Chris Leben sentenced to 35 days in jail; UFC 85 fight with Michael Bisping is off (Update)
by MMAmania.com on May 8, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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MMAmania.com just learned that middleweight fighter Chris Leben was today sentenced to 35 days in jail and will be released on May 27, 2008 (he gets credit for time already served), which would give him only 12 days until his scheduled showdown with Michael Bisping at UFC 85: "Bedlam" at the O2 Arena in London, England, on June 7.
It was apparently too close for comfort, forcing to the promotion to scrap the bout, according to WrestlingObserver.com.
No replacement for Leben is known at this time. However, "The Count" will remain on the card -- his presence as a high profile British-born UFC star is perhaps more important than any other in the field who can put butts in seats.
"The Crippler" turned himself in to the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office in Portland, Oregon, on April 30 because of an old Driving Under the Influence (DUI) probation violation. He did so to obtain a travel visa overseas, but it appears that things did not work out according to plan.
Neither Leben nor the UFC have issued statements at this time. Stay tuned for more details.
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He has to call of this fight for his well being. If he goes in the cage with very little cardio and time to prepare he could get destroyed by Bisping
by matthew on May 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, thats the best place to train. Dont you watch those MSNBC Lock_Up specials? Those dude get all ripped up.
by The_mexicutioner on May 8, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol he’s in Jain not prison. He’ll still fight he’s crazy… and the crazy part is he’ll win.
by Smokes on May 8, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eff it all i know is chris leben will get the top bunk no matter what!! lol..and he will get his chocolate milk! i can see him now!! “hey you gonna finish that!?!”
by twizted203 on May 8, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you want the bottom bunk ,he should pull out of the fight, doing any time in county jail is a nightmare terrible sleep, terrible food, lots of noise and lots of goofs ,he will not be prepared, even prepared ,bisbing will beat him, hell kalib"no heart" starnes beat him.
by robd on May 8, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I would say he would be fine to fight, but he wont be able to get his supplements and he will have terrible nutrition in there. Bisping is wayyy too strong at 185 to go in short of 100% with him. Its too bad though. A dominant performance for either would have been a great set up to a really entertaining title fight with Silva.
by EazyEismydad on May 8, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mexicutioner! “jail is the best place to train” Bisping is training at the Wolfslair Gym and will have top fighter such as Vera and Irvin coming to his gym. He’s Eating all the right nutrients and is probably walking around at 190lb as i type this.
On the other hand you have a fighter who is known for his rock hard chin and his lack of conditioning and is walking around at about 205lb!
by braveheart on May 8, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uuuh, I think Mexicutoner was joking with you. Don’t hold on to Bisping’s sack too tight, he may want more children. LOL
by OJR on May 8, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasnt joking. I was totaly serious. As a matter of fact, I bet he planned this all back to the very date he got the DUI. That guys is always thinking ahead. He is such a genius. (uh, joking!!!)
by The_mexicutioner on May 8, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
braveheart: How do you figure Leban is known for lack of conditioning? Remember TUF, he was the only guy to pass the conditioning test and he did it hung over!
BTW, I have braveheart tattooed on me. Scottish need some representation in the UFC.
by bnf on May 8, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leben is NOT known for a lack of conditioning!
by chefdaddy on May 8, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAN, this SUCKS. I, like most, was REALLY looking forward to this fight.
About Leben’s conditioning, it is just fine. BNF made a great point about TUF 1 and the conditioning test – he “out-stamina’d” Kos, Diego, and everyone else.
Throwing a lot of punches takes a lot out of you. For a good example, look at this past episode of TUF. Jeremy May got tired after throwing 2 minutes worth of punches. Yeah, his conditioning was awful, but the phrase “let him punch himself out” is valid. The only time besides the Kalib fight that Leben really looked winded was against Terry Martin. That was a 3 round SLUGFEST.
by ViolentMike on May 9, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you can do cardio in the pen, you can jog in place all day, fall on your belly, jump up, you know what I mean.Let me tell you all, if he does his time, shows up, and wins, he deserves a LOT more respect. He will get mine!!!!!!
by iagoof22 on May 8, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was really excited about this fight! But no way should leben be allowed to fight Bisping with 12 days to prepare!
If it was Terry Martin i could understand
by braveheart on May 8, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Day is the replacement fighter.
by TonyDrip on May 9, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s if he can control himself here in Hawaii. Dude just got arrested for trying to pick on some kids at a 7-11 by bashing the kid’s car window. I guess that’s how some people get prepared for a big fight, by picking on someone smaller.
by Niu Valley on Jun 6, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, 12 days probably isn’t enough. The only positive thing that might come from replacing him is it might be free on SPIKE??
by TonyDrip on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its Bisping! Leben will only need 12 days of training to knockout that poser.
by Ray on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray I’d like to see you step in and fight Bisping
by braveheart on May 8, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s an intelligent way to debate.
by Jrandolph on May 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I have enough training to beat him! I’ve never done any jail time but I have a couple of nutty relatives that have and I think with some intense training with them I can do it in only 12 days as well!
by Ray on May 9, 2008 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you watch 83? you are a poser dude, bisbing is the real deal @ 185
by robd on May 8, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, robd! You sound a little bitter. I know Bisping is your Idol and all but I did watch Rashad and Hamill beat your boy down. He is not as bad as you would like to believe.
by Ray on May 9, 2008 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pond jumper Bisping is not a finisher! He hasn’t finished anybody but that big pussy Chainsaw, which you really should consider that Chainsaw sucked! Oh yea when he won TUF he could finish that nobody either. Bisping luck out because he was about to be exposed for his great overratedness!
by mac daddy on May 9, 2008 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the math isn’t working for me… did he already spend a week in jail? did he turn himself in on the 30th? is he getting out with only 5 days until the ppv? or is the sentence for 28 days?
by sickshotbri on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i meant 23rd (not 30th)
Also this all assumes he has been in jail since he turned himself in.
by sickshotbri on May 8, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that when you sit in jain waiting for sentencing it counts as time off of your sentence.
by Smokes on May 8, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep its called credit for time served.
by kitsunex on May 8, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You also only serve 50% of time given. Ex: Judge gives you 10 days, you will serve 5 (that is at state level, federal is 90% time sentenced minimum.)
by chefdaddy on May 8, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you have some serious priors. However, I believe Leben is a first time offender.
by Jeff on May 8, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think too many of us have experience with this sort of thing.LOL
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First time offender or not, bail jumpers are rarely given the benefit of the doubt.
by PW on May 9, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love to see those two fight, but he should be replaced. I don’t want to see an unprepared Chris Leben get knocked out by the ‘Count’. Sucks.
by jess on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
12 days isn’t enough time for anyone to prepare for a fight. expecially against someone like bisping. but chris is a fighter, and he has alot of heart.
by CBfighter on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHA The American idiots who say Bisping is average have gone quiet! Bisping will win If he was in jail or not! IDIOTS!
by Tony on May 8, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously dude, don’t make dumb ass vague comments calling people idiots.
I happen to like Bisping as much as Leben and I bleed Red, White & Blue. Now you’re going to look like the idiot if you boy gets knocked out by a guy who’s only been out of jail for 12 days.
by TonyDrip on May 8, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah very true since he got taken down by mccarthy! took him for ever to hurt him!!! and almost got koed by sinosic!! and submitted by schaffer!! and lost to rahsad by sh*tty decision the truth is homeboy or should i say bender! you took this subject out of context and made it a prejudice thing! you are very ignorant…i dont ever judge a fighter form where they are from…but just as fighter!! sure he is in another league! the can eating league!
by twizted203 on May 8, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony theres not need for comments like that and iam from the uk. This is MMA not the olympic games!
by braveheart on May 8, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed i have nothing against an fighters origins or support for it!. i just see them as fighter thats it! guys like him give fans and their country mates a bad name! and just ope a whole can of hateful comment from other ppl!
by twizted203 on May 8, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you braveheart. Tony is mistaken in believing that one’s place of birth determines anything other than nationality.
by chefdaddy on May 8, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony, you constantly preach of Bisping’s greatness as if you have a poster of him above your bed. Please let me know how he’s NOT average. I’ll gladly respond to it. And you have the wrong impression that a lot of people don’t like Bisping b/c he’s not American? That makes you an idiot and a chump. Plenty of Americans like fighters from other countries, while the only reason you like Bisping is b/c he’s from yours. Idiot!!!
by chefdaddy on May 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And when you respond Tony, do your homework. Don’t say your normal 1 sentence opinion w/o backing it up with facts.
by chefdaddy on May 8, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bisbing is average at best. happy now, tony
by rob on May 9, 2008 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just shows how little you know about the sport.
Name me 4 people BISPING has decisively finished…
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…you can’t, cause he hasn’t finished 4 people decisively. Bisping is sub-par at best and is no where near being in another league compared to Leben.
Leben has finished way more fights decisively than him and has produced WAY MORE entertaining fights.
BISPING = OVERRATED
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chad,
Actually, only two of Bisping’s 16 fights have gone to decision. Most were wins by(T)KO. Bisping, is very capable of finishing. Now if you want to talk about the competition he has finished… well then you might have an argument. As you well know most of those fights were in th UK. To be fair he was the LHW champ in his promotion, but the guys he fought were not of the caliber of those on the UFC roster.
Therefore, I don’t think Bisping is as overrated as he is truly untested. Leben is (was) a great fight for Bisping. Let’s see what he is made of and where he falls in the MW division.
by Jeff on May 8, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he is VERY untested, but as we all know, who you fight in the smaller promotions really doesn’t mean anything until you’re tested against the elite. He hasn’t impressed me in the UFC since his come from behind win against ELVIS, and even there he wasn’t dominant, but he showed a lot of heart.
I still feel people over-hype BISPING way too much. Less than a year ago people were calling for his head over the HAMILL fight. Now he beats a less-than-stellar Charles McCarthy and everyone is calling him the second coming at MW.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I agree. Listen, I’m a fan of Bisping, but in no way is he ready for the cream of the crop MWs. I really hope this fight still happens, I want to see what Bisping can do against a true puncher. By the way, I agree with your assesment of Bisping’s UFC fights. He did show tremendous heart in the fight against Elvis. That being said, I think he should have dominated that fight. The Hamill and Evans decisions were very close, but as you eluded to, finish the fight and don’t make them close.
by Jeff on May 8, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. We are totally on the same page.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, most of te guys in cagerage are not in the same league as UFC, however you should note that Anderson Silva was the Cage Rage MW Champ before joining UFC.
by UKmmaBOY on May 9, 2008 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent comment, couldn’t have said it any better myself!
by Ray on May 9, 2008 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony, please back up your opinion with facts once in a while to help prove your point. Intelligent debate helps sway people to your point of view.
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has been in jail since he turned himself in. Since he violated his probation he was held without bail being set.
by the king adrock on May 8, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate to say I told you so, but if he didn’t have a fight over seas coming up, he would have NEVER turned himself in. He hasn’t changed a bit, and you can track my comments back, I said the judge isn’t dumb, and he’ll make an example out of him. If he was fighting in the states, he would never have turned himself in. He hasn’t changed as a man, he wanted to get paid. Serves him right, and lesson learned, make your court dates fellas!!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some of you obviously haven’t got a clue what you are talking about saying he “hasn’t changed” and “the only reason he turned himself in was so he could fight”. Leben tried to settle this matter over a year ago and some azz-hole probation officer wouldn’t let him transfer his probation to Hawaii where he was being offered the job of a lifetime for most MMA fighters. I believe in being a “stand-up” guy myself but it looks like the only person willing to try and resolve this matter is Chris…..not the system.
by leben2006 on May 8, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t realize the people in charge have to allow him to go to hawaii. Do the crime do the time. If the job wanted him that bad he could have finished the “drunk school” and fines and then gone. He didn’t kill someone, so I highly doubt that they are just screwing with him, there are plenty of worse criminals to screw with
by kevin on May 8, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have a friend in the similar situation. he was on probation. he had the oportunity to move a couple states away and get a GOOD job and not hang around with teh same people that he was getting in trouble with. his probation officer refused to transfer his probation.. so he said fuck it and moved anyway. he had to better himself.
by kitsunex on May 8, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he’s changed, you can see it in that drunken youtube video of his friend punching him. He’s really got new friends and is trying to better himself!! good point leben2006!! lmao
by kevin on May 8, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hate to pat myself on the back, but ANOTHER good call by me!!
Back to golf on the wii!!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ay kevin, what happenned to your Lutter/Serra bets? How did that go? lol
by kama kaze on May 8, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by kama kaze on May 8, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was in training(most likely) before he went to jail, but this will be cutting it close. making weight should be okay as long as he’s close to 185. this is alot to ask of leben against a talent like bisping, but chris has alot of heart and will probably get it done.
by b.w. on May 8, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
plus this would realy hurt the live gate if bisping is scratched. im sure they could find a replacement but not of lebens caliber.
by b.w. on May 8, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol lebens caliber??? the only reason people are buying tickets is because Bisping is english, this card isn’t very impressive! Put quarry in there, he didn’t get a good work out last month, and that would be a good test for the count
by kevin on May 8, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lebens only lost to silva and macdonald. quarry would make a fine replacement. but imo leben is the better fighter of the 2. im not a fan of lebens, thats just the way i see it. leben is a top 10 mw in my eyesand quarry is just on the cusp.
by b.w. on May 8, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol and we all know how good he is. Quarry /Bisping would be a good fight!!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by b.w. on May 8, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and quarry was destroyed in 1 rnd by franklin, lol and gets rocked in almost all his fights lol, big deal fighter a beat fighter b and so on. it doesnt mean anything, i dont know how this got started but if leben and quarry were to fight, id pick leben. they are both stand-up sluggers and i think leben has the better chin. i do think bisping can beat both guys.
by b.w. on May 8, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Making weight won’t be a problem, it’ll be conditioning. They base their meals on a 2000 calorie a day diet. As an officer said to me years ago when I told him their food f ing sucked, he replied, “This is designed to keep you alive, want to keep from losing weight? You better get canteen.” Canteen are the extra items you get when people from the outside put money into your account. So he will have a very improper diet and no place to do any cardio. WAR RAMEN NOODLES!!!
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, gotta give it to you, Kevin. You hit the nail on the head. So much for the card.
by OJR on May 8, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks bro, I appreciate the props. I’m not just some moron teenage kid trolling, even when I say crazy shit, there is a point to it!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin, get off your soap box!
Like all of us well respected MMA fans didn’t see this coming.
Earlier you said the fight card “wasn’t that impressive”?? Wow, you’re joking right? I think the UFC more than made up for the loss of Liddell, not to mention the undercard that was already stacked before the Iceman’s injury.
Do you really follow the sport?
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This card wasn’t great with chuck/evans. I agree, the undercard is great, but what about a main event. That’s why they call it that. If they just didn’t have a “main event” for this card, I’d say it’s stacked. Do you really think chuvk/rashad was going any other way than chuck ko’ing him in the 1st?
by kevin on May 8, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey Chad, exactly what makes someone a “well respected mma fan?”
by kevin on May 8, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so I guess you think HUGHES/THIAGO isn’t a good main event?
Kevin, let me ask you something. What main event would you make that would just make this PPV a blockbuster? Please…enlighten me.
Also: well respected MMA fans are people that follow the sport, are knowledgeable, attend PPV fights as well as LOCAL cards, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, build the sport up more than tear it down.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s a decent main event (not because of Hughes) because the styles should make it interesting. I think BJ/Sherk is a main event. I thought silva/hendo. I think fedor/Timmy is a main event. I actually am looing forwrd to the tuf finale and seeing diego sanchez
by kevin on May 8, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. It should be an awesome bout against Luigi.
I would really like to see FRANKLIN/HENDO. That would be a main event as well.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Hendo would take Franklin.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 9, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can say one thing for leben booooty time lol
by adam on May 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys want me to really impress you??? next up, UFC releases this douche! He’s exciting, but they release guys for less. They are trying to legitimize the sport, they will not condone a guy who had warrants and no intentions of making right with the law…Mark my words!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No way will they release him! And if they do they will be making a big mistake! you think you know everything.
by matthew on May 8, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let one good call go to your head man. UFC is releasing boring/losing fighters. I will mark your words and I hope you are willing to fess up to being wrong. You can hold me on this, I think Leben will still take the fight, and win. Making it almost impossible for the UFC to cut him.
by Smokes on May 8, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem admitting when I’m wrong, it happens so infrequently!! I don’t think I know everything, just go by my track record..don’t hate matthew!!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I was wrong once, but it turns out I was mistaken.
by PW on May 8, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch Lebens out, thats lame. I guess I can’t be right about him beating Bisbing if they don’t fight. Alright then I think they should bring in Franklin like I suggested elsewhere.
by Smokes on May 9, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the UFC was going to release Leben, it would have already happened. Dana LOVES the way Leben fights. He knows it’s going to be exciting and almost always a KO, regardless of who wins.
by TonyDrip on May 8, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
Now that is a bullshit prediction if I ever heard one!!!
He just recently signed a 6-fight contract and they’re gonna release him for an OLD crime? Yeah…that sounds right.
Leben isn’t going anywhere.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop the press, Kevin. I agree if, and only if, Leben drops his next fight. If Leben comes out and is impressive, Dana and Zuffa will know that he puts butts in the seats and cash in their pockets. However, if he loses, bye bye Leben. Just my opinion.
by Jeff on May 8, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leben is on a 2 fight win streak. He loses 1 fight and you axe him from the UFC?!
NO WAY MAN.
People can say what they want, but LEBEN always puts on an entertaining fight, win or lose. He’s a warrior with a 10-3 record in the UFC. Anyone who wants him axed from UFC and their weakest division, MW, is absolutely crazy and just hating on him.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance. Leben not only has a much more impressive UFC record that any of the fighters that were cut, but he always puts on an exciting fight (minus the Starnes fight) and he has a fan following. Much more so than any of the cut fighters. Leben’s contract was just up recently and he was planning in leaving the UFC and spoke quite candidly about doing so. He wanted to and was ready to leave the UFC. But the UFC wanted Chris Leben and the got the deal done.
Leben is in the UFC to stay.
by ViolentMike on May 9, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres no way chris walks around at 205 and will probaly gain about 5-10 pounds in jail. So bisbing will fight someone else. Atleast Chris dosnt have to worry about this hanging over his head anymore.
by Ron Jhun on May 8, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You DO NOT gain weight in jail!!!!!!!!!!!
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he will get lots of training in the can man
by Harry Triangle on May 8, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they can replace him with franklin or hendo?
by Harry Triangle on May 8, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me? First of all Franklin already said he wouldn’t fight on the card. Secondly, Bisping is several wins away from facing that kind of talent. Quarry would be a good replacement for Leben.
by Joe Smith on May 8, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There building Bisping up! theres no way Hendo or Franklin will step in.
MacDonald,Quarry,Sakara would be the likely replacements
by braveheart on May 8, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardio won’t be a factor in their fight. I will be amazed if it gets out of the first round. Leban has a huge heart which will make up for the lack of cardio anyways. Remember the first TUF he was the only one to pass the cardio test, and he did it hung over. No way Leban passes up this opportunity to whoop on Bisbing.
by bnf on May 8, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it will take him like a week to get a passport!!
by yoda on May 8, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
never traveled huh yoda?? he already has a passport (I’m sure) he needs a work Visa. England doesn’t like thugs entering their country. Mike Tyson can’t go, Snoop dog had to fight and sue to go. Passports and work Visa’s are different though man!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Chris would use that time to get ready for the fight while in jail. War Leben!
by Easycompany on May 8, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
people arent seriously buying this card are they??? i mean fans gotta show dana somewhow that putting on a shitty card like this and charging isnt gonna fly w most fans. there are over 150 fighters and matchups that would be interesting to watch. There are fighters who would step in at any moment to fight eachother and get paid it so i dont get it when they pull of a weak card like this! This one should def be FREE on spike. I will have no problem paying for the following one w BJ and tito etc. but NOT this one.
theres no need for leben to call off this fight either. most fighters stay in shape for the most part, they eat & breathe MMA so a few days off wont make much of a difference, especially for the type of fighter leben is either way. Im hoping he puts bisping to sleep.
by blah on May 8, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed, they cut the rest of the weight in final week, and this card sucks regardless. I’ll buy it, but I buy em all! If he’s still on probation after the jail stint, they may not allow him to leave the state, never mind the country.
and for the guy who said Leben “will get the top bunk” you do realize that there are a lot tuffer guys out there than Chris Leben, and a prison fight has no rules!
by kevin on May 8, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do people always try to get people to not buy cards? That is just stupid. Everyone said the card with BJ/Stevenson would suck and we should’t buy it. What happened, sick card, I think we got to see 8 fights on PPV. There are tons of good fights on this card. You could flip flop the under card with the main and I would still probably buy it.
I agree with you that Leban should and probably will still fight. It won’t get out of the first round anyways so he won’t need much cardio. The only way he won’t fight is if for some reason Dana says no.
by bnf on May 8, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he’ll fight unless probation says he can’t leave the state or he can’t get a visa.
by kevin on May 8, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he’ll still need to find a ride to the airport!
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AGREED!
These are your classic Message Board Bitchers living up their stereotype who make all of us other true fans look bad.
The card will rock! They’ve probably been watching the sport since the premiere of The Ultimate Fighter. Big names don’t always make great fights!
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree chad, a lot of undercard fights are better than so called main events, but you need a name to bring in casual fans. I’ve been an mma fan for 10+ years, and Matt Hughes (a big name) doesn’t excite me as much as the Brandon Vera fight! Like I said, Chuck/Rashad didn’t excite me at all
by kevin on May 8, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see you are a 10+ years fan and not some bandwagon. I as well have been a long time fan, following it since the first event in Colorado.
Chuck/Rashad was pushing it for a headliner, but in my opinion HUGHES/THIAGO is a classic “pass-the-torch” test for Thiago. He beat Karo and is obviously in line for a title shot down the road after Fitch/GSP. This will see if he is the real deal against the Top Tier talent. New vs Old. I like this match up, but I am going with HUGHES. The man has only lost to 2 people in the past 7 years: GSP and BJ PENN. To me, besides GSP, the fight is always Matt Hughes’ to lose.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool Hand Chad:
You are obviously very passionate about MMA and that’s great. BUT chill out with the whole “true fan” vs. bandwagon deal. You should be happy that a sport that you follow is slowly gaining the recognition it deserves.
BTW – Chuck/Rashad would have been a snoozefest. Rashad with his lay-n-pray, trying to avoid Chuck’s bombs. Zzzzzz…
by OJR on May 9, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OJR:
I agree Chuck/Rashad wasn’t main event worthy, I stated that earlier.
Now, about the chilling…
I am ecstatic the sport is where it is today. I have several friends who fight. I love that there are fans out there that support MMA and that the fanbase is growing vastly. BUT, what I do have a problem with is people who have NO KNOWLEDGE OR CLUE about facts and fighters that get on internet message boards, state bullshit facts based on there own personal opinion with nothing to back them up. Not only do they push just their opinion, but they show that they truly don’t know the sport at all.
So, do I love that everyone on MMAMania is watching the sport? YES, I love it. But don’t comment on things you know nothing about with nothing to support your opinion. Provide something to back your point up instead of making bonehead calls. Maybe if you had stuff to back up your argument, you could sway people to your side.
just my opinion though.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 9, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine there are too many unknowns and it would be too big of a risk to not look for a replacement to one of the big fights on the card. Can Leben train enough, will he make weight, will UK customs grant a work permit to someone straight out of jail, etc etc. To hope it all works out is just too much of a risk to the card and saleability of the event.
by The_Bantam on May 8, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
u make some good points! i don’t think the ufc will have a problem looking for a Leben. In fact i think there will be fighters eager to fight Bisping.
A win over Bisping in the uk, in a paper-thin division will be a short-cut to the number 1 contenders spot.
by braveheart on May 8, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even close. The number 1 and 2 contenders are Franklin and Hendo. Bisping would get beaten to death by either of them. So a win over Bisping will not ‘catapult’ anyone anywhere. They might just step up a rung on the ladder.
by chefdaddy on May 8, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got to say it again—who was managing/looking out for this guy? If he had resolved this several months ago, no problem.
Can Dana risk having him on the card? He may lift weights in jail, but that’s a lot different than an MMA workout. If he fights and gasses in the first round, Dana will make a lot of people mad.
Free on spike is my call, whether Leben fights or not.
by BobC on May 8, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The obvious decision would be for Kendal Grove or Evan Tanner to step in because there fighting 2 weeks after and are probably already in shape as it is
by braveheart on May 8, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bisping got asked to drop down a division due to lack of challengers at MW. Under normal circumstances neither of these guys would fit the bill of demonstrating Bisping going through the gears towards a title bout. However, given that Bisping has only just dropped down the weight, he still needs to prove himself and either of those guys could at least keep his momentum going.
by The_Bantam on May 8, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kendall Grove vs Michael Bisping. The Season 3 TUF winners square off in the octagon. Its marketable.
by ViolentMike on May 9, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, especially when considering the UK audience. TUF 3 got a lot of people interested because of the Brits involved so despite Groves slump in progress and fall from grace, he is relatively well known. Not a bad alternative at short notice.
by The_Bantam on May 9, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, Grove is scheduled to fight Tanner at the TUF 7 finale. The TUF 7 finale is pretty freaking stacked. They can probably re-shuffle and get Grove or Tanner to fight Bisping since supposedly Quarry turned down the fight due to minor injury.
by ViolentMike on May 9, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Total bummer. This was the only fight that I was really excited about. Too bad. I’m actually looking forward to a lot of the fights, i’m just not excited.
And there is absolutely no freaking way the Leben will get cut by the UFC. He’d have to lose three fights in a row to get cut.
by DonnyG on May 8, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol. ay there goes the “after” pic for Proactive commercial! HAHA! UKmmaBoy ViolentMike, Stagger-Lee where you at?
by kama kaze on May 8, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha. lol, kama kaze!
I almost forgot about that..
by Stagger-Lee on May 9, 2008 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This BLOWS!!!!!!!! Ruined my morning. Close to ruining the event. I see Kendall Grove, Nate Quarry or Evan Tanner would be perfect opponents for Bisping. Unfortunately, Grove and Tanner are booked to fight at the TUF Finale.
by ViolentMike on May 9, 2008 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes ViolentMike I completley agree…I read this news last night, and I too was pissed..I posted just the other day how release date’s can come with “fuckery”, and I hoped Leban would get out in time, but unfortunatly, he is not..I wonder If he will still fight..If it was me, I would not take the fight..I so badly want to see this fight. Part of me is saying “I hope it happens”, BUT, part of me is saying “I hope he does not do something foolish like take a fight with 12 days prep time.”"(it’s not worth it).
by Stagger-Lee on May 9, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very much agree. I really really really wanted to see Leben KO Bisping. I would love to see the Count out on his back wondering where he is, and in his home country no less! Damn you Leben!
by Toms Bombs on May 9, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Leben’s heart will be telling him to take the fight, but he needs to listen to his brain and coaches – he simply can NOT take the fight. Not only is a big fight and all, but the fight also takes place in the UK – where he’d have to adjust to the time difference. Most fighters fly out to the UK at least 10 days before the event. Leben will just be getting out of jail. He has zero time to get in training. The last two weeks is cool down period where you actually do very little training.
by ViolentMike on May 9, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like everybodys counting Leben out. All I know is that if Leben somehow gets the W, I’m buying Leben memorabilia as a reminder of determination and will to win.
by kama kaze on May 9, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kama Kaze, the fight in cancelled.
by ViolentMike on May 9, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leben had two big wins in a row, kind of sucks for him. He won’t be driving anywhere for a couple years.
by mma blaster on May 8, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i say push the fight back too ufc 86 and move a ufc 86 bout to ufc 85 like mir vs mccully
by bryant on May 8, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leben should have not let this get as far as it did. The Judge should have given him more and he should have to pull out of this fight and be put on the back burner. What is this the NFL?
by Vette on May 8, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn this sucks, I hope he whoop all lot of jail punks or Leben haters.
by jerkoff on May 8, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leben probably started cryin’ like he did on TUF. Bisping is a ball sack who dropped to a lower weight because he was comin’ up on an asswhippin’ by any top light-heavy. He didn’t even beat Hamil
by mindsquasher on May 8, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He shouldn’t take this fight then for sure. He’ll be very out of shape.
by facethemusic321 on May 8, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The big loser here is Bisping. From his point of view he’s constantly accused of fighting cans, but obviously doesn’t get to choose his own fights(and apparently wasn’t happy about having to fight Tuppaware). When this was announced most on this forum agreed it was a true test for Bisping at last. Now if he goes in and destroys Leben everyone will say it was because of jail.
by aNDY on May 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True comment. Bisping is normally served cans on a silver platter. I think it’s time he starts calling people out!
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should have Danny Abbadi replace Leben.
by Zilla on May 8, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
quarry is a good replacement.. otherwise if he can’t fight they could air the nate marquart fight which i want to see
by markg on May 8, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Acutally it’s gonna be “Colonics” Ruediger. He shouldn’t have trouble making weight this time.
“Just put me back in, please just put me back in, I can do it, just put me back in”
by Joe Smith on May 8, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That fight would mark the first time I would cheer for Bisping!!LOL
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I volunteer to fight Kevin with the winner getting Bisping.
by Harry Triangle on May 8, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you can do cardio in the pen, you can jog in place all day, fall on your belly, jump up, you know what I mean.Let me tell you all, if he does his time, shows up, and wins, he deserves a LOT more respect. He will get mine!!!
by iagoof22 on May 8, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope the fight still happens Chris is crazy and I remeber what my pops taught me never fight a crazy man. Remember in tuf show Chris would say He could stay out all night smell like booze and dirty strippers and still put the stamp on kids
by Franko on May 8, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love america actually! im sick of knowbody giving him any credit at all!!! He got robbed of Evans who cuddled and tried to make love for 2 rounds? then he got a shot at chuck? thats how close he was to chuck? He said sorry about the Hamill stuff? you are the haters because he is British. isnt that the truth?
by Tony on May 8, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am American and like Bisping and have since TUF. Can’t stand Leben and haven’t since TUF. This is 1 person who really wanted to see Bisping destroy Leben.
by Vette on May 8, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT BECAUSE HE’S BRITISH, YOU IDIOT!
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMARated.com seems to think that Quarry will replace Leben. They report that sources say Quarry was the backup plan if Leben’s legal troubles worsened.
by Jeff on May 8, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whats your prediction then? i say Bisping by Tko jail or no jail? this weight class is Bispings bitch! he is bigger then most in it. i cant see anyone stopping him until Hendo or silva and maybe franklin. I believe Bisping will get a fight with Silva.
by Tony on May 8, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Bisping gets a fight with Sylva, then the UFC spin machine will have been working overtime to justify it.
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG Bisping will get credit now then if he wins? a happy Bisping fan!
by Tony on May 8, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just messaged bispings youtube page to ask if Quarry is stepping in for Leben.
by Tony on May 8, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leben should not have put himself in this position. People praise him because he has changed, but if he really had changed he would not be sitting in jail and very possibly missing a big fight. If he does fight and loses that takes away from Bisping and questions will still be there about how good he is.
by Vette on May 8, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This warrent was due to him breaking his probation by moving to HI to train. He had a dui three years ago, this hardly makes him a thug. People are acting like he robbed a 711 or something. What is crap is the district A wouldn’t let him move in the first place. I had the same situation happen to me, and I just mailed in monthly reports. I hope this fight still happens, just on another card. And for the dude that said the Ufc will release him, thats not happening. The Ufc releases fighters due to preformances in the octogon, look at Sherk, he was found guilty taking a illegal substance, and where is he now? Leben has a lot of heart, thats one of the most important things in mma.
by massass on May 8, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine Bisping will fight Leben after he breaks Quarrys skull!
by Tony on May 8, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HaHaHaHa.
If Quarry does replace LEBEN. I would honestly give the edge to THE ROCK.
by Cool Hand Chad on May 8, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I like Quarry…but he has to be one of the most UN-Technical strikers out there, all he throws are wild hay makers, thats why he gets clipped so often because he is usually WIDE open down the middle, and he’s really not as fast as Bisbing IMO…Good night Quarry i think.
I thought Leben would have given Bisbing a better test
by ToeLock on May 9, 2008 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quarry is not un-technical! See his fight with Lodune Sincaid? Picked him apart!
I’d still pick Bisping tho
by McGranners on May 9, 2008 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC 85: “Less than Stellar”
Dunno why this card isn’t free, my prediction is worst PPV drawing card of 2008.
by DirtyML on May 8, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dirty,
While there were rumours that this card would be free, I really think that we are looking at a PPV beacause of the economics of staging a fight in the UK. I’m not sure how the UK comissions work. However, with the weak dollar the price of staging an event in the UK increases.
by Jeff on May 9, 2008 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone up for a Patrick Cote/Micheal Bisping Fight???
by TapSnapOrNapBJJ on May 9, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like it. i think cote is alredy signed to another fight at the moment. but that could easily change. this would be a great fight. better than bisping/quarry.
by b.w. on May 9, 2008 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im glad you say that! more should show there predictions on here? but don’t be a stranger when Bisping breaks bones!!!! MMA MANIA IS THE BEST SITE ITS EASY TO USE AND ALWAYS HAS THE LATEST NEWS ON THE SITE FAST.
by Tony on May 9, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Mike buy a t shirt Bisping” haha he always says buy a t shirt….
by Tony on May 9, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and if they do fight quarry/bisping Quarry beats him easily come on now if Sinosics cardio was the same as Bispings he would have beat him this guy is way over rated Elvis had him on the ground but just gassed all we need to see is someone with cardio and they will destroy bisping he’s explosive for the first round and a half but then he turns in to the ole Mike Tyson Factor last the first round and a half and he is nothing.
by TapSnapOrNapBJJ on May 9, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope bisping gets KTFO no matter whos hes fighting
by Hamilton on May 9, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could anything more go wrong on this card?
by GSP4Prez on May 9, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lts official. joe silva has officially scratched this fight per the wrestling observer. dont know if bisping is officially off the card though.
by b.w. on May 9, 2008 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ha! just kidding! I KNOW ITS ON THE ORIGINAL POST. just seeing if anyone is still awake.
by b.w. on May 9, 2008 1:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m tired of looking at CHRIS LEBAN’S FACE!!!
by THORAZINE on May 9, 2008 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a prick Leben is!
Step up Nate Quarry!
by MoonUK on May 9, 2008 2:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
put nate quarry in the bisping fight instead
by steve p on May 9, 2008 2:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
id just scrap the fight altogether,bring marquadt/laites on to the main card and put lebing/bisping on ufc 86 card.that card is definitely not as strong as this one and could do with spicing up imo.
by SCOTT on May 9, 2008 3:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bisping got lucky he will fight some lame ass fighter
by Mr.FancyPants on May 9, 2008 3:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I live in England and bumped into Bisping on Sunday afternoon in London, and he said he had been in discussion with a fight with Quarry due to Leben’s issues. So you heard it official here first!!!
by Lee on May 9, 2008 4:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leben should get the chop from the UFC!!!
These men are professional athletes and he is sat in the slammer for drink driving! Does anyone else think this is a big deal? in the UK you can get booted outta the military for drink driving! say all you want about the count but he wouldn’t be pullin stupid stunts like this!
by mike on May 9, 2008 6:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike,
Leben is in jail for a probation violation. While the probation stems from the original DUI, Leben is not in jail for a recent DUI offense. Still, not smart to not take care of this sooner.
by Jeff on May 9, 2008 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FELA’S LISTEN ACCORDING TO WRESTING OBSERVER QUARRY WAS CONTACTED BUT IS CURRENTLY INJURED!
http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=22817
by braveheart on May 9, 2008 7:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TapSnapOrNapBJJ – sinosic? Wrong weight division but go and see the end? blood everywhere he got stompped! How can you compare that Bisping to him now? He looks 5 times more fit and sharp i know it was only Charles Mcarthy but even Charles said he was average.
by Tony on May 9, 2008 7:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand he could train in jail? have you seen charles bronson britians most dangerous prisoner? a caged animal who does sit ups and push ups all day! he would kill kimbo & fedor! here is charles bronson – http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WaVMuEqaMZI
by Tony on May 9, 2008 7:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he was joking braveheart. But yes, he seems to be an idiot.
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that freaken blows!! i was hoping to see a great stand up war. to see who has the better chin
by PHIANSOURI on May 9, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rarely have I seen so many posts to a thread on this site.
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
guys…Leben is a cross eyed slugger, his fights represents something you see in a city centre on a saturday night, i watch UFC for Mixed Martial Arts, not swinging haymakers for all the idiots who dont appreciate the sport and competition, if i wanted that id watch heavyweight boxing, which is just as bad… i like skilfull fighters..
Sakara could have ended that fight but he got drawn into a slug-fest coz he’s so fcuking stupid… and lets not forget he couldnt even put away Starnes for god sake…..
and your talking him up??
by Dead/Rabbit on May 9, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet if Leben had one wish, it would be to savagely avenge his loss to Starnes.
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ultimate fighter 3 winners face off
Michael Bisping v Kendall Grove
Does that sound good?
by braveheart on May 9, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be a good fight, but Grove is already taking on Evan Tanner at the Ultimate fighter finale.
by Haze on May 9, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d actually bet on the Count in that matchup.
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the most post i have ever seen!!!
i am not sure how the jail system works in the US but out
here in canada he would of never got 30 days. he would just have to pay up some money. thats unreal. maybe i missed it but did they say how long he had a warant out for or when u got the DUI
by irish on May 9, 2008 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where o where is Dan Henderson, calling Dan Henderson…
Yes, I know the UFC would never put Bisping up against Hendo especially in Britain, but right now doesn’t that seem logical?
What about Yushin Okami? He has not been “offically” linked to Anderson, it all has just been thoughts.
Rich Franklin can’t fight right now, he feels like he can’t peak at the right time.
So I dunno who is available to fight at 185 that has a marketable name to go against Bisping.
Maybe Nate Quarry? He didn’t get hit in his fight so that could happen.
by "Mr. NC-17" on May 9, 2008 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really wanted to see Leben/Bisping, but thats a good idea there, Quarry would make an interesting substitute for Leben.
by Jase on May 9, 2008 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bisping would be wanting to fight dan henderson instead of leben because he wants to prove himself more and i hope that fight happens
by boyer on May 9, 2008 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leben is going to get himself cut soon. The UFC was made to look foolish scheduling this fight when Leben was basically a fugitive from justice. The Bisping fight won’t happen, and unless Leben’s next fight is a spectacular win, he’ll be gone quickly. That’s if Leben even gets a next fight.
by Fred on May 9, 2008 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that. Leben brings in money. He is a fan favorite. Most of the guys cut so far, wont be missed. I was looking forward to his fight the most on this card actually.
by c-war on May 9, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right c-war its all about his performance. look at all the crap the nfl and nba put up with, but as long as a guy can perform,he’ll get alot of chances. if he sucks no problem hes gone. leben has one punch ko ability and has redeemed himself w/ wins over sakara and terry martin. it seemed like they might cut him after his loss to grove,(and it had nothing to do w/ his legal problems)but since he’s popular they kept him around and he won fights. winning is evereything.
by b.w. on May 9, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t possibly read through all these comments, but 201 comments?! holy cow!
by wagnerav on May 9, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know if Leben had a good Come-To-Jesus chat with Dog the Bounty Hunter while he was on the lam in Hawaii?
by PW on May 9, 2008 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think he ran into dogs wife, that would push anyone to turn them self in
by robd on May 9, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sucks. This fight was the one I was looking forward to the most. Very dissapointed.
by c-war on May 9, 2008 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mania! What’s the record for the thread having the most postings?
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They should change the name to UFC 85 ‘Cursed’, next mike swick or vera will get injured or something.
by j-money on May 9, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow this is going to make the UFC look like SHIT
by daniel on May 9, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW this has to be a record breaking 219 posts.
by Ktown on May 9, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else noticed how all the stories that get the most posts ussually involve Bisping in one way or another!?
by McGranners on May 9, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He definitely polarizes all the fans and makes for fun debate.
by chefdaddy on May 9, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, with the UFC not mentioning anything about this fight. Joe must be trying to sign someone for this fight. Word is Quarry picked up a minor injury? Is Cote ready to go? I can’t see Tanner or Grove being moved from a TUF card to what amounts to a co-main event on a PPV.
by Jeff on May 9, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey everyone, I’m just posting because I want to be included in this record breaking post count.
Have a great weekend.
by tripleainto on May 9, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think i have something to do with this record? no? hahah free charles bronsen!!!!!!!!!!!! freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Tony on May 9, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know its to early but if they offered hendo i know Bisping would take the fight! there is clips of bisping after one of his fights in the uk saying he wants to fight the axe murdered and forrest griffin!
by Tony on May 9, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
232 comments, that is the most in a long time. Nice to see Leben stir the pot a bit in the MMA world. To bad it is for going to jail and missing a fight!
by mac daddy on May 9, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s totally HOT!!!!!!!!!! and I love to watch fight!!
by H.A. Caley on Nov 10, 2008 3:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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