BJ Penn: 'You cant confuse steroids with heart,' Sean Sherk
by MMAmania.com on May 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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"... I know there are a lot of people out there doing steroids, cheating and every time I run into one of them, I'm going to call them on it and then I'm going to beat the shit out of them.… It's going to be a historic night because all the kids out there will realize that you can do it with just hard work alone … he wants to say he has heart and all this different shit, but you can't confuse steroids with heart.... It's two different things, a guy with heart is a guy doing it with blood, sweat and tears, waking up with the sore back, the sore body.… What would happen in the old days when you get caught with a couple of aces up your sleeve, they kill the guy right there and that's why I say Sean Sherk is dead…."
A fired up UFC Lightweight Champion, BJ Penn, talks about his upcoming title defense against Sean Sherk at UFC 84: "Ill Will" at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, on May 24. "The Muscle Shark" tested positive for steroids after his win against Hermes Franca at UFC 73: "Stacked" in July 2007 and has not competed since because of a six-month suspension. Penn doesn't like steroids or steroid users very much ... this one is personal.
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think.? hell i know he’ll win! this fight is indeed geting very personal.
by b.w. on May 10, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahahahahahaha….you cant be serious, but lets do the math for fun..sherk couldnt finish florian, lost to matt hughes who bj destroyed the first time they fought,sherk couldny finsh franca even when he was juiced, hes a chump punk bitch who should of got the boot from the ufc…bj penn late 2nd or mid 3rd round victory…will not go to the judges…ill pray for you sean the steroid shark sherk
by sherk is a chump on May 10, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With respect to Hughes, lets not forget that Penn got destroyed in the second fight. Say what you want about the earlier rounds and his broken rib. If he even had a broken rib, it was because Hughes broke it, right before he smashed his face about 20 times.
by naturalshadow on May 11, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Natural Shadow, BJ was destroying hughes the 2nd fight, hughes couldnt stand up with him, he couldnt even take him down. The only reason hughes won was because when BJ reversed hughes and then he tore his ribs, hughes did not have any effect on BJ’s ribs.
by andrew on May 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude a loss is a loss, you’ve got to accept it regardless. I know Penn could probably take Hughes in the rubber match but Penn still has a loss on his record. Now if Penn loses to Sherk, there still should be no excuses and the same goes for the opposite. A loss is a loss and at the end of the day you can only add it to experience, like don’t over exert yourself in a fight. If you injured yourself in a fight its still your problem for not knowing your own limitations, but I still would say that Penn never gave up even with broken ribs. My hats off to fighters like that. Anyway Sherk 4th by GnP.
by Smokes on May 15, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sherk! you are going to see what a fighter is all about son! on the ground and all around.
by Kahaluu caz! on May 9, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So Kenny Florian, Hermes Franca, Nick Diaz, Matt Hughes, GSP are not complete fighters?
by "Mr. NC-17" on May 10, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the greatest quote ever. You know BJ is all business now. BJ by amputation!
by bnf on May 10, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can any fight fans not LOVE BJ PENN. He should be in every single fans top 5! He always speaks out about everything and keeps it real. He talks trash and backs it up (unlike Tito). I dont understand how some fans can actually hate on him. He is one of the most skilled fighters on this planet and has a great personality for the sport! He is absolutely right about sherk and I cant wait to show the world that he is on another level.
“In the old days u got killed for getting cuaght with an ace up your sleeve…sean Sherk, ya dead”…Now thats a classic quote.
Tune in Monday on mmamania.com when sean sherk is sure to fire back with some lame George-bush-like, stuttering come back, that makes no sense what soever. I really cant wait till UFC 84!
by john on May 10, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate BJ. He’s an arrogant spoilt brat. I also think he’s challenged in the IQ stakes, a bad combination….
by Rilly on May 12, 2008 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ is a fucking moron. So is anyone who thinks Sherk roided.
I pray that Sherk shuts that cocky loudmouth up.
by Luke on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know I give Sherk the benefit of the doubt due to CSAC’s handling of the test, and the politics behind it. But calling people moron’s for believing he roided is a bit silly. He tested positive, that’s why people believe it. Right or wrong.
And I think BJ will take this. But hey anything can happen, Sherk isn’t a pushover.
by MongoMan on May 10, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you dude. Sherk is not a roider. It was one of those stupid things and BJ is just talking shit like he is always does. He is a pretty ignorant dude and I think Sherk is gonna beat him.
by thetuf75 on May 10, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ talks because he can back his shit up.
by damaja on May 10, 2008 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luke – Is it necessary to use such foul words to get your point across?
by Female Fan on May 10, 2008 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sherk probably didn’t intentionally cheat but you have to look at what happened.
If he had been intentionally juicing do you think he’s just going to come out with it? No. He’s going to hire a lawyer who specialises in getting other steroid users off and make a bit fuss about it all.
You have to look at the facts. The dude tested positive.
by SixT-4 on May 11, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You will be surprised. Sherk could upset. He’s pretty fast and accurate.
by mmafan on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WAR! them’s fightin’ werds if i ever heard ’em!
by wagnerav on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya I loved when he said Sherk was dead during his post fight interview…then when Sean got in the octagon that fat bastard pussed out and shook Sherks hand and told him it will be a great fight….face it…fat BJ is scared of Sean Sherk!
by DaGrizzlyBear on May 9, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you serious? bj has faced much better competition than sherk before.
bj always leaves in a rush after the fight. he always says “visit bjpenn.com!!!” or something like that and then storms out the octagon.
by rhv on May 9, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re an idiot. BJ has fought Machida, Hughes, Gomi, Serra, Pulver, GSP, Renzo and Ridrigo Gracie, I’m sure he’s not scared of the Steriod Shark. Again, you’re an idiot.
by Haze on May 9, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ faced Machida at HW and he’s scared of Sherk? LOL. He faced Hughes twice, wants to face GSP again, but he’s scared of the guy that got tooled by these two? BJ Penn. The guy who licks blood, is scared of a bodybuilding wrestler? Yeah fucking right.
by Pat on May 10, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh how I can’t wait for Sherk to shut Fat BJ’s Mouth! If the fat lazy loser is lucky, maybe Sherk will bust him in the mouth so hard that it will have to be wired shut and he can lose a few pounds! All Sherk has to do is get to the second round…BJ is usually gassed and about falling over by then!
by DaGrizzlyBear on May 9, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk would have to actually throw a punch to do that. All he’s going to do is try to smother BJ with his water-retaining roid-filled man boobs.
by PW on May 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant comments i picked sherk though! im thinking of changing my pick.
by Tony on May 9, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok since i cant start my own thread, when BJ loses to sherk what do you think the little fairy will say. If BJ how bad is he gonna be at the weigh ins. BJ is trash talker how cant say it to sherks face. And when it comes time to put up or shut up. BJ is gonna get raped in the octagon by sherk.
by frankthetank on May 9, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so. I think Sherk will win, but I sure hope he rapes him..
(looks around in an awkward scared state)
by "Mr. NC-17" on May 10, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a BJ fan, but that sort of talk just makes me wonder about BJ and if he’s feeling unsure about this fight. Don’t yap about it, just go in there and take care of business.
Hope his cardio is better than J Lau’s was, or it will get ugly in the late rounds.
by BobC on May 9, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
roids are designed for guys who are bitches and pussies with little or no heart like Sherk. Go Penn!!
by jerkoff on May 9, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First of all Penn always speaks the truth.. He never said anything negative about Stevenson, GSP, Hughes, etc. BJ Penn is a fckn bada$$ fighter, a warrior, Icon, and showstopper. Penn has nothing to prove in this fight. It’s Sherk who has to show the critics if he’s the same fighter without the juice. All the haters on here keep dissin Penn on his cardio, but is that all that you can diss him on? There’s a difference between cocky and confident, and BJ Penn exmplifies confidence. There will be no possible way that Sherk will be able to pass Penn’s guard during the fight. Having said that, Sherk can use his good wrestling skills to try and take Penn down but I doubt it will work. Penn’s a much better striker than Sherk too.
Sincerely,
pUniSHment
by pUniSHment on May 9, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude BJ’s known for talking a lot of smack. he had plenty of trash to say before penn/hughes 2, he talked a lot of smack throughout TUF5, and he still thinks he beat GSP the first time and he can whoop his ass if they fight again.
BJ’s a great talent, but his mouth makes his as good a self promoter as Tito. Difference between the two of them is BJ has skills.
by liukangstoupee on May 10, 2008 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry to hurt all ur feelings but BJ is ganna gas after 2 rounds and sherk will win lol…bj is an amazing 1st round fighter but has no gas in the tank
by adam on May 9, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think two rounds of dry humping would tire even Tank Abbott. Sherk is gonna have to take some chances, and BJ will be all over the first mistake Sherk makes.
by Pat on May 10, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we havent seen him fight out of gas since october 06! he broke his rib that time too! hard to fight with a broken rib! however i dont see him lasting against sherk in the later rounds! could be an early stoppage for bj or could be a late stoppage for sherk or even a 3 rounds to two win for sherk! i say if sherk gets past the first 2 rounds its his from half way through the 3rd! bj will be loosing gas and sherk will be full of fuel!
i feel sherk was wronged by the test! many supplements contain steroids and hormones on the sly to make their customers bigger! if you ever saw lab testing on these supplements you would know some of em can contain steroids! sherk trains very hard and eats all sorts of shit just so he can win! why would he go through that if he was taking the easy route! makes no sense! i cant wait for this fight
by the heat on May 10, 2008 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comment by pUniSHment
2008-05-09 22:32:57
First of all Penn always speaks the truth.. He never said anything negative about Stevenson, GSP, Hughes, etc. BJ Penn is a fckn bada$$ fighter, a warrior, Icon, and showstopper. Penn has nothing to prove in this fight. It’s Sherk who has to show the critics if he’s the same fighter without the juice. All the haters on here keep dissin Penn on his cardio, but is that all that you can diss him on?
ya thats all ur can diss him on, he an amazing fighter but has no gas in the tank.. be needs to go for a long long run
by adam on May 9, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He gassed in one fight(vs. GSP) and everyones saying he has no cardio. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a shame that Penn didn’t train up to his true ability in the past, but fighters make mistakes and then one realize what their doing wrong. Cardio will never be an issue in his upcoming fights. I can’t sit here and say that Sean Sherk is a crappy fighter, because that would make a ignorant. Sherk is an above average fighter but I honestly do not see him being able to defeat Penn. As far as your commnent on Penn’s running, go to his website and watch his training regimen. He goes through six days of gruesome and intense training and on top of that, he goes running on his off-day. To me that’s what a champion should exemplify, and BJ Penn, along with the likes of Anderson Silva, Nogueira, etc is a great champion in the sport of MMA.
by pUniSHment on May 10, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he gassed vs GSP. It had been so long since I’d watched the fight that I decided to get it off UFC on Demand. I was waiting to see where BJ gassed because everybody always talks about it.
I mean yeah, he was obviously more tired in the later rounds than the 1st but I wouldn’t have said he was gassed. I didn’t notice anything abnormal about his cardio.
by SixT-4 on May 11, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe if he isn’t going 100% compared to fighters like GSP, Hughes, Sherk he wouldn’t compare in the later rounds. Its not like he would look like he did in the Hughes fight but he would seem slightly slower and less accurate.
by Smokes on May 12, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lame arguements in here, cadio this cardio that . . . SHerk doesnt have a chance and he’ll be a distant memory at the begining of BJ Penn’s new life. Make ’em pay BJ!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree! penn will have great cardio, but wont need it. i see b.j. finishing this fight no later than the 3rd rnd
by b.w. on May 10, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool interview, “F*ck Sean Sherk and his Steroids!” HAHA!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN, what a fucking grudge match!
I’m looking forward to an awesome fight. I gotta say though, with all this shit talk coming from PENN, he really is setting himself up to be upset. SHERK has remained relatively calm, only reacting to BJ’s trash talk.
Big fan of BJ’s fights, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say a little part of me was rooting for the underdog…SHERK.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 10, 2008 1:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember who talked a lot of smack in the main event and lost?
My boy Matt Serra, he talked a lot, brought up personal attacks, and GSP remained calm, and defeated my boy Serra.
Penn could be doing the same. Obviously, Sherk is not a head case and he is a smart fighter. Im taking Sherk to win.
by "Mr. NC-17" on May 10, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets be real here, this is a time when 99% of all pro athletes are doing performance enhancing drugs of some kind, hell even baseball players. I applaud BJ if he is all natural, he is probably the only one in the UFC who is, if it is true. However, It’s no longer a game where someone will win on knowledge of a certain fighting system alone. Not only skill, but strength is now a very important factor, because everyone saw what Royce did to the early UFC fighters because of their ignorance, and because of this I think that Sherk, being the stronger of the two, may have a slight advantage. BJ is the prodigy, though, and I hope he proves me wrong!
by Jesse on May 10, 2008 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see a lot of people eating crow if Sherk pulls off the upset. I wouldnt surprised if he did either.
by c-war on May 10, 2008 1:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not at all if bj doesnt finish early sherk will finish him!
by the heat on May 10, 2008 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man! BJ is an @sshole. I’ve never liked him and I wanted to when he came back to the UFC. He should have dropped all this ludicrous Sh1t talkin. I’m no Sean Sherk fan(I don’t love him or hate him)but I really hope he runs BJ over and ground and pounds him into the canvas. That of course is just a dream of mine. Where as I hate BJ’s attitude, I totally respect him as a fighter and I do believe if he gets Sherk to the ground it’s probably over. If Sherk wins it will be by decision. And yes BJ I’d respect Sherks stamina and power or you might fall without a defense like GSP did.
Sherk passed a lie detector test, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt and train as such.
by GodannarJunkie on May 10, 2008 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the main reason I give Sherk the benefit of the doubt. He PASSED a lie detector test. 99.999% of people CAN’T beat a lie detector test. I know members of intelligence (CIA) have been trained to pass, but this doesn’t happen over night and it takes a special kind of person to be able to do this. One other thing,is the fact that the commission reduced his suspension to half. It’s like they know they messed up,but they would never admit it or they would lose credibility for future tests. Bottom line is ,if Sherk juiced, we will know it in his next fight, because his performance level will be substantially less without the juice.
by Gord on May 10, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DUDE dont be iggnorant, show me where i can find an official word on this so called lie detector test, what web site either shows this test he took or even mentions that he took it besides Sean Sherk saying he did???? AND They reduced his sentence because of the appeals process and maybe sean made them question themselves with a tiny bit of evidence, you think they would just ruin this guys career and not addmit they were wrong . . . They could make up anything without ruining his career and ruining themselves like we accidently mixed Francas with Sherks and both dirty samples were Francas and we have fired the guy who conducted the tests and we will do much better from now on, case closed. They could make up ANYTHING! Instead they put the MMA sport in jeopardy by saying one of its champions of one of the biggest org’s does roids therefore putting their jobs in jeopardy cause with no UFC no testing to do . . .COME ON!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs, Sherks attorney used this as evidence at the hearing. What attorney would even mention ANYTHING without PROOF. This would just be dismissed as HEARSAY. Maybe it’s all made up,but like I said, we will know the TRUTH when we see Sherk. One thing about the juice that NO ONE can hide or LIE about is the FACT that you SHRINK when you stop taking it. Maybe I am biased,but I was always accused of juicing (even by my own parents).I know FOR A FACT a guy can get as big and ripped as Sherk , without the juice. I’ve been there ,done that and I didn’t even come CLOSE to the scientific diet and training Sherk does. I have a friend that is 5’7" 185 lbs, ripped (without the juice). He is way bigger than Sherk. I can’t say for sure that he didn’t juice,but he passed every piss test, including the Canadian Nationals. However, I do know for a fact that I didn’t juice,so I know it’s possible to get as big as Sherk naturally, Guys that stuggle to put on muscle, CAN’T understand that a natural mesomorph just has to look at a weight to add muscle. Adam, I would bet, you are not a mesomorph.
by Gord on May 12, 2008 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“There is little scientific evidence to support the reliability of polygraphs.1617 Despite claims of 90% – 95% reliability, critics charge that rather than a “test”, the method amounts to an inherently unstandardizable interrogation technique whose accuracy cannot be established. A 1997 survey of 421 psychologists estimated the test’s average accuracy at about 61%, a little better than chance.18 Critics also argue that even given high estimates of the polygraph’s accuracy a significant number of subjects (e.g. 10% given a 90% accuracy) will appear to be lying, and would unfairly suffer the consequences of “failing” the polygraph. In the 1998 Supreme Court case, United States v. Scheffer, the majority stated that "There is simply no consensus that polygraph evidence is reliable" and "Unlike other expert witnesses who testify about factual matters outside the jurors’ knowledge, such as the analysis of fingerprints, ballistics, or DNA found at a crime scene, a polygraph expert can supply the jury only with another opinion…".19 Also, in 2005 the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals stated that "polygraphy did not enjoy general acceptance from the scientific community"."
by SixT-4 on May 11, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear what you are saying, but a competent tester will realize the 10% that have a nervous reaction to every question and rule the test as inconclusive.I know one thing for sure. If I wanted to know if someone was lying, I’d rather hook them up to a polygraph than go with chance. There is a reason law enforcement still uses the polygraph. They KNOW the % who failed and were later found guilty by other CONCRETE evidence. You do have a point though, because it is only as accurate as the guy conducting the test.
by Gord on May 12, 2008 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of how accurate they are, show me a place/website that says Sean Sherk took a lie detector test and passed it. AND it cant be Sean Sherk saying it or being quoted saying it . . . Does the UFC say he did . . . NO! Does CSAC say he did . . . NO! Does a lawyer representing Sherk say he did . . . NO! Does anyone except Sean Sherk say he took this test and passed it . . . NO! As far as im conserened his credibility was already shattered so why would i take his word that he even took a lie detector test let alone passed it and you’d be a fool to believe him. He can make u whatever he wants and you would by it huh . . . If he said he was the UFC Heavyweight champ would you believe it?? Maybe you would?!?
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 12, 2008 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe then people should start focusing on conversations with these people. Nowhere do I see an interview with is laywer or a tester. I haven’t even seen any of CSAC giving information on the case or even an interview.
by Smokes on May 14, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, Sherk did’t cheat. Hermes Franca was on steroids as well=fair fight!
by j on May 10, 2008 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as I think BJ will win, he better not lose or he has to STFU forever. The amount of smack he’s talking is making him look like an ass.
What can BJ say if he loses this match, the dude was roided up? Not if Sherk passes the piss test. He gets hurt or he gas himself out? Dude its MMA your suppose to wear out a guy. He’s distracted? No excuses after all the smack you talk BJ.
The fight can go 2 ways, early stoppage for BJ or Unanimous decision for Sherk. BJ can’t lose or he’ll become a complete embarrassment.
by liukangstoupee on May 10, 2008 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So they both cheat and its ok . . . Hermes did it for an injury so that the fight would still happen, Sean did it to to be able to hurt his opponent more than he normaly would be able to, it sucks on both hteir parts but there is a big difference. PLUS Hermes addmitted it . . . Sherk still act like “steroids, what are those, i had to call a lawyer, do some research, i didnt know what they were til i was accused of it” thats just sad.
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 2:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AND ive heard that there are photos on the net somewhere of Sean Sherk looking completely different now that a year has gone by, i cant find them anywhere . . . I guess we will see at the weigh ins. BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats really sad is thats Seans only hope, how can you guys cheer on a guy who isnt going in there to fight but to out last another guy, what is that, “worlds fitest man” or something, i like to see action and Sherk dont provide that. Period.
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 2:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That or you just dont understand or appreicate wrestling.
by "Mr. NC-17" on May 10, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not his only way to win, but it is probably the easiest. Penn has never shown great cardio.
by naturalshadow on May 11, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look up Sherks fight history. Because he drove three decisions lately he can only ride out a victory. Out of his 18 fights he went to decision three times against guys who are well known to finish fighers. Those 18 fights span back to his first loss against Hughes four years ago. Out of 18 fights he went to decision on 3, tko’d his oppenent on 3, and submitted his oppenent on 10. Of all the 32 fights 35 fights he’s had he’s only lost to the two greatest welterweights around. I think some of you fight fans need to lose your bias and educate yourselves on your favorite fighters oppenents every once in awhile. Sherk I believe will finish Penn in the 4th by GnP.
by Smokes on May 12, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as everyone hating on Penn for speaking the truth, the radio host was an instigater in this trying to push BJ’s buttons. Haha good interview though.
PS: “This is the ULtimate Fighting Championships, NOT the Ultimate Fitness Challenge”. :)
by pUniSHment on May 10, 2008 3:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just to add to all the Penn haters reference Penn’s lack of cardio.
1. Penn has had 18 professional fights.
2. 13 of them were wins, only 5 of the wins were in the first round.
3. His last 2 fights were won at the end or near the end of the second round.
4. Penn took GSP to a 3 round split decision.
5. Penn has a fight average of 2.5 rounds per fight.
Can’t wait until my man Penn chokes out the muscle sherk and keeps choking like he did with Pulver.
by Automation on May 10, 2008 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he uses his monkey legs to invent some sort of simultaneous choke/arm bar. He choke Sherk unconscious, then wake him up with the sound of his arm snapping.
by PW on May 10, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DOPE!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!! SNAP “HuH, where am i and why does my shoulder hurt!” “AHHHhhhh” LMAO!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Penn went 3 rounds with GSP (a strong wrestler like Sherk)and he was GASSED and would’ve been finished in the 4th. Title fights are FIVE rounds. BJ has 2 rounds to finish Sherk or he’ll be finished. This fight isn’t going to a decision.
by Gord on May 12, 2008 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, he was tired but wasn’t gassed and that was against GSP who arguably has the best cardio out of anyone.
Does Forrest Griffin have bad cardio?? He was gassed against Bonner 1 after 3 rounds. The answer is no, he has great cardio!! So how does Penn have bad cardio Gord
Penn can go 5 rounds but won’t need to against Sherk
by Automation on May 12, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we’re always supporting you, BJ. one hundred and ten percent.
before the fight, lets bodysurf sandy’s. hopefully there’ll be a south-swell. shoots!
by boardRIDER on May 10, 2008 6:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m a little tired of hearing this crap, “Can Sherk beat BJ if he’s not on roids?”…I don’t think all the steroids in the world will help Sherk beat BJ. BJ is a more skilled fighter. Period. As long as BJ comes in in good enough shape, he will win. If Sherk wins, steroids are not the deciding factor.
by utaptout on May 10, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell me if these names mean anything to ya . . . LoL!!
Joel Blanton
Lee King
Brodie Faber
Eric Heinz
Jake Short
Mark Long
Charles Taylor
John Alexander
Jutaro Nakao
Jason Purcel
Ryuki Ueyama
Kaleo Padilla
Scott Bills
Steve Gomm
Johnnie Holland
Kurtis Hensen
Ken Parham
. . . LoL, If BJ Penn faught half the CAN’S that Sean Sherk did he would have a 30 and something record too! HA! Do you guys even recognize one name on that list!!! While BJ has like a 50% Title Fight Ratio against world champions and Sherk is 0-2 against world champions. The only time Sherk has beat Top Ten’ers was twice, and both are Karo Parisyan way back in 2001 by TKO and even farther back in 2000, and yes, by decision! Loss to Hughes, Loss to GSP, the only significant win he has is over Kenny Florian LoL! IF you get rid of all the CAN’S on his record Sean Sherk is 5-2 . . . (2overKaro) ARE YOU KIDDING ME!! Place your bets! (All info from Sherdaog.com)
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All cans except for Jutaro Nakao. That guys has beaten Shinya Aoki.
by Pat on May 10, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol thats funny that you would say you do you recognize any of these fighters. I bet if you were given a list of pretty elite fighters that don’t fight for the UFC or WEC you probably wouldn’t know their names. Hell none of you heard of Silva till he came to the UFC. A bet alot of fans didn’t even know who the Last Emperor was until Randy wanted to challege him. I’m glad your atleast looking up some of the facts and all but Penn lost to many top contenders. For example GSP, Hughes, Pulver, draw to Uno, lost to Machida. Sure he has some big fights but he is like a coin flip against these big name contenders. You also only named a little over half of Sherks wins. What method did he use to win those bouts?
by Smokes on May 12, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Nick Diaz . . . I know I know, Shers claim to fam! I counted that in that 5-2 win column by the way. And those are barely half the CAN’S Sherks decisioned for wins LoL, like i said . . . PLACE YOUR BETS!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m putting my money where my mouth is -230 odds for BJ is easy money. Thanks for paying for my drinks that night Sean “The Needle Shark” Sherk!
by jerrolds on May 10, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk has got this. He never juiced and had plenty of proof that the tests were flawed. Stop hugging BJ’s nuts just because he is the better trash talker. He’s hyping himself up way to much. BJ is good but I still don’t understand why he is so overrated?
by Lord Levi on May 10, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ is not overrated. BJ is an incredible fighter, I will give him that. I personally can not stand BJ Penn by the way he handles himself outside the octagon, and he is a huge fact for the UFC and the way he acts disgusts me. But yet he is one of the best pure fighters when he does not gas in the whole entire MMA world.
Sherk still will beat him. Period.
by "Mr. NC-17" on May 10, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ Penn has struggled against bigger stronger wrestlers, who push the pace and work BJ on top.
Look at GSP and Matt Hughes, they both defeated BJ by wrestling and also wearing down BJ. BJ has not made it past the 2nd round since his return to 155.
Sherk is going to beat BJ.
by "Mr. NC-17" on May 10, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When BJ wins this fight, Im gonna talk so much fuck’n shit to all you BJ haters!!! Its gonna make you wish you never should have ever commented on this fight!!sherk is a fuck’n waste of time for BJ!!!!!!!!!!!
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 11, 2008 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It goes both ways, you’ll probably feel sorry about calling out Sherks fans when Penn loses. I’d say you will be even more sorry based on the evidence that Penn is a Prodigy who can lose.
by Smokes on May 12, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kick back with friends from Hilo who grew up with BJ, his brothers and Troy Melendoza cuz our kids play together. They tell me all kinds of stories about Troy playing soccer and how BJ was a little skinny kid who nobody thought twice about and how he used to cheat on tests in school and fights he got into at hotel parties or wherever. Its a trip cuz when I’m hearing all this and trying to not show that I’m going insane cuz thats 1 of my favorite UFC fighters and they refer to him in peer terms so I’m just trying to play it cool. Besides crystal meth, MMA in Hawaii is reeeeaaally blowing up now like football because little scrappy kids relate to him and see fighting as their ticket off the islands. There’s a ridiculous amount of gyms and dojos down there. Its good to see BJ take a stand on the steroids issue and stress heart in sports to set a good example for the younger generation. Everywhere you go, more than ever in hawaii, teenagers are calling each other out randomly in public bathrooms for sport basicly. lol. And luckily, theres not as much guns as there is in the mainland. I could understand if nobody gives a shi*t about this 808 report. But little has been left unsaid about BJ. WAR MFken Penn!! NOW GO REPRESENT HAWAII & MAKE ME SOME $$$!!! lol
by kama kaze on May 10, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NICE inner look into my favorite fighters early life, thanks Kaze
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
setting an example for the younger generation?? Like sucker punching a cop then getting tackled by him outside of zanzabars? Dont make me laugh. Both fighters are bad role models in my opinion. I see this fight going into a draw. Sherk trips, knocks out, lands on bj and suffercats him with his man tits. GO MACHIDA!
by Leeward on May 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
leeward, the story goes: a PLAIN CLOTHED COP started funk wit BJ’s brother Regan at zanzabars then somehow BJ got involved and ended up falsing dude. After the fact, the guy then revealed that he was undercover. So there you go! another punk with a badge trying to start shet! its not like dude was wearing the uniform and regulating the scene. just another bitch instigator…. all you sherk fans: told you so! f@ck machida
by kama kaze on May 25, 2008 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fighting cans like i listed above to compile a fat record is how you become overrated! For all of you that dont know what overrated means . . .
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 10, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ is going to annilate Sean “The Needle Shark” Sherk. I really like that nickname for Sean.
Lets all wait and see what happens cuz in the end all we look for as fans is a good fight. BJ is fighting so we know its going to be a good fight.
by Min on May 10, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer “The Human Roid-Blanket”. No offense to Sherk, but that’s pretty funny.
by SixT-4 on May 11, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this is why … BJ Penn is the man.
by bostonmmajunkie on May 11, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk will never ever beat BJ , not in a MILLION YEARS!!When BJ wins this fight Im gonna say “I told you so” so many times, your gonna have nightmares about it!!
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 11, 2008 3:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And hopefully we never hear a word from the sherk lovers out there again.Cause they won’t have a thing to say, except your “OOHH he got lucky” bull crap!Come on now, you know thats gonna be thier excuse! Sit the F#@* down!
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 11, 2008 3:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what are you talking bout? I hope BJ doesn’t kill’em foreal. lol. HAWAII FIGHTERS ALL DAY! chyeauh!
by kama kaze on May 12, 2008 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe people defend a boring fighter that cheats. People killed Matt Lindlnad when he was with the ufc but at least he never cheated. Call BJ fat all you want, the fact is he was fat, at 170. Now, that he is back to 155, he has to train harder or he won’t make weight. It will be BJ by rear naked choke in round 3. Or Sherk will try to have sex with BJ for 25 minutes, one or the other.
by tc on May 11, 2008 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bj is a bitch ,he said sherk your dead ,when sherk confronted him ,the pineapple kid cowered in behind joe rogan and in a little girls voice muttered lets have a good fight …gimme a break ,did u penn nutthuggers forget that ,sherk and lesnar,larson ,theyre fuckin animals ,cornfed farm boys ,and besides csac also said and I QUOTE WHILE THERE ARE NO REASONABLE READINGS INTO ANY ANABOLIC FINDINGS ,HIS TESTOSTERONE LEVELS WERE 2/4 MORE ,SHOWING NOT ONLY ANY PROOF AT ALL ,THUS THE REASON ,FRANCA STAYED SUSPENDED AND SHERK WAS CUT SHORT ,SO B4 U YAP COCONUTFACE MAYBE U SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT ,BJ TALKS TO MUCH SHIT WITHOUT FINDING FACTS FIRST ….HE WILL LOSE 2 CD RND BY EXHAUSTION ,SHERK IS A MACHINE,EVEN ST.PIERRE SAID SHERK WAS STRONGER THEN BJ
by CIDCYANIDE on May 11, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A cornfed farm boy animal . . . The dude fights CAN’S!!! Take out all the CAN"S that Sherk has faught and his record would be 5-2!! You dont have a clue newbee, your arguements are laughable . . . BJ has faught at 205 so why would he ever be scarred of a 155er and why would he have said something in the first lace and why come back in the ring to reply to Sean, to show sportsmenship and make Sherk look lke an ass which worked pretty well seeing as how the rudest thing that occured in the ring that night was Sean Sherk cutting into and pretty much not allowing Joe Stevenson to get a post fight interview, right. He could have said what he had to say at a later time, the mic belonged to BJ and Stevenson. But yea, BJ is scarred of Sherk LoL, hes gonna fake an injury to get out of this fight, hes not gonna show up in Vegas LoL, get real dude, that 5’6 midget couldnt intimidate 85% of the UFC’s fightes especially not the one that licks his opponents blood off his gloves after he crushes them. 13 days, 13 days and there wont be anything left to say . . . Unless BJ doesnt show cause hes sooooo scarred LoLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on May 11, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CIDCYANIDE:
Your just a complete hater.
Mr. NC-17:
I know your a knowledgeable MMA fan, but you said that Stevenson was going to beat Penn at UFC 80. I know you don’t like Penn, but is your prediction of Sherk winning an emotional pick? To me, Sherk’s wrestling skills is not much greater than Joe Stevenson’s. The only thing that Sherk has over JoeDaddy is cardio. BJ Penn is the best pound for pound BJJ MMA fighter in America (second in the world to Anderson Silva). He’s a lot more well-rounded MMA wise than Sherk is, and I don’t see anyway that Sherk comes out of the fight a winner. I agree that I am a biased BJ Penn fan, BUT I give points to the things that I say. I am interested in what your answer is.
by pUniSHment on May 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FYI , BJ’s trainer made him go back in the ring and say that.If not BJ was like “F*@K that F*@K’er leave him in the ring looking stupid”! Talk about fagging out, what did sherk do or say when BJ got in the ring?,Not a dam thing! Not even a F@#K YOU, or “Im the champ” to his face!NO, what did he do, stuck his hand out for a hand shake from a guy that just called him out! Thats what I call being a PUSSY!& by the way GSP is a IDIOT!Don’t believe the hype!
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Where did the GSP hate come from? That wasn’t even on topic. I admit I don’t like B.J., but I will never say he isn’t a great fighter. That being said, he will never beat GSP.
by naturalshadow on May 12, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(CIDCYANIDE) made a comment about GSP saying “even sherk is stronger then BJ”.Thats why I said GSP is a idiot & don’t believe the hype.F#@K’N dummy.
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 13, 2008 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND HE WILL BEAT GSP WHEN THEY MEET AGAIN! Maybe GSP will have better speech and won’t sound so much like a robot.I……..AM………not……..impressed………by…………your……..performance…..F$@K GSP TOO.
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 13, 2008 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo, what part of Oahu are you from?? he real westside of Waianae/Nanakuli or the fake westside of Kapolei?
by pUniSHment on May 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Every body’s just going round & round in circles, with the same old argument’s! Lets all just shut the f*@k up & see what goes down that day! All you f@#kers were dead wrong w/ the Joe daddy predictions you’ll be soooooo wrong w/ this one also! BJ’s gonna so put a end to all your speculation’s I can promise that!! Once again, FUUUUUUUUUUU@K sherk!!!!!!!!!!!
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WESTSIDE/OAHU:
Where are you from, Waianae or Nanakuli?
I’m from Mililani/Waipio.
by pUniSHment on May 12, 2008 4:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WAIANAE, whats crack’n cuz?!I know I sound all nuts & this page is for all fun intended, but (BRAH) some of these guys on this site……they just don’t know…..“(YOU) get what I’m saying cause your from here”. HAWAII"S just different from everywhere else. They like sherk, and we like BJ, & that’s how it is until the MAY 24.
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 13, 2008 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember how silly BJ made Hughes look on the ground in their second fight before his rib popped? Hughes is a better wrestler than Sherk. Its gonna be hard for BJ to sink in a RNC without rocking Sherk first though. I hope he shatters Sherk’s nose with a knee on the way in for a TD, and then makes him so bloody, the octagon will look like a murder scene. BJ Penn by first degree murder with 4 minutes left in the 1st round.
by utaptout on May 12, 2008 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard theres RECENT pics of sherk.. anyone know where i can fucking find them??
by Leeward on May 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, (Naturalshadow) the GSP comment came from a comment by “CIDCYANIDE” about how sherk was stronger then BJ That’s why I said that.
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 13, 2008 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t care about Sherk, GSP or any other losers. Nobody can look as good as BJ or fight like he can.
by MISS JULY! on May 13, 2008 3:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can anyone actually say with a straight and honest face ,bj is stronger and better cardio wise,,,,no!!!and this has been his problem points in the past with gsp and machida if you will,i beleive sean is some where in that range ,and when pineapple kid flapped his jaw sayin your dead and sean ran in the ring bjs tune change really quik from your dead to a nervous lets have a good fight which the words tumbled out over a quivering lip,please mma fans dont be hockey fans where the evidence is needed to watch over and over again ,admit what is fact and thats actually what we are saying is FACT AND ONLY FACT …BJ OPENED HIS YAP AND SEAN IS GOING TO CLOSE IT GUARENTEED..IF HE DOESNT WIN ,I WILL APOLOGIZE ON HERE SUNDAY IF SHERK LOSES I PROMISE
by CYD CYANIDE on May 14, 2008 4:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brah" you must not know how Hawaii people think! Hawaii fans are brutal.(Example)Do you watch football? I think you do. We loooove UH football to death BUT when UH starts losing games they should win, we f@$K’n DISOWN THEM. Atleast I do! Just like our fighters its the same thing. If BJ loses I’ll be so pissed off for making us look like fool’s!I"LL probably call him every name in the book & I really don’t know if I would watch him fight again, it would depend on the way he lost,its just how i feel,& thats why that f@#ker better win!!!!
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 16, 2008 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do have a straight face on & my middle finger up,& yes BJ is stronger and his cardio will be better then sherks!How do YOU know how good sherks cardio is?? He could have been on the juice all this time but they only caught it now? You don’t know that for sure & you can’t tell me Its not a strong possibility.
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 16, 2008 3:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“FYI” He got robbed w/ the GSP fight & the Machida fight should have been a draw! HE barely pulled that one off.
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on May 16, 2008 3:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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