rematch; both have gotten much more skilled since their last fight, but I think St. Pierre has increased much more and is a threat to the #1 P4P Fighter, behind Fedor and Anderson), and he’ll scurry back down to lightweight.
by KneeToTheFace on May 27, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It is very obvious that BJ’s striking skills aren’t as good as some others… """BUT""" what BJ Penn has what other fighters do not have… is the ability to TAKE A PUNCH’
BJ Penn has a head like Wesley “Cabbage” Correira, it is a natural physical characteristic, that other fighters do not have, that is why BJ will beat most guys in a standup war… that is one of the reasons BJ can fight & hang with a 205 lbr like Lyoto Machida.
That is also why GSP will not stand with Penn for long, GSP being 15lbs bigger will take BJ down and GnP BJ to a decision like last time.
At 155lb there isn’t 1 fighter in the UFC that will be a threat to BJ Penn… hence his lack of motivation might kick in and it might be by BJ’s own doing that will cause him problems at the UFC’s 155 lb division, but even then a more mature BJ will not lose at the 155 lb weight class.
by THORAZINE on May 27, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP would finish BJ in under a round. I think BJ is a fraction over rated. I also think Sherk rocked him a couple of times and with a few follow up strikes could have got over BJ easier than what people may have expected…
by Rilly on May 27, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Those are bold words and I can’t see it happening based on what happened in their 1st fight and how they’ve been training and improving within the last year or two. GSP and BJ have both greatly improved in areas that they’ve been working on.
BJ’s head is much more durable than GSP’s, BJ’s punch me in the face game is highly underrated (LMAO) and barely mentioned among MMA fans.
Sherk did rock BJ as other fighter have, but BJ is more dangerous to his opponets than they are to him in exchanges like that because he is heavy handed and more aware than dazed while still accurately punching.
GSP will have to rely on his takedowns and GnP game… there’s no way GSP will get a submission or KO BJ on the ground… maybe at best… a TKO in GnP mode… but I doubt it.
If GSP and BJ were legitmately in the same weight class… I say BJ would win… but matter of factly, GSP is 15 lbs bigger.
Look at BJ’s face at press conferences and his opponents’’’ see GSP vs Penn & Sherk vs Penn…
by THORAZINE on May 27, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Also see Gomi/Penn, Hughes/Penn (either fight) Pulver/Penn (either fight) Stevenson/Penn etc etc Joey Gilbert/Din Thomas/Coal Uno etc etc Hell, see every BJ Penn post fight, his opponents look like hell and he looks the same no matter what! His skin is taylored out of volcanic lava with a skull of volcanic rock! BJ BJ BJ!!! LMAO, “in under a round” LoL, obviously a newbee. GET REAL DUDE!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 27, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Rilly, that this comment just solidifies the reason I sometimes don’t scroll down. Do you think BJ has fought no one? He’s never been ko’d or cut, while only fighting the best. He dominated Sherk, do you realize sherk’s only 2 losses were to Matt Hughes and GSP, where he was outweighed and undersized. you my friend should sit back and watch some old fights, then come back with a little more knowledge!
by kevin on May 28, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
pulling guard on someone like jz made sense for shinya but bj is so dominant when he has someone on their back. despite aokis flexibility i doubt shinya would do anything on the ground that bj couldnt handle or that would surprise him. either way that would definetely be one hell of a technical display of jits between two of the most freakishly flexible top lws fighters in the world.
by alexguy on May 27, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Aoki won’t even win the Dream LW GP, his stand-up is limited at best, he’s really good but not at BJ’s level….yet
by Tiller on May 27, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ would DESTROY Aoki, Bj would pick him apart on the feet and Aoki would probably quit before the fight was over. IMO, Aoki is one of the softest fighters I have ever watched, he has 3 victories by claiming a illegal stike and saying he couldn’t continue. Aoki is very skilled, but BJ is better at everything.
by Haze on May 27, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you watched him grapple or watched any of his MMA fights…?
by KneeToTheFace on May 27, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Aoki will get beat by BJ. I know that people get impressed by fancy groundwork, but BJ beats people using what he calls “advanced basics”. BJ has the BEST guard and the BEST passing skills in MMA, bar none.
by Pat on May 28, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather see him fight Aoki than GSP
Too bad it’ll remain only a Dream
by sureal on May 27, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
They sure as hell marquis ed Jardine as a Superfight, and would have been a main event if there wasn’t a title fight. $10K??? wtf.. That is not right. He beat a fighter that makes $500K, that’s only 2%
by DirtbagHtr on May 27, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
Poor Jardine. Only $10k. I think Tito has some good points in his post fight interview on how the fighters deserve more. So if Jardine made 10k minus 30% taxes, – training expenses & medical bills. He should be in dept.
Comparing Penn vs Sherk is another example. If this was a boxing match for a title, there is no way anyone of them would have gone in the ring for $35k.
by Jo on May 27, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
uhh Jardine doesn’t have to pay for the medical expenses. those are covered by the insurance the UFC is REQUIRED to take out on all fighters that are competing and it covers medical expenses as well as any necessary rehab from said injuries that happen during a fight.
by kitsunex on May 27, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
medical expenses that have occurred during training, and since the last fight which was months ago. Everyone racks up bills if you fight three times a year think about it at 10 k a fight thats 30 a year which is below the poverty level in many states.
by tobias808 on May 27, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
10K is a joke. Jardine signed the contract, so he and his Manager should share the blame, but until the fighters unionize, they’re going to be dealing with the UFC….not in a one on one scenario, but in a David vs Goliath scenario.
They need to unionize if they want any power to negotiate. They’re generating WAY too much money for one of the fighters (one who was fighting in one of fights they were promoting to sell PPVs) to walk away with 10K.
Just my $.02.
by TonyDrip on May 27, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
That’s all we need is a fuckin fighters union… Tito is a bitch, probably just mad after watching Jenna get bent over for 5 minutes and getting paid 10X more then he does after he gets bent over for 15 minutes. If it wasn’t for the UFC the world would only know 1 Tito and that one was from Gary Indiana (Jackson 5), not Huntington Beach…
by Arnold on May 27, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
we need a fighter union huh, didnt know you were in the UFC
by tobias808 on May 27, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s the problem with it? You’re right about the UFC, but where would the UFC be without the fighters!?
They’re making a TON of $$, as they should since they took all the risks to bring the sport to where it is today.
It’s time to move past that. It’s a success and now it’s time to take care of the guys making the sacrifices now – THE FIGHTERS!
Every other professional sport has a union – how do you think guys negotiate with the likes of the NFL, NBC, etc!? They have to have some power or else they’re treated like sh!t…..just like Data treats any fighter he’s not particularly fond of.
by TonyDrip on May 27, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know what the NBC is, however I do know that the unions you named are for team sports. Is there a bowling union or tennis union? Additionally, unions only hold down the best to carry up the weak… that’s it. One last note, the UFC still in its infancy, it couldn’t handle a strike like the NHL and baseball have. Competition will cause higher wages. Speaking of which, if the money just flows into the UFC promoters, why doesn’t Tito start something?
by Arnold on May 28, 2008 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
not to impressive, tito should get more money.. he should have up to about a million atleast..
by RoB on May 27, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
no sarcasm at all… Tito should get a million, he’s the biggest superstar in the UFC and to even see that he’s getting paid what the others do is a shame, he’s been in the UFC for 11 years fought 21 times and been the best champion ever.. and all he’s getting is 210.000 ? to be really honest he should get up to about 2 millions..
by RoB on May 28, 2008 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Greg Jackson took the blame for Keiths loss , maybe he should take the blame for the contract too.
by the levi on May 27, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
Wow – this leaves me with no desire to become an ultimate fighter. This sport has a lot of work to do. It’s probably the least paid professional sport, isn’t it? But, to note, it’s an infant compared to other sports.
by Matt on May 27, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
I am a little surprised at how low Sherk gets paid. I hope Affliction still throws him a bone.
by naturalshadow on May 27, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Damn, some people (Jardine, Sherk) deserve wayyy more!
by facethemusic321 on May 27, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
hello, i hope you guys missed me. Jardine and i talked after the fight. jardine made a little more than 40 total. And remember guys, Jackson does not charge his fighters to train. He makes money off his academy. You guys who know me so far know i dont B.S.
by Javster on May 27, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
wow. poor jardine, he hasn’t had a fight in waaayyyy too long, puts a ton of cash into training, can’t walk outside without ppl asking for an autograph, probably has a few medical bills, but yet only gets paid 10k for the fight. thats nuts!
by MDR on May 27, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
I never saw a fighter go two rounds without landing a single blow (maybe not perfectly true but almost)
Tito was fighting a ghost
by sureal on May 27, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish people would stop acting surprised on here, its all about the marketablity of the fighters. Jardine is not a popular fighter, his head looks like it doesnt suit his body. Needs to sort that shit out.
What you are not seeing are the figures the fighters get from endorsements, which are only achieved because they are in the UFC.
End of the day, the UFC ‘is the place to be’ however, they are now becoming a ‘stepping stone for better salaries’
by DownUnder on May 27, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
How exactly would recommend he reconfigure his head to fit his body?
by PW on May 27, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Keith has a ton of heart and talent. I would like to see you withstand one leg kick from him just to shut you up. His head as you refer to it is more marketable than your entire country has to offer. He just looks like a fighter plus has a cool name.
Geesh another insult from an aussie. Come to think of it your entire continent has nobody, not one, zero, marketable fighters.
by tobias808 on May 27, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Anthony Mundine goes ok…..when he doesn’t talk…..
by Rilly on May 27, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys act like jardine only gets 10K and thats it. He will get his medicals paid, special locker room bonuses and his sponsorship money (a lot since hes fighting in the UFC). He’ll only get taxed on the 10K too. Stop being a bunch of whiners. He’ll get more money on his next contract.
by Donohue on May 27, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
Someone mentioned that Tito should be making near the million dollar mark . . . He gets 210,000 to show/lose, he would get 420,000 to win and if he had match of the night (which Lyoto wouldnt allow LoL) and sub of the night with that triangle you could add another 150,000 to his 420,000 for a 570,000 paycheck, thats not too bad if you ask me man, Tito dictates in the octagon what Tito makes outside the octagon. Its not just like 210,000 (which is still great!) and thats it, there are plenty of insentives for all these fighters. You could have a base of 10,000 like Jardine and walk out with 95,000 (20,000 to win and KO of the night for another 75,000) Plus you might also get match of the night to make it 170,000 and as a Jardine thats pretty decent, but if you get KO’d in less then 40 seconds you leave with what you earned and for some its less than others . . . ESPECIALY if your name is Kieth Jardine LMAO!! 10,000, what a joke for any MMAist!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 27, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
remember, Wandi got KO of the night so thats not his base salary, take 75,000 of that away and split it in half, thats waht Wandis base to show/lose is, pretty much like a Sherk to me. (I could be wrong and its not 75,000 per sub/KO/Match of the night, but 75,00 total, and 25,000 a piece) So redo any of my math with that 25,000 sustituted for the 75,000. Still, all looks nice to me.
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 27, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Both dana and jardine say that hes compensated well. jardine says in the interview posted earlier that he’s been able to buy a nice house and do well of the ufc – can’t do that on 20-30K a year and afford trainers etc…
My guess is that he’s salaried, like a few of the other TUF contestants – that’s why he’s not concerned about titles, gate and fight income.
by pacalis on May 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
Pretty BS with Jardine’s 10K but remember he’s also got a Harley Davidson sponsorship and numerous other ones.
Hopefully he renegotiates his contract… what motivation is there for a fight when you get paid that much? …and someone like Gouveia (that you beat) is doing better than you… and your rated a Top 10 LHW.
Jardine: $10,000
Silva: $220,000 ($70,000 for KO of the Night)
BS.
by DLew on May 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Did they announce who got KO of the night and Submission of the night and what those bonuses were?
by Shadyone33 on May 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
This is such BS. I know there’s sponsers and bonuses but seriously how do some of these guys live. If Goran Reljic lost he would only have pocketed $3000. Fair enough he won and got an extra $3000 and got fight of the night. But what if Wilson had have finished him when he hurt him. He would have gotten no win bonus or fight of the night bonus as unquestionably it wouldn’t have been the best bout.
Now he’s a newcomer to the UFC but I just don’t understand how he could have signed that contract. Even winning 4 fights a year, the average industrial wage in the UK and Ireland (well I presume the UK too) is still considerably higher.
I rather be a fcuking brickie or postman. I just don’t understand this nonsense.
by RobH86 on May 27, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
There is such a thing called loving a sport. At the purest form these fighters should be getting paid to do what they love. Generally most people would take lower pay to have a job they truly enjoy and have a passion for. However this is also a profession that allows the workers to become extremely wealthy.
Like all work MMA is incentive based (with the added influence of popularity and draw playing a large role in base-pay as well). This is great in my opinion it means fighters are given the incentive to finish fights in exciting fashion. The bonus pay is awesome. Can you imagine landing that money if you are a lower tier fighter?
Ultimately this is an old topic. Do you actually see people lining up to leave the UFC like Tito claims they should? No. Typically when people feel they are being compensated insufficiently they look elsewhere. The UFC provides ample opportunity for fighters to make big names for themselves – get paid well for their sport – and then rake cash in hand over fist with incentives and SPONSORSHIP. Just buy a FIGHT! magazine subscription and look at the cars the fighters drive in each month’s edition. The successful fighters are not scraping by.
by theTRON on May 27, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
Still, though, Jardine’s contract sucks…Sure it’s incentive based but c’mon now it’s not like they’re working on comission lol. It really is only a handful of guys that are making the money they should. As for the issue of the love of the sport comes first I’m not so sure really. You’re looking at a short career for these guys and I just feel many of them should be compensated better or leave the sport. A couple of underpaid names that spring to mind are Clay Guida and Yushin Okami. Those guys should be on triple what they are now if you consider what similar calibre fighters make.
by RobH86 on May 27, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How much did Clay Guida and Yushin Okami make last year. Just curious since you seem to know the dollar amount. Either that or you just know what MMA Mania reported for their fight salary. I’m gonna bet on the latter.
I wish guys like you would champion arguments that you actually had the facts on instead of looking like idiots. But hey, fortunately for you, the UFC released Okami so he doesn’t have to worry about the “underpaid” situation anymore.
And if we’re all REALLY lucky, Guida will decide to leave the UFC because RobH86 doesn’t think he makes enough money. Cross your fingers!!
Good post, man. Echh.
by SkeletonKey on May 27, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
dana white is the man… LOL he is “THE WHITE DON KING”
The fighter dont get taken care of as much a Dana KING White says I here the has his boys and yes if he likes you you get a hook up! LET’S hope Dana and his big ego run a lot more of the top fighters off!! GO DANA
by mmaking on May 27, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
Happens at EVERY UFC card.
Someone will complain about fighter’s pay…FOR THE FIGHTERS.
In his own words, Jardine is happy with his pay.
He’d never thought he’d be making this much money.
Also…Dana White has said himself that Jardine is making more than the 10K…while in FRONT OF JARDINE…
And on numerous occasions…fighters and promoters have said that the UFC pays more under the table.
What’s the dispute now?
by Mickey Pham on May 27, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks for the dose of common sense there, Mickey. You and I agree completely. Honestly, I can barely stand to read these threads anymore. It just seems littered with guys who love to fucking whine over anything, and out of 30 posts you might find one guy who even knows what the hell he’s talking about.
Ugh.
by SkeletonKey on May 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutly ridiculous how much money the UFC gets away with paying their fighters!
With all the new up and coming MMA organizations, they better realize the error of their ways, or the best fighters will go where the money is and the best fans will follow them…
I’m getting sick up & fed.
by Talkman on May 27, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Don’t like what Jardine gets paid? Blame Jardine for accepting the contract.
No one HAS to sign. They can say “no” and go elsewhere. If they DO sign, then no one has a right to bitch about what the fighters get. It’s that simple.
And yet… they keep signing. Maybe it’s not as unfair as some fans try to make it out to be.
by John C on May 28, 2008 2:34 AM EDT reply actions
jardine is bad a$$ cause he is not bitching about it at all, until a lot of crappy fighters
by paul on May 28, 2008 3:28 AM EDT reply actions
IS WANDERLEI SIVA FIGHTIN LYOTO MACHIDA NEXT ??
by pooninai on May 28, 2008 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
Tito has the balls to complain about money when he made that much to lose? Him and Randy “HGH” Couture both are nothing more them money grubbing has-beens!
by DaGrizzlyBear on May 28, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
The Machida vs. Ortiz fight was the most expensive one of the night. It cost the UFC a combined $310K for both fighters. However, I bet Lyoto got a fat bonus check for beating Tito for Dana. I thought it was hilarious how he pronounced his name “cheeto”.
by UFCAddict on May 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Dana White makes Don King look like a saint. Under Don King over 90 boxers made over a million a fight. Tyson made an average of $10.6 million per fight and this was over 15 years ago.
The UFC makes roughly $50 million per event and pays its fighters a combined salary of roughly $1 million. Its probably a safe bet that Dana White makes far more per event than the combined salaries of all of the fighters. His efforts to hide the fighters’ salaries and the owners take further supports the underhanded nature of the UFC.
A recent UFC had 700,000 pay-per-view customers, which translates to $38.5 million and that does not include the gate or sponsorships like Harley or Bud Light.
Coture – undeniably the nicest and most professional of the fighters – stood up for his rights and got sued by the UFC with Dana White leading the charge. Someone needs to rescue this sport from the likes of Dana White. The fighters should unionize and Dana should go back to teaching aerobics.
by Sid on Jun 22, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
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