SI.com: Green jackets & frozen feet tougher than MMA
UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson "The Spider" Silva and former Pride FC Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko make the 25 Toughest Athletes list over at SI.com. Emelianenko came in at #8 -- behind Allen Iverson but ahead of Floyd Mayweather.
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are you kidding?! people question if golf is actually a sport or just people knocking balls in holes because they have nothing better to do. lol yeah TW is tough because he golfed sick, sometimes fighters fight sick…i know! we should put gabe reudiger at number 2 he deserves it completely. just like tiger. GOLF SUCKS
by tapps on Jun 9, 2008 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am just glad Roy Jones is not on there. Please Silva do not fight this overrated hack. Waste of time for you. If you are going to fight anyone outside of the UFC, fight Cung Le.
by tuf75 on Apr 3, 2008 2:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cung Le good joke anderson would finish him in under a minute
Le doesnt have KO power
if shamrock can stand for 3 rounds with him silva would kill him
silva would put up more of a fight in a golf game against TW than cung Le would in an MMA fight with AS
by nate diaz on Apr 3, 2008 3:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
" Defining moment: After a left hook tore a gash above his eye, the bloody Darth Fedor still needed only one round to beat Matt Lindland, the 2000 Olympic Greco-Roman wrestling silver medalist, in the much-hyped “Clash of the Nations” last year in St. Petersburg, Russia."
yes that is fedors defining moment :rolleyes:
by nate diaz on Apr 3, 2008 3:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure, let’s see Silva waste Cung Le! That would be awesome. Throw Shamrock in there too.
Naturally, as a result of this rating Dana should offer Tiger an official invitation to fight Silva, to really see who’s really the toughest.
by dave on Apr 3, 2008 3:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thus finally solving what is better, the UFC or the PGA. The UFC needs an enemy now that Pride is no more.
by dave on Apr 3, 2008 3:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They need to get rid of the word ‘tough’ in sports can’t compare tiger to silva in toughness. MMA fighters are the toughest athletes. maybe use the word, ‘determined’ or something.
by THORAZINE on Apr 3, 2008 4:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about “Intense focus”
With Tiger they’re obviously referring to Mental Toughness. I’m pretty sure I’m tougher than tiger in the physical sense. Come to think of it, wrestling Tiger would be sort of fun.
by dave on Apr 3, 2008 5:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHO ELSE THINKS SILVA ISN’T GETTING PAID ENOUGH???
The guy has absoloutely destroyed all of the opponents put in front of him. I understand with fighters contracts they usually are paid a set amount for a fixed number of matches but damn!!! Anderson Silva has shot to stardom by
destroying everyone he has been put up against
saving PPV’s from being a snoozefest
Being the most convincing finisher in MMA today (maybe apart from BJ Penn)
Single handedly wiping out the middleweight division (apart
from Okami… but probaly soon)
Being the most active champion that the MMA currently has
Sometimes he makes big purses but that is only by winning his matches plus the bonuses (sometimes winning more than one bonus in the night which says even more about how impressive he is). For example he only got paid $70,000 to show and the same to win at the last PPV.
So can someone explain to me if it is said that this org looks after their fighters why contracts don’t allow flexibility of pay with performance? And why the most dominant, exciting and dynamic champ today is getting paid $70K to show and win compared to
Henderson = $100,000
Sylvia = $100,000
Vera = $100,000
Rampage = $225,000
I’m not saying the guys above don’t deserve what they get just that pay parity means Anderson should be on a lot more. And for those of you who say marketability, maybe you could of said that 3 fights ago but now everyone knows
Anderson Silva = butts in seats and PPV’s bought
by Holdin_Ropes on Apr 3, 2008 5:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way I do understand that he is getting paid a lot but he is worth so much more, imagine what EliteXC would pay him to make the swap.
Also I’m not sure but he [Anderson] probaly signned a 6 fight contract he’s had his 6 matches but I’m sure there is a clause that if your contract terminates while you are champion another fight is automatically added, this way your contract will only expire if you loose (I believe Fedor wasn’t too happy about this clause) does this mean he’ll fight for the same amount till he looses?
by Holdin_Ropes on Apr 3, 2008 5:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cung le hasn’t done shit to deserve silva yet or any co-promotion fight…Silva does need to be paid more as he actually has finished every fight in the UFC but if he aint complaining (yet lol) neither should we…
by XxXFactor on Apr 3, 2008 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather get beat up by Anderson Silva twice than do 4200 miles on a dogsled.
by DirtyML on Apr 3, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cung le hasn’t done shit to deserve silva yet or any co-promotion fight…Silva does need to be paid more as he actually has finished every fight in the UFC but if he aint complaining (yet lol) neither should we…
You have a point there lol
by Holdin_Ropes on Apr 3, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Never saw Tiger Woods as being tough… but okay. Not sure how golf has anything to do with tough. Now if Happy Gilmore was a true story… then that is pretty accurate.
by grembone on Apr 3, 2008 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Never saw Tiger Woods as being tough… but okay. Not sure how golf has anything to do with tough. Now if Happy Gilmore was a true story… then that is pretty accurate.
Now, MMA is tough 2 – 3 times out of the year as that is pretty much how often the division champs are fighting, but so is professional golf. I would even say professional Tennis is tougher than MMA. Your out there with a group of up to 125 golfers who on any given day could win any tournament and Tiger does it on almost every start. Those of you who play know how rediculously amazing that is. Mentally, Golf is tougher than any sport out there. This coming from the javster who HATES watching golf, but I play often, so i know the game. Also, Tiger benches over 300 lbs. give him props!
by Javster on Apr 3, 2008 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now, MMA is tough 2 – 3 times out of the year as that is pretty much how often the division champs are fighting, but so is professional golf. I would even say professional Tennis is tougher than MMA. Your out there with a group of up to 125 golfers who on any given day could win any tournament and Tiger does it on almost every start. Those of you who play know how rediculously amazing that is. Mentally, Golf is tougher than any sport out there. This coming from the javster who HATES watching golf, but I play often, so i know the game. Also, Tiger benches over 300 lbs. give him props!
2 or 3 times a year??? That seems pretty tough to me, but if you also consider the months they spend training for the fight are harder and more agonizing than the fight itself, then its definately tougher than golf to be an MMA champion, physically and mentally…no disrespect to Tiger though….also its kinda sad if I disagree with Fedor being ahead of Mayweather…I lover Fedor and hate Mayweather, but even Floyd has had a tougher schedule as of late than Fedor has.
by mma dude on Apr 3, 2008 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cancer survivor I could see… but Tiger Woods? GET REAL!! Anderson Silva playing 5 consecutive rounds of golf or Tiger in the cage for 5..no 4…no 1 minute. See who’s tougher. What a ridiculous article.
by Freddy on Apr 3, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Silva would destroy Cung Le. My point was if you are going to do any cross over fight- Roy Jones shouldnt be it. It is a pointless circus.
by tuf75 on Apr 3, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHO ELSE THINKS SILVA ISN’T GETTING PAID ENOUGH???
The guy has absoloutely destroyed all of the opponents put in front of him. I understand with fighters contracts they usually are paid a set amount for a fixed number of matches but damn!!! Anderson Silva has shot to stardom by
destroying everyone he has been put up against
saving PPV’s from being a snoozefest
Being the most convincing finisher in MMA today (maybe apart from BJ Penn)
Single handedly wiping out the middleweight division (apart
from Okami… but probaly soon)
Being the most active champion that the MMA currently has
Sometimes he makes big purses but that is only by winning his matches plus the bonuses (sometimes winning more than one bonus in the night which says even more about how impressive he is). For example he only got paid $70,000 to show and the same to win at the last PPV.
So can someone explain to me if it is said that this org looks after their fighters why contracts don’t allow flexibility of pay with performance? And why the most dominant, exciting and dynamic champ today is getting paid $70K to show and win compared to
Henderson = $100,000
Sylvia = $100,000
Vera = $100,000
Rampage = $225,000
I’m not saying the guys above don’t deserve what they get just that pay parity means Anderson should be on a lot more. And for those of you who say marketability, maybe you could of said that 3 fights ago but now everyone knows
Anderson Silva = butts in seats and PPV’s bought
That amount is just his base pay. It does not include KO bonuses or PPV bonuses, which I’m sure Dana is handing him in bunches. Neither I nor anyone else outside Silva’s camp and the UFC executive office knows exactly how much Silva takes home after a fight, but I would wager his total compensation is as high as anyone’s in the UFC.
by PW on Apr 3, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As high as anyone except maybe for Chuck, I should say.
by PW on Apr 3, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson should have been #1.
he should forget about trying to fight R.J jr, stick to MMA.
Le wouldnt have a chance against Anderson. Silva can do everything that Cung can do, but better.
i agree with XxXFactor if he aint complaining neither should we.
if hes not complaining he must be getting enough.
" Defining moment: After a left hook tore a gash above his eye, the bloody Darth Fedor still needed only one round to beat Matt Lindland, the 2000 Olympic Greco-Roman wrestling silver medalist, in the much-hyped “Clash of the Nations” last year in St. Petersburg, Russia."
yes that is fedors defining moment :rolleyes:
they only put 2 MMA fighters on this list & fedor is the 2nd.
IMO hes not even the 2nd best Hwt in MMA. he may have got the dec. against BigNog , but IMO BigNog is tougher. he survived everything that fedor threw at him.his opponents just cant finish him. i expect him to keep his belt for a while. IMO the only way BigNog can lose the belt is by dec. & the 1st 2 fighters that come to mind are fedor & randy. but thats just because that judges seem to favor wrestling over BJJ. by that i mean take downs,the judges always seem to use take downs as tie breaker in a close round.which is total B.S .just because a guy gets 1 or 2 more take downs shouldnt mean he won the round.
the 10 point must system has gotta go.if not then there should be more 10-10 or 9-9 rounds.theres nothing worse than seeing a guy win because he got a couple of TDs
by the levi on Apr 3, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey remember Fedor has never lost! You cannot tell me that he is not the best HW in the world. Randy would be dominated by Fedor. Fedor has been hit hard, dropped on his head, but he still manages to beat people up. Everybody loves a HW fighter. Silva fights guys that are the same weight. Fedor fights guys that are usually a lot heavier than himself. I think Anderson Silva is a hell of a fighter, but Fedor is THE BEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER IN THE WORLD!
by A.J. on Apr 15, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cancer survivor I could see… but Tiger Woods? GET REAL!! Anderson Silva playing 5 consecutive rounds of golf or Tiger in the cage for 5..no 4…no 1 minute. See who’s tougher. What a ridiculous article.
I knew a caveman like you would pop up sooner or later. Your definition of “tough” is very narrow. Tiger has the most mental toughness out of any athlete in the world. Tiger has lost, but the dude NEVER chokes. Do you know how tough mentally you have to be to do that? How many people can do that in ANY line of work? Staying with athletes, look how many of them collapse when one little thing doesn’t go their way. Tiger gets pissed off, but he doesn’t let one bad shot get into his head. The guy has ice water running in his veins.
by Pat on Apr 3, 2008 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew a caveman like you would pop up sooner or later. Your definition of “tough” is very narrow. Tiger has the most mental toughness out of any athlete in the world. Tiger has lost, but the dude NEVER chokes. Do you know how tough mentally you have to be to do that? How many people can do that in ANY line of work? Staying with athletes, look how many of them collapse when one little thing doesn’t go their way. Tiger gets pissed off, but he doesn’t let one bad shot get into his head. The guy has ice water running in his veins.
I completely agree. Anderson Silva is a tough fighter, and his training is tough, but Tiger has to compete nearly 20 times a year. That is mental overload with focus as well as knowing that everyone, EVERY WEEK, is looking to just beat him. Some golfers consider just beating him as good as a championship. No one says that about ANY mma fighter(save crocop of 2005). As well, I would say what Roger Federer has recently done in tennis is tougher than what Anderson Silva is doing.
by Javster on Apr 3, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
train hard so the fight is easy.
training for 2-4 months for a fight has got to be pretty tough thing to do. getting up everyday to train in all aspects of MMA requires mental toughness. fighters have to practice grappling and striking then work on strenth and cardio. training for 300 days a year seems alot tougher than playing in 20 golf tournaments. i not trying to say that tiger has no toughness , i just saying that,Anderson doesnt get enough credit because hes only fought 6 times in the UFC. there was a lot of traing going on i between fights.
so IMO there should have been more a couple of more MMA fighters on this list.
and no NHL goalies WTF.that is a tough position to play. the last line of defense.especially if your like Roberto Luongo playing on a bad team like the Canucks.oops getting off topic.
A.SILVA #1
by the levi on Apr 3, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK fella’s, go and train. Train for a 5k, 10K race or a marathon. Train for a Karate competition. Train to get better at golf or a bowling competition, it’s hard. Getting up every day to push yourself mentally and physically. Tiger’s mental toughness is not a question, but I think that the #1 MMA fighter in the world has to have an incredible amount of mental toughness as well. Look at all the quiters and criers on TUF; it’s not easy.
BTW, the cancer survivor who’s won the iditarod is the toughest SOB out there. Not only did he beat cancer, he’s beat the iditarod….TWICE!! That is tough.
by Freddy on Apr 3, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, thanks for the “Caveman” comment, I enjoy their commercials. And, I also have a uni-brow, so it works well.
by Freddy on Apr 3, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That Lance Mackey is tough as hell and should be on the top of this list! It takes both great mental and physical toughness to accomplish what he did. Tiger is tough mentally but I dont know what else is tough about winning PGA’s? I’d like to see what toughness scale they are measuring with. Maybe Tiger has some kind of major endorsement deal with SI :)
by Coronado on Apr 3, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, thanks for the “Caveman” comment, I enjoy their commercials. And, I also have a uni-brow, so it works well.
HAHA. At least you took it well.
by Pat on Apr 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now, MMA is tough 2 – 3 times out of the year as that is pretty much how often the division champs are fighting, but so is professional golf. I would even say professional Tennis is tougher than MMA. Your out there with a group of up to 125 golfers who on any given day could win any tournament and Tiger does it on almost every start. Those of you who play know how rediculously amazing that is. Mentally, Golf is tougher than any sport out there. This coming from the javster who HATES watching golf, but I play often, so i know the game. Also, Tiger benches over 300 lbs. give him props!
Javster… your kidding right? Tiger Benches over 300lbs. Well if you not…Sorry, but you think walking into a cage with the roar of the crowd behind you isn’t a pressure cooker. I bet if you do that once in your life and it could compare to 3 years of golf tournaments. The training regiment alone has it’s validation for toughness. People that are training for events are always having to nurse injuries from training and most of the time suck ‘em up and still fight. How many interviews do we see where guys are fighting with injuries hoping to make a paycheck. When was the last time you had to really sweat it out in a golf game? C’mon.
Maybe golf probably has degree of toughness but it is not on the same level. I guess we should define toughness.
by grembone on Apr 3, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there really an argument as to which is tougher, MMA or Golf!!???!! MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY……..So much of MMA is mental, thats why they call it a human chess match…..Your never going to have to go to the hospital after a Golf Tournament. (Unless you got heat stroke, or were hit by a ball.) I don’t know what can be more mentally tough than fighters trying to get in each others heads…. Just ask Rich Franklin who wouldnt take a rematch if it were handed to him…….This is a funny conversation though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Vizai on Apr 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That Lance Mackey is tough as hell and should be on the top of this list! It takes both great mental and physical toughness to accomplish what he did. Tiger is tough mentally but I dont know what else is tough about winning PGA’s? I’d like to see what toughness scale they are measuring with. Maybe Tiger has some kind of major endorsement deal with SI :)
Are you kidding? Not tough to win golf tournaments? No doubt its not as physically tough as mma i mean your not gonna come out bloodied up, but if you looked at how much time Tiger puts into training for golf tournaments and how much mental toughness it takes to be able to perform at a consistent level like Tiger does you would understand why he is ranked number 1. There has never been an athlete in any of our lifetimes who has been more dominant at there sport or had more mental toughness than him. If you haven’t played golf competitively before you probably wouldn’t understand but it is definately a mental battle and takes a lot of mental toughness to stay consistant at.
by GSP4Prez on Apr 3, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How did a golfer make #1? lol They’re more accurate than tough.
by Toms Bombs on Apr 3, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NEWS FLASH!!! At the Sac Kings vs Clippers game at Arco Arena, Sac, CA, its Olympics Night. Kurt Angle was present and was interviewed. He mentioned that he was fighting against Couture sometime in the fall, and was not allowed yet to mention which promotion!!!!!!!!!!!
by DirtbagHtr on Apr 4, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree. Anderson Silva is a tough fighter, and his training is tough, but Tiger has to compete nearly 20 times a year. That is mental overload with focus as well as knowing that everyone, EVERY WEEK, is looking to just beat him. Some golfers consider just beating him as good as a championship. No one says that about ANY mma fighter(save crocop of 2005). As well, I would say what Roger Federer has recently done in tennis is tougher than what Anderson Silva is doing.
Actually, what Roger Feder has done the last 3 years is waaaaaaaaaaay better the ANY athlete out there hands down, IF we are condering toughness the way you guys are talking about it.
by cmon_chokehim on Apr 4, 2008 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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