All of you should know my feelings about this fight by now… Rampage via 1st or 2nd round SLAUGHTER!~

how can you guys all be saying this after the showing forrest had against shogun? he’s clearly developed into one of the smarter fighters out there and he’ll have a good gameplan for this fight. sure rampage hits hard and has some decent cardio, but forrest is no bum and rampage is not the god everyone is making him out to be since ko’ing chuck…how soon we forget the pride days when rampage was embarrassed in most of his big fights…forrest will not be embarrassed in this fight, he deserves to be here and he’ll prove it, he might not win, but he will put up a fight…everyone was saying the same stuff before the forrest/shogun fight about how shogun was going to kill him, but look what happened, forrest fought smart and took the fight to the later rounds and pulled it off (smart gameplan)…and i don’t care what anyone says, shogun was throwing some heat in that first round and forrest persevered through that…he’s a warrior, give the man some credit

I would say that Shogun beat himself more than Forrest. He clearly underestimated Forrest and the Cage – there were glimpses of greatness from Shogun in the fight from his striking, defense and GnP

Its too bad he did not anticipate the amount of cardio you need in the cage and against someone with as much determination/heart as forrest

isn’t that kind of like making excuses for shogun though and taking all the credit away from forrest? shogun was supposed to be the best lhw in the world, i would think the best would be ready for circumstances like that…i have to disagree, i think forrest’s strategy beat shogun, shogun didn’t beat himself, he got beat by a smarter fighter

id say that was shogun of new if forest fought the shogun of old he’d have been murdered! shogun was flatfooted! shogun had so many injuries before that fight! including a blown acl which he has done again! he was in no shape to fight forest at all! and he wont be able to fight chuck i can gaurentee you that! he hasnt been trainging hard for over 2 and a half years no way is he prepared to fight chuck1 as for this will be the most one sided title fight ever! we’ve seen many one sided fights already !
like babalu gave chuck much of a scare!

spida – ya i guess im making excuses – i dont mean to take anything away from forrest, he fought a great fight and beat shogun that night.

if shogun wouldve upped his cardio a bit, id say he would beat forrest 8 out of 10 times. I see the situation similiar to GSP vs Serra, not that forrest got lucky – in that GSP that fought that night was not the best he could have been, same as Shogun

All you dillusional people that think Forrest defeating a 1 legged shogub was impressive, put your money where your mouth is and bet some money on Forrest (so that the odds drop a little for me).

Forrest has 1 win over a top opponent, shogun, fighting with no Acl…..I feel really sorry for those of you that think that he is now all of the sudden ready for Rampage… Get a clue… Forrests 1st fight in the UFC was Bil Mahood, while Rampage was fighting Sakuraba in his 1st fight.

say what you want about the Forrest vs. Rampage fight but if you think that the Forrest vs. shogun fight meant anything, you will all be sadly mistaken.

This might be the most 1 sided title fight ever! Worse than GSP vs. Serra 2 was

hah, forrest’s first fight in the ufc was against mahood(11-3 at the time) sure, but his first fight was against dan severn and 5th fight against jeff monson, then chael sonnen and jeremy horn a few fights later. and yes rampage fought sakarabu in his first pride fight (after 11 fights), but his first fight in the ufc was marvin eastman (a man he already beat)…get the comparisons right brother if you’re gonna throw them out there…forrest has fought very good comp and always has done well. rampage on the other hand…yes he dominated chuck twice and had a nice fight against henderson, but what about the shogun fight? the wanderlei fights?

rampage has improved i know, he’s on a tear and one of the best lhw right now, but you’re the one that is “sadly mistaken and dillusional” if you think forrest doesn’t have a chance…i’m AGAIN not saying forrest is going to win even though he might, i’m just saying he deserves to be there and will not just get the 30 second treatment you think he will…

and all the shogun excuses are old, forrest was hurt too, give the man some credit…shogun showed up and lost, period

marvin beat Rampage the first time.

thank you, i meant to say a man he already fought

Spida, I hope u arent seriously comparing Forrests opponents to Rampages.

Off the top of my head, Rampage has beaten:
Bustamante (former UFC champion)
Arona (top 10 for a long time)
Dong Sik Yoon
Lindland
Igor Volchanychn (top 10 heavyweight at the time)
Dan Henderson…(u know what Hendo would do to Forrest? (In my Karo voice)
Chuck twice!
Ninja (when he was a bad mofo)
Randleman

dude you are throwing out names like Dan Severn?

I never said he will get the 30 second treatment…But I did say, Forrest cant last 2 rounds with out getting his head Knocked off by Rampage, and if you feel so strongly about Forrest, throw some change on him….I got my $500 for Rampage put away already!~

I cant believe you really just tried to compare Forrest’s Resume with Rampage’s LMFAO

So you think Forrest has earned a title fight(in the best division in the world) by:

loosing to Tito (even though many thought he won)
Beating bonner twice
Getting KTFO by Jardine
and beating a crippled Shogun

In your book who’s next in line? Houston Alexander? lol

I would rather see Tiago Silva, fight Rampage!

Whats Forrest going to do, with no defense, no power, inferior wrestling, and not good enough ju jits to submit page? How in the world can he win?

Only way Forrest beats Rampage is if Rampage shows up to fight with an ACL missing! There is no other way.

Do u not know what a great chin Slampage has? What has forrest done to deserve a title shot over:
Jardine
Machida
I would give wanderlei a shot before Forrest

I am going to keep it real, Forrest is only getting a title shot because he is popular to the average fan. dana has been all over Forrest C0ck, promoting the fight saying he beat the best 205 lb fighter in the world (Shogun).

Wait till the Countdown Show to Shogun’s next fight, all you will hear from Joe and Dana is how injured shogun was and what a warrior he was for taking the fight.

I love the UFC, doesnt mean I have to accept everything Dana does….and on this move, I call B.S

Title fights should involve the Champ vs. #1 contender…nO ONE IN THERE RIGHT MIND CAN SIT HERE AND TELL ME THAT fORREST IS THE #1 CONTENDER AT 205.

kEEP DRINKING THAT COMPANY COOL AID! ;LOL

haha, this is fun…i said dan servern because that is a tough test for any fighter in his first fight, and it was in 2001, severn had gas left in the tank then…forrest has fought tito, monson, horn, RUA!,sonnen, bonnar, jardine, etc…none of them are scrubs, they’re for the most part stars who have all had success against top comp…rampage has fought tough dudes too, but with less success…and since you ask, i think forrest would have too much size for dan henderson, i honestly think forrest would win that fight, i think hendo is a little overrated because he ko’d wanderlei…rampage beat arona, nice, dong sik yoon? cmon bro, whats he ever been good for? rampage didn’t really beat lindland either, and lindland is a middleweight! bustamante is decent, but again middleweight and nothing special, and everybody beat randelman…the fact is rampage is a little bit overrated because he has chuck’s number and hits like a truck…he’s a one trick pony to quote himself and forrest is not…i like forrest and his resume better, period…its just an opinion thouhg

and forrest is getting the title shot because he beat the guy that was the number 1 contender at the time, rua…white said rua was getting a title shot after the fight…sure, his popularity doesn’t hurt, but dude, thats why everybody’s on rampage’s bag as well…this is crazy because i like page, and you’re forcing me into bashing him because you’re hating so hard on forrest…i’m just saying the dude deserves some credit…and he deserves a shot over machida because machida hasn’t beat anybody but soko who has two good fights, and machida’s been boring for the most part his entire career…he’s got skills and is probably next in line if he beats tito…i know there are other guys out there that may deserve the shot like him or jardine or even thiago silva, but that doesn’t take anything away from forrest.

i feel like i’m talking to morethanufc, are you sure you’re not him, haha

this isn’t even a rampage vs. forrest argument, its deeper than that…its a pride fan that thinks he has to stick up for his guys over the ufc or even the TUF fans…i like all fighters with talent man, and forrest has tons…the fact is that pride guys haven’t done so well in the octagon, thats a fact…i think the ufc is winning the war that once was ufc vs. pride and maybe you’re a little bitter…and please don’t come back with the what aobut anderson silva, because he is NOT a pride guy!

Well well well, as an impartial observer i thoroughly enjoyed your debate (spida & John) and you both make your point well.

I can’t help but side with John tho. In the big fights against the big names Rampage has got the better track record (even in loosing sometimes he’s performed well) added to that he is improving every day.

Forrest is gutsy as fu*k and pulled off the fight of a career against Shogun but lightning will not strike twice.

I’m with John 70% Spida 30% (i think thats just one side of the fence!) I don’t think it will be as cut and dry as John thinks but Rampage will still walk away with the W.

hahahahahahahahaha

thats the old forrest, the one that jardine ko’d…his two fights since then he has been a completely different and way better fighter

That’s Shogun’s fault then, not Chuck’s. There’s a difference between having a big heart and being stupid. Nothing wrong with pulling out if youre hurt.

first of all, chuck is not my “precious poster boy” idon’t know where you get that? theres not a ufc vs. pride feud anymore friend, second, shogun pulled out of the fight with chuck, so why are you talking about liddell at all? third, chuck wanted to fight but the ufc wouldn’t let him, when else has he pulled out of a fight? fouth, i do think forrest’s shoulder injury was just as if not more bothersome since he throws punches with his arms and chokes people out with those arms too, seems like just as much if not more of a disadvantage in training for forrest, and way more of a disadvantage in the actual fight, and how are you gonna finish “the best in the world” with a choke that takes two arms, with one arm? also, shogun could have trained cardio a bunch of different ways, i’m no cardio expert, but cardio isn’t all about running, he could swim, lift small weights with a lot of reps, train at high atltitude or in heat, situps, pushups, sex, grappling, sparring, etc.

a lot of fighters fight with knee injuries, chuck fought tito with a knee injury, tito fought rah with a knee injury, antonio silva against ricco, and plenty more cases, and those guys were successful…the point is that fighters fight with injuries and its ironic how some of them are warriors for fighting with them and others are chumps for making excuses…i’m not sure why you can’t give forrest any credit, maybe you just feel like you have to defend the pride fighters, thats all good, those guys are world class, some of them, but forrest is not a chump dude…he too is a warrior that fights with injuries, read the article on him in the new fight mag…

JOHN – How can you critisize Chuck for pulling out of his fight right now? When Rua just pulled out first?