Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua wants Chuck Liddell to wait to fight him

prob what people thought about rampage vs rua… i think chuck is prob fav too… but i actually think rua has the standup to beat chuck… he can take a punch too… which is why rampage was able to beat chuck… chuck does well against wrestlers… even when randy beat him he beat him on the feet… i think rua won’t even go for the takedown… and i def think he has the tools to beat chuck… whether he can avoid the counter right on the jaw or be able to take it like rampage does is another matter…

Yeah it seems like Lidells strikes dont bother Rampage whats-so-ever

here is the thing rampage has avery nice boxers stance so he can move with the strikes he sees them coming and you can brace for impact…chuck has always caught ppl in the middle of an exchange. while rampage doesnt hunt chuck he has lured him in all the time…i think with rua’s style very similar to wandy is gonna be hua down fall. he is gonna get caught by chuck…now thar chuck is refocused he has no longer gone to that over hand right fight anymore.

yeah sure for you cuz your not deaf at all…much easier for you..not a whole lot for ppl to deifne themselves on…the fact that he is in MMA and in the UFC above that and has seen really good success is amazing. in mma its essential to be able to stare at your opponent at all time and listen to your corner as well..hamill has to do with one or the other.

Good you finally caught up with the rest of us in our disgust for Gary Shaw.

I like shaw…lets guys fight and earn a livin ala Nick Diaz having 3 fights in 3 months. I just hate his shit talk like Kimbo is god, but keeps feeding him washed up has beens or never weres

Kevin: dont worry Tyson vs. Kimbo will never happen! I am positive about that!

i like chess. just chess & shogun iceman fight connotation is funny to me. – i dont disagree, just funny.

I second that, yeah he had a knee injury, but he was still hanging his hands at his sides durring the second round. Does having a knee injury make your arms tired too?

no… but it gasses you out… you can’t train cardio like you would like to… and clearly cardio was his issue… i sincerely belief if he was fit he would have taken forrest. and yes… gassing out means your hands are by your side… its a classic sign of it… that and open mouth… which was due to poor cardio… due to his knee injury… we didnt even see his trademark knees that rampage knows all about… believe me… if arona, nog, rampage with their skill sets couldnt beat him forrest def can’t. watch him have another breakdown after the rampage fight.

You sound like a Forrest hater with that last comment. Stop making excuses for Rua. He lost. End of story. Give Forrest his props.

For the record, Forrest wasn’t 100% either, he needed shoulder surgery afterwards.

he lost fair and square… for sure… i just dont think if they were both fit that it would happen again… and i’m not a forrest hater… but lets be fair here… he doesn’t really deserve his title shot… an that does tick me off a little… lol… so maybe i am being a hater!

and i think liddell is the fav against rua too… i just wouldnt be at all surprised if rua won…

I would be a little surprised if Rua won. I don’t think it is wise to come back from a loss and 2 surgeries, on the same knee, and then face Liddell in the octagon.

Give Forest Respect over Shogun? Are you kidding? Look at shoguns history in pride and the battles he won. Yeah Forest beat him, but was is impressive? No not at all. Shogun used to fight multiple matches in a day without being winded. That definitely played a factor and on top of that Forest didnt do alot of damage to a winded fighter. Forest is an average fighter and thats it. Sorry

John: Do you ever disagree with what Linx has to say??

Not if he is going to keep producing very intelligent posts…..If I feel the same way, should I argue with him for no reason…. linx knows his stuff, and I value his imput very much!

Chailink r u feeling neglected? Poor baby…. Thanks for the great comment! lol what a valuable contribution to this site!

Rua will NEVER hold the belt, unless he’s fighting in a lesser organization. The UFC LHW division is just too stalked.

Forrest tooled Rua in every aspect of their fight…just a sign of things to come for Rua

Chuck needs to fight quick…he cant be waiting around, in my opinion, he should have already fought again. At his age, its not like he stays in GREAT shape 24/7….hope his injury is healed up now, I say give Chuck someone to fight in August, and if he wins let him fight Shogun later this year, but I dont think that will happen. I’m thinking if Jardine beats Wanderlei then Jardine and Chuck II, will determine the next fight for the winner of Forrest vs. Rampage or something like that.

John, my comment was not a jab at you or Linx. You both have some great views on MMA and I enjoy reading your posts. I was just pointing out that you are always in agreement with Linx and was wondering if there ever was a post that you disagreed with him on. Just a joke, no feelings of neglect here.

In the future use this === > ;)

it’s all good Chainlink, we have disagreed many times actually. Off the top of my head I remember once we disagreed about what was better to fight in, a cage or ring, I love the ring, he likes the cage more. I also think that wandy can take rampage today, he feels rampage will not lose to wandy nor shogun any time soon. We disagree in many topics, and agree in many others. I like John’s input in all threads, and respect his opinion a lot as I’m sure he likes to see what I write as well, but not always do we agree but we do respect each other’s opinion (at least I respect his).

Thanks for the props John, keep up the good work buddy! :p

Same to you Linx: We are a good example of what intelligent debating is all about! We tend do disagree but always in a respectful manner and I value is imput to the site very much….Do u Linx!

He can fight Chuck and probably will, I disagree with the fact that you are saying that he is calling out Chuck because he doesnt want to be forgotten. Do you really think he will be forgotten in all honestly after all he has done for MMA? He is a top contender no matter what. He has beaten a bunch of top fighters including the current champ in convincing style. So as far as him being forgotten, you are being dilusional.

I don’t mean forgotten in that way. I mean that nobody is talking about him getting a title shot, theres no talk about him and Forrest 2. And thats what I mean about forgotten. But by him calling out Chuck, we are here talking about him “Right”

Fair anough then, if you meant forgotten as in a title contender then yes I do agree. But he needs to be looking for the bigger fighters in order to get to that title as soon as possible. Just a misunderstanding

You are 100% correct. They will have to stack AT LEAST 1 card a year to try and out shine Affliction.
I thought you would have put Machida in there before Wanderlei, but either way I’ll be watching.
And you really think Chuck vs. Forrest will happen? Chuck wants another title shot and the quickest route there will be to beat Shogun, so I believe he will wait for him to heal.

BNF: Correction…I ment to say Chuck vs. Shogun, mt bad!

Oh yeah, and maybe Chuck vs. Shogun

We have a winner! You forgot one though, what about Chuck vs. Shogun. Duh.

Well yeah, I figured if Rampage wins and Wanderlei loses, you stick Shogun/Liddell in there.

But yes indeed I did forget that. Apologizes.

That would be a great card. January’s card would really suck though. haha

No, no journalism, took it in high school and was on that paper but that was 6 years ago LoL. I just LOVE MMA and try to not be bias and call spades spades. Dont get me wrong, i have my favs (BJ Penn) but if he fucks up id call him on it as well. If he would have cried “RIB” without posting the xrays/Dr’s reports 2 days later i wouldnt have baught that just cause i love ‘em, i would have said “F*CK, what the hell is wrong with you BJ, i waited for the rematch for hella long and this is how you do your fans you fat f*ck, put down the god damn twinkies, cut down the blunts and bong rips to once a week and get in the gym you chunk! Your the best so f*ckin be the best or your losing a fan and a big fan at that, maybe the biggest fan?” I just love conversing about all this stuff, its fun ya know. ALL you guys post bomb sh*t as well, i just try to earn your guy’s respect with some knowledge and unbias opinions. RESEARCH HELPS!! LoL, and “look eye, aways look eye” LoL

Thats what im hoping, and then when Huerta/Florian fight it can be for the vacant LTWT title. And this would give BJ the time to put on the weight properly while he waits for GSP to fight Fitch.

I think GSP/BJ 2 will happen, but I don’t think any of the rest will. What I do see happening is BJ moving up to fight at 170, GSP moving up to 185, especially if he beats BJ again, and Anderson Silva moving up to 205. I also think Wand will move down to 185 when Anderson moves up. I think part of the reason Wand hasnt yet is because Anderson is the 185 champ, and they are old training partners and friends, and therefore wouldnt fight. Similar to the way Shogun never had a title shot in Pride against Wand because they were close chuteboxe pals.

I agreee! There are a lot of possible shifts that can happen and i look forward to most of them. I see BJ fighting whoever thinks they are better then him regardless of weight, first avenging his 3 unanswered losses, GSP, then Hughes, then Machida, then whoever wants a piece. GSP will move up and it would be great to see his and BJs rubber match (if BJ gets the 2nd which i beleive he will) at 185 once they have both gone up, BJ is undefeated as a fatty at 185 against 2 Gracies who were at there natural weight classes at the time and granted they were both in Hawaii but a W’s a W. Like i said, a lot of interesting stuff!!! All Dana has to do is keep opening that wallet wider and wider and there shouldnt be a problem = ) Dont get stingy now cue ball!!