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Ultimate Fighter 7: Episode 4 recap and discussion


Episode four of The Ultimate Fighter 7 is in the books and since this week's episode is titled "Everything to lose" I wonder about the second half of that quote as it pertains to the contestants (and possibly the viewers).

After our standard recap of last week we roll right into Jesse Taylor and his afterparty of one. Not that anyone has labeled him all brawn and no brains but I think I saw him trying to open a Heineken with a butter knife.

Matthew Riddle and Dante Rivera continue their on-camera courtship with some friendly barbs but you know what they say about the thin line between love and hate.

Team Rampage is back in the gym trying to find a way to rebound from their first loss - and Rampage gets a laugh from me when one of his boys rolls a grappling dummy into an armbar and Rampage exclaims "See that! He just gave it to you!"

Rampage also doesn't appreciate the fact that the heat's turned off while he trains and that his team doesn't have gloves that fit. Maybe there is something to that name Team Brown-nose after all.

The guys on Team Blue expect Forrest to pit his top guy against their worst. Patrick Schultz humbly acknowledges his place on the team and prepares himself to get called out.

Star-divide

Back at the house everyone is still reeling from last week's herpes outbreak and when Jesse Taylor gets a few red bumps on his chest he goes from team hero to Typhoid Mary in less than 24 hours. He gets sprayed with some tough-actin' Tinactin and lives to fight another day.

Riddle starts up with his shtick again - only this time Rivera's not there to hear it. As Riddle drones on the viewing audience simultaneously becomes envious of Dante Rivera.

Dana is conspicuously absent from the fight announcement and Forrest wastes no time announcing Tim Credeur from Team Brown taking on Matthew Riddle from Team Blue.

Credeur makes a good point while explaining his decision to fight Riddle: He wants opponents who can make him a better fighter and a leftover like Patrick Schultz is not capable of doing that.

Ouch.

At the house we get more of Riddle and Rivera. This time Rivera is needling Riddle over whether or not he has the stones to bet $500 on his own fight. Meanwhile my wife offered me $500 to change the channel.

Team Brown hits the gym and Credeur gives a pretty convincing argument for why he's there. Over at Team Blue's training session Coach Ibarra tells Riddle he must get into Credeur's butt. While initially appalled, I do concur that sodomy is enough to make any man tap.

Riddle shows up at the weigh-ins wearing a Speedo with a promise to show America what he's got. I wonder aloud what it was about Gabe Reudiger that Matthew Riddle found so appealing - since he seems to be emulating his entire routine.

Both guys make weight but back at the house Riddle admits that he has at least 10-15 years left in MMA. That's assuming he can first get his driver's license and move out of his Mom's house.

Team Brown's Tim Credeur (10-2) vs. Team Blue's Matthew Riddle (1-0)

Round 1: Riddle opens with a lazy shoot but hangs on and wrestles him down. Riddle not doing much and Credeur explodes out of it and gets back to his feet. Jab and low kick by Credeur find their mark. Half-assed crane kick and another lazy shoot backs Credeur up who locks up and gets dumped to the mat. Riddle pushes him to the cage but Credeur escapes. Kick/slip by Creduer followed by some punches and they tie-up but this time it's Credeur who gets the takedown. Credeur gives him a half-slam into the cage and Riddle rolls out and briefly gets control. Credeur grabs a leg but eats a shot and ends up in guard. From there he reverses and lands some shots from the top. Riddle starting to take punishment and gives up his back. Credeur pours it on as the bell sounds. Close round.

Round 2: High kick and shoot by Riddle gets Credeur to the mat. Creduer quickly looks to triangle but instead finds his feet and reverses. Riddle against the cage eating elbows. Credeur postures and lands a big shot. Credeur postures again but Riddle escapes and comes out swinging like a Wildman with punches and kicks. Credeur retreats and gets taken down. Credeur looks gassed. Riddle lands a nice elbow. Both sides are screaming. Credeur almost has a triangle but loses it. Riddle rolls and winds up on bottom. Riddle looks spent. Credeur rolls into a slow-motion armbar but Riddle is too winded to defend and is forced to tap.

Tim Credeur defeats Matthew Riddle via submission (armbar)

Team Blue is now down 0-2 and Rampage looks extremely disappointed. A very mediocre episode was saved by a very entertaining fight. While not the most technical affair, it was still very close and the action was constant and back-and-forth.

Stay tuned next week as Rampage loses his cool, Bisping makes a cameo (and gets kicked in the yam-bag), and Jeremy May and Matt Brown have a war of words.

See you then!

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Harsh words for an episode I thought wasn’t mediocre at all. This season is the best by far. The fights have been amazing and back and forth. Great stuff.

by Clint on Apr 23, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that up kick to the face could have been bad…

by Jizzo on Apr 23, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aren’t up kicks legal?

by Gregg on Apr 23, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tim was on his knees. If he was standing that would have been fine.

by alexguy on Apr 23, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was illegal, because Tim was on his knees. If top fighter is standing up, it is legal for the down fighter to up kick.

by Brandon on Apr 24, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so where was all this controversy they were talking about?

by Spider Style on Apr 23, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was waiting for Forrest to yell about the illegal move.

by Toms Bombs on Apr 23, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was some of the worst martial art skills I have seen in a while… riddle dropped his hands to throw punches and stuck his chin out there. He is way to green to be on that show.

by NewGuyTheGunMan on Apr 23, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If riddle listened to rampage and stood up, he may have won that fight. oh well, i wanted to see the teams be competitive. i hope we don’t have another serra hughes type thing with one side completely dominant.

by Fidel Cashflow on Apr 23, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s one thing I can’t stand is fighters totally doing the opposite of what the corner tells them, it was obvious to everyone but Riddle they should stand up… whata dumbass

by THORAZINE on Apr 24, 2008 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, Rampage told him to stand up and he wouldn’t listen. It cost him the fight. That was an ugly ass armbar, they were both pretty sloppy on the ground.

by jimmy_dean on Apr 24, 2008 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think having winners decide the next fight is a bad idea. It’s hard to lose control when you can decide who fights.

by RHV on Apr 24, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He didn’t choose the worst fighter though.

by c-war on Apr 24, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Green or not Ithink Riddle got the better of Credeur. The sad part is that Tim was Forrests number one pick and he barley got by the second greenest guy in the house. Had Riddle just listened to Rampage and stood Tim up he would have won that fight.

Why do these fighters have such a hard time listening to their respective corners. Not in just the episode butall the Tuf series. I played sports my whole life, competed in martial arts tornaments, and wrestled as youngin and always listened to my coach and always saw success. Coaches have a perspective that the athlete(s) can not see. It would seem to me that the best thing to do would be to listen. I know it is a fight but you are supposed to be thinking re: of how green you are you still have ears that work…

by Da Monkey on Apr 24, 2008 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its a little bit harder when you are getting smashed in the face pal. or when you are at risk of getting your arm torn off at the elbow. either way, i think more experienced fighters are calm enough to follow instructions. but riddle was just too green and too wound up.

even in other martial arts, you get to break and reset. in MMA however, there is no guarantee that the man across from you wont bomb you from the opening bell until the ref calls it. a think a more intelligent and experienced fighter would have listened, but early on in your fighting career you dont hear shit when you’re in the thick of it.

by Hardcase on Apr 24, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all, Riddle has nothing in common with Reudiger. Where the hell is that even coming from?

I thought this was a good episode and was rooting for Riddle to take out Tim. Neat-o mosquito? What the hell?

by Ben! on Apr 24, 2008 1:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don’t get why some fighters don’t listen to their corner. i mean, i get it when the arena is too loud to hear them. but at the ufc training facility? comon man, u got a corner man for a reason, listen and u’ll be rewarded…unless it’s ray longo lol “i think he’s gonna stand up this round. i think.”

i just get pissed when the fighters don’t listen. just like andy wang. man that guy deserved to lose. stubborn man.

by keith on Apr 24, 2008 5:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can see why rampage was “disappointed” (i bet he wanted to curse like a biotch, but since he’s a born-again christian, he has to control that stuff haha). i was yelling at the tv hahaha shiet.

by keith on Apr 24, 2008 5:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that was funny. Credeur takes himself way way too seriously I wanted Riddle to win in the worst way. He was always smiling and even after the fight he accepted it and was cheerful and positive. The other dude was more serious than my ex’s crabs…trust me, that’s really serious.

I also agree with mania, sodomy would make most fighters tap. I don’t think it would make Tito tap though, it might slow him down a little.

by dave on Apr 24, 2008 6:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree on the mediocre comment. I think this season is moving along just fine. The house drama will pick up as soon as more guys start losing and then Jesse will have plenty of people to party with. Also he should put bottle opener on his necessity list.

I was very unimpressed with Tim. He was highly touted by Forrest in the opening episode and then he picked him first. I think he is too small for the weight class, and if Riddle would have listened to Rampage and stayed on his feet, he would have lost to a fighter with one fight on his record. So much for 15 fight experience. He will not win this show.

I am not seeing much of Gerald Harris on these episodes. He must be camera shy or something because even when his whole team is sitting together talking he’s not there. Him and C.B. are two of my picks to go all of the way.

Team Brown nose is going down!!!

by Getrawbc on Apr 24, 2008 7:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

‘my wife offered me $500 to change the channel.’

Rarf ownt.

 On a side note, I really like Rampage the person. He’s a great guy.

by Sirchokemout on Apr 24, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is “Rarf ownt” supposed to mean?

by Jason on Apr 24, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, What does it stand for?

by Rumbler on Apr 24, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn’t really matter who wins these first rounds of fights. The best two will wind up in the finals. Just like last season, although Hughes only had two fighters win their initial fights, they were the two that wound up in the finals. As a coach, I’d rather have that than have six of my guys move on, and yet not one of them make the finals. IMO, it shows that Serra was the better coach, and Hughes had the better eye for talent. We’ll see what happens this season.

by UFCAddict on Apr 24, 2008 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

apparently im not up to date with today’s hip lingo..
is “green” just beginner, lack of skills or what?? never heard it before today

by ufcmn89 on Apr 24, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, “green” means new to the sport, beginner, newby, etc.

by Jason on Apr 24, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have the first picks of each team ever met in the Finals of TUF? I don’t remember the first picks from the first season, but I doubt Florian or Forrest were Number 1 picks. Season 2, Joe Stevenson was Hughes’s first pick, but Luke Cummo was like the last to be picked. Neither Rashad nor Imes were first picks. I know that Bisping wasn’t a first pick in TUF 3, neither was Josh Haynes. I beleive Jesse Forbes was Shamrocks #1 and Hamil was Tito’s. Who was the first picks for season 5??? Was either Lauzon or Maynard for BJ and I think Cole Miller might have been Jens’s first pick? Last year if Joey "Sand in my Vagina" Scarola made it to the finals, he would have faced Mac who was Hughes’s first pick.

Tim Credeur and CB Dalloway (this years first picks) truely appear to be ready for the UFC right now.

I watched all of CB Dalloway’s previous fights on his website. This kid is for real. He won via a 18 second slam TKO in his first fight! and he’s fought on HDnet fights as well. Tim Credeur is a serious thread to make the finals as well. However, I was very suprised that Chipper lasted on the ground with Credeur for as long as he did.

CB is undefeated at 6-0 and Tim’s 2 losses came to Joey Villasenior and Chael Sonnen. Its worth mentioning that the Villasenior was only Tim’s 2nd pro fight.

by ViolentMike on Apr 24, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you can believe this, Bobby Southworth was Chuck Liddell’s first pick.

by Getrawbc on Apr 24, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Credeur will make a good heavy bag with arms for any up and coming MWs. He’s CRAP and would get milked in UFC. Fortunately he’s gonna get outed way before the final of TUF. He JUST got a win against a 22yr old guy who admits he needs loads more to his game.

by MrAngry on Apr 26, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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