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UFC using tourist revenue to entice New York legislators

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When in doubt, buy 'em out.

UFC President Dana White has been lobbying to get the sport of mixed martial arts (MMA) sanctioned in the state of New York -- as early as the end of 2008.

And why not?

Imagine BJ Penn vs. Georges St. Pierre 2 at Madison Square Garden (MSG).

A bill for sanctioning is already on the State Assembly's tourism, arts and sports education development committee's agenda and has been sponsored by Assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-Scarsdale).

But the UFC isn't being greedy. According to a report in the Times Herald-Record, locations like Albany, Buffalo, Syracuse and Utica are being discussed. MSG and New York City itself may not need the immediate business, but what about smaller, upstate markets that depend on (or could desperately use) tourist revenue?

Money talks ... and the UFC now has the numbers to back it up.

From the RecordOnline.com:

"Our events have brought millions of dollars in tax and tourist revenue to nearly every city we have held an event in," said UFC president Dana White. "Once New York joins New Jersey, Pennsylvania and 30 other states in regulating mixed martial arts, we will be thrilled to offer a UFC event this year to an upstate city and replicate its success all over the state."

The article also references the company's success from its recent event in Ohio, that brought a live gate of over $2 million and external revenue upwards of $11 million.

Not bad for a city budget that may need a way to wipe out some of its internal deficits. Financial pressure is also a good way to get staunch legislators to (begrudgingly) change their public tune.

"I'll support it, but it's not the high mark of our societal evolution," said Assemblyman Tom Kirwan, R-Newburgh. "It's brutal, but it's not as brutal as boxing. Two consenting adults are going in there to fight."

No question the UFC is shooting for an upstate location as a way of sneaking in the back door. Dana may have his eyes on the prize of MSG, but I'm sure he wouldn't mind holding a few pay-per-views upstate as a way to eventually get there.

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First NY PPV Matt Serra defending (and destroying ) Matt Hughes

by kevin on Apr 10, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody want to talk politics (fox news is bad)? or should we talk MMA?

by Jrandolph on Apr 10, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hurry up and legalize mma in Philadelphia already!

by john on Apr 10, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GSP vs Penn 2 at MSG would be totally crazy even though GSP would wipe the floor with him.

by UFC 85!!!!!!!!! on Apr 10, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow this would be very cool. Dana is spot on, legalize it!!! Nog vs Couture at MSG!! I think Couture aint fighting anymore apart from Fedor because he fears he might lose to Nog.

by UFC 85!!!! on Apr 10, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TRUE!!!!

Penn will destroy GSP next time

by FedorIsAFakor on Apr 10, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penn wins in rematch and rubber match, and Randy was gone before Nog got the belt, its not like Randy can tell the future and new Nog would beat Tim and he was scared of that. He would fight Nog, why not, decent sales and money, he just doesnt like Dana, so what f*ck ’em, BJ BJ BJ!!! GSP wont have a chance! “Gonna be too busy defending himself to try and mount an offense.”

by ( (Adam G) ) on Apr 10, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To All you Dana Haters out there, where is Monty and Gary Shaw on this? Don’t see them doing anything to get sanctioned anywhere, but they will grab the ufc and dana’s coattails and ride his work into making money.

by FedorIsAFakor on Apr 10, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana is a douchebag! you think he’s foing this for MMA… I think not he’s doing this for the ufc and himself!

by matthew on Apr 10, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HES DOING IT THOUGH- WHO ELSE DOES ANYTHING?

Monte- Nope
Gary- Nope
Mark- Nope

Dana and the UFC do get stuff done and they deserve the money they make by being doers not coattail grabbers you should think before you talk

by FedorIsAFakor on Apr 10, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed, not a big Dana fan, but no one can dismiss what he’s done for the sport as a whole

by kevin on Apr 10, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He works for UFC… obviously he is doing it for the UFC! He’s certainly not doing it for EliteXC. But, such a sanction will benefit all MMA, not just UFC

by Alex P on Apr 10, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea man, your right, dana must hate MMA, wants to ruin the sport huh, idiot! If you ran a business you would be out for money otherwise why would you be in business, just to promote the sport, thats automatic, it goes hand and hand with the money making so what should he do, say “nah, i wanna do the rest of the UFC’s for free on someones front lawn and we’ll pay the fighters peanuts!”

by ( (Adam G) ) on Apr 10, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course he’s doing it for himself/UFC. He doesn’t run a philanthropic/non-profit organization. He’s in business to make money. But what he’s doing is good for the sport as a whole. How can possibly say anything against that? As the other commentaters have asked, which other organization is doing anything at all to expand the sport? NOBODY. They will let Dana do the work, bitch about him, and then ride his coattails to more cash.

by chefdaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I’ll support it, but it’s not the high mark of our societal evolution,” said Assemblyman Tom Kirwan, R-Newburgh. “It’s brutal, but it’s not as brutal as boxing. Two consenting adults are going in there to fight.”

Newburgh is one of, if not the most brutal cities in America, it’s the murder capital of New York state, i think that Mr. Kirwan should remove the brutality in his city before commenting on legit prizefighting.

by DAve on Apr 10, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I also like the way he phrased that. “..not as brutal as boxing. Two consenting adults are going in there to fight.” He makes it sounds like boxers forced into the ring to fight. Funny wording.

by PJJ on Apr 10, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DA MONKEY: I believe this is what you have been looking for:

This Fedor interview will tell you everything you want to know about his brother Aleksander and what his tatoos mean….ENJOY:

You mentioned that Aleksander Emelianenko, is the world Sambo champion, and that he is far more talented than you are. Do you exaggerate?

Fedor: Not at all. I’m not a genius athlete, like many people think. My brother has a phenomenal talent. But he lacks in work ethic. That’s why I’m higher in the ratings. My brother keeps going in and out of the top 10.

Do you two spar?

Fedor: No. We live in different cities. I live in Stary Oskol, and travel all over the world. Brother settled down in Petersburg. We rarely see each other.

They say Aleksander was even in prison?

Fedor: It’s true. They gave him five years, but released him before that. Three and a half years.

He was charged with a robbery?

Fedor: There were many episodes. Don’t want to bring up the past.

Is it an accomplishment to lose 3 years and be able to return to the ring?

Fedor: No. In his case it’s far from an accomplishment. Even though 3 and a half years really held back his growth as an athlete. And in the social life Aleksander became different. Prison really made its imprint. His outlook on life has changed, and it seems, not in a good way.

You and him are totally different?

Fedor: Yes. I’m sure those things could not have happened to me. During the time when Aleksander was looking for adventures on his rear end, I killed myself training. I had a goal – to reach something in sport.

If Fedor Emelianenko is very pleasant to speak to, his brother has a scary image. You can’t just come up to him. And even Fedor, who’s related to the man calls him only “Aleksander” In Russian Aleksander is an official name, and you usually wouldn’t call your brother like that. Sasha, or some other nickname is usually used to call someone close.

One time, Emelianenko junior shed the light on his tattoos in an interview, most of which he got as a reminder of places not so far away.

Fedor: Every tattoo has a place – he said – On my right arm I have a Church with 5 bells. Each bell is for a year of incarceration. Stars on the shoulders mean that the man lives according to his own principles. Stars on the knees say “I will never kneel”. Another tattoo, pirate, stands for article 167 of criminal law – robbery. I have many more tattoos on my body: Writing in Latin reads “Luck looks upon the Brave”, and in German “God with us”. Below the elbow – a head, half cat half human skull. It means: A man is a wolf to another man. This phrase is one of my principles. A web on the shoulder. God’s mother on my back, aphorisms on my feet.

by john on Apr 10, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks John. I’m sure Da Monkey will appreciate

by ViolentMike on Apr 10, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem Man, always happy to help out a fellow, unbiased FAN!

by john on Apr 10, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GSP vs Penn 2 would be wicked crazy at the MSG. Penn would destroy GSP.(if Serra doesn’t do it first)I’d like to see a Penn vs Serra 2.

by JiujitsuFreak on Apr 10, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To add to that…MSG would be a huge step in MMA. I hope to see a UFC event there by the end of the year.

by JiujitsuFreak on Apr 10, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see this happening at MSG this year. However, a Super Bowl weekend fight next year would be huge at MSG.

by Jeff on Apr 10, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I support the legalization of MMA and marijuana.

by bostonmmajunkie on Apr 10, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All that agree, sign here:

VIOLENTMIKE

by ViolentMike on Apr 10, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell YEAH!!!!!!

I think I am going to take some shrooms and go watch the YAMMA tomorrow night….Whoooo HoOOO!!!!

by john on Apr 10, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AGREED!

by kitsunex on Apr 10, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m with that!

by kama kaze on Apr 10, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Boston guy, can you shed some light for me? I was wondering why they haven’t tried to put on a show in Boston. Look at Florian/Lauzon. They even billed it as the Battle for Boston. They have obviously both fought in Mass. and there must be a sanctioning committee. That would be awesome to see an event in the Garden. Any idea what might be holding that up in your local news?

(For that matter, I also wondered why when they went to NJ they didn’t go to Atlantic City and in a casino there ala Vegas. Or did it more often.)

by PJJ on Apr 10, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as I know, I have read several interviews of Dana White saying that he is trying to get Boston to host a UFC PPV event at the Garden. As a matter of fact, if I remember correctly, he even said that he is confident that he can get it done this year.

I really dont know what the deal is but I know of a lot of small local shows held (maybe without a proper permits) that go on that fighers even at my gym participate it. There are a lot more in New Jersey.

by bostonmmajunkie on Apr 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last I heard, Boston was going to hold a UFC event in the near future….Possibly before 2009

by john on Apr 11, 2008 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how you like Tom Kirwan’s quote? – what a lowlife, no backbone having, scumbag politician. “i’ll support it (for the money) but it’s brutal”. I can’t stand people who don’t stick by their convictions.

by kama kaze on Apr 10, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT THE FUUUCCCKKK? Why is Dana not trying to get the UFC to come to Atlanta?? Its only one of the biggest and most well known citys in The United States. It would definately be a sellout!!

by STUNNALATOR on Apr 10, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because Georgia’s Legislature is retarded when it comes to its athletic commission rules. unless they change their stance on a lot of stuff, they are going to be losing a lot of revenue.

by kitsunex on Apr 10, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NEW YOORRRKK – can’t wait for this.. we should def have an UFC or WEC event on LONG ISLAND at the jones beach theatre which is outside. Thats HOT! TTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSsssssssss

by LongIslandguy on Apr 10, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GSP would not get beaten by Penn. GSP is the future and the now, Penn is already past it.

by UFC 85!!!! on Apr 10, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL, BJ is the #2 p4p guy in the world, and is the only guy who would actually go up (and be a contender) not only 1 but 2 or 3 weight classes, you’re crazy to think a motivated BJ wouldn’t destroy GSP any day of the week

by kevin on Apr 10, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, that picture makes the area around the garden look really nice. It’s an expensive neighborhood but i’ve worked around there and it just is not that pretty.

by Fidel Cashflow on Apr 10, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its pretty pretty though

by LongIslandguy on Apr 10, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope gsp beats serra & penn beats sherk. gsp vs. bj would be a frickin good fight to see again. i can see bj holding 2 titles simotaneously.

by kAiNOA PilAGO on Apr 10, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All i have to say is please please please bring a UFC to Syracuse…. This city needs a revenue boost and I need a short drive to an event… Its a Win Win for everyone (by everyone I mean ME MYSELF and I)

by BigDaddyDahl on Apr 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MSG? Well considering that I live 10 blocks from the Garden this would be very nice. It would beat going to the MGM in Vegas.

by pete on Apr 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how do you say “i wine alot” in british?? oh yea.. “aye em eh pussy!”

but at least he has all his teeth

by Javster on Apr 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its good for all MMA if they can get NY opened up. Not a lot of the other Orgs are going to be able to sell out MSG. Eveyone will benefit from this but mostly the fans.

by NorthStar on Apr 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The UFC could sell out MSG next year. THey would make a stellar card, that would include tons of locals from the NY/NJ Region. It wouldnt be like the card thay make for the Newark show. Maybe Serra, Sell(undercard), Almeida, Edgar, and match them up with big names and the Garden would be rocking. Plus they would do so much advertising and bring tons of attention to the casual MMA fans. Big billboards in Times Square and down the WestSide Highway. So much money, Dana would bathe his bald self in it.

by PitBullNY on Apr 10, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i cant wait for ufc to come to new york my neck of the woods im so pumped but it better not be a bullshit card like that jersey card

by dcsoldier187 on Apr 11, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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