this is great. tito’s point about jardine is 100% right. he should have fucking slammed dana through the podium while wearing his “dana is my bitch” shirt. ha.

Cry me a river!!

Machida almost pulled off a (starnes) baby kicks, jabs & running. Machida was so boring that the ref. fell cause he was falling asleep. I’ll give Machida the credit for winning though.

yeah. i know there is more technique and skill to machida’s style. but give me a fucking break. the “im elusive because i back up for days until you have to attack me wildly” style is bullshit. maybe he should get into boxing. i hear there’s a huge market for that. or he could fight starnes is a cage that has a 4 mile diameter. that way they could both practice run-kune-do.

This highlights the dark and unproffesional side of Dana White. Tito, who tried to fight, won’t be back but Machida, who was “Elusive” all fight, will be back and may get a title shot at some point in the future. I guess Machida says the right things ’cause he may be one of the most boring “good” fighters out there.

Dana, grow up.

Jenna is the man in that relationship. How many times did she interrupt him?

what is jenna titos lawyer or something? Im sick of hearing how she is such an awesome bussiness woman. Oh well at least shes not speaking out about politics. I feel bad for tito that RR phantom he had in the countdown was like a 2006, COME ON DANA the guy cant afford a 2009 for his 30 minutes in the octagon a year? Something has to change.

I don’t know why there’s so much hate against Tito Ortiz?

The guy comes to fight, he may trash talk to hype fights…but in every post fight interview – he’s respectful of his opponent and is a true professional.

He may not win like he used to, but, name me a pro athlete that doesn’t slow down with age? Its like a guy that puts 10 years at Microsoft wanting a raise for helping build the company, and the filthy rich boss pissing on the idea because loyalty is traded for younger, cheaper workers.

Couture talked money – Dana black balled him
Tito talked money – Dana black balled him
Arlovsky talked money – Dana black balled him

Who’s next? Gsp? Penn? Rampage? A Silva?

Dana White is a f*ckin’ biatch!!

Dana is destroying the rep of the UFC. I wonder if Tito will ever be allowed into the UFC hall of fame? Love him or hate him, He has been larger than life and really helped the UFC become what it became as fast as it did.

If the UFC black balls fighters and reduces the fighters to a bunch of “yes men” bitches how can we trust the integrity of the sport? With that kind of integrity how can we even trust referee decisions? Dana is just the bitch of his bosses, who really pulls the strings here? All this from someone who has never been a Tito fan!

I’m brazilian and I’m very patriotic and I always like to see a brazilian fighter winning. You can say all you want about Machida, and I agree that he’s boring, but it’s simply almost impossible to understand how he fights and how he moves. It was using that same style that he knocked out dead Rich Franklin and submitted what many of you think it’s the next big thing, Sokoudjou. He even got Tito down, As long as I remember the only fighter to ever control Tito on the ground was a very scary and talented fighter an one of the best of all time named Randy Couture. Machida is a karate fighter with unbelievable talent and he made Tito Ortiz his bitch. He is the next champion, mark my words

Change can be brought about by pressure…us the fans. But thats real difficult to do… to unite and agree on something universal without seeing the entire picture. UFC has all the aces at the mo… GSP, BJ, Silva, Wandy and Rampage..plus the good comentating too by guys who actually enjoy and research what they do. Dana is a businesman, and very good at it.

If You Can Change, I can Change. WE CAN CHANGE.

The only way this can change is if the players go on strike. But if the strike is to work then it has to be led by the guys on top who are getting paid a lot of money. The organization can’t continue if its stars say they wont fight until the low end fighters can make a living. However, that would take some selfless stars. Also, it would just mean the organization would get thinner because it would cut people to make up the money.

Tito lost to a better fighter, plain and simple.

Tito has become irrelevant. Dana is completely justified in wanting this guy gone from the UFC. Tito is all but done as a top tier fighter, as evidenced by his last several fights, saved only by his defeats of the “awesome” Ken Shamrock. Next time Tito should let his fighting do his talking – I know I for one would prefer that over listening to his usual BS.

I really hope the UFC never get’s back into the “Tito Ortiz business”.

Please Tito, just go away. Your day has passed…the ship has sailed. Good work Dana!

Sorry burst your bubble, but Machida whooped Tito’s a**. He’s the fricken the man!

By the way, if Tito ditches Jenna, he might be able to pull out the “V” sometime. Obviously, he hasn’t won a fight since they hooked up… LOL. Good luck Tito- your okay man.

Now Tito can make his money the same way Jenna did by making his genitalia into a pocket pussy.

Its hard to argue that Tito knows what he’s talking about. I mean do you think Wanderlai is really going to say he’s not happy, when he’s got a wife and kids back home in Brazil to provide for? On another note..Machida played his game to a T last night…he’s got a great style, but his style is more about winning points. A kick here, a Kick there, a quick jab..it works on the scorecards, but it is extremely frustrating to watch as a spectator and as someone who fights myself. If that were PRIDE, how many yellow cards would’ve Machida got in that fight?
For anyone who says Tito doesn’t have heart, he does. He fought to the very, very end in a fight where he easily couldve just given in. I gained a lot of respect for him after that.

I should clarify though I do believe these amazing Men wo put there bodies in harms way should get paid more. Just cops, firefighters, soldiers and paramedics.

just like…

Jardine wouldn’t have to pay for his medical bills in the fight. Fighters have to cover themselves for injuries incurred while training. But otherwise it is on the employer’s time so it is on the employer’s dime. Legally, it is a worker’s comp issue.

Jenna needs to shut it. She is an idiot.

Tito and Machida both did absolutely nothing in this fight. Tito looked like Ken Shamrock. I cant stand Tito and I’m glad I never have to see him fight in the UFC again. Jenna needs to STFU. It’s obvious Tito is her bitch.

Hm, Jenna doesn’t look as fugly as she was half a year ago, when she had that Skeletor style going. I’d say she’s doable again, if she would shut her mouth.

Can’t comment much about the interview itself, as all I heard was yadda yadda yadda … badger badger badger …

Stagger-Lee’s, Sunday Summary

Last nights fight’s were awesome..I thought the card turned out better then expected!..

Melendes/Silva.
Good fight, while it lasted. I had money on Silva, and he came through..Melendes almost landed that high kick at the begining and had me worried..Silva composed himself well and showed his determination to win..Silva looked like a mad man when he snapped and took the fight directly to Melendes..I love it..

Ortiz/Machida.
This fight was boring at times, but I still enjoyed watching it, as the fight still had some entertaining moments..At the end of the first, Machida showed how fast he is, and also while being a very “technical” fighter he WILL try to end a fight if the opportunity arise’s.. Lets face it Tito is a hard fighter to finish in 3 rounds, and Machida had him on the edge twice..Tito did impress me aswell, with his triangle to arm-bar attempt..
As much as I dislike Tito..’If I only watched UFC? I would probably be saying I want Tito to get re-signed, BUT I watch all MMa promotions, and am actually looking forward to see where Jacob lands,and his next fight. because he will DEFINETLY not be fighting for the UFC..

Gouveia/Reljic.
Damn. I am so pissed that Wil lost..Goron looked decent in his UFC debut, but I still didn’t see to much(aside from his kicks) that impressed me..
Wil had him dazed, and couldn’t finish him off. So that tells me Reljic is tough aswell as having “quick recovery”. I mean Goveia had him, and Reljic came back Leban style, all pissed off, and caught Wil in the temple then banged him out…For people that were saying Wil can’t take a punch?..He got banged on like 10 times, while he was dazed, and still didn’t go limp..I dont think Gouveia will get cut from the UFC just yet. And as for Reljic?.. I see alot of hole’s in his game, and(imo) it’s just a matter of time before a top fighter expose’s them…

Jardine/Silva.
Do I even have to say anything??..The AXE-MURDERER is back!!

BJ/Sherk..
haha. I am so glad that fight is over. Now BJ can get to fighting Top competitiion…
Like I said before BJ .vs. Sherk = easy win for BJ…
And it was just that..Sherk had no chance..Sherk was scared to shoot, just like I thought…It was almost like BJ was playing with him…(imo) It look like BJ wanted the fight to go to later rounds to shut people up about his cardio…BJ could have finished Sherk whenever he wanted to…BJ only left himself with the stand-up option’s..imo in the 4th BJ would have taken it to Sean 100% and finished him…But BJ had him dazed and knew, if it was there? take it!…so he did…Sherk got KTFO!!

All around great card, and I am glad we got to see 9 fights on the ppv..I only bet on the 5 ppv bout’s and went 4right and 1Gouveia wrong!..won myself 600 bucks…Could have been 8, but I lost 200 on Wil..
sorry my post was mad long..probably a million spelling mistakes..but this is to long to spellcheck.lol..

Sorry to say, Dana White has turned into the next Vince McMahon. He is gonna try to monopolize MMA, thus causing it’s own demise. It’s the American way though….greed greed greed, bigger better faster. Consume your own competition, and kill your industry.

Stupid asshole.

Sometimes it’s easy to criticize a fighter based on his style. He may have not knocked Tito’s bollocks out like Wandi did to Jardine but he is very, very hard to figure out. He is an odd opponent to anyone. You have to chase him around the octagon and while you are doing that he is gonna be hiting you with some kicks and punches and scoring points. It’s awfull to watch but it’s perfect to stay undefeaded. He won’t lose anytime soon

I personally like watching Machida. I never know when he’s going to strike it’s always so lightning quick, he lulls you to sleep with dance lessons and then he jumps in for the kill. Really talented fighter. He’s so much smaller than Tito and others that he’d be crazy to not use his speed to avoid takedowns and punches. He just uses his strengths to exploit others’ weakness. Tito should have been training for that.

Bitch, bitch, bitch….

Who cares what that skank has to say????

Let it go.

I’m just laughing at all the children out there posting how “bad” of a businessman Dana is. Note to self, never let those people run a business if they are going to do the opposite of what Dana does. and Machida/ortiz was FAR from boring. I could watch 3 hours of Tito getting frustrated, and looking like those down syndrome eyes in the middle of that yellow bowling pin he calls a head are going to squirt streams of salty sadness all over the octagon. Priceless! Machida’s level of speed and awareness on his feet are amasing, and btw its hard to be called running away when you are facing your opponent and landing strikes. Also, Jenna is so war-torn tito has to bust out the defib paddles just to get her going. besides he should be arrested and charged with sexual misconduct with a cadaver.

You people are so out your hoops. these lower level fighters are on average, making more than lower level boxers. Also, Tito and Randy need to stop talking to Hollywood and realize that most movies lose money because of overpaid talent. I love reading all the comments on business from people that work at McDonalds and Wal Mart. Not saying that Dana is great at all. Dude needs to be waaaaaaaaaaaaay more behind the scenes than he is. Machida is brilliant. He never looked in trouble. Even in the worst triangle attempt in recent memory. Machida via decision over everyone.

Also, why no posting for GSP vs Fitch at UFC 87?

When did jenna become an expert on mma salaries. she knows nothing at all. she should not be aloud to speak at all about Dana or the UFC. oh know jardine only got paid 10,000 i would get knocked out in a sec to make 10,000 try working a real job 40 hours a weak what a loser

i give credit to machida for fighting smart, but i hate watching it…good fighter but boring to watch, i paid 50 dollars to see a fight, not one kick then back up and repeat. works good for him so i dont see him changing his style. good luck tito in the future

jardine comment wuz def right,jenna should stay out of it and let tito and dana handle it ,dana s being a baby and he s still pressing tittos buttons and shame on tito ,so much for and i quote “sometimes i may say things i shouldnt but maybe ill be the bigger man and turn my cheek hey i still have 3 good years left ,and ive wasted 11 good years on that asshole thats enough im done with dana”….well huntington beach bad boy hes still pulling your strings ….how much does anyone want to bet danas got somewhere in a contract hidden words stating tito cant fight anywhere else ,tito ll go see shaw at elite xc ,,,the fight will start white files court papers and sues ortiz jamieson holdings co……well its not to far off the polotics are even in mma …ithink its getting more and more like WWE everyday

he also prob blew his chance of fighting in UFC with the “danas my bitch” shirt

Machida is absolutely amazing to watch. Anyone that thinks be evasive and not getting hit is boring is stupid. Only guys with less technical skill charge in and take a shot to give one. If you like that, then watch bum fights or something. Machida is world class.

I cannot believe Tito alomst pulled that off. Got to give him his credit on that one. Although I would think that wouldnt of happened had he not had the unbelievable element of surprise on his side regarding submssions.

Machida needs a title shot, or number one contendar shot. GIve this guy the oppertunity he has well deserved.

What Tito’s shirt should have said is…..I am Jenna’s Bitch!

machida said he will die before tapping, i like his attitude, as long as he tries to finish fights he will be one to watch closely in future

i don’t see why fighters get paid so fucking much anyways.. tito should quit complaining about that fuck dude you get to fight and NOT go to jail all i would need to fight right there.. moneys cool and all but you got endorsements and your own clothing line out making you money shut the f*ck up and fight,i would rather watch a tito ortiz loss than a machida win anyday though that guys so damn boring i fell asleep twice hes a good fighter and deserves a shot but i don’t like him on a card i pay money for i pay for exciting like silva jardine

if Tito re-signs with the UFC (which I hope he doesn’t)he should have to suck Dana’s dick on the next PPV and it should be in Tito’s contract that his AIDS infested pin cushion is banned from all events.

Machida completely tooled Tito in that fight.

Screw Tito. he got his ass handed to him last night. He was talking all this trash about takin Machida down and pounding him in the face. Lyoto took him out of game and exposed him as a one trick pony. He is such a bitch that he got a slut bossing him around telling him what to do. Such a pussy……….

I hope he never returns to the UFC………

MANIA!

You coverage of this UFC has been…..shall we say……lack luster?

Machida made Tito even uglier than he already was. Lyoto is so fucking strong! his first two punches landed made cuts on Tito. Then the kicks were perfect!

well i have to say machida moved up a notch in my book i guess. i dont agree with his strategy cause its boring but its actually pretty smart. tito did a decent job of doing nothing at all but hes stll one of my favorites.

oh and this is my last post as tuffguy01 im now posting under machidafanclubprez i think?? because i lost that bet lol dammmiiit congrats jeff!.. we should do this again

ha ha jameson a smart woman dont make me laugh haha

UNION will solve the ufc problem.shame on them paying jardine 10,000 —they guy beat theyre number one guy chuck lidell…crap!!! and they pay brock lesner 250,000 the sport should be regulated..you know why they dont have any money to pay the fighters? with millions earned? they spend tons of shit in the following:
Expensive production.
Expensive pre show hype.
All internet advertisments(tons of it)
Paying advertisment in (YAHOO)
paying dozens of boxing writers to write about the ufc
paying movie stars and those sexy girls(you see them in shows) to watch.
paying TMZ
BUT they pay their fighters PEANUTS!!! totally unfair and totally disgusting!!! GO TITO MAKE MORE NOISE!!! ITS TIME FIGHTERS should fight FOR THEIR RIGHTS!!! go to dela hoya… Dana talks ill of boxing all the time… but he’s far worse than boxing promoters… randy coture as heavyweight champ gets 250T mike tyson got 500 million in his career…

damn..most fans of this sport dont really understand what fighters go tru physically and emotionally.. unless you are around it you just dont..so when i read some of these ignorant comments i take it as just that. ignorance.. but what the ufc, particularly DANA what they did to tito was just wrong..it doesnt take a genius to figgure out that machida was a bad match up for tito..really bad..why do you think even dana challenged tito to a BOXING match..so its his last fight and he losses in almost devastating fashion..we all seen bad score cards in fights but NO WAY not in this fight 27 30.. no confusion from these judges..then i thought tito came out humble in his interview with rogan yea trying to kiss up to fans but whatever it was his last fight at the biggest show for his job his career.. then and this surprised me the most because i usually agree with most of what joe rogan says in part because of his experience and overall knowledge of the fight game and what ppl fighters go tru but it seemed like even HE was pushing titos buttons to test him.. as a fan of fighting and being badass tito is in my book.. he has beat enough higly trained badass guys for him to have a decent respectful moment if this was indeed his last time in the octagon..but instead it was almost heartbreaking..i wish he would have smashed machida and retired then fans would want him back and other organizations would considerer him for better fights..but o well

crazy respect to fighters but if they’re getting jacked so badly, can’t they just find a regular 9-5 like the rest of us?… poor Jardine

Thiago Silva vs, winner Forrest/Rampage…any arguments? He has just been awesome.
I would love Alves vs. Silva, but I have a feeling somehow the steroid filled Hughes will pull out a win against Alves.

I seriously hope Jardine gets paid accordingly when he signs his next contract.

It appears that Tito, however good a businessman is, doesn’t understand economics (as do most of you).

You get what you want in this life. I choose not to be a cashier at Mcdonalds because I don’t want the pay. I don’t get a job there and cry “pay me more” because there are people desperate enough to do it for the offered price. However, when there’s a shortage of people to hire, or there are more and more competitors hiring the Mcdonalds cashier, then Mcdonalds is forced to pay more because if they don’t the cashiers will go to the competition for the better money. The other option is to do something else with their life. It’s a simple fact of life that some jobs pay poorly because there either isn’t a lot of competition, or there are many other fighters anxious to get a spot in line.

As Affliction and the others build steam, UFC will be forced to pay their fighters more. Until then, it seems that their philosophy is to pay them as little as they can get away. Vive America! That’s the country we fight to protect. Accept the reality. Tito should start another fight company and pay them more.

yeah jenna is definitely waering the pants in the family. dana should sign her to a fight contract.
and people have to ease up on machida. hes fighting a smart fight, evading blows and striking at opportune moments.

damn..most fans of this sport dont really understand what fighters go tru physically and emotionally.. unless you are around it you just dont..so when i read some of these ignorant comments i take it as just that. ignorance.. but what the ufc, particularly DANA what they did to tito was just wrong..it doesnt take a genius to figure out that machida was a bad match up for tito..really bad..why do you think even dana challenged tito to a BOXING match..so its his last fight and he losses in almost devastating fashion..we all seen bad score cards in fights but NO WAY not in this fight 27 30.. no confusion from these judges..then i thought tito came out humble in his interview with rogan yea trying to kiss up to fans but whatever it was his last fight at the biggest show for his job his career.. then and this surprised me the most because i usually agree with most of what joe rogan says in part because of his experience and overall knowledge of the fight game and what ppl fighters go tru but it seemed like even HE was pushing titos buttons to test him.. as a fan of fighting and being badass tito is in my book.. he has beat enough higly trained badass guys for him to have a decent respectful moment if this was indeed his last time in the octagon..but instead it was almost heartbreaking..i wish he would have smashed machida and retired then fans would want him back and other organizations would considerer him for better fights..but o well

No one disputes what Machida does is effective. On the other hand its not entertaining. We want fighters who are explosive and agressive. The passive jab and kick and then run half way across the octogon before repeating isn’t fun to watch. I mean we’re not holding these contests to have some sort of binding determination of who can beat who in a fight, they’re being held because they entertain people. You don’t entertain, people don’t show up at the gate or tune in to ppv. How many people are going to buy a PPV with Machida headlining it? He went out and made Rashad Evans look electrifying.

In my opinion, Tito had the aggression and the octagon control in that match. Machida ran away, and yes, that means he was elusive. Adding in that last-minute triangle, Tito should have qualified for something other than a 30-27.

Granted, Machida is a tough guy to figure out. However, he is very bad for business. Ortiz is the opposite.

Dana White was probably pretty upset to hear the chants of “Tito” ringing out every few minutes…so, here’s to hoping that they can both work things out.

MMAMANIA:

Danzig vs Guida

UFC 87

Not sure if anyone else already brought this up, but did anyone else here Mike Goldberg call Wandy “The Ice Man”? Cause I sure as hell did.

Im so tired of hearing ppl bytch about spending the 44.95 for pay per views. We all know that more than likely there is going to be a lackluster fight. Thats just part of the game. If you dont want to spend the $$$ for pay per views, then how about pooling people together and dividing the cost of the pay per view amongst others. Or better yet going to the local hooters or bars or whoever has it in your area that doesnt have a cover charge and watch them for free, while using that 44.95 on food and alochol….. So please quit bytching about you wasting your $$$$ on a lackluster card, or fight, when you can watch them for free……

I really enjoyed watching Tito lose. What happened to your clever T-shirt after you Lost? Not so cocky eeh? How come a guy who can obviously kick ass has to always remind everyone how tough he is? Tito has the mentality of an insecure teenage girl.

Thanks again UFC for airing the PPV on AFN !!!

no doubting machidas good but if he’s the f4t4re the 4fc are in trouble, like watching paint dry. the fight was interesting due to tito only.

i want wand chuck 2

Personally I think that Machida out classed Tito due to being a superior fighter. If he tried to pull that kind of thing with Andersson Silva; Machida would be knocked out within the first round. Its simple, get close to Machida and then do him damage, if you can’t do that then maybe you deserve to loose.

thiago silva is the one you machida lovers should be talking about not defensive machida, i hope chuck or shogun go up against machida, then we-ll c what hes made of. thiago silva v rampage after he owns forrest

I actually thought the fight wasn’t that bad. It was the wrestler trying to take down the karate guy. Last minute was classic! I can’t believe how mant people are complaining about Dana. The UFC just gave you an awesome card and yet you talk about Dana. Maybe some of u should stop watching MMA fights and watch more reality TV.

wow update your site mania……

if this were under the pride rules Machita would have been given a yellow card and lost 10% of his money for running the hole fight yea he won but it was like watching boxing hit and run no chance of finishing Tito mma is all about finishing. i would not want to see the sport go to this type of fighter and fighters should loose points for running. we seen about 2 minutes of action in a 15 minute fight. Machita fought the last 30 seconds of round 1 and 3 and we didnt even get that much out of 2 i give him credit for the other minute for hitting tito as he is running away. Machita needs a new nickname the running man

I don’t know how anybody can watch Machida fight and compare him to Kalib Starnes. It’s not like he was running backwards while Tito was trying to punch him. He was moving side to side creating angles for his kicks, and staying out of shot range so that he wouldn’t get taken down by a wrestler. He’s actually very offensive, while being too elusive to get punched much. His offense isn’t Spider Silva, but it’s not Chris Leben either where he’s just going to come forward until either he or his opponent gets KO’d. Maybe some people who haven’t trained in a martial just can’t see how good this guy is.

Most of the people complaining should disconnect their redbull filled IV’s and enjoy the skill. It takes a moron to believe that he was running. He was only backing out of the way of punches. The same thing every fighter does except he’s way better and quicker than every one else at it except for GSP. GSP doesn’t get critisized about it though because he’s a wrestler and he’s generally bigger than his opponents so he doesn’t have to be so patient.

Dana is a punk bitch

machida vs winner of rampage/griffin @ ufc ~89
ufc ~88 thiago silva vs rashad evans for next #1 contender

Wandy and liddell need a couple of more wins till they deserve a title shot

OK, I use to love Tito probably more then anyone I know. Was at one time the only reason I watched this sport. But seriously. It is time for him to put on the pants in this relationship. I am sure he loves Jenna and everything but is it just me or is anyone else here or around the country getting tired of Jenna sticking her nose in this business. Jenna is porn no doubt about it, and a great business woman. I also believe in women standing by there man, but at no times do you see there women making post fight interviews for their man. Seriously, this sport, UFC or whatever, is about the fighter, not there girlfriends or wives or whatever. Dana has made some huge mistakes and so has Tito, but one of Tito’s biggest in my opinion, is letting Jenna be so voicerous in his career. Grow a pair dude. Seriously, Stop letting her take over your interviews, your decision making, and in the end your career. And sorry Jenna, darling you are great in the porn business, but this isnt porn, please sit on the die like everyone else’s wives or girlfriends and look pretty and cheer your man on, but also like everyone else woman, please keep quiet in the puclic about your opinions for this business. No one is taking there clothes off in this one to make a bucj, they are fighting to do so. SO unless she is headlining the mext card, I really dont think she should have a say so whatsoever. She and she only is making me lose all respect for Tito a man that I think could be the face of any promotion out there. But at the same time, when hiring him, kind of like Barry Bonds and his baggage (enterouge) that he brings with him, dont think every promotion out there seeing him bringing his baggage with him….. Anthony

Michida is the ultimate def. fighter in history of MMa!!!!!