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Friday Night Throwdown: UFC 84 fight preview part II

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A "Dragon" looks for his coming out party while a "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" looks to be the spoiler in this week’s edition of the Friday Night Throwdown.

In the second part of this three-part series, we will look at the other light heavyweight battle between Lyoto Machida and Tito Ortiz at UFC 84: "Ill Will" at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, on May 24.

This fight could be the fight that could reshape the rankings of the light heavyweight division in the UFC and possibly send Ortiz riding off into the free agent sunset in search of his pot of golf at the end of the rainbow.

It’s time to breakdown this fight for both fighters.

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Machida’s coming out party?

There is no question that Lyoto Machida is one of the most unorthodox fighters in the sport of mixed marital arts today. His style is more of a defense-first, counter-attacking in-and-out style, which throws off most if not of his opponents (he’s undefeated). He is very patient on the feet and waits for all of his opponents to make the first mistake. Once they do, he unleashes a great balance of kicking and striking that just frustrates anyone he faces.

The knock on Machida, up until his utter destruction of Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou at UFC 79: "Nemesis" in December 2007, was his inability to finish fights. He without question laid to rest that myth as he derailed the "African Assassin" hype train in quick fashion.

From the opening bell, Machida took the fight to Sokodjou and dominated the entire bout on the feet and on the ground. It was on the ground, however, where he just about put the Team Quest member to sleep via arm triangle. It’s because of that brilliant performance that he was given the chance to make a name for himself by fighting the popular, whether you like him or not, former champion in Ortiz.

Let’s not get it twisted here: Machida has beaten quality fighters during his undefeated streak. For example, he knocked out Rich Franklin and defeated others talented stars such as BJ Penn and Stephan Bonnar. Yet many The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) generation fans don’t know much about him unless they are diehard MMA fans. This fight with Ortiz could be the springboard that could launch Machida into stardom and easily in the top five in anyone’s light heavyweight rankings.

I would go as far and pick Machida over at least half of the fighters in the top 10, including the likes of Forrest Griffin, Wanderlei Silva, Keith Jardine and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. Of course, I’m going to catch some heat with that last statement but I stand by it. I would even be nervous for Rampage if he were to fight Machida.

Put simply, Machida has defeated several of the best fighters in the world during his reign of terror -- his record isn’t padded with journeymen or gatekeepers, folks.

In fact, he knocked out Franklin in only his third fight!

Machida is battle-tested and will be a significant player in the light heavyweight division for years to come. All he needs right now is the fight that will put him over the top. Enter a former UFC light heavyweight champion and easily of the biggest draws in MMA history.

Enter Tito Ortiz

A chance to stick it to Dana White and the UFC?

It’s no secret by now that this is Ortiz’s last fight on his current contract with the UFC. He’s also made it clear that he plans on leaving the UFC after this fight and explore his free agent options. Ortiz will clearly be the biggest free agent on the market and the UFC would be hard pressed to try and resign him. Therefore, Tito has to be thinking that if he’s going the leave, he’s going to leave with a bang.

And what better way to do that than defeat Lyoto Machida at UFC 84?

The problem that Ortiz will face is to try to take Machida to the ground. Machida is a fighter like I’ve said earlier, will let his opponent make the first mistake. Throughout his career, I’ve seen no big improvements in Tito’s overall game. He’s a one trick pony: take it to the ground and GNP (ground and pound) from there. His striking is still above average and isn’t going to knock anyone out anytime soon. I’ll give him the benefit of a doubt that he is one of better ground fighters in the world but it won’t mean a damn thing if he can’t take Machida down.

Ortiz will simply have to press the action and force Machida to the fence. From there, he will hopefully get the takedown and start to work on Machida. If that doesn’t happen, Ortiz will have no other choice but to try and get the best of Machida on the feet. That’s where his chances to win will diminish in a big way. Unless Ortiz has some tricks up his sleeve, Ortiz is the heavy underdog in this fight.

I won’t count out Ortiz in this fight even though it seems like he has no chance in hell of winning. Love him or hate him, Ortiz will at least make this fight exciting. He may be training as hard as he ever has in Big Bear as we speak … or being Jenna Jameson’s "Huntington Beach Boy Toy" at the club or something.

My theory is that Ortiz has to win this fight so that the price in signing him will have to be very substantial to leave the UFC. It’s clear that promotions like EliteXC or even Affliction will be chomping at the bit to sign him. Ortiz will have to bring his A-game in order for him to win. If he does, boy I can only imagine his post fight interview if he’s allowed on the mic … that’s must see TV right there!

Considering everything we covered, I’ve got to admit that this fight is the one I’m looking forward to the most. Machida is looking to get a shot at the belt while Ortiz will be looking to get paid. Who’s going to win this fight? Check out the site later in the month for my prediction on this fight. Either way, this could the upset special (hint…hint).

MMA news and other notes

Chris Leben gets 35 days in jail and fight with Bisping is off: It’s unfortunate that Leben was sentenced to 35 days in jail yesterday. After serving the sentence, it’s been reported right here that he would only have less than two weeks of training, which is just not enough time to prepare for a fighter like Bisping. But the man did his part to finish up his probation so that he could be cleared to fight Bisping.

The good news is maybe they could add this fight as the co-main event of UFC 86: "Jackson vs. Griffin." Unfortunately, since this fight was scheduled to be fought in London there is no way Bisping is being pulled from the card. In fact, we just learned that he's fighting Jason Day -- a very solid Canadian fighter. It's not Leben, but it could be worse.

The IFL "Hex:" I’m sorry but with the IFL revealing its new plan for a six-sided ring, I’ve officially considered the IFL to be as good as dead before the year is out. I was supporting the company for the sake of MMA, but this whole six-sided ring is too much. It only tells me that they probably think the UFC is the WWE and they’ll be TNA or something. I mean, I had no problem with a four sided ring for the IFL. But seriously six?! I don’t know how much more I can take with the IFL. Good as dead, folks.

The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) wasn’t that bad this week: Although I ripped this season of TUF, I must admit that I’m guilty as charged because I’m still watching it. And this week’s episode was by far the best one this season and it just wasn’t because of Jeremy May. I mean the whole, "I predict Matt Brown is going to win … by murder" prediction by Amir was down right hilarious. And how he finished off May as well, you might have thought it was downright murder.

But in all seriousness, Brown is some character but has to be considered one of the favorites to win the show. His attitude in the Octagon is the same attitude when he’s not in it, showing he’s determined to win at all costs. He did look lethargic the first couple minutes of the fight but as the fight wore on, he took total control. From there, he ended the fight with a beautiful head kick that would make even Gabriel Gonzaga happy. He’s all business and you have to feel sorry for whoever’s in his way in the semifinals.

My favorite part of the show was the Cramer-Zachrich fight to end this week’s episode. That fight wasn’t the most technical form of striking I’ve seen but it was just pure entertainment. These guys were swinging from the fences until they had nothing left. It was back and forth action that left me on the edge of my seat. In the end, Cramer took Zachrich down in the second round and won the fight via technical knockout (strikes) to give Team Rampage control of the next fight.

Best fight of the season by far and I’m definitely looking forward to next week. Couldn’t help but notice that we could see the blowup between Rampage and Forrest next week as well. Got to love when the coaches get angry and all hell breaks loose. Hopefully it puts the Ken-Tito confrontations to shame, but then again it’s just for entertainment purposes sometimes right?

That’s about it for this week’s edition of the Friday Night Throwdown here on MMAmania. Next week’s will be the third and final part of my three-part series on UFC 84. We’ll look at the main event between BJ Penn and Sean Sherk for the UFC Lightweight Title. Agree or disagree with anything I said in today’s column? Be sure to reply in our comments section below (and THANKS for all the responses last week, I was overwhelmed by the support!) or e-mail me at the address right here.

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Pot of golf?

by arodofiron on May 9, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll use that line, it’s brilliant. Whether it was intentional or not!

by Scootah on May 9, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol just a typo, but I wouldn’t mind a big pot of golf every once in awhile.

by Smokes on May 9, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think it is a typo. Tito hasn’t been a fighter in a while. He has to do something to be competative. That’s what a lot of athletes do once their career has fizzled out.

by James S on May 9, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I really hope Tito wins this fight. I know John will say Machida will grow on me, but if Tito can TKO him, I probably won’t have to see another Machida fight. He will fade into bolivian!!

by kevin on May 9, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is bolivian anywhere near ecuadorian? That’s messed up if they ship you to South America for one loss…

by Chuck on May 9, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s an old mike tyson quote!! thats what makes it funny

by kevin on May 9, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not funny if you have to explain it.

by Fightinroundtheworld on May 9, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha. Nah, it’s still funny.

by Jackanapes on May 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont worry chuck after tito smashes machida john will probably backpeddle and become an immediate fan again.

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on May 9, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree about how dangerous Machida is.. I’m a big Tito fan and I hope he pulls this one out.

by pUniSHment on May 9, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Easy money betting on BJ and Lyoto on the 24th, you may not get odds – but it’s as close to guaranteed in the betting game as it can get imo.

-230 for BJ
-220 for Lyoto

Not bad.

Maybe evenly split the bet between both fights to diversify your portfolio and protect against an upset?

by jerrolds on May 9, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerrolds: I am with you! I think these odds are great, especially since I have no doubt that both Machida and Penn will win.

The only thing that scares me about this card, is that I like most of the favorites in the big match ups and unfortunately its rare that all the favorites win, however It wont stop me for betting $ on favorites: Machida, Penn, and Wanderlei. The only fight I am really worried about is the Wanderlei fight….But I cant help myself I am a die hard Wandy fan (as long as he isnt fighting Rampage), and I just cant stop myself from betting money on him everytime he fights. He isnt that big of a favorite, so its worth the risk IMO

by john on May 9, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with these odds, you lose a lot of money when BJ wins and Machida loses. If tito is +200 or more, I’ll lay a grand on that. He needs a contract, what better way to get paid then to beat an undefeated (bore fest) fighter

by kevin on May 9, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DONT BET ON FAT BJ…IF HE CANT WIN IN THE 1ST OR 2ND ROUND HE HAS NO CHANCE….FAT BJ HAS NO CARDIO

by murphylee on May 10, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think “fat BJ” is going to show up that night. It well be the BJ that destroyed Stevenson, and he’ll destroy Sherk.

by Toms Bombs on May 10, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris: I am really starting to enjoy your friday night column. FRiday’s are usually slow in the mma news world you Column sums up the day and gets in depth with key match ups for the next Pay per view. I love it!

I agree with most of your analysis about the Machida/Ortiz fight, my only concern is that you left out a big aspect of the fight….Machida’s High level ju jitsu. I dont think Tito is out of danger if he takes machida down…Machida has an under rated guard, but I will give Tito some credit that he actually is more versed at subs/sub defense then many people think…having competed in Abu Dahbi in the past.

Thew only thing I would have added would be news about Afflictions 1st ever show in July: “Affliction Banned” has been made Official and bothe the Fedor/Sylvia and Barnett/Rizzo have been CONFIRMED!!!!! I obviously am aware of it already, so no complains out of me!!!

Good stuff Chris…..I am a Fan!

by john on May 9, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cris! o my goodness, you’re killing me with all the machida praise, I think i’m going to OD! lol. OK Machida has technique and tricky striking. But whats he going to do with Tito’s strength and cardio when he’s pressed up against the fence and taking shots to the cranium (Matt Hughes style) and KO slamming guys like poor Evan Tanner? I don’t think Machida is strong like Rashad to be able to just bounce back up from that type of destruction. After a couple solid shots, he’ll become discombobulated throwing slow motion karate punches flat footed wobbling. Thats when you hear Liu Kang (mortal kombat) in the background “FINISH HIM!” & Tito bust out his finishing move! “ARRRGGHh!!” GAME OVER. lol

by kama kaze on May 9, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerrolds are you serious about Lyoto being as guaranteed as you can get in MMA betting? I really hope your joking because that is one of the funniest statements I’ve ever read. LOL at Lyoto being a guarantee over Tito. Tito is going to crush him.

by Tom on May 9, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Umm..ya pretty much.

Guaranteed in that youre getting great odds for being so close to a lock. Sherk/Tito are overrated by the odds makers imo, +210 on lyoto is smart money – betting wise.

I’d be very surprised if Tito pulled this out, hell i could be wrong, but i friggin doubt it.

by jerrolds on May 9, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

er -210 not +210 haha

by jerrolds on May 9, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got your back Jerrolds. I think that Sherk/Tito are over estimated by the oddsmakers, and as a betting man, I have to take advantage of it!

UFC 84 = a nice pay day for me

by john on May 10, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another great column. I don’t really have a fav in this fight. I’d like Machida to win so he can continue his meteoric rise… but at the end of the night, I just want to see an exciting fight.

OT: Just watched the McDonald/Doerkson fight from the last UFC card. This may be old news, but if you watch closely, you can clearly see that Jason is confused whether the fight is over — he looks up and the ref (Maz) is just looking at him, so Jason takes a few more shots. I blame Maz in this instance.

by Soups on May 9, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I doubt very much that Tito will be able to pull the upset. Lyoto is waay too sneaky for Tito on the standup, which is usually Tito’s downfall…if he can’t take him down, Tito may very well end up asleep.

On the other hand, I think the Upset Special for this card may be BJ v. Sherk…I’m thinking Sherk is gonna put The Prodigy down in a decision or by GnP late in the fight.

Yes, BJ’s cardio is way better than it usually is, but…we are talking about a full-speed-balls-to-the-wall fight here, and Sherk won’t stop nor slow down…and I think he’s strong enough at this weight to manhandle BJ to the ground and keep him there. I’m not saying this is going to be a pretty fight…I actually am pretty sure it’s gonna be a snoozefest, but…I also think it’s gonna be because Sherk is gonna take BJ down and keep him there, unable to catch a submission, for the entire 5 rounds.

At least, that’s the way my money is going for this card…Lyoto and Sherk.

by Vox on May 9, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IFL…..RIP. i wouldn’t count out tito completley, but i sure wouldn’t bet money on him against machida, no matter what the odds. ortiz has beeen to inactive being a reality star while machida’s been sowing his wild oats in the cage. b.j will make an example out of sherk on what a true p4p fighter really is.

by b.w. on May 9, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can’t stand machida’s style.. so boring

by rob on May 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Machidas style he is one of the most technical fighter in MMA. I hat Titos style.(If Tito fights you know what you get to see. A takedown and ground and pound). I you see Machida you never know what you see next.

by Lyoto on May 10, 2008 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its pretty obvious that this fight goes to a decision.

by Brandon on May 10, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris, you’re a total douchebag for ripping this season of TUF. This season smokes all the other seasons, without question. Would you rather see non-entertaining one-sided fights that we saw last season? Or how about these guys who aren’t even close to sniffing a UFC octagon like marlon sims and wayne weems from season 5? How about other posers like tait fletcher or eli joslin? I mean seriously, 4 of the 5 prelim fights they’ve shown have been very good AND competitive (the rivera fight was competitive, just not too entertaining). can you find that many combined in the first six seasons? Ok, you might, but not 4 in one. Take your head out of your frickin’ arse and show some appreciation for this season of TUF. Best season by far, no frickin’ question about it.

by Clint on May 10, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brown is the favorite for the TUF series now? He looked terrible… he only won after the other guy gassed….

You say Tito has almost no chance to win then he might be your upset special?

by kory klinger on May 12, 2008 9:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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