most boring fight in TUF history.

I was pretty much thinking everything Dana said at the end of the match. Sene did all the damage and didn’t get hurt AT ALL. The only thing Rivera did that was impressive to me was the ankle lock attempt. His takedowns were useless.

There really needs to be some kind of change in how MMA is scored. Way too much weight is given to take downs. It’s a fight. Take downs don’t really do damage, they improve position. Position is important, but the point of a fight is to beat the other guy up, not sit on top of him.

I was having trouble deciding what to watch: that fight or my toenail’s growth. The toenail won.

Rivera just sherked his way to victory.

Pretty bad when the best part of an episode is Rampage getting angry.

Dante wins by Hug hump.

Not Dantes best showing, but sometimes a wins a win. Obviously its not good when Dana says that the loser won, and I can’t totally disagree. He just used his BJJ only in this match. Its obvious to all that the UFC doesnt tolerate this in its fights, laying n praying wont get you booked for fights, it’ll get you released. Almeida, soon to be new king of the 185 division.

matt hughes said it best in season 6 “where do they get these judges from, do they put an add in the classifieds saying we need judges.” the brown vs. may fight should be a good one.. hopefully

you know, I was expecting Dante to be a whole lot BETTER because of his experience, but he sucked. He did no damage whatsoever…. That was bad judging. All he did was take Brandon down and kind of laid on top, didn’t really do much sub attempts (other than ankle lock attempt) and no pass attempts.

Fighters like Yushin Okami and Sean Sherk kind of have the same philosophy, but they kind of do it more convincingly, that they deserve the win. I actually like those guys even though boring, they are effective and show true skill but Dante had weak take downs and didn’t do much to deserve a win.

Although Brandon didn’t do much either, when they were standing apart, he should have fired a lot more strikes to show he was winning on stand up.

Horrible fight by two undeserving fighters. I can’t wait to see Brown v. May, that will be awesome. Let’s hope next week’s episode will make up for this one…this week’s episode sucked.

The fight would not have been as boring if Dante would go get in the bed if he wanted to sleep. Sene won that fight with out a doubt, he worked three times as much as Dante off of his back. I don’t ever care to see him fight again. If Forrest truly believes that dude won that fight he’s crazy. I also believe the judges should have to study mma so they can make better decisions, they are playing with peoples lives.

riddel in the beggining was funny with how he was excited about getting an xbox after he lost.

How can dante say he is better at jj than sene when he never came close to a submission or even tried for one besides that
ankle lock.

Honestly I seen Dante win this one. What damage did Sene do? Dante won the 1st and 3rd round hands down. Regardless of what happened in the 1st and 2nd the 3rd decided the winner and Dante won the 3rd. I agree the fight was boring but I agree with the judges.

Can anyone please tell me if that guy the really annoying one who put lemon juice in the other guyz drink lost?? i dont’ know the TUF people this season. but can anyone please tell me if he lost and hopefully got kicked out of the show… he really rubbed me the wrong way after beating rampage friend talked that much shit

All right. This is a rant from last week. I watch the previews for the episode where Tim S fights Riddle and there’s a quick shot where Forest is screaming into the ring…“that’s f’n illegal, ref”. So I am excited to see what that was all about. So I watch the whole episode and I never see anything referencing that sound bite. WTF, UFC? Man, I was pissed because it reminded me of the local news mentioning at the top of the newscast that there was a “shark attack” or some big story and of course they don’t air that story till the end of the newscast so you are forced to watch the whole hour. Felt like the UFC pulled a fast one. Did they?

Even though last week’s fight wasnt ‘technical’ it was still entertaining as hell. This fight made me more interested in text messaging then I was in the fight. What a yawnfest.

Sene has some strength, great athlete with a bit of talent… with the right direction he can be a maniac @ 185. Rivera had about nothing. But I dont think the fight should have went to Sene. Granted it could have gone either way, but the guy on top wins the fight, simple as that.

And I do not see how not improving your position or inflicting damage from the top is considered a “dominant” position.

It’s more like timidity on the ground, and there needs to be judges that can tell the difference between someone who has a dominant position, and someone who is just laying on someone else.

I gotta agree with Dana’s comment about who inflicted the most damage. Since he’s in the position where he could push for a change in the rule or policy about how the fights are being judged.

Chris Leben arrested for DUI in Oregon last night!

as far as judging goes, they need to use a system that is some kind of mix of the ufc judging and pride judging…too much stupid crap is going on, like fighters taking someone down, falling asleep on top of them, and then winning.

and judging from this fight, Dante would have gotten worked by matt riddle

Sene did all he could to win the fight, Rivera gave a terrible performance. How could a guy on top could not do some decent GnP, unless he is worried the opponent will squirm out while landing blows? Hell’ Rivera could have landed 1 or 2 quick shots, Tied it up in guard, do it again over n’ over.

What a waste of a TUF episode.

I think takedown and control is worth some heavy weight in a round by round decision. However, if the guy on bottom is inflicting more damage and the guy on top is not trying to GnP or risk some submissions, then the round should go to the guy on bottom.

I understand Rivera had dominate position and even side control, but he hardly did anything with it, while Rivera was landing lots of elbows,forearms.

Sene won the fight IMO.

Rivera won this via a clinch n cuddle strategy!

crap fight! it gives us all hope of making it if they can get on the show!

reason # 187 why this show is garbage. look at the calibre of these guys. One of these guys is a future force in MW division. Scrap the show. its garbage.

Dante=Wet Blanket, maybe his new nickname should be Linus. The only damage he TRIED to inflict was with 1 minute left in the third round. Sene tried to stay busy and was active on the ground. To many times judges think whomever is on top is automatically assumed to be dominant. Sure dominant from the stand point that he was laying on him, not dominant from the stand point of who is inflicting the most damage.

Secondly, damn I would hate to piss off Rampage! That boy looked like he could have killed a Rhino!

Who cares about last nights fight, neither of those guys were ever going very far in this series anyway. Next week is the fight to look forward to. Matt Brown had one of the most impressive wins in the prelims, can’t wait to watch him fight the tobacco bandit next week.

Rivera was pathetic, mostly because he looked like he was gassed by the middle of the first round. That would explain why he had no energy for the g+p and why his shoots looked so lazy. I think Forrest’s conditioning training will help this guy.

As for Sene, let’s face it – what’s the best defense to a lazy shoot? How about a knee to the head! It was there on every shoot, but Sene couldn’t or wouldn’t pull the trigger. His skills were very questionable even though his conditioning was vastly superior, but I don’t think a few knees in the clinch and a few elbows off the ground should be enough to win a fight.

Hats off to Jesse for this article. It was more exciting than the episode itself.

Big props for the Yul Brenner Westworld reference.

Yawn.

 How sad it is they have to show the entire fight. I’d like to see some video of the pool cleaner working on the filter for ten minutes for filler.

I look forward every week to your post… love the sarcastic humor. If anyone hasn’t watched the episode yet don’t even bother watching the fight. The recap told of the fight is actually a ton more entertaining than watching it.

I disagree with the total gym comment. Flimsy, yes, but only so that you can fold it and put it under the bed when you arne’t using it. What good is it if you can’t fold it and put it under the bed?

Dante is a big smack talker but does nothing to back it up. He’s content to take the guy down and smother him. I’m sure he has JOD. (Jake O’brien Disorder)

Did anyone notice that when they were up against the cage, Mazagotti (sp?) called for them to stop. AFTER that Rivera took Sene down and Maz responded with " OK, fight". Seemed a little weird to me.

DId anyone notice that this is the WORST fights in TUF season’s history, boring as hell, both these guys should just be KICKED OFF the show for such a boring performance.
this was just as bad as mike swicks last fight! ;-(

Painfully obvious how badly Riddle would dominate Dante after last night. Dante is the single most boring fighter ever on the show. Page had legitimate beef with that decision.

Almeida must be disappointed watching one of his students look so…disinterested? I never got the feeling that Rivera was trying to do much of anything in that fight, but part of that has got to be his coaching. Forrest is playing to win, but if I were Dana White, I’d want to kill him. He’s sending his guys out there to win by decision, not knockout or submission. I mean, he was saying that he just wanted the judges to see Rivera look busy, so he’s not trying to inflict damage, just look like you won the fight. It’s a good strategy for winning (his team is 3-0), but it’s VERY boring. For someone that runs his mouth as much as Rivera, he didn’t show me much. Not sure if everyone knew he was training with Almeida; I only found out because I live in Jersey not far from Almeida’s gym and one of the guys I see at the gym I workout in trains there too and knows Dante.

Almeida isn’t disappointed at all.

http://www.theultimatefighter.tv/forum/forum.php( Forrests admitted mistakes leading up to the fight)

Forrest Griffin is the number one contender to Quinton “Rampage” Jackson’s UFC light heavyweight championship and coaching opposite the champ in the new season of The Ultimate Fighter. After the season the two coaches will go at it one on one for the 205-lb unified world title, but first Griffin brings you an inside look at each episode of the new season of TUF.

Courtesy of the UFC and Spike TV, Forrest Griffin and InsideFighting will receive a copy of each week’s episode of “The Ultimate Fighter 7” before it airs. Forrest will then provide InsideFighting readers with his reaction to the episode in his coach’s blog which is immediately posted online after the show is done airing every Wednesday night.

I still thought watching Dante and Brandon’s fight again that Dante won. Obviously it was not in impressive fashion, it was pretty horrible actually, but he just had one of those days.

A lot of it was that Dante had a certain way he worked out before the show but he bought into my workout and I had him do a lot of things differently and he really over trained and was flat afterwards. I kind of ran him into the ground a little bit.

It was a normal workout for guys who don’t have a fight later in the week. It would have been a great workout if you had a ten day taper before a fight.

Some of the guys asked me, "Is this what you would do a week before a fight of yours?" and I said, "No way, what are you crazy? This is just what we are going to do here." The last time I did a workout like that was when I was on the show myself.

I’m not even sure the match up was my idea. The process for choosing match ups was not real formal.

In the beginning it was whoever stepped forward and said whoever they wanted to fight. With Dante the idea was to get Brandon on the ground and submit him. We knew Dante was a good Jitz guy and we knew that Brandon wasn’t.

Dante told me he was gassed. I smacked him in the face before the third round and just told him, "Gut check. Go out there and do something." I didn’t ask him to knock Brandon out, I would not have asked him for miracles, but I just wanted him to drop his hand on the other guy more than he did.

It was hard to tailor the workouts to the guys. Matt Brown and Jesse Taylor could do whatever you threw at them and ask for more. Nick Klein would work himself into the ground doing what you asked but it would be overtraining for him and he got worse over the course of the show. He did whatever I asked and never complained but he over trained instead of backing off.

It worked out well for some guys and not so well for others. But eventually the guys decided what they were going to do. I gave them workout options and they decided whether or not they were going to do that or go on the treadmill or whatever else they needed.

 
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One thing I should mention is that I took Dante for a hard run right before his fight because I forgot he had a fight coming up. We were doing these native American runs and by the third mile he told me, "Hey, I think I’m going to quit doing this," and I said, "Oh yeah, I didn’t want you to do this."

I had forgotten that he was fighting the next day. I didn’t intend for him to do anything.

Rivera didn’t impress me at all, and I think his cardio might be suspect. Not a bad prelim fight, but certainly not a great one. Rivera, barring anything unforeseen, won’t make it past quarterfinals.

If Sene wanted to win the damn fight he should have fought when they were on their feet, he did nothing standing except allow Dante to shoot on him at will. It’s about where and when you are active not just the fact that you are active. He consistently waited for Dante to push him against the fence or put him on his back before he would “inflict damage”, he allowed himself to be controlled.

It’s disappointing how the UFC chooses to select fighters for the show. You’ve got a bunch of guys who talk sh#& but are largely untrained, regardless of their ‘record.’ The UFC seems to be more concerned with creating an exciting dialogue at the house than an impressive, technical match in the ring. Surely there are better guys with enough personality out there to put on the show.

Wow, what a snoozer! Dante threw about 5 punches with anything on them. Brandon’s guard was looser than a whore’s cooch. I’d call it “Lay and Pray” but I think it was more like just Lay. I really thought Dante was a better fighter with his record but he had side control a couple of times and, except for a couple of knees, he did absolutely nothing. Terrible!