Randy Couture: Fight with Minotauro Nogueira 'just doesn't make sense'

That’s just sad. Nog has a better history and legacy at Heavyweight than Randy. This comment shows that Randy only cares about Randy. That sucks because he was such a hero of mine for a long time. Randy has two fights left on his UFC contract, a contract he was paid for, a contract that he signed. He is dishonoring his contract, insulting Nog, and being purely selfish in his goal to take on Fedor…

by Zeke on Apr 13, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions

That is exactly right and I don’t think that Yoko is helping the situation any. Also, I am very surprised that Randy is doing MMA math. He of all people should know that it never works. Nog is a great champion and Randy is spitting in his face. I have never wanted Tim Silvia to win a fight, but I sure hope he smashes Fedor and screws everything up for Randy.

by bnf on Apr 13, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Randy is not using MMA math. The way that works is if fighter A beats fighter B, then fighter A will beat fighter C, because B beat C. That’s speculation. Now, that Fedor has beaten Nog twice is not speculation. That is a fact. He is saying that he may only fight once more in his career, and he wants it to be against Fedor, who many consider to be #1, based on his record, which includes the FACT that he beat Nog twice. Is he being protective of his position in the sport by not fighting Nog? Well duh. But if he wants the Fedor fight, why risk getting caught by Nog? I don’t see how that is disrespecting Nog. He doesn’t bring up the losses to disrespect him, but instead because they are relevent to his point. Besides if Slvia beats Fedor, the whole thing gets screwed anyways.

by MongoMan on Apr 13, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I totally agree MongoMan If he only wants to fight once more in his career then why should he settle for Fedor’s left overs when he wants Fedor. I don’t think Randy would own Fedor but I think that Randy has a prety good chance if he avoids the submission. I will say this, there is no way and hell Fedor knocks Randy out or wins by stoppage. The only way he beats Randy is by way of submission. Randy has better hips, I would say his stand up just as good as Fedor’s but Fedor is a wizard on his back and becuase of that I wouldn’t count him out.

by jimmy_dean on Apr 14, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m sorry, but that was quite possibly the worst example of MMA math.

Fighter A has beaten Fighter B
Fighter B has beaten Fighter C

MMA math would conclude that because of this, Fighter A would beat Fighter C if they were to fight.

HOWEVER, mma math does not work…

by ViolentMike on Apr 14, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions

I Never said MMA math works. I said Randy wasn’t using it. He never said that a victory against Nog is a forgone conclusion if he can beat Fedor. He said Fedor is #1, and that given the fact that Fedor has beaten Nog twice, then he has no desire to fight him at this time.

And if my example of MMA math is so bad. Why did you just use the exact same explanation?

by MongoMan on Apr 14, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions

The fact that Randy mentioned Nog was beaten twice by Fedor therefore he is not interested in that fight is the definition of MMA math. If he would have said only that Fedor is #1 and that’s why he wants the fight then I could see your point. Randy is absolutly disrespecting Nog by not fighting him. How can anyone defend a man who backs out of a contract he signed? Not to mentiond the fact he was caught lying about his pay.

by bnf on Apr 14, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Here is the man’s comment:
“… I’m 44 and looking at the end of my career. I want to fight the best guy in the world and be considered the best guy as well. That fight is the only way that will happen. It doesn’t make sense — the UFC is criticizing me for not fighting (Antonio Rodrigo) Nogueira, and I have a lot of respect for Nogueira. I think he’s a great fighter, but he’s been beat by Fedor twice. That fight doesn’t make sense for me right now. If I have more fights left in me after Fedor, maybe I’ll fight Nogueira then, but right now, it just doesn’t make sense.”

Read it closely, he is saying he may only fight once more. And he wants that fight with the #1 guy. He compliments Nog several times in this statement. If the fact that he won’t compromise in his pursuit of this fight offends you, then that’s how you feel. But there is no need to put words in his mouth. He never said he would beat Nog if he beat Fedor, therefore no MMA math. That’s just simply how rankings work. Beat the #1 guy to be #1. Not beat #2 to be #1. There is no doubt that he is being protective of his position in the sport. He knows Nog is dangerous. A loss would screw that up. And yet he leaves the door open for a Nog fight after the Fedor fight. But he simply wants to test himself against Fedor. Why is that so wrong? Does ambition offend you?

This is the first I have heard anyone accuse him of lying about pay? Where did you hear this?

As far as the contract goes it was for 4 fights over 18 months. He was to be paid on a fight by fight basis. Meaning he didn’t get paid for something he didn’t do. What is in dispute is if he has the right to sit out the 18 months if he no longer wishes to fight for the UFC. It’s a sports contract, not a deal with the Devil. He should have options if he changes his mind. People do change their minds. It may be shocking to you, but it does happen. The UFC reserves the right to end contracts before they are up. Where is your outrage when that happens? Hell, the clause that allows the UFC to end the contract as they see fit is one of the reasons Fedor didn’t sign. Go figure.

The fact of the matter is that if you are caught up in buying all the trash talk and he said, she said b.s. then there is nothing I can say that will convince you to give the man a fair shake. But that is your prerogative.

End rant.

by MongoMan on Apr 15, 2008 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions

a contract that is faulty at best. Randy HAS NOT been paid for the two more fights on his UFC contract to be clear. he will be paid if he takes those fights. supposedly his UFC contract has a time limit that expires in Oct 08 then he’s free from it regardless if he does the two out of four fights left on it (contested by UFC and still being deliberated in court). people shouldn’t blame Randy for wanting what’s best for him. he’s been treated disproportionately as compared to many other MMA stars and just wants to end his career the way he wants to end it, fighting the best heavyweight MMA fighter in the world: Fedor (according to most polls). Nog is great but if he takes that fight he’s just conceding again and in a way saying that all of Dana’s mistakes in handling the Randy vs Fedor negotiations were OKAY (not allowing Fedor a more flexible non-exclusive contract, offering Fedor ridiculous amounts of money up to 10M while Randy would end up getting the usual 500K-1M, Dana denies this but he only claimed that he would never pay Fedor more than Randy after negos fell through). if there’s any dishonoring that’s been done it’s the UFC not taking care of it’s biggest star Randy Couture. Now we have both parties fighting in court instead, things are getting ugly, both parties reputations have taken blows. it’s very disappointing.

by banana on Apr 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

He is afraid he will lose.. That is all there is to it. Everyone forgets how Chuck Liddell Made him his bitch..

by RickyB on Apr 13, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

well put my friend

by c-war on Apr 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions

The Noguiera fight doesn’t make sense to randy because he would lose that fight. Me fighting rampage – that fight doesn’t make sense because I’m fairly certain I would be killed.

by Brandon on Apr 13, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Randy SHOULD be looking out for himself. What person SHOULDN’T? The UFC sure isn’t looking out for him, they’re looking after themselves too, which is SMART. Nobody should depend on OTHER PEOPLE to take care of them, I don’t care if it’s MMA or life in general. People should always be doing what’s in their own best interest, at the end of the day that’s all that really matters anyway. The rest just makes you FEEL GOOD.

I understand Randy did sign a UFC contract BUT let’s face the truth: If you’re in Randy’s shoes, you’ve been fighting your whole life. You might be on YOUR LAST FIGHT. Fedor’s reputation as the P4P best fighter in the world has been known for years in the MMA world. You have an opportunity to fight this guy to etch your name in stone as maybe the best MMA practitioner of all-time. This decision is a NO-BRAINER. You fight Fedor as fast as humanly possible and fuck everything else, no regrets, no looking back.

And this is NOT disrespectful to Nogueira at all. Nogueira would do the same thing if he were in Randy’s position. In fact this whole decision has nothing to do with Nogueira whatsoever. When you’re already 45 years old, you don’t have any time to waste and the Fedor fight is easily the more attractive of the 2 fights, period. So do whatever the hell you gotta do to seal your legacy as an MMA champion…that’s what Randy is trying to do right before his body quits on him.

by Cory81 on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Randy is scared of Nog’s submission abilities. I would be too if I was Randy. Unfortunately for Randy if he ever does face Fedor…he is going to face another fighter with great submission skills and probably have an easier time taking Randy to the ground. Can see a Mir/Nog showdown taking place soon.

by TBlades07 on Apr 13, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions

So because Randy wants to fight Sherdog ranked #1 (Fedor) and not #2 (Nog), he’s scared of #2?

That makes no sense.

If he were ducking #1 to get to #2, ok, that would make more sense…

by RHV on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

No, Randy is Ducking #2, because if he looses to #2, a fight against #1(Fedor) will be pointless.

Randy is a coward for not taking the fight with Nogueira. I am sure the UFC would pay him a boat load to fight Nog, but it doesnt make sense for poor Randy! F off Couture, you used to be all about the fans now you are the Terrell Owens of mma…congradulations scumbag!

There is no doubt in my mind that Randy would loose to Big Nog. Although Randy’s stand up is improved, I still think Nogueira’s is better and on the ground Nogueira would make quick work of Couture. Also, Noguiera has 10 times stronger Chin then Couture does.

Randy wont fight Nog, because he would loose, and then it will mess up his big Pay day against Fedor, who will embarress Randy anyway!

I lost all respect for Couture. Nogueira is a legend at Heavyweight, I cant say the same thing about Couture.

Noguiera holds wins at Heavyweight over:
Tim Sylvia (finished the fight where Randy couldnt)
Cro Cop (Back when cro cop was a MONSTER)
Barnett (who finished Couture)
Werdum
Sergei Kharitonov
Ricco Rodriguez

Randy’s accomplishments at Heavyweight dont even Compare to Couture’s, but Randy says it makes no sense to fight Noguiera, No crap it doesnt make sense for Randy to fight Noguiera because if he did he would just get his arm ripped OFF!

by john on Apr 13, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Just becuase you don’t like someone you are going to automaticlally count them out of a fight. This isn’t Cro Cop you are talking about this is Randy and if I remember right Nog was being destroyed by Sylvia and he got the submission. Randy could have submitted Tim if he wanted to but he wanted to beat his ass and win by ko or tko. Right now Randy could beat anybody on the list of fighters that Nog has beaten. He is a different figher and I don’t think he would make the same mistakes he made in the past. I would never say that Randy would beat Fedor and I don’t like Fedor but just becuase I don’t like him I’m not gonna say oh Randy would beat his ass. That’s pretty shallow if you stop and think about it. I’m a Cowboys fan but I am not gonna sit here and say Yeah the Cowboys will destroy the Patriots just becuase I don’t like the Pats.
Tim Sylvia(Randy owned him and chose not to submit him)
Cro Cop HA HA HA HA!
Barnnett(Who finished Couture and had his title stripped for steroids)
Werdum(Easy win for Randy)
Sergei Kharitonov(Who?)
Ricco Rodriguez(Beat Randy a long time ago and I believe he’s on the celeberity rehab show addicted to cocaine and gambling.)

by jimmy_dean on Apr 13, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Well put. I completely agree with everything you just said there. Especially that Nog would destroy Couture.

by Toms Bombs on Apr 14, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Thank You that is exactly what I was thinking. Who has he beat in HW? Tim and Gonzaga…He as lost to his the other credible HW. Barnett and Rodriguez. He is not a HW monster he is an opportunist at best. He came in to fight a 75% Tim Sylvia, knowing very well that he could take avantage of Tim;s akwardness. Is he great because he beat Tim? I do not think so…Is he great because he beat Gonzaga? Mos def not. Gonzaga may prove to be a beast in the future but he has a lot to learn. I am impressed he finished him with a broken arm but his level of HW contentiondoes not compare to Big Nog. Couture turned into an EGO-Mainiac! What a shame that such a fan favorite became such a prick in his age assuming that he is the TOP HW in the World because he beat Sylvia and Gonzaga. Why does’t he get some redemption then and fight Barnett first. Or give the respect that he says he has for Nog and fight him. Because he knows Nog would either be ripping his arm off or putting him to sleep. I have never been such a fan of Tim SYlvia as I am now in hopes that he gets Fedor, wins, and not only rains on Couture’s ego but shits on it…To go from class act to class ass all in one year is amazing. Captain America can lick ButterBeans smelly ass, chode after a 2 hour workout….

by Da Monkey on Apr 14, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Jimmy Dean: I am not counting Randy out of a fight because I dont like him….I am counting him out because Nogueira is a terrible match up for Couture.

The only aspect of mma that Couture is better than Nogueira in is the clinch….and if he were to clinch with Nogueira he could risk being tripped and if the fight goes to the ground its OVER! Especially if Nog lands on top.

We all know that Couture is the better wrestler, but so what? Wrestling with Nogueira is a very dangerous thing to do because that just feeds into his ju jitsu.

Also Noguiera was not getting Owned by Sylvia for 15 minutes. If you knew anything about Nogueira you would know thats how all his fights are. He gets beat up and then he finishes you!

FYI: Fabricio werdum is a much tougher m atch up for Randy than you think!

“He was dominating Tim Sylvia, but He chose not to submit him”? Congradulations that his 1 of the top 5 dumbest comments I have ever seen on this site! No fighter chooses to not submit a fighter! Com,e on that was just retarded.

Why am I even responding to someone who thinks Sergei is a nobody?

I look at every fight objectively. The way I feel about a fighter, never clouds my judgemt so to say that I feel a certaiun way because I dont like a fighter as a person is stupid and inaccurate!

Say what you want about me, but I always keep it real.

So in your oppinion, how could Randy defeat Nogueira? I dont see any way that could happen!

by john on Apr 14, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Fedor just as much a little b%$#* as Couture is. Him not signing with M1 after he signed a form of intention, and suing a commercial for not displaying his “tough image”. What a fag, they are both pissin me off, I hope Fedor loses to Tim, that will end all this hype right quick.

by The Anomaly on Apr 14, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Mentioning taking Randy to the ground and easy or easier in the same sentence is a oxymoron.

by Gord on Apr 13, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Personally i think Randy would get picked apart by Nog’s boxing. Randy doesn’t throw many kicks and in a straight boxing match I think Nog would take it to him. Nog is an underrated boxer. Also i agree with you, if the fight went to the ground Nog would probably sub him.

by Brandon on Apr 13, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions

ok Nog’s boxing as under rated as it is still got picked apart in the standup against Tim which didnt happen to Randy, but if it went to the ground Nog’s submissions are world class, but they both have strong points in there games. the one thing randy always comes with is a great game plan

by James on Apr 14, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions

I am surprised that you are talking about Nogs boxing skills against Randy considering he was completly dominated by Sylvia in the stand up and Randy completely dominated Sylvia in the stand up.

by Ade on Apr 14, 2008 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Although this may be true we need to consider how was sylvias condition during the Couture fight. I think its safe to say he was not 100%. Just because Sylvia out struck Nog and Couture out struck Sylvia does not mean Couture will outstrike Nog.
I don’t think Nog will be constantly worried about randy shooting on him as Sylvia was terrified of being taken down.

by Brandon on Apr 14, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions

People critize the natural for having his mind set on fighting Fedor. One day he will be admired for going against the machine and doing what he feels is right. There should be a sanctioned way of these companies allowing there top fighters to compete on a world scale to determine who is truly the best at that weight division. Not just who is best for that fighting orginization. But only for the elite or the top of the top to go outside of their own company and be ranked on a universal level. Unfortunately companies prides are at skate to possibly show their guy isn’t the best and then we have the conflict of financial interest in who promotes, endorses and gets paid for the shows etc.etc.etc. I totally feel Randy in wanting to go for #1 which evidentally is Fedor especially with the sands of time drifting away from him which is obviously true. He is still formidable but knowingly is not at his peak. I think the fite will happen but I can only hope randy is in top form and mindstate with all the legal drama he is going thru…also he only seems to perform at his best inside the octagon!!!! Good luck Randy..You deserve the fite and worldwide recognition.

by bahiano on Apr 13, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions

i hope silvia knocks fedor out which will screw randy’s superfight up. feel sorry for Nog, he wins the title but nobody to fight. the only decent heavyweight on a bit of a run and under contract is mir but it wasn’t all that long ago that vera and cruz were whopping his ass.

by mashurst on Apr 13, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions

how does it not make sense. this guy is unbelievable. you are not the #1 contender randy, stop believing the hype.

by keystone on Apr 13, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions

I like(d) Randy, but disagree with what he’s doing completely. He should just f***in get his two fights over with, and then leave.

by UFCmn89 on Apr 13, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions

randy won his last two fights at HW and now he is too good for big NOG? the truth is he is scared of antonio, he said himself in a interview with sherdog that he would like to fight twice before retiring, so that means he could fight fedor and nog but he knows it a bad match up for him so he is running away.

by kazai on Apr 13, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions

feck him.

by mexican dude on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions

I mean, that makes perfect sense…

by Luppers on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions

The UFC gave him a shoot at Big Tim (which also suited the UFC) and all of a sudden after he wins he is to good to fight anyone else in the UFC.
He thinks he’s too good to fight Nog? I dont think so.

What if Fedor says I don’t want to fight Randy cos he’s got 2 loses against Chuck, so I want to fight Chuck.

Randy just admit that its all about the dollar!!

by MoonUK on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions

I hate this…. fighters should fight whoever is put in front of them. They should not have a choice.

If we are not carefull MMA will turn into boxing, where the boxers choose who they want to fight.

If you sign for an organisation you are there b*tch.

by MoonUK on Apr 13, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions

Nog has beaten wayyyy more top fighters than Fedor. I think he’s beaten every fighter that Randy lost to besides Chuck.

by Dom on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions

This is getting unreal. I hope Randy gets his ass handed to him – not just loss, but loss BIG! I agree doing MMA math from a top level guy – just shows it’s all about the money. UFC vs Randy = broke Randy / Fedor vs Randy = broken Randy

by JTK5 on Apr 13, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions

Randy is a fraud overratted comes in and wins beats tim silva and overrated gabriel gonzaga and now he he thinks his better then the whole heavyweight devition in the world wake up randy can wait for you to get ko

by joe on Apr 13, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions

how can this fight not make sense? nog, correct me if i’m wrong, has never been finished in a fight. couture has looked great since coming out of retirement at his age. this would be a megafight that i would gladly pay to see. Randy, do us all a favor. Pull your head out of the selfish sandbox you got and fight big nog, PLEASE!

by Clint on Apr 13, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions

RANDY COUTURE IS TAKING A GREAT CAREER IN MMA/UFC AND THROWING IT AWAY. DOES HE NOT THINK THAT EVERY MMA FAN IN THE WORLD WANTS TO SEE THIS FIGHT AS WELL? BUT AT WHAT POINT DO YOU DRAW THE LINE AND SAY IF THE FIGHT HAPPENS IT HAPPENS AND MOVE ON SEE ALL OF HIS FANS CAN SEE HIM PERFORM? I LOVE RANDY BUT THIS IS REDICULOUS. TAKE THE NOG FIGHT AND LET US SEE WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ALL THESE YEARS, PUTTING ON EXCITING FIGHTS, NOT PULLING THIS TITO ORTIZ SHIT.

by SCOTT on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

Fighters always have a choice on who they fight. They choose whether or not to take on the fight by signing on the dotted line.

The best out there right now, by most independent estimates, is Fedor. He’s not choosing to fight Paul Buentello.

Funny how now everybody thinks Randy is overrated and all of his recent wins were over overrated fighters. Lame…

by RHV on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

His recent wins ARE overrated fighters. Timmy ‘webfoot’ Sylvia (who had back problems when they fought); and Gabriel ‘one kick wonder’ Gonzaga.

by Brandon on Apr 13, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

getting real tired of writing stuff, and it dosen’t get posted. What’s going on here??????

by JTK5 on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

Me too. Quite frustrating.

by RHV on Apr 13, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Seems to be a new language filter. I guess I’m a bad person.

by pacalis on Apr 13, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Randy “I ducked Nog” Couture is what he’ll be known as if he even gets the fight with Fedor.

by ken on Apr 13, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions

He’s ducking the #2 guy to fight the #1.

If he were ducking the #1 guy to get to the #2, you’d have a point but he’s not.

by rhv_19 on Apr 13, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes but if your #3, #4 or #5 you fight #2 to get to #1…..haha

by MoonUK on Apr 13, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah but what makes him think he’s capable of going past number 2. He’s never beaten Nog and is totally blowing Nog off to try to get Fedor. I’d understand if Sylvia was still champ and Couture says “i’ve already beaten sylvia i want fedor” but he’s never fought and has never beaten Nog. Beating the best doesn’t make you the best until you’ve beaten the people the best has beaten as well

by ken on Apr 13, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Couture is a clown IMO.

by Kelvin on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions

A few points on the whole ducking Nog notion.

Point 1: Nog is ranked lower than Fedor. It makes no sense that Randy is ducking an inferior fighter to fight the #1 HW. That’s retarded.

Point 2: Randy left the UFC before the fight with Nog was offered to him.

Point 3: Before the Sylvia v Nog fight, in late January Randy was calling Sylvia (someone he already beat in spectacular fashion) to win by some type of stoppage.

by RHV on Apr 13, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions

He’s an old man who is ready to retire. He just wants one last fight with the world’s greatest. I don’t hate him for it.

by inhuman on Apr 13, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions

That’s exactly how I feel. You people bitching about Randy are forgetting his age. The man may only have one fight left in him and he simply wants to fight the best guy. And sorry, as much as you people hate to admit it Fedor is that guy. This ducking talking is utter nonsense. He simply wants the chance to fight the best in the world one time before he’s done. He’s not saying he is too good to face Nog.

by Eric on Apr 13, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

all im saying is the fight does make sense

by T_Dog on Apr 13, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions

Randy is almost 45 years old and WILL DROP OFF performance wise almost overnight,so it might make sense to use his (quite possible) LAST fight in him to fight the guy that MOST consider the best HW (fedor). He said he would fight Nog after that, if he still has it in him. I just hope he fights Fedor before he goes down hill,big time fast.

by Gord on Apr 13, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions

OK…..So the Detroit Red Wings Win the WESTERN conference and the TORONTO Maple Leafs win the Eatsern conference some how……So now the Red Wings dont think the Leafs are good enough to play them Sooo The Red wings decide to JUST skip the whole Stanley Cup Final…………..This is what Randy is doing to MMA!!

by Bruce on Apr 13, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions

Randys been bitching for so long that he could have fought Nog, Arlovsky and been released already.

Randy’s really screwed it up for other fighters too. Dana gave Randy a break and Randy destabalized the division. Randy’s turned out to be a scared bitch. He should just retire.

by pacalis on Apr 13, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions

Randys been b!tching for so long that he could have fought Nog, Arlovsky and been released already.

Randy’s really screwed it up for other fighters too. Dana gave Randy a break and Randy destabalized the division. Randy’s turned out to be a scared b!tch. He should just retire.

by pacalis on Apr 13, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions

Randy has lost a third of his fights, he can’t be considered the best for anything!

by derreck on Apr 13, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions

REAL fighters don’t pick and choose who they fight, just so they can have an unbeaten record. If you aren’t losing some you are DUCKING the best,Period.

by Gord on Apr 13, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Right, but Randy should be allowed to duck the Nog fight to prevent a loss and then he wouldn’t get a shot at Fedor.

by Brandon on Apr 13, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

You mean like Fedor?

by jdawg on Apr 13, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

i agree w/ everyone who says randy is full of b.s. nog is a true world champion and has fought almost everyone who counts cept randy and a.a.. randy is still an all time great to me but he is really tarnishing his legend and giving a big disservice to nog.

by b.w on Apr 13, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions

Its funny how Couture thinks it makes no sense to fight Nogueira, as if he is above Nogueira. Truth is there have only been 2 heavyweight champions in the History of Pride: Nogueira and Fedor. So Randy can not sell me that it makes no sense to him. Its complete BS because a fight against Nog would be a huge deal, even to the casual fans who dont really know about Nog, they will all still know that Nog won the title by finishing the same man Randy fought to a decision to win the title. This fight would be a marketers DREAM and it will be a huge $$$ moneymaker. Also, since he went AWOL from the UFC, I am sure he can use that as leverage and get a lot of money out of them for fighting nogueira. Randy is just a chump who knows loosing to Nogueira would tarnish the fight with Fedor.

Lets be honest, unless Fedor beats him senselessly into retirment, Fedor wont be Randy’s last opponent. Unless Fedor kills me, I will gaurentee that Randy will fight in mma AGAIN after the Fedor fight, so all this crap about this is the only fight that makes sense is just CRAP! He just doesnt want to fight anyone before he fights Fedor, and he definetly wants no part of such a dangerous guy like Big Nog because I loss will deminish the Fedor fight.

Randy is really going to look like a Jackass after he fights again after the Fedor fight, because it will mean that he could have honored his contract with the UFC. The UFC has done a lot for Randy, the least he could have did was been a man, honored his contract, fought 2 more times and then chased Fedor off into the sunset, until Fedor beats him down.

I will never forget The UFC’s press conference proving how much they paid him and showing the world what a liar he was. Nogeira is just as great of a test as Fedor for Couture so if it really was about what makes sense to him as far as testing himself is complete Crap, its all about the MOney! He knows that he will get Maximum $$$ too fight Fedor, thats all this is about and its a real shame. Lets be real, is he going to be broke if he fights Nog in the UFC instead of fighting Fedor for Cuban? Hell No! He is set financially either way, and to think of how so many fighters do struggle financially is a slap in the face.
I have lost all respect for Couture and Regardless of who he faces Fedor, nog, he is going to not only loose but be finished, so he is going to look like a senile old bat anyway!

Facts are he would be very lucky to get a win over Nogueira and would be one of the biggest notches on his belt, problem is I dont think he could beat Randy. I really cant see it happening.

As fans we are very lucky to have a Legend whose still in his prime as the UFC Heavyweight champion. Nogueira is without a doubt the greatest Heavyweight ever to fight in the UFC, and Randy looks like a real idiot trying to tell us it makes no sense!!!

If Randy wanted to really prove himself and his legacy he would have manned up and fought Nogueira and Arlovski (2 fighters I believe have had a better career at Heavyweight than randy). Then he would be free to to go look for the Randy fight.

For him to just not honor the UFC and try to leave is crap because to say there’s nothing left for him to prove in the UFC is just STUPID. Arlovski and Nogueira would both be better fighters than anyone Randy has ever faced at heavyweight so he should just stop lying to all the fans and tryingt o make it look like its not about money.

He ios worse than Terrell Owens, and least terrell is honest and will tell you its all about the money….Randy calls press conferences to lie to the fans about his financial dealings…What a bunch of shit!

Enough about this old man, he will need dentures a hip replacement soon and Yoko will be collecting his social security checks, this old Fossil!

He last fought in August. He could have fought in December, then April and he would have honored his contract with the UFC and be free to do whatever. Now at best he will have to wait till December to fight Fedor….wait a stupid career move!

by john on Apr 14, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Big Nog has been my favorite HW for some time now, and for good reason. I think Couture knows Nog would be too much of a threat. If he lost to Nog, he probably thinks he wouldn’t get a shot at Fedor.

by Toms Bombs on Apr 13, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions

randy is really turning into an old curmudgeon.

by ajadoniz on Apr 13, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions

Randy should stick to throwing punches rather than attempting to construct rationalizations. If his aging is a serious factor for him, then obviously a fight with Nog actually makes the MOST sense, because with his ongoing legal battle with the UFC it is highly unlikely that he’ll be able to fight Fedor within the year. To make it seem like he doesn’t have much time left to fight, and then to say the most reasonable choice is to go after the opponent for which the most time would be spent disentangling himself from contract disputes rather than fighting or training is rather absurd. IF Couture has enough energy to wait another year or six months or so, then that means he should have enough energy to fight Nog in the meantime. And after the Nog fight, perhaps a few months after that the legal trouble will clear up and he can fight Fedor.

However, I think we all know the real reason he won’t fight Nog is because it would mean a return to the UFC like a dog with its tail between its legs.

by Saint Gasoline on Apr 13, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions

haha i think that randy is right. randy is the best or 2nd best, why should he fight nog??if he beats fedor hes kinda beating them both(FEDOR AND NOG), seeing as nog has been beat twice by fedor. why screw around fighting someone when hes not ganna get ne credit from it. if he beats nog the new line for the fans is, “oh well, fedor beat him any wayz, fedor is still better”. lets just get it over with and have randy vs fedor PLZ

by adam on Apr 13, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions

How do you figure Randy to be the best or second best HW? What’s he done to prove he’s one of the best? He beat Tim after proving he couldn’t hack it at LHW which he moved to after suffering several defeats at HW. If he fights and convincingly beat Nog, which I don’t think he would, then I’d say he’s one of the best. Till then, he’s just a veteran fighter with a mediocre record who beat Tim Sylvia and suddenly thinks he deserves a fight with the best to prove he’s the best.

by clayton on Apr 13, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Randy is 100% wrong!
This fight makes perfect sense, because the fans want to see it happen..In fact there is 3 fights that would make sense for Randy to be involved in.
Randy/Fedor
Randy/Nog
and Randy/Chuck
So For Randy to say that Fedor is the only fight that makes sense for him, when there is millions of fans that want to see him fight Nog, is retarded! He should be thinking about the fans, and not himself!

by Stagger-Lee on Apr 13, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions

Comment by Gord
2008-04-13 14:25:59
REAL fighters don’t pick and choose who they fight, just so they can have an unbeaten record. If you aren’t losing some you are DUCKING the best,Period.

Are u stupid??hes trying to fight the best ranked hw..how can u call that ducking?haha man wheres ur head

by adam on Apr 13, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions

HAHAHAHAHA Randy is a coward. what a sucker! He quit when Liddell knocked him out and now he’s running scared of Nog because Nog would mess him up.

by sbud on Apr 13, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions

I’ve said it since the day he “retired” : randy turned his back on MMA and his fans with this kind of nonsense. Boo Hoo I cant fight Fedor. Shut up and do your job. He gets paid plenty……I’m not the biggest Dana White fan either but he is right, never feel sorry for a millionaire.

by tobin on Apr 13, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions

Comment by adam
2008-04-13 14:33:25

haha i think that randy is right. randy is the best or 2nd best, why should he fight nog??

Randy should fight Nog because Nog is the UFC interim Champion and Randy should defend his belt, as he is under contract with UFC. So it does make sense. Are you atupid?

by tobin on Apr 13, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions

Dude, I’m starting to lose alot of respect for Randy…..Its like all this hype has gone to his head and all he can think about is money……..I’m so disapointed in him….I never thought i would see the day when “The Natural” backed out of a “CHAMPIONSHIP” fight. Why the hell did this guy come out of retirement anyway?? If he really cared about the sport and the fans he wuld honor hi F**king contract and fight Nog………..

by Homeslice on Apr 13, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions

Que tonteia . . quiza el estar viejo lo hace pensar que es aguien que puede escoger con quien pelear y con quien no . . . que tiene Nogueira .. cintiron de PRIDE y cinturon de UFC . que tiene Fedor? El prestigio de ser el mejor de la historia . . que tiene Rany? . . Nada . solo palabras . .

deberia pelear contra nogueira Mientras fedor contra Sylvia . . si los dos ganan . seria mas sensato una pelea a fin de aÃ±o . . no creen??

by Erik on Apr 13, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions

Si

by Hamilton on Apr 13, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Si! me gusta nadar

by Brandon on Apr 13, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s official – Randy’s ducking Nog

by Teflon on Apr 13, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

Stupid old man is scared to lose to Big Nog is all, he knows if he loses to Nog which is extremely likely that he wont get a shot at fedor so hes being a bitch and taking the bitch way out.

by Khaos_Warrior on Apr 13, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions

Randy i agree with you on this one dont wast your time on this bum you wanna fight who eveyone thinks is the best so just wait to fight fedor who i think is a bum myself. He has not beaten anyone who is credible to be a top tier opponent and after you beat fedor sign a 1 fight deal with the ufc beat the hell out of this bum nog and walk away with the title once again.

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Apr 13, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions

I really do not like Randy Couture at all anymore. I’ve lost so respect for him over this whole ordeal it is ridiculous.

by slash on Apr 13, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

What makes sense is Randy is scared of Nog. He realizes that if he got beat by Nog he wouldn’t be deserving of fighting Fedor. So the only person he’ll risk getting beat by is Fedor.

by Brandon A on Apr 13, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

what makes randy think he is the best he is 16-8 that record does not justify his claims of being the best he has not beaten many top fighters in his career and in my opinion nog is much more accomplished than randy is and nog also is not a greedy whiner like randy and nog is a true fighter willing to fight anybody at anytime

by matt on Apr 13, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

You guys that are taking shit about Randy should understand that he’s 44 yrs. old. If he never fought Fedor and just finished out his career with the UFC there would be critics that would say he never tried to fight the best. But he’s trying to make a fight with the guy that supposedly is #1 in the world, and there’s still shit talking. There’s no making some of you guys happy is there.

by JV on Apr 13, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t think anyone’s saying he should fight Nog and then retire. I think the consensus is, if he fought Nog who he seems to think he can beat, he’ll be done with his UFC contract and free to fight Fedor. Sure he’s 44, but he could have fought Nog when he was still 43 and have been done with his legal troubles before they started. Besides, if he beats Fedor, to me, all that proves is that Fedor isn’t the best in the world. It doesn’t prove Randy is.

by clayton on Apr 13, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

That makes no sense. If Randy beats Fedor, neither are best in the world? Are you implying Fedor is #1 if Randy can’t beat him?

Randy still has two fights on his contract. Not one.

by RHV on Apr 13, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

oops, i though he had just the one. And yes, if Fedor beats Randy, Fedor is STILL number 1.

by Clayton on Apr 14, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions

SO, what happens if Fedor loses too Sylvia…..lol
Is Couture going too go Running to the UFC to fight NOG…..lol..because Nog, would become #1 in the World if Sylvia wins!!!!!!!!!

by Bruce on Apr 13, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions

You know what will happen if Fedor loses to Sylvia: I’ll laugh. I’ll laugh that deep down laugh of the truly happy. And I will enjoy a beer while laughing. I don’t think it will happen but I will f in love it!

by chefdaddy on Apr 14, 2008 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Fedor beat Nog twice so it’s Randy’s turn to beat Nog to prove that Randy is capable of beating Fedor but unfortunately he’s still trap with the contract unless Fedor sign with the UFC so now we have wait till contract meets deadline.

by goreman on Apr 13, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions

retire in 2006, comeback to fight for the title, and then duck and cover till who knows when?

by ognitinoc on Apr 13, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

What “just doesnt make sense” is signing a contract and not honoring it, because you were unaware that at 43 years old (at the time) you were about to have a midlife crisis that involved wanting to grapple with a russian bear.

Just fight Nog and quit losing the respect of your fans.

by DirtyML on Apr 13, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions

We still can’t say Randy hasn’t honored his contract. That’s what the courts are deciding.

by RHV on Apr 13, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions

" Comment by JV
2008-04-13 16:02:07
You guys that are taking shit about Randy should understand that he’s 44 yrs. old. If he never fought Fedor and just finished out his career with the UFC there would be critics that would say he never tried to fight the best. But he’s trying to make a fight with the guy that supposedly is #1 in the world, and there’s still shit talking. There’s no making some of you guys happy is there. "

YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT THE UFC WILL NOT LET THIS FIGHT HAPPEN UNLESS IT IS UNDER THEIR TERMS. #2 HE IS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN AS DOMINANT OF A FIGHTER THAT SOME BELIVE AND I CAN NAME 10 FIGHTERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT ARE WAY MORE DOMINANT. BY THE WAY I WAS A HUGE COUTURE FAN 9 MONTHS AGO. #3 WOULD YOU RATHER SEE THIS LEGAL BATTLE CONTINUE FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG OR JUST BE ABLE TO WATCH COUTURE FIGHT, I PERSONALLY WANT TO SEE COUTURE FIGHT. I CAN NAME A FEW GUYS THAT WOULD GIVE HIM A RUN FOR HIS MONEY. BIG NOG IS NO EASY TASK… STOP ACTING LIKE TITO

by SCOTT on Apr 13, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

I agree with you but look at it this way 2 fights left could mean atleast 2 yrs. before he could get out and fight Fedor right. Or just ride it out till the contract expires in Oct. and then fight Fedor wich is what he is doing. You can’t blame a 44 yr old man for doing whats best for him. Why did the UFC release Tim with 1 fight left? And if you feel that your not being treated fairly then what would you do? If it were up to me I would want it under the UFC but you can’t blame the man for doing whats best for himself. And as for people saying he’s ducking Nog, well he’s trying to fight the man who beat Nog twice isn’t he?

by JV on Apr 14, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions

very well said

by mad_drummer on Apr 14, 2008 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions

The main point is that if Fedor and Randy wanted so badly to fight they would have done it by now. How long have these 2 been fighting???

Some promoter has been tapping them up for a big bucks showdown. Why did Randy sign with the ufc again or why didn’t Fedor sign with the ufc if they both had a burning desire to fight each other? Cos they dont! they just want the dollars!

by MoonUK on Apr 13, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions

Oh ok randy, maybe Chuck should fight Fedor since chuck has beaten you twice………urhhhh

by MoonUK on Apr 13, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions

This has nothing to do with Randy, but this was posted on www.sportsnet.ca on Friday.

GSP: ‘I train to fight an army’
Thursday, April 10, 2008

Georges St. Pierre believes there isn’t one man that can keep him down. (Zuffa)RelatedSerra wants respect

Full UFC 83 fight card
Sportsnet.ca — Georges St. Pierre came into his UFC title fight against Matt Serra one year ago with the weight of huge expectations on his shoulders.

So what has he done to prepare for next week’s rematch in Montreal, this time with the weight of an entire nation?

Simple: Train as if he’s taking on an entire nation.

“I train to fight an army, not a single person,” St. Pierre said during Thursday’s pre-UFC 83 media conference call. "I’ve been sparring every week with very high-calibre fighters and fresh guys every round on me.

“If an army can’t bring me down, one man will never do it.”

The war references didn’t end there for the man who has been battling not just fighters over the past year, but a perception that he isn’t mentally tough.

“I read a book called Art of War, by Sun Tzu,” St. Pierre explains. "He said, ‘Battles are won by momentum.’ And if you look at last year, I was coming from an injury and Matt Serra was on a winning streak. He was on fire and he beat me.

“Now the scenario is totally reversed. Matt Serra (is) coming from an injury, and me (a two-fight winning streak). So I think I got the momentum on my side and I think it’s going to help me win that fight.”

Things really have changed for St. Pierre since losing his welterweight title to the New Yorker at UFC 69 last April. And there’s no question he has momentum working for him after becoming the new interim champion in December. That momentum is evident in and away from the cage as he is steadily becoming a bona fide star in the media.

And things have changed in his personal life. After dealing with personal issues last year which he doesn’t like to talk much about, the 26-year-old from Montreal changed his entourage.

He split with his manager Stephane Patry and hired Shari Spencer, someone he’s said he’s felt very privileged to have met. She handles all the business aspects of his career and allows him to focus on what he needs to do. That includes working with top trainers, such as Greg Jackson, and dealing with a sports psychologist. That has been key for his confidence.

In his past two wins, both dominant ones over Josh Koscheck and Matt Hughes, there didn’t seem to be any problem with his mental game. Yet the questions still come.

And he answers them quite graciously, every time.

“I do a lot of imagery (to mentally prepare for fights). It helps me to focus and to visualize what I’m going to do in the Octagon,” St. Pierre said. "When I walk into the Octagon on April 19, it’s not going to be the first time that it happens. I will already do the scenario before.

“That’s a trick that (my sports psychologist) gave me, but I’ve been reading a lot of stuff since then and a lot of athletes do the same thing, like (in a) 100-metre race and every other sport.”

Of course, there will be one difference on April 19. He’ll be fighting at the Bell Centre. He started his career fighting in the Montreal-based TKO Championship Fighting, but his last one there was in January 2005, and that was before the organization held events at the major sports arena where the famed Canadiens play.

It’s a dream for St. Pierre, but will the pressure of the moment and the mere size of the arena, packed to capacity with his fans, be overwhelming?

“I’m at my best when I’m fighting under pressure. It keeps me sharp and is going to give me a good positive vibe. I can’t wait.”

MORE QUOTES:

LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE: Asked about whether he sees any weaknesses to exploit in Serra’s game, St. Pierre responded with a yes-and-no:

“At this level of fighting, he’s the world champion. He doesn’t have much of a weakness. But he has some part of his game that he’s not as good as some other parts. So of course, I want to explore those parts of the game.

“I do have a specific strategy. I’ve been studying him a lot and I know how to fight him. And I’m going to fight him in a way that that nobody fought him before. I’m going to do some stuff that people have never seen before and it’s going to be a different story.”

I WOULD NEVER FIGHT A FRIEND: Asked if would he consider going up weight classes and fighting Anderson Silva, St. Pierre responded with a maybe:

“I’ve been thinking about it. It’s going to depend of the scenario. I have a lot of training partners at 185 and my weight class is 170. I would never get into the way of one of my training partners because I would never fight a friend. I would never fight somebody I train with.

“But if one day, I have the opportunity, the way is clear, and I did everything I had to do in my division, of course I will.”

by Jo on Apr 13, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions

hey for all you dont understand, randy’s got a point, & just incase he fight nog & if ever “lost” then he will lost a shot against fedor & he’s 44,not enought time to climb back up again.

use your brain!

by mad_drummer on Apr 13, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions

Well said Mr Couture. Well said.

by GodannarJunkie on Apr 13, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions

not saying Nog is’nt a good fighter but Randy would roll him up and smoke him like a blunt. randy should fight fedor so we can stop discussing this.then he can smoke Nog…..

by jdawg on Apr 13, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions

Seems like you were smoking a blunt when you wrote this comment.

by JJ on Apr 14, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

YA all need to rememebr one big thing: the person this fight makes $en$e to is danadouchebag!

by ihatedana on Apr 13, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions

Nog would beat couture, couture knows this.

Why would he fight when he knows he gonna lose and worst of all make the ufc money.

I hope UFC goes bankrupt, XC too for all his talk Shaw is a shady guy just not as shady as dana and his mafia owners. Anyone who seriously thinks some UFC fights are not rigged are just plain retarded. Not to say some Pride were not.

Jucing: Pride fighters don’t need to juice because they actually fight in their NATURAL weight class.

Many UFC fighters (Franklin) enjoy half their sucessess to their insane ability to cut weight. Not what I view as a top quality of a fighter!

by ihatedana on Apr 13, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions

all fighters cut weight to get to the weight class better suited for them. Anderson Silva could easly fight at LHW, doe’s that mean he’s not a top quality fighter because he cuts weight to fight at MW?

by JV on Apr 14, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions

All fighters at all levels cut weight to fight at the weight class better suited for them. Anderson Silva could easly fight at LHW does this mean he’s not a top quality fighter cause he fights at MW?

by JV on Apr 14, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions

The wight cutting statement is absurd. that in itself is an art and a dicsipline that must be worked at. Wrestlers are great at it and that is why they have so much success at it. Pride fighters did not have to juice? Why is Shogun running around with manboobs then?

by Da Monkey on Apr 14, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions

to Scott:
1. The UFC may have no choice in the matter but regardless i hope it happens.
2 There may be more dominant heavyweights out there but none of them has done “the impossible” more times than Randy. Before Rampage no one had taken Chuck out standing, he schooled your boy Tito in his prime and he DOMINATED The Maine-iac who, while is way over-rated was favored by almost everyone to kill Randy, for 5 rounds (not to mention everyone said Gonzaga was going to destroy him, but maybe that’s not the impossible.)Randy Couture is Captain America. 3 I think he’ll find a way to beat Fedor if they do fight and I understand why he wouldn’t want to risk losing to anyone before it happens. That said, I can name half a dozen fights I would like to see Randy take before he retires (AA, Brock, Nog, Mir, Wanderlei) but he is 44 years old. If he feels like he only has one or two fights left in him, who are we to say he shouldn’t fight who he wants. He has given enough to the sport, I think.

by Z on Apr 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions

Right on…

I can’t understand the logic behind ducking the #2 guy to get to the #1. Even if he is ducking Nog, let him. He’s given tons to the sport. If he has any left in him, as he said, the Nog fight can come later.

I think, rightly or not, Randy thinks he would beat Nog. I think so too. He’d do exactly what he did to Gonzaga. No ground game. No standup. The Greco clinch and dirty boxing will do it. I can’t see Nog out wrestling him or doing dirty boxing better than Randy.

by RHV on Apr 14, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions

But he would submit him with incredible ease! If you dont know by now Nogueira has probably the best ground game in the whole of MMA.

by JJ on Apr 14, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s why I’m saying he wouldn’t take it to the ground. Randy would tie him up against the cage just like he did with Gonzaga. Nog can probably out strike and out jiujitsu Randy but he can’t out wrestle him (greco style) or out dirty box him.

by rhv on Apr 14, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Nogueira is also an accomplished boxer so dirty boxing really is his game too. I think anyway Randy tries to play the fight out, Nog will have an answer. Hes a more well rounded fighter than Randy and has the size advantage. Easy win for Nog

by JJ on Apr 15, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

id love to see randy face NOG and NOG more than deserves a match with him…

NOG strikes me as a guy who will face anybody and wants to prove he is the best in the world over and over again… great guy to have as ufc champion always comes to fight and will never lay n pray for a decision like certain big oafs :)

at the same time if randy feels he only has 1 fight/payday left in him then he has every right to go after the guy widely considered as best in the world… sucks for NOG and is a huge shame that we mmay never see randy fight again… if this stays in court for a year father time may finally make randy tap out

by nate diaz on Apr 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions

To ZZZZ:

1. Tito is not my boy, he is a whinny biotch.

2. I really like Couture and let me re-phrase, the UFC will do everything in their power to make Couture live up to the contract he signed.

3. Everyone still makes a big deal about his age and how long he will fight. Everyone has been doing this since he was 39 so I am pretty sure none of us can say when he will retire because to me it looks like he is in better shape than 90% of the guys out there.

4. As much as I like Couture he has never been an unbelievably DOMINANT fighter like Liddell or Hughes.

5. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IF RANDY COUTURE WOULD HAVE LIVED UP TO THE LAST 2 FIGHTS OF HIS CONTRACT, WIN OR LOSE BOTH OF THOSE FIGHTS WE COULD HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE TO SEEING THE FEDOR FIGHT HAPPEN. HE FOUGHT GONZAGA IN AUGUST 07, COULD HAVE FOUGHT IN JAN PR FEB, AND AGAIN THIS SUMMER. FINISHED HIS CONTRACT OUT WITH THE UFC ON GOOD TERMS AND ON TO FIGHT FEDOR IN THE FALL OF 08’. INSTEAD WE GET TO ARGUE ABOUT ALL THIS SHIT AND THE UFC WILL WIN THE LAWSUIT. SO WHERE DOES THIS PUT RANDY NOW? DOES HE GET TO JUST GO AND FIGHT IN ANOTHER ORGANIZATION? OR WILL THEY MAKE HIM LIVE UP TO THE CONTRACT HE SIGNED?

by SCOTT on Apr 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions

scott what you feel about tito has no concerns of the matter at hand even though i think your dead wrong on your opinion but. randy has beaten chuck once and matt hughes ….hes just plain terrible of late he just dont fight like he used to. i see randys point in one perspective he is up their in his age and while there is still gas in the tank i believe he deserves to fight who he chooses to i believe he has earned the right to do so and actually the way nog looked against silva he was dead tired and you know like i do randy is a freak when it comes to his cardio i truley believe nog would be a waste of a fight for him at this time in his carrer and a risk of injuy does exist in every mma fight.the law suit is in progress but like he said in july contract is up and he can go anywhere he wants even though the law suit is in progress he will be a free to hook up and try to make this happen…but my guess will be fedor will sighn with the ufc and duck randy but i hope im wrong.

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Apr 14, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

randy won’t fight nogueira nor fedor. he knows he’ll lose to both guys

by Scott on Apr 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions

hes scared.

by huerta39 on Apr 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t care who’s overrated, who gets paid what, who would win in what imaginary matchup, i don’t care what anyone thinks about any legacy.

It boils down to this: RANDY HAS A CONTRACT. He signed it. It’s a NEW contract. He should honor it. His word and his signature should MEAN SOMETHING, or his legacy will be that of a liar.

by TeamPriapism on Apr 13, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions

randy is getting old, if he had a brain he would honor his contract and fight nog. even if it his last fight it would still be against a damn legend. i gurantee if he would have agreed to the fight 5 months ago he could be on his last contract fight and closer to fighting fedor(assuming he beat nog, which would be a huge upset). but seriously, randy u signed a contract and all u got in this world is your word and your balls, you shouldn’t break either one of them cuz if you do you arent a man.

ALSO: fedor would eat randy for breakfast. fedor isn’t human and randy is, END THREAD.

by d00d on Apr 13, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions

Randy left the UFC with the intention of fighting Fedor, waay before Nogiera became Interim Champ. Let’s not forget Nogiera vs. Herring.
Randy would look like a puss if he didn’t stick to his dicision to leave.
And Fedor, liked or not, is viewed as unbeatable. He’s #1.
That is the fight Randy is right to wait for. Especially if he beats Sylvia.

by jess on Apr 13, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t know if this has been said because I didn’t read all the previous comments. But to everyone who is claiming that Randy should fight Fedor now because he has the chance to go down as the greatest MMA fighter in history, you’re trippin! Even if he beat Fedor, how is he a better fighter than Chuck Liddell? Chuck dominated him in his last 2 fights at LHW. Therefore, if beating Fedor would make Randy better than Fedor, he still wouldn’t be better than Chuck because Chuck beat him 2 out of 3 fights. The math just doesn’t work. Even if Randy were to beat Fedor, Fedor has beaten much more impressive competition in his career.

by GregC on Apr 13, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions

but in the heavyweight division, YES..

by mad_drummer on Apr 14, 2008 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions

Randy “The Natural” Couture
  Record 16 – 8 – 0 (Win – Loss – Draw)
Wins
  7 (T)KOs (43.75%)
  2 Submissions (12.50%)
  7 Decisions (43.75%)
Losses
  4 (T)KOs (50.00%)
  4 Submissions (50.00%)

Antonio Rodrigo “Minotauro” Nogueira
  Record 31 – 4 – 1 (Win – Loss – Draw) ( 1 NC )
Wins
  3 (T)KOs (9.68%)
  19 Submissions (61.29%)
  9 Decisions (29.03%)
Losses
  4 Decisions (100.00%)

YOU BE THE JUDGE OF WHO SHOULD FIGHT FEDOR NEXT.

Tim Sylvia
Maine-iac
Record 24 – 4 – 0 (Win – Loss – Draw)
Wins
  16 (T)KOs (66.67%)
  2 Submissions (8.33%)
  6 Decisions (25.00%)
Losses
  3 Submissions (75.00%)
  1 Decisions (25.00%)

EVEN THOUGH I DONT LIKE TO WATCH TIMMY FIGHT, HE DESERVES IT MORE THAN RANDY.

RANDY THINKS HE’S BETTER THAN HE IS.

by STEW on Apr 13, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions

The only problem with this theory is that Randy is better than Tim. He’s already showed us that.

by jimmy_dean on Apr 14, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions

Whoa … you paint a very vivid picture here and making a good point! Randy unfairly gets a lot of credit for his age and Tim unfairly gets a lot of criticism for his style.

by bostonmmajunkie on Apr 14, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Randy wants to go out with a bang. Fedor would provide him that bang not Nog. Most people agree Fedor is the best HW.

It is not in Randy’s interest to fight #2.

As for people that think Randy is a coward because he wants to fight Fedor and not Nog, get real. They’re just pissed because a fighter is playing the game like they think it shouldn’t be played.

No reason to start calling fighters names, People. Get over it.

by RHV on Apr 13, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions

everybody wants to see him fight fedor more then nog. i think hes making a smart career choice. i say he has about one last good fight in him & then hes done. time will catch up to randy. he should fight fedor when hes at his best. which is now!!!! LOL

by kAiNOA PilAGO on Apr 14, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions

Some people still dwell on Pride so much that they hate anybody that was never in Pride. Pride is dead and what are you guys gonna do when all the former Pride fighters finally retire? I liked Pride too but the past is the past and it seems like some people won’t let it go. I hate Fedor but I am a realist and will never count him out of a fight. I would think that all you Randy haters would have some degree of respect for Randy. What other fighter has done what Randy has done in their fortys. Randy has also served in the military and still does a lot for our troops. What has Fedor done for America? Thats kind of how I see it and not to be racist or anything but how can all of you Americans want to see a fighter from another continent beat someone that has fought for your freedom and still supports the men and women that are currently defending your country.

by jimmy_dean on Apr 14, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions

wheres the violent mike translation on this one?

by BLOodyMEss on Apr 14, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions

SNORE..

Tired of hearing about Couture. He ain’t even that good. If he ever fights Fedor, he’ll get wrecked, so as far as I’m concerned, the only reason I’m anticipating that fight is to see him get his ass beat.

by fedor on Apr 14, 2008 1:34 AM EDT reply actions

the fact that he considers himself the #2 HW in the world is ridiculous. He has only beaten “fat a*s” sylvia and “let’s hope this fight finishes quickly because I am tired” gonzaga..

Fedor will destroy him.

by shamo84 on Apr 14, 2008 3:36 AM EDT reply actions

randy only wants fedor because in his eyes that is THE number 1 rival anywhere. if the man wants to finish his career fighting the fans favorite… why not?

by beeracle on Apr 14, 2008 4:15 AM EDT reply actions

If JArdine beats Silva, and Chucks beats rashad. Let Jardine fight the winner of JAckson and forrest. ( He is worthy of a shot). Let Chuck move up and fight for the Heavyweight title. He said he would do it. There are not many options at heavyweight. ? Mir

by cmac on Apr 14, 2008 5:56 AM EDT reply actions

this is not likely but a good idea iceman vs nogeira would be awesome!

by markg on Apr 14, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Honor your contract man….as much as you think you are getting screwed, you signed it!!! And note to Randy, you are a legend, but not the #2 HW in the world.

by Jake on Apr 14, 2008 7:14 AM EDT reply actions

Randy should think about the fans!
We want to see him fight Nog, so that is reason enough for him to step up and fight.
If the fans want to see it then it “makes sense”!!!
Sometimes Randy himself does not make sense.

by Stagger-Lee on Apr 14, 2008 7:33 AM EDT reply actions

I don’t see how Randy would ever be considered ‘the best.’ What is his record, 16-8? Or something very similar. That’s a great batting percentage if this was baseball. I think Nog would put a hurtin’ on him. And Fedor would beat him like he owned him.

by chefdaddy on Apr 14, 2008 7:33 AM EDT reply actions

Remember when Tito was champ and he refused to fight Chuck, and Randy stepped up, fought and beat Chuck?
Randy was given a LHW interim title, while Tito was the LHW Champ. Then Randy demanded that Tito fight him to settle who is Champ!!Tito finally did step up to fight and he lost, But at least Tito fought.
Now.
Randy declined to fight Nog, Nog beat Tim for HW interim status and now is calling out the Champ.(just like Randy did years ago)but this time the shoes are on the other feet, Randy is pulling a Tito, but the only difference is Tito ended up fighting…I dont see Randy doing the same..WOW who whould have thought that Randy would ever act this way??
BTW. I am no fan of Tito’s but at least he ended up fighting. He put it all on the line and lost..He never reclaimed the LHW title and never will. He did duck for a while, but at least he fought!

by Stagger-Lee on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 AM EDT reply actions

C’mon guys. Randy is in a legal dispute to get out of the UFC. And he doesn’t have much longer to go before his contract will be up. He doesn’t want to fight in the UFC anymore, and he wants to fight Fedor. It’s not about ‘ducking’ Nog. Nog is gonna’ have to get over it.

by jess on Apr 14, 2008 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Stagger Lee: You made the best post on this entire thread! Good stuff man!

by john on Apr 14, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions

There are differences.
1. Randy is entering his mid forties! He doesn’t have much time left.
2. Tito ducked UFC’s LH #1 fighter. He didn’t ask for any above him… Chuck was the #1.
3. Randy wanted to fight the #1 fighter outside the UFC and was very vocal about it immediately after his Gonzaga win and before the Timmy fight was officially offered (probably even talked about but we don’t know this).
Dana wouldn’t make it happen and so he split.

by rhv on Apr 14, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Bring back Barnett. That is who Fedor Should have fought instead of Sylvia but that would probably a little too dangerous. If Randy or Fedor want to claim to best they both have to beat Josh Barnett no matter what anybody says. I definately think Anderson Silva is the best in his weight class but again, I would love to see him take on Matt Lindland, he the only one that is really worthy and may be the only one that could possibly test Anderson in that division.

by Ade on Apr 14, 2008 8:46 AM EDT reply actions

How do you call a guy a coward for wanting to fight the best guy in the world. Just after Randy’s last fight, most top ten ratings considered him number 2 under Fedor. Nog has taken some of those just because he’s been more active lately. But if he was considered number 2, why would he want to step down and fight a lower ranked fighter. No fighter would want to do that, Randy is simply looking for the greatest challenge, how do you not respect a guy for that.
Everybody knocks the UFC for that way they treat fighters, and the way they run their business, most people think they are extremely un-ethical. So Randy gives them a taste of their own medicine and some how he’s the bad guy now…..get real people.
Randy is 44 years old, he’s thinking its possible he may only have 1 good fight left in him. You’re dumb if you think his next fight should be anybody but Fedor.
Props to Randy for wanting the greatest challenge possible for him!

by Jay on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 AM EDT reply actions

You can call him a coward because he is clearly ducking Nog. I don’t know how you can see it any other way. He would fight Nog if he wasn’t scared that he’d lose and then have a fight between him and Fedor be pointless. Aside from that, I don’t know how you can call the UFC’s business practices unethical. They have their fighters sign exclusive contracts just like any major sporting organization. And if Randy disagreed with his contract he shouldn’t have signed it. Seriously, the UFC brought back a guy who had been knocked out in his last 2 fights at LHW and gave him a title shot at HW. They also gave him a huge signing bonus with the expectation that he’d give them 4 fights. If he lived up to that I would have no problem with him walking away to fight Fedor.

by GregC on Apr 14, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions

I see another way of looking at it. I think it’s childish to call fighters names with respect to their career decisions.

Calling Randy a coward is like calling a white belt a coward because he wants to compete with the black belts instead.

There is still a question as to what that contract says. There, apparently, is room for interpretation of the contract. That’s why it’s going to court… so an independent judge can rule as to who is right.

I remember in interviews (not UFC Wired but the other show with Roegan), Randy said he could walk away from the contract any time he wanted. This was before the Timmy fight. It seems to me like he genuinely thought this was an option for him. Dana disagrees. A judge will decide.

I’m sure both Dana and Randy feel they’re honoring the contract and they both feel the other person is trying to demand more.

by rhv on Apr 14, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

While I understand Randy’s perspective on this, I don’t agree with him. Nogueira is the real deal and if Randy wants to be remembered as a legend he should bang with Nog.

Randy says that Nog got beat twice by Fedor so it doesn’t make sense to fight Nog? Well Randy, you got your ass handed to you twice by Liddell, Fedor can easily say he doesn’t want to fight you.

by tripleainto on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply actions

If I were Nog, I’d be insulted by Randy’s comments. I like Randy but he is talking too much for his own good and as you can even see in these forums, fans are not liking all this chatter from him at this point.

by bostonmmajunkie on Apr 14, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions

A fight with Nog doesnt make sense, but a possible submission fight with Angle does??? Say the Fedor fight never happens, the next guy is Monotauro. Remember that the only guy that Fedor has ever stated that can possibly beat him is Nogueira. I know he has beaten him twice but for Fedor to say such a thing only implies how good a fighter Nogueira actually is.

by JJ on Apr 14, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions

I am tired of listening to this coward. he’s a freekn millionare and does nothing but complain about money. He lost to Chuck—TWICE! Couture really needs to beat Rampage and Jardine before he can talk any smack. Couture has beaten Silvia and Gonzaga ~~- both B fighters in my opinion. Nog would submit Randay~~-no doubt in my mind.

by Spitforce on Apr 14, 2008 11:11 AM EDT reply actions

He beat Tim Sylvia and Gonzaga. Nogeira beat Tim Sylvia and Herring. Couture got beat twice by Liddell prior to that. Couture is ranked number 1 only because the division was so weak. One more win for Nogeira and he will be placed in front of Couture in the rankings. Couture has turned into a bigger bitch than my ex-wife.

by c-war on Apr 14, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions

Then your one tracked and completely biased against Randy. Couture definately has a better chance against Fedor then Silva does. Now time for the facts….
Not…

by ntvman on Apr 14, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions

It seems to me most MMA fans only want what’s best for them, with really no concern for the fighters at all. And because Randy wants to do what he wants, and not what the fans want he is a coward. How selfish is that. He may well have signed a contract, so what, it’s his health on the line, not the fans or the UFC’s. At Randys age he believes he has not got much time left in MMA and so he wants to fight the best Fedor. What is wrong with that. He has done his bit for the fans and the UFC in the past and put on some amazing performances, now it’s time to think of himself he’s a coward. Without doubt I think he would beat Nog. Nog was getting destroyed by Sylvia in the stand up and if Sylvia had any balls and actually fought to win and not to survive he would have beaten Nog. That is one of Sylvia’s problems, he is to scared to take any chances. Again if Herring had followed up when he knocked Nog down, we would not be having this debate. Randy would not make any of the mistakes these guys did. He would finish Nog no doubt about. If he believes he has not got much fight left, why should he risk fighting Nog and getting an injury that may put him out of action for good, ruining his chance of ever fighting Fedor, the guy nearly everyone rates as No’1. Going out beating Nog won’t mean a thing, going out beating Fedor,now that’s another story. (Would still like to see them both fight Barnett though).

by Ade on Apr 14, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions

Im sorry, if you think that by beating Nog doesnt mean a thing then you my friend know nothing about MMA. Look at Nogs list of fighters he has beaten compared to Randys. There is no doubt who has faced stiffer competition and who has more legacy in the sport between the two. Hes beaten Barnet, Herring 3 times, Sylvia, Coleman, Hunt, Overeem, Crocop and took Fedor the distance twice. There are no excuses for Sylvia and Herring not finishing Nog. They were beaten by the better fighter. They didnt take their chances and he did. There is no bigger name in the HW division after Fedor than Nog. Randy beats Gonzaga and Sylvia and all of a sudden hes the best heavyweight in the world? This is the same guy whos lost to Chuck twice, Barnett, Ricco Rodriguez, Overeem. Put him up against a top heavyweight and he will be overwhelmed. Fedor will smash him and Nog would submit him easily.

by JJ on Apr 14, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually do know a bit about MMA,you are completely missing my point. When I say doesn’t mean a thing I am talking about as far as people are concerned, Randy would be remembered a lot more for beating Fedor then he ever would beating Nog.

by Ade on Apr 15, 2008 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions

And when he loses he will just be remembered by everyone as the guy who lost to Fedor, the same guy that hasnt been fighting world class fighters for the past three years. Whats even more funny is that Fedor will fight Sylvia first. If Fedor loses where does that leave Randy? Nog has beaten Fedor and so has Randy. IMO there is a lot more sense in Randy fighting Nog, an active fighter willing to fight anyone than Fedor whos fighting weak opponents. Im beginning to believe that Fedor will get beaten by Tim just because hes been inactive from tough competition for a long time. Sylvia is an awkward fighter and if he beats Fedor then Randys only option is to fight Nog. Might aswell fight him now. Randy wont fight Fedor until Feb 2009 the earliest IMO, and by then he will be that little bit slower and since his inactive will be worst. He has no chance and is making a stupid mistake.

by JJ on Apr 15, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry Nog has beaten Sylvia and so has Randy*

by JJ on Apr 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

The reason that Sylvia didnt finish Nog was that he respected Nog’s ground game and rightfully so. That is not a mistake by Sylvia but a part of his strategy. Tim wanted to knock Nog out standing and you can see several times Tim had the top position, he backed away and stood up. This is because of Nog is reknowned to be the best BJJ practitioner in HW div and Sylvia’s BJJ is pretty much non-existant.

Herring on the other hand, didn’t finish Nog inexplicably. I think that he had feared Nog’s ground game too but there was a point Nog was pretty much out and it would have just took some shots for the ref to call it in my humble opinion.

Oh well …

Anyways, Nog deserves Randy’s respect, thats for sure.

by bostonmmajunkie on Apr 14, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions

Is it just me or should Randy Couture just die already? He is a worthless human being who needs to find a high cliff to swan dive from…he is scared of Big Nog and doesn’t want to get his old ass beat into the nursing home…maybe if he wasn’t so busy shooting HGH and worrying about his worthless gold-digging no skills having wife..he would take the fight and get beat like the man..I mean traitor…that he is!

by DaGrizzlyBear on Apr 14, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions

I’m pretty sure Nog would beat Couture. Couture’s standup is pretty lousy. Randy beat Sylvia standing because Sylvia failed to adapt his standup. Nog’s standup is nothing to write home about, but he’s technically solid and usually smart enough to change what’s not working, unlike Sylvia. I think Nog could hang with Randy no problem standing, and would have a decided advantage on the ground (he’s faced fighters with much better ground games than Couture). Randy’s only chance, IMO, would be from the clinch, and I’m pretty sure Randy would be unable to hold Nog in the clinch long enough to grind out a boring decision.

by Clayton on Apr 14, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions

I feel completely the opposite.

I agree that Nog is better on the ground and probably a better striker as well but I’m sure Nog won’t be able to take Randy down and I’m sure Randy can tie him up against the fence at will.

Randy’s a pretty strategic fighter so he might even take Nog down at the end of every round just to solidify the points to his favor. I think Randy will be able to take Nog down at will.

So I think Randy would win by dirty boxing.

by rhv on Apr 14, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

How many of you have signed a contract with AT&T, Dish Network, or any other company? So if they start to screw you around are you just going to suck it up because you want to honor your contract? Um…no. This is Randy’s life. Randy’s career. Yes he is contracted with UFC, but he obviously felt they weren’t holding up their end of that contract. Stop giving the guy hell about trying to do what’s best for him and his family.

by wAyNe on Apr 14, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions

Actually if you dont stick out your contracts you get penalized financially. And we’re not talking about some ten year slave contract. It was a few more months and he bitched out to make gay movies like scorpion king three. I mean he talked a lot of shit about being all for his fans and he couldnt even fight one more time, and hold on for six months. I mean even Tito, who most people think is the real cry baby, is fighting out his contract….cause hes about his fans.

by tobin on Apr 14, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions

What really kills me even more so than all of the contract bullshit, is that nuthugging fans as well as himself have decided that he gets number two position in the rankings because he beat GG. If he wants to use f’ed mmath then since Nog has beaten all the heavies that randy has lost to, it makes no sense for nog to fight him, he’s clearly better than him (which is still the case without mmath).

by NameNotRequired on Apr 15, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions

most of you guys are a big excuse after another! there will always be something that wont please you. what point that randy is making isnt clear enough for you? FEDOR beat NOG twice already, so why go after NOG and not FEDOR? there s a reason why randy is the savvy man that he is! tell me again what sense it would make for him to fight NOG before FEDOR when FEDOR already beat him twice? you guys are just angry little girls because he stood up to dana! Do u think if randy beats FEDOR that people will be saying, "well, he might have beat FEDOR but he never beat NOG?" nope! because that would be irrelevant since FEDOR pounded NOG twice already! common sense guys, common sense! BTW, randy dominated GG and Sylvia …lets see nog……ummm he SHOULD have lost to herring and tim sylvia DOMINATED him up until the submission, so 44 year old randy, let me repeat that again, 44 year old randy aint so bad is he????

and spitforce, ur comment about him needing to beat jardine etc…ur an idiot with a comment like that. is there not a wwe site or somethin u can blog to instead of MMA??

by blah on Apr 15, 2008 1:18 AM EDT reply actions

Well said, my thoughts exactly.

by Ade on Apr 15, 2008 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Before I type this I am going to state that I am a big Randy Couture fan…But
There is no “if” Randy beats Fedor..because fact is Randy would lose to Fedor and Nog..
And.
It does “make sense” for Randy to fight Nog because the fans want to see him fight Nog, so that alone has it as a fight thats “makes sense”!!

by Stagger-Lee on Apr 15, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions

Im sorry but Nog beat Herring and Sylvia fair and they couldnt finish him because he knew what was happening. They could capitalise on an opening but Nog could, hes been doing it his whole career and is a warrior for that so the Sylvia and Herring should have beat him excuse is just BS. Who has Randy beaten at HW that is really worth mentioning? Sylvia probably the only one. This is the same guy thats lost to Barnett, who by the way Nog beat, hes lost to Ricco Rodriguez for Gods sake so why the hell does he even belong in the same arena as Fedor or Nog. Fedor will kill him, Nog is also a whole lot better. Use your common sense. Randy only wants to fight Fedor because he wants the cash and knows he will make big money with this fight outside the UFC. Its not about his legacy but his interest in money.

by JJ on Apr 15, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Fedor will probably lose to Tim and then I want to see where Randy goes from there. One option, NOG.

by JJ on Apr 15, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions

This fight doesn’t make sense to Nogueira because Nogueira has beaten guys that have beaten Couture (sarcasm)

Randy is great, I’d put Randy in the same level as the creator of GnP Mark Coleman. Bur Fedor and Big Nog, those two are legendary.

by bjj on Apr 27, 2008 2:44 AM EDT reply actions

Fedor beat Nog twice, so? Does Randy think that the Fedor´s story will happen also with him? No way… Nog is now a more experienced fighter and better than Randy, which makes us tink: Whom you rather lose to? To a Number 1 or to a number 2? Losing to a n.1 is less difficult to accept the loss than to a loss to n.2. Randy is more worried to make history at this stage of his career, and if this means to fight Fedor, we will see that Randy 43 years old will show off as a grandpa. A fight with ´´the last emperor`` or with ´´Minotauro`` will have the same outcome, and americans will see that the hall of fame with a poor record of 16-8 (after the fight with Fedor or Nogueira probabily will be 16-9)is all that only in USA. I put Randy in the same level as Coleman, Difference is that Coleman was in pride were he wasn´t so lucky and Randy in UFC is the top

by Cláudio on Apr 28, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions