Ultimate Fight Night 13 recap for Florian vs. Lauzon
It was a great night of mixed martial arts action for everyone who tuned into UFC Ultimate Fight Night 13 this evening from the Broomfield Event Center in Broomfield, Colo., unless your name is Steve Mazzagatti.
"Mazz" was involved in two "controversial" stoppages on the main card, which were disputed heavily by the fighters on the losing end of those calls, Karo Parisyan and Houston Alexander.
Let's start first with the main event of the evening between lightweights Kenny Florian and Joe Lauzon. As expected, both fighters set a frenetic pace from the outset, going back and forth with switches and takedowns.
Florian unleashed some vicious elbows while on his back, which were deemed dangerous by the referee and warned that a point would be deducted if he did it again. From this point on it seemed Florian began to take over -- despite some nice submission attempts from Lauzon to twist Florian's ankle off.
When the second round began Florian mounted Lauzon numerous times and he could not escape. Lauzon seemed to block most of the strikes, but he could not buck Florian and eventually the referee had seen enough.
It was a great effort by both fighters and it could have possibly lasted a but longer if it wasn't for the thin Colorado air -- it seemed to take its toll on Lauzon.
Even in a losing effort Lauzon showed he can compete against the cream of the division. Meanwhile, Florian cemented his status as the man to beat to get the next title shot at 155 pounds.
Parisyan started off his bout with Thiago Alves strong, taking the Brazilian to the mat with a textbook takedown after securing the body lock. He worked from the top position for a bit until Alves eventually worked his way to the feet.
Alves looked sluggish throughout the first stanza and did not uncork one of his trademark kicks until the two minute mark. Perhaps he was just feeling out the Armenian, but until he drilled Parisyan with a knee to the jaw from the clinch in the opening minutes of round two, he didn't look comfortable at all.
But that's all it took ... Alves followed Parisyan to the canvas and threw a flurry of combinations that Mazzagatti determined were too much.
"The Heat" was irate from the moment of the stoppage and did not seem punch drunk at all. However, it was clear that he was hurt and apparently did not do enough to demonstrate that he was all good.
This is a massive blow to Parisyan's immediate title fight chances and a massive boon to Alves.' Barring an injury to either Georges St. Pierre or Matt Serra in two weeks, it looks like the top welterweight contender picture has been cleared up thanks to one Alves knee.
Get ready, Jon Fitch.
Matt Hamill weathered the Jeet Kun Do blitzkrieg of Tim Boetsch to finish "The Barbarian" in the second round of their 205-pound scrap. Boetsch looked winded just minutes into the fight and could not muster up the energy to intelligently defend the ground and pound of Hamill.
Hamill used his "gorilla strength" and a "rape choke" to overwhelm Boetsch in the end, showing a good chin and a more well rounded skill set in doing so.
It should be real interesting to see where both these guys end up next.
And what's there to say about Nate Diaz?
This kid (he's just 22-years-old) just oozes talent and guts. Kurt Pellegrino beat the hell out of him for the entire first round, opening up a bad gash over his eye and lumping his face up nice.
It looked to be like round two was going to be more of the same until Diaz wrapped his long limbs around the neck of "Batman" coming off a slam, cinched in the triangle, sat back, flipped off the overhead cameras and celebrated before getting the fight-ending tap.
His brother, Nick, has taught him ... well?
Diaz has cemented his status as a very dangerous player in the very crowded lightweight division.
To start off the evening, big surprise, James Irvin was involved in another quasi-controversial bout, stopping Alexander in record time en route to a first round technical knockout win.
"The Sandman" dropped the Nebraskan with a Superman punch just moments into the 205-pound tilt. He followed it up with about three unanswered strikes, which forced the referee to step in and call a hault to the action.
Alexander did look like he was out momentarily and defenseless, but he claimed during the post-fight interview that he was conscious throughout the exchange and the decision to stop the fight was "crap."
Regardless, it's over and Irvin has notched a nice win, ensuring that his immediate future with the organization is safe after a tumultuous fight season in 2007. As for Alexander, it's anyone's guess where he goes from here after back-to-back technical knockout losses.
He's a big fan favorite because of his raw ability and devastating punching power. However, one more loss could mean that fans will have to enjoy watching him knock dudes out — or get knocked out — elsewhere outside the Octagon.
In the swing bout of the evening, Gray Maynard outboxed and outwrestled Frank Edgar to keep his undefeated record intact and to become the first man to find an answer for "The Answer."
Maynard came in with a tight game and came away with a huge win over a very highly ranked fighter in the 155-pound class. This was a huge win for The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 5 alum and should mean that he meets up with some of the top competitors in the division.
A showdown with TUF 5 winner, Diaz, would be a fantastic match up — Diaz defeated "The Bully" while the two were on the show.
As for Edgar, he'll more than likely return after his honeymoon (in 10 days) and be in search of redemption. Tough loss for Edgar but he'll come ba ck strong without question.
That's it for an action-packed night of mixed martial arts. The fans in attendance -- like those of us at home -- should be pleased. Out of 12 fights only two went to decision.
Great stuff.
For UFC Fight Night 13 quick results and LIVE blow-by-blow commentary of the main card click here.
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And what’s there to say about Nick Diaz?
This kid (he’s just 22-years-old) just oozes talent and guts. Kurt Pellegrino beat the hell out of him for the entire first round, opening up a bad gash over his eye and lumping his face up nice.
It’s Nate mania
by DAvlat on Apr 2, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steve Mazzagatti Needs to be fired. Karo only took the knee and that was it. All the other punches hit his arms. WTF?
He also stopped the Houston Vs. Irvin Fight too fast. Mazzagatti sucks! I lost the bet so congrats john. Was it just me or did Karo have some love handles?
For the record I hate Fedor and the Eagle so that was the last time you will hear me say that.
by jimmy_dean on Apr 2, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo could have his arm broken and his head severed from his body and think it was an early stoppage…everyone thinks the stoppage was early after they regain consciousness.
by JB on Apr 2, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don’t you mean nate diaz?
looks like it says nate to me…either way dudes a badass
by Jizzo on Apr 2, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and i thought herb dean was the cum-too-fast ref.
by ajadoniz on Apr 3, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kenny won and that’s all that really matters to me.
I got 6 out of the 12 fights right but Florian was the most and maybe the only important won to me really.
I didn’t do to good in my picks 50%.
HOW ABOUT THIAGO ALVES WOW well I guess Karo doesn’t have to worry about when he’s getting a title shot anymore.
I have to say St Pierre and Alves could be very interesting.
Diaz is something else that’s for sure, took a beating and won pretty easily in the 2nd, good show.
Anthoney Johnson WOW, what a a** kicking.
Irvin 8 seconds haha oh geez Houston what to think about this guy.
Maynard and Hamil good performances, good wins.
by Jesse_Canadian_MMA on Apr 3, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo must have been pissed if you look at it he was not all out!!!!!!!!!!
by skoler12 on Apr 3, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going crazy over the stoppages. Alexander/Irvin was the right call and as far as Parisyan, well it was borderline but when your legs buckle like his did and you’re mounted it’s hard to get on a ref who may be thinking “better safe than sorry”.
by Jesse Holland on Apr 3, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alexander i could understand the stop, his arms were down and he looked like dead weight. but karo should have been given a few more seconds. when you get “rocked” sometimes its easy to come back, especially when you’re still defending yourself like he was.
sad to see lauzon lose, and to have to sit through another dumb speech by periodflo. nate diaz is kind of inspiring to me, im 23 and its awesome to see someone really young and talented kick some ass. nick and nate need to come back to toronto i have a green gift for them and its sure as hell not environmentally friendly (or is it?).
by stephanie on Apr 3, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eeing dan lauzon made up for seeing “the beautiful ariani” and her backside 15 times.
by stephanie on Apr 3, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay If Lesnar was deducted a point for a few accidental hammer fists to the back of the head then Kenny should have been deducted a point for those nasty elbows to the back of Lauzon’s head. Wouldn’t have affectd the outcome of the fight but the reffing needs to be consistent. All in all a good night of MMA though
by RiverHorror on Apr 3, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh and I think both stop[ages were legit. Alexander was obviously out cold.
by RiverHorror on Apr 3, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im impressed by florian ( i finish fights!!)..hes really matured as a fighter. still like joe better though. kinda pissed about the alves and karo fight ..
by tuffguy01 on Apr 3, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alexander was definately out. He looked liked Chuck when Rampage beat his ass. Parisyan was a iffy stopage but you cant hate on the ref for it. Karo was the guy who got kneed in the head and then mounted and pounded.
by Northern Lights on Apr 3, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anthony Johnson looked really good against tommy speer. His striking was accurate with power including knees and kicks. He sort of reminds me of Anderson Silva only at welterweight. Im not saying hes the next Anderson, but his distruction of showed infinite potential. Not sure who he trains with, but if he plays his card right we could be talking about the next WW sensation.
by Emanuel0523 on Apr 3, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m pissed about how Joe blew his wad in the first round. Dude blew it all in round one, and then gave up it seemed like. I hate that Kenny.
by The Anomaly on Apr 3, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m pissed about how Joe blew his wad in the first round. Dude blew it all in round one, and then gave up it seemed like. I hate that Kenny.
Well, Joe has been training with BJ Penn…
by IceMuncher on Apr 3, 2008 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anthony Johnson looked really good against tommy speer. His striking was accurate with power including knees and kicks. He sort of reminds me of Anderson Silva only at welterweight. Im not saying hes the next Anderson, but his distruction of showed infinite potential. Not sure who he trains with, but if he plays his card right we could be talking about the next WW sensation.
Anthony does look good but lets not go overboard. Tommy has very poor striking defence. You could see in his stance, the way he held his hands and head. Combine that with the reach and athletics of anthony and the result is really no surprise to me.
by Harry Triangle on Apr 3, 2008 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo was a little title-shot-blowing, wager-costing-me bitch. I hope he never gets a damn title shot after that. Glad to see mini-Hughes get beaten back to the Stone Age.
by PW on Apr 3, 2008 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 things here…both stops were perfect calls if u dont agree then ur jus an idiot plain and simple…2nd wow joe ran out of gas after 1 round tell me that doesnt sound like fat bj,,,same thing will happen bj vs sherk
how great was 2nite karo got beat,my boy nate diaz proved he was fo real,and fat bjs boy lost great night fo all
by chucksux on Apr 3, 2008 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So let me get this straight………… You can elbow someone on the back of the head until he is dazed and bleeding. At which point u get to stand up and continue the fight.
Wtf is up with that. At the very least they should have restarted on the ground in the same position. He probably should have been DQed in my opinion. what a dirty piece of crap fighter u r florian.
The reffing was brutal. Some of the worst Ive seen. Just look at any title fight and look at the opportunity the fighter is given to recover. Look no further than serra gsp for example. The alexander stoppage was a good one. The karo stoppage was brutal. Mazagatti just took a title shot away from karo and set him back at least a year or more. I have seen him rocked before but he has come back very quickly. He should have been given more time than he was. That was garbage.
Where is John McCarthy when u need him.
by Harry Triangle on Apr 3, 2008 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where was Yve Lavinge!? he is prbly the best ref now?, and that new guy was good to (he did the matt hamill fight)
If mazzagati would have waited half a second with both the fights they prbly would have continued, maybe not the Irvin fight? I wanna see a rematch!
Nate Diaz and Anthony Johnson are beasts!
by FUCK ELITEXC! Go St. Pierre!!!!!! on Apr 3, 2008 1:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh and loved the Florian fight, good for joe lauzon, he looked good, Florian is just to much for him yet
how bout lauzon VS diaz
by FUCK ELITEXC! Go St. Pierre!!!!!! on Apr 3, 2008 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mazzagatti, I call for your head.
So much for the cool hand…
by Jesse Holland on Apr 3, 2008 1:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good call on Alexander, he flattened out…But he says his kids hit him harder, right..that’s why he dropped. Hamil or Bonnar vs. Irvin now.
by DirtbagHtr on Apr 3, 2008 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going crazy over the stoppages. Alexander/Irvin was the right call and as far as Parisyan, well it was borderline but when your legs buckle like his did and you’re mounted it’s hard to get on a ref who may be thinking “better safe than sorry”.
Exactly. Karo dropped like Tommy Speer did, his legs were folded under him and he was mounted and eating punches. I don’t think Karo could have recovered.
by MwM on Apr 3, 2008 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Picked 7/12, but not where it counted. Pissed off right about now. Some of these guys are throwing the fights.
Original predictions:
creepy joe armbar 2nd – i’ve been capping on florian this whole time about his bjj and standup being CRAP and i still think it sux. But he’s the BEST at getting to the mount @ 155. His finish was weak and I still hate him. LOST $
karo (even though i hate him) ud – i found myself rooting for this guy during the fight. i don’t know why. He was doing good with his crazy judo. Mazzagatti did stop the fight maybe 5 seconds early but Karo looked fat, and had no business going toe to to with thiago so he was asking for it.
matt hamill tko 3rd – Boetch’s striking looked liddell wannabe and was connecting. hahah.
diaz triangle 2nd – thrilled that diaz won but this fight was RIGGED! pellengrino was toying with diaz. he left his arm in there waaaaaay too long, noticeably and obviously. Kurt knew both legs were coming up and didn’t do shhhhhh! WATCH IT AGAIN!! RIGGED!!!
gray maynard ud – who the hell knew maynard could box like that? what the hell? good stuff!!
- houston alexander ko 1st – another 1 thats RIGGED!! Dude walked right into it!!!! wtf?! are you kidding me?! HE DID NOT SEEM PISSED OFF ENOUGH! And then has the nerve to smile after the fight!! lost allll respect for him. This was one of my sure bets. DAMN!! 1 hit wonder MFer.. next loss he’s out the UFC!
aurelio gueletine 1st – could care less
din thomas flyingknee ko 1st – could care less
- manny gueletine 1st minute – won $ not much.
guida ud – finally
sotiropoulous ud – could care less
speer ud – Anthony Johnson?!? who the hell is this guy? does he have a ground game? I’ll be stalking this guy
by kama kaze on Apr 3, 2008 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where was Yve Lavinge!? he is prbly the best ref now?, and that new guy was good to (he did the matt hamill fight)
If mazzagati would have waited half a second with both the fights they prbly would have continued, maybe not the Irvin fight? I wanna see a rematch!
Nate Diaz and Anthony Johnson are beasts!
The Hamill stoppage was the only one I had a problem with tonight. Just because you can’t get out of someone’s mount in a few minutes should not automatically mean the fight has to be stopped. His punches had nothing on them and most of them were being blocked.
This was an amazing fight card. I’ve been touting Anthony Johnson since his early stoppage of reiner. the guy has some mean hands. Maynard is also a beast. That guy has some heavy hands and great wrestling but I don’t know if he has a submission game. Nate is going to be knocked out soon. All he does is look for one sub move after another while taking a beating. One day that is going to catch up with him.
by Gregg on Apr 3, 2008 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo buckled on the knee, but those punches weren’t no where near flush shots. For a man who had a possible title shot on the line, it was a bullshit call to stop the fight that early.
The Alexander stoppage was way more justifiable.
And for everyone arguing that the Thiago/Karo stoppage was legit, wake up people. I want to see two fighters scrap it out. Safety was not an issue and it was premature. If you like to see bullshit calls like that end fights, or as a fighter enjoy wins that come like that, I really have no comment.
Mazzagatti robbed us of a possible 3 round WAR.
by Cool Hand Chad on Apr 3, 2008 2:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So much for the cool hand…
Ha Ha. Let me compose myself, please. Whew, OK.
It’s times like these that really make you miss Big John.
by Cool Hand Chad on Apr 3, 2008 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Hamill stoppage was the only one I had a problem with tonight. Just because you can’t get out of someone’s mount in a few minutes should not automatically mean the fight has to be stopped. His punches had nothing on them and most of them were being blocked.
This was an amazing fight card. I’ve been touting Anthony Johnson since his early stoppage of reiner. the guy has some mean hands. Maynard is also a beast. That guy has some heavy hands and great wrestling but I don’t know if he has a submission game. Nate is going to be knocked out soon. All he does is look for one sub move after another while taking a beating. One day that is going to catch up with him.
1 on diaz, i’m not impressed by his performance :)
i hate to say i told you so on alexander, but it was way to early to be mentioning him in the title picture. he’s proved that…twice.
the heat was beat….by the ref.
kenny hell of a fight-change your nick name
already though plz?
by sooper822 on Apr 3, 2008 2:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamill Looks monsterous at 205, looks like a Heavy? Glad Karo got his come upance, the dude is too cocky and doesn’t really back it up!
Likely will be Finch(boring!) vs. Alves for a title shot. ALves/GSP is a brawl! Maybe Karo can get KOS…eeew thats an ugly fight!
Whew..decidions, wow! James Irvin…need to see more, that was too quick and he’s always in a bizarre ending.
Tommy Speers is a can; or Anthony Johnson is the next big thing. I say Tommy is just a wrestling goon, a great wrestle but no other dimension. I mean Johnson lost to Rich Clementi, so lets not get to wrist happy with him yet.
Lauzon, is good, needs more seasoning,, it was frusterated to watch that lame ass “Ken-Flo” get the mount and Joe be unable to buck him.
by Hung Lo on Apr 3, 2008 2:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anthoney Johnson = KUDOS THIS GUY IS FOR REAL
by HALEXTITO on Apr 3, 2008 4:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Card
I was a big nick diaz fan But now im a bigger nate diaz fan he carrys himself with class and his ground game is unbelievable. Belts dont mean shit because if they did a brown belt would not have submitted a black belt
Give nate his black belt already
Sad to see karo lose, hopefully he comes back strong, he had the major advantage in the submission game his only strategy should have been to submit alves instead of trying to trade with him.
by dia mette on Apr 3, 2008 4:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like BJ’s camp has a problen with cardio. He better be ready for Sherk.
by Keith on Apr 3, 2008 5:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do these fight nights come out on dvd, is there anywhere i can see this action?
by markg on Apr 3, 2008 5:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo is rediculous. This guy needs to run and do some cardio always so fat and shitty, suprised he did not catch another tooth highlight reel for the Pitbull..
by trauma on Apr 3, 2008 6:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only on the Florian fight- how is he not the #1 contender prior to the fight? I know- Huerta et al. But Florian’s last loss- a long time ago- was to Sherk who was later stripped of the title so he should be hanging around at the top still. Dangerous fight for him last night because he had nothing to gain by beating Lauzon. He said he will fight whomever they put in front of him and he has- so give him next up already!
by Mamas Boy on Apr 3, 2008 6:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steve Mazzagatti Needs to be fired. Karo only took the knee and that was it. All the other punches hit his arms. WTF?
He also stopped the Houston Vs. Irvin Fight too fast. Mazzagatti sucks! I lost the bet so congrats john. Was it just me or did Karo have some love handles?
For the record I hate Fedor and the Eagle so that was the last time you will hear me say that.
The whole reason we are able to watch UFC action on TV is thanks to sanctioning/regulation. As soon as one guy dies in the cage (not saying if but when because it will happen), there’s going to be a period where all fights are stopped and an investigation, etc. There are still critics out there I’m sure who want to see human cock fighting shutdown.
I didn’t see the Alexander fight match (got it on DVR though) but I did see Karo get KO’d. That was the classic “Ken Shamrock” situation where a guy gets knocked out cold momentarily and the ref has no choice but to stop it. The replay of that one shows it’s definitely justified.
So yeah, it sucks when they stop it “early” but if they don’t, the downed fighter and entire sport for that matter are at risk.
by Mamas Boy on Apr 3, 2008 6:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay If Lesnar was deducted a point for a few accidental hammer fists to the back of the head then Kenny should have been deducted a point for those nasty elbows to the back of Lauzon’s head. Wouldn’t have affectd the outcome of the fight but the reffing needs to be consistent. All in all a good night of MMA though
I guess most of the strikes were to the top of the head which is fair game and maybe strayed a bit down. Not enough to warrant a penalty point anyway.
by Mamas Boy on Apr 3, 2008 6:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1. The Hammer hamil has heart and the skill to be a champ
2. The Assasin was a flash in the pan, 205 needed it at the time
3. K-FLO is the best 155 in “the octagon” besides BJ penn
4. Nate Diaz! omg, wtf, great job kid!
5. bye bye karo!
6. anyone know about the undercards?
7. great night of fights imo, thank you ufc and spike no matter how much i disagree with the way you run the operation
by the jerry jer on Apr 3, 2008 6:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick notes and observations: Don’t blame anyone for gassing last night, fighting that high up has to be incredibly difficult. Anthony Johnson: serious speed and power. Nate took an f ing beatdown in round one, but came back beautifully. Florian vs Penn (if he survives Sherk) could be a fight of the year nomination. Loved TUF! I felt like a junkie who had gotten his fix last night. Outstanding fights overall for four solid hours. I actually liked last night better than most PPVs. AND lastly, is it just me, or was Karo fat? I swear he jiggled when he moved and had a pooch hanging over his shorts. He is a bad@Ass, but nobody can tell me he couldn’t cut a few more pounds and become an absolute monster at lightweight.
by chefdaddy on Apr 3, 2008 7:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo, you didnt look like you came to fight. You put your head down and swing too much. Karo was hoping to coast through that fight. For all I am a big fan, he is gonna have to make it up to me. Kick the crap out of Kos or Diago for me and we’ll be all good.
Alves, was there to get ’er done. He was on a mission.
Diaz, Man I hate the guy. He takes a beating and guys still dont learn, stay out of his legs.
Batman, You dropped the ball. Take out someone asap in the next 2 months.
KFLO, Kept the pressure on but will get killed vs sherk or BJ.
Joe, Go try kid. But it was wrote instone. It was like the only fight I got right all night.
Irving, BINGO. WE HAVE A WINNER.
Houston, your done. YOu cant bang now and couldnt do the ground game. Take on Bonnar… As a last hoora.
Hamill, I like you as a person and a fighter. Keep steamrolling… Too bad the whussy (BISPING) moved down to MW to escape you eh.
Boetch, I like your style. And I feel any of those knees would have ko’d your average run of the mill LHW. How about Houston. That should be a gimme.
Gray, Perfect man. You only looked out of sorts maybe 2 times during the whole fight. (Thats what randy can do for you)
Edgar, Gray was right when he said he was the BIGGER guy. I think you should reconsider where your at if you lose another fight. Your fight vs griffen could have been a fluke now that I look at it. How about Lauzon or Manny??
by Yikes on Apr 3, 2008 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo buckled on the knee, but those punches weren’t no where near flush shots. For a man who had a possible title shot on the line, it was a bullshit call to stop the fight that early.
The Alexander stoppage was way more justifiable.
And for everyone arguing that the Thiago/Karo stoppage was legit, wake up people. I want to see two fighters scrap it out. Safety was not an issue and it was premature. If you like to see bullshit calls like that end fights, or as a fighter enjoy wins that come like that, I really have no comment.
Mazzagatti robbed us of a possible 3 round WAR.
Great, now instead of an injury, Karo will hide behind Mazz for a couple more years as the reason for no title shot…
He got rocked, maybe it was stopped a bit early but the pit bull would have had 5 more undefended shots to Karo’s dome had Steve not jumped when he did. I actually wish he would have waited, maybe it would knock some of the bitch out of Karo.
by Arnold on Apr 3, 2008 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steve Mazzagatti Needs to be fired. Karo only took the knee and that was it. All the other punches hit his arms. WTF?
He also stopped the Houston Vs. Irvin Fight too fast. Mazzagatti sucks! I lost the bet so congrats john. Was it just me or did Karo have some love handles?
For the record I hate Fedor and the Eagle so that was the last time you will hear me say that.
I think Mazzagatti stopped both of those fights perectly. The only reason Karo looked like he as covering up was becasue the way he crumbled and fell over. When he fell from his knees his arm went foward to protect his face. He was out plain and simple. With Houston It was clear as well. His arms went stiff and all after the second shot to the dome. IRving has super heavy hands, it would be nice to see him come back healthy. He had the balls to say his kids hit harder then that. So he must have a super shitty chin. He got dropped. When your knees buckle like his did you were hurt, they he took 2 more to the head and his arms went stiff “Lights OUT!” for both of them.
Yes KAro looked much heavier then normal. He looked like he may have walked in at 190 or so so.
by Da Monkey on Apr 3, 2008 7:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and a suggestion to all of the crappy “sportsbars” out there. PUT MMA ON 1 OF YOUR TVs, PLEASE. I walked into one after skipping the gym last night cuz I really wanted to see the fights. There were 19, count ‘em, 19 t.v.s in the bar area alone, it was really slow, and it still took me begging and pleading for 10 freakin minutes to get just one tuned in to SPIKE. I missed most of round 1 of the florian/lauzon fight and all of the fight before. Just 1 tv, that’s all I ask, sorry if some redneck couldn’t watch the third game of the season in baseball and had to turn his head 2 inches to view the
tv beside it. Cater to your customers, dammit!
by chefdaddy on Apr 3, 2008 7:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamill fight was just great. After reading time and time that Boetch was the man. With that said I think Hamill has some work to do a defense!!! That chin of his is good, but not good enough for the title. Houston – WTF! Luzon – pulled a BJ. Nate – like his brother – takes way to much punishment in his fights, win or not. KenFlo – this guy is the meanist nerd I’ve ever seen. Both early stoppages were correct – if your a fighter it’s hard to except you just got cought – BAM lights out!!!
by JTK5 on Apr 3, 2008 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mazz did at least one bad stoppage, i don’t know about the alexander fight but the karo fight was stopped premature, i hope the ufc and dana talk to him about it
by bryant on Apr 3, 2008 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can I get my props for putting you all on to the Alves upset pick?
I also had lauzon, and I was wrong there….
But I tried tel;ling everyone, including you Jesse, PW, that Karo was not going to win that fight!
I just watched Sportcenters top 10 plays and #10 was James Irving KO’ing Alexander.
Nick Diaz’s ju jitsu is truly amazing. Diaz grappled without loosening Batman up with strikes, which makes his ju jitsu that much more impressive. Submitting BATMAN, is very tough to do, Submiting him without loosening him up 1st, is very hard…. Diaz to the top!
That season of TUF really produced some true Fighters!
Diaz beat a GAME Batman
Maynard beat a tough Edgar
Manny beat a tool
The only one who lost was Creepy Joe, but I was very impressed with him Florian is just a tough fighter. I wonder what kind of effects those elbows to tghe back of the head. I have been hit in the back of the head before and It really messes up your equilibrium. Joe had no time to recover, and Florian walked away with only a warning… Referee must have screamed watch the back of the head Kenny like 10 times…. Bad refereeing!
As for the early stoppages, I think they were all justified! Just cause your favorite fighter looses, that does not mean that the fight was stopped Early. Alexander was OUT! Karo’s knee’s buckled and he was OUT!!! Boetsch was not OUT, but it was like when BJ lost too Matt Hughes, he could not get out of that position and he would have just taken more damage. Same goes with Lauzon, he wasnt OUT, but he couldnt get out of that position so the stoppage was warranted.
I knew Rumble was going to beat Spears, I just didnt know it was going to be so damn impressive…WOW!!!! Spears has yet to show the ability to fight on the big stage. at the TUF Finale he crapped his pants in front of that Huge crowd, and I dont know if that was the case last night because Rumble was all over him anyway!
by john on Apr 3, 2008 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First off, lets all take a moment of silence and mourn the loss of Steve Mazzagatti’s mustache…
by Nokimono on Apr 3, 2008 8:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was rooting for Karo for some reason. But in my opinion he deserved to lose, coming into the octogan with blubber hanging over his shorts. He needs to train like everybody else- bulk up, and drop weight for your weight class. Just because Joe Rogan says he’s chimp strong, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to train for his fights.
by jess on Apr 3, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was rooting for Karo for some reason. But in my opinion he deserved to lose, coming into the octogan with blubber hanging over his shorts. He needs to train like everybody else- bulk up, and drop weight for your weight class. Just because Joe Rogan says he’s chimp strong, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to train for his fights.
by jess on Apr 3, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im sorry but kenny dont impress me any if he didnt use illegal elbows in round one and cut joe it probably would have ended different,he would have no shot against bj or sherk.
by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Apr 3, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamill has one of the strongest chins in the LHW division. I have never seen anyone take knees like that and just keep on fighting. Wow, his lip looked nasty.
by jimmy_dean on Apr 3, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great night of fights. The altitude really messed a lot of guys up.
The stoppages were perfect, both of those guys folded like lawn chairs after being hit. Karo whining like a little bitch flailing, alteast Alexander took it with a lil more professionalism. But I would have stopped those fights in the same manner. Karo’s legs scissored underneath him, and Houston was obviously out cold… Im with Rogan and Maz on both calls.
And… Frankie Edgar is waaaay too small for 155. He should be fighting featherweight. Grey Maynard totally dwarfed him, and physically mauled the shit out of him on the ground. However… I think Edgar definitely took the second round, he pushed the fight much more on his feet when Grey looked winded as hell.
Im still shocked Diaz pulled it out. Kurt just seemed to fall on his face in the second and Diaz didnt… great great win for him.
by Luppers on Apr 3, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why is mazzagatti still a ref? how does he still have a job?
there are many low blows he has let go (3 i can think of off the top of my head)
the point deduction from brock, one of the strangest calls i had seen.
and just for the simple fact that every bad call by an offical that i can remember are all by him.
if a fighter fucked up as many times as him he woulda been sent packing a long time ago.
i dont know how many good fights they really wanna risk by having him as the official. remember dont leave it in the jugdes hands? well dont put it in mazzagatti’s either.
please god send someone to asassinate this guy.
by Greg on Apr 3, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait to watch these fights again soemtime on spike and see if they cut out Joe Rogan describing Hamill holding down Boetch with a “rape choke” while he was punching him.
couldn’t just call it a ‘big-brother choke’ Joe?
by RenzoHatfield on Apr 3, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“This is a massive blow to Parisyan’s immediate title fight chances and a massive boon to Alves.’ Barring an injury to either Georges St. Pierre or Matt Serra in two weeks, it looks like the top welterweight contender picture has been cleared up thanks to one Alves knee.
Get ready, Jon Fitch."
“I think Alves will Maul Karo!”….Any Karo lovers out here want to talk about title contention now???
by BUUCK on Apr 3, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure glad Tommy Speer got thumped. I hope his UFC career is over, nothing worse than big, strong-dimensional fighters. Even if he was good at what hw does, the Hughes-Sherk style is really hard to watch, and not to mention a dying art. Great job to Johnson. Looked good!
by GodDamnMike on Apr 3, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that the Karo stoppage was a bit early…and KAro has a right to be a bit upset over it seeing how marcus davis vs paul taylor set a precedent…that fight deserved to be stopped more than this one.
KenFlo vs Huerta needs to happen for the #1 contenders match.
I think Anthony Johnson is a freak and he’s going to make some waves in the division. 6’2 and a 78" reach? Damn that’s impressive and his striking was absolutely crisp. Let’s see him go up against Hazelett next.
by Buster Bluth on Apr 3, 2008 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Hamill stoppage was the only one I had a problem with tonight. Just because you can’t get out of someone’s mount in a few minutes should not automatically mean the fight has to be stopped. His punches had nothing on them and most of them were being blocked.
This was an amazing fight card. I’ve been touting Anthony Johnson since his early stoppage of reiner. the guy has some mean hands. Maynard is also a beast. That guy has some heavy hands and great wrestling but I don’t know if he has a submission game. Nate is going to be knocked out soon. All he does is look for one sub move after another while taking a beating. One day that is going to catch up with him.
The Hamill stoppage was justified. Hamill landed dozens of undefended blows before the bout was finally called. Boetsch couldn’t do anything from there.
by 123boogie on Apr 3, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great night of fights, unless you bet $ on Edgar…
NATE F’ING DIAZ!!! That fight was reminiscent of his fight against Gray Maynard of TUF. He gets beat up in the first round and submits opponent in the second. This kid is ready to take on the top of the division, right now. Joe Stevenson’s win over Kurt Pellegrino, a decision win none the less, is what cemented a title shot for Daddy. So what does a win over Batman mean for Nate? I’ve yet to read thru the comments (I’m about to), but I got a recommendation on who he should fight next – Tyson Griffin. Plus Nate called Tyson out after his last win, and they used to train together until Tyson left. That is a fight I want to see. That fight would make a great Main Event to an UFN, or of course be showcased on a PPV.
One year from now, only about 25% of us will still knew who Houston Alexander is.
I expected Hamill to win, but he did so rather impressively, even applying the rape choke. Once the rape choke is applied, you know you’re opponent is f*cked.
Anthony Johnson KO’s another white boy. I think that it’s time that they match Johnson up with another striker in the division. A Johnson and Spencer Fisher match up nicely, and a fight between the two would make sense. Johnson is on the bottom of the ladder moving up. Spencer Fisher was near the top of the ladder, but has been moving down.
What is this I read about Florian / Huerta??? I think that if BJ Penn beats Sean Sherk than a Florian/Penn fight must happen!
by ViolentMike on Apr 3, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha…mania went 2-4 in its predictions..not bad at all.
by Anonymousf*ck on Apr 3, 2008 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ladies and gentle men…
Let’s go thiago
and i need a favor from all of you go find Tommy Speer and let him know he was in a fight last night. Did you see that tear in his eye as he lay crumpled next to the cage. Like I said when Jardine Did it to Forrest.. THERE IS NO CRYING IN THE UFC!!!
Good Job Anthony Johnson that made my night!
by TapSnapOrNapBJJ on Apr 3, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Card
I was a big nick diaz fan But now im a bigger nate diaz fan he carrys himself with class and his ground game is unbelievable. Belts dont mean shit because if they did a brown belt would not have submitted a black belt
Give nate his black belt already
Sad to see karo lose, hopefully he comes back strong, he had the major advantage in the submission game his only strategy should have been to submit alves instead of trying to trade with him.
I am also a big fan of the Diaz brothers ever since UFC 47!!! Well, a fan of Nick back then, and a fan of Nate’s as soon as I seen him fight just like his brother.
It all depends on who your belt is from. The Diaz brother’s train with Cesar Gracie. He is not too quick to hand out black belts. You can not measure BJJ skills just on belt color. Someone that trains BJJ at the local YMCA can earn a blackbelt. Does that mean that he is better than the newly achieved Cesar Gracie brown belt, Nate Diaz? No way!
by ViolentMike on Apr 3, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
QUick side note: James Irvin was a handsome dude. Then he shaved his head and all of a sudden he is unrecognizable and resembles an alien more so than he does his former self.
by ViolentMike on Apr 3, 2008 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2rJTWaNN8g
If you guys watch when Karo hits the floor, he crumbles off to his side. The arm come up to defensive spot becase the way he falls to his side. The arm just come up with momentum. He pulls his left hand in front of his face but it is just a hand there sitting on his face.
by Da Monkey on Apr 3, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can I get my props for putting you all on to the Alves upset pick?
Begrudgingly, props to you John. My wagering site had the odds reversed early in the week, so I got Karo as a plus-130 dog. If I was smart I would have also put an equal amount on Alves after he went back to underdog status and made some money in the middle like a bookie instead of losing like a sucker.
by PW on Apr 3, 2008 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Begrudgingly, props to you John. My wagering site had the odds reversed early in the week, so I got Karo as a plus-130 dog. If I was smart I would have also put an equal amount on Alves after he went back to underdog status and made some money in the middle like a bookie instead of losing like a sucker.
Thank You! PW, you took your loss gracefully and thats all that matters.
I lost $ on Edgar and Lauzon luckily the Overs/Unders bets saved me on fights I did loose. I did pretty good last night! I cant complain
by john on Apr 3, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well….atlease Karo lost!
I’m happy!
YAA! I pegged him to win, but it was good to see him get beat. Dent that ego a little. haha
by grembone on Apr 3, 2008 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 things here…both stops were perfect calls if u dont agree then ur jus an idiot plain and simple…2nd wow joe ran out of gas after 1 round tell me that doesnt sound like fat bj,,,same thing will happen bj vs sherk
how great was 2nite karo got beat,my boy nate diaz proved he was fo real,and fat bjs boy lost great night fo all
this statement comes from someone who wrote their post like a ten year old who lost their ritalyn.
houston was done. karo was not.
by Hardcase on Apr 3, 2008 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this statement comes from someone who wrote their post like a ten year old who lost their ritalyn.
houston was done. karo was not.
Agreed, though it’s tough to second guess the refs in the octagon. I do think Karo was defending himself. Whether or not he could have kept it up is another matter. But we’ll never know now. Mazz had a rough night. By the way, Houston, you were doing the dying cockroach on the floor. You may not have been out for long, but you were out. Good night of fights.
by SeeRed on Apr 3, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I batted about .500 for this event with my picks…and now I’m down to less than $600 on mmaplayground.
maybe Edgar should move down to 145. Maynard was just too powerful for him.Edgar should have let maynard slam him so maybe Maynard could knock himself out again.
by Mattchupichu on Apr 3, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about Karo and Houston calling early stoppages, but Gray Maynard saying he was not out after clearly bashing his own head on the ground and falling over repeatedly.You could almost see the tweety birds flying around his head.
by Mattchupichu on Apr 3, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lets hope BJ’s cardio looks a little better than louzons, or else sherk will tear his apart with his 110% pace
by freestyle on Apr 3, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
first of all of all what an AWESOME f***ing show.
heres a little hockey analogy for you.when the ref losses sight of the puck in the goalies crease he has the right to blow the whistle and stop the play.
Mazz lost sight of Karos face after the heat went down so he played it safe and did what he thought was right. saving the heat from getting hurt.
houston was out. maybe he should drop to Mwt.
Nate was IMPRESSIVE that kid is tough as hell.
im glad that Ken won his fight.im a little bit surprised that joe quit in the 2nd. IMO that loss puts him 4 or 5 wins away from being a contender.
the BULLY got the dec. over the Answer was a fight i could have lived without seeing ,i would have rather seen Din.T vs. the Dentist J.Neer.
i hope A.Johnson can develop a ground game to go with his strikes. man Tommy was out.
what a solid chin Matt Hamil has. that was a ugly cut on his lip.the barbarian looked outta shape.i didnt like Matt before this fight but now i got mad respect for him.
by the levi on Apr 3, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In fairness to Barbarian Boetsch, he took the fight on short notice. As hard as it must be to take any fight on short notice, it has to be 10 times harder when you’re fighting in Denver when you don’t have time to adapt to the altitude. He had a good first round but was clearly gassed in the second.
by PW on Apr 3, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have to give props to ken-flo cause i picked him to lose and stated the he was overrated. i was wrong, ken is a well rounded fighter and can fight just as good off his back as well as on his feet unlike frankie edgar who needs to step up his bjj and submissions. since alot of posters here like to give out nicknames i want nate diaz to be known as nate the great from here on until he gets beat. he’s gonna be way better than nick ever will be. i agree w/ some that the karo fight was stopped premature, but not the houston fight. great night of fights in all, i just wish they could have snuck in clays fight. oh well there’s always the net.
by b.w. on Apr 3, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate Diaz deserves all the poontang he’s gonna be getting. I hate young punks like Nate like all almost 40 year old men, but god dang. It ain’t crap talking or show boating when you back it up…….especially after getting your’e face caved in by a much stronger elder fighter.
Great job Nate.
Shame on the UFC for the Speer/Johnson matchup…..please recognize even in the sport where anything can happen that unsafe mismatches to build fighters are lame.
Houston was out. Great trickery by Irvin. And great gameplan, execution, balls and confidence by Irvin. I agree with Houston, we never got to see him fight but it’s his own damn fault.
Hamil needs to learn how to avoid dropping his head but Boetsch was as expected…tough but wild.
Too bad we couldn’t see Guida and I feel sorry for Pellegrino’s next victim.
Karo was out. Please….Thiago Alves has always been a great fighter who is extremely dangerous. To pretend like it wouldn’t have gotten worse is tom foolery. Don’t get dropped in the first place?
Grey and Edgar? 6-3 to Maynard under collegiate wrestling rules. 3 takedowns and 3 escapes. Under olympic love tap boxing rules 3 rounds to none edgar plus extra points for the gash on grey’s eybrow (schoolyard rules)
Ken Flow? No longer a fan. Elbow’s to the back of the head are weak. I thought he’d show off some Thai fighting or some jits but nothing….not even a pound out after over 2 minutes in mount.
J Lau? I call it a doctor stoppage no contest. He deserves another couple fight wins.
Huerta? Gonna keep getting called out and I think Florian takes it (among others)
by Ny on Apr 3, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure glad that Karo chose an easier opponent like Alvez instead of stepping up and fighting Fitch while waiting for his title shot. Great move genius! Just wish the ref would have let Thiago smack him a few more times before calling it so we wouldn’t have to listen to all the crybaby excuses today.
Its hard to find fighters today who just accept the fact that they got beat instead of making stupid excuses or blaming it on the refs. If you dominate well enough then you don’t need to worry about the ref’s decisions. Diego accepting his loss to Fitch like a man with no excuses was actually a class act and its too bad that other fighters don’t follow in his footsteps.
by BUUCK on Apr 3, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Houston we have a problem. You got knocked the f out. Hammil looked good after getting handled for a round. Diaz is no joke he got handled in that first round, UFC should not interview him though he sounds retarded. Karo looked like a bitch complaining and spitting, I liked him before that fight. You got handled be a good sport about it. Kenny did what he needed to, but Joe looked decent in defeat. UFC needs to consider the presentation irritating that they take up a bunch of time to announce the victor, I would rather have seen more fights we knew who won the majority of fights within seconds of the end. Would have liked to have seen Guida fight instead of all the bs.
by Fightinroundtheworld on Apr 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In fairness to Barbarian Boetsch, he took the fight on short notice. As hard as it must be to take any fight on short notice, it has to be 10 times harder when you’re fighting in Denver when you don’t have time to adapt to the altitude. He had a good first round but was clearly gassed in the second.
PW: U brought up a great point that I didnt even notice. Like you said taking a fight on short notice is not an easy task, and when that fight is scheduled to take place in Denver, it may be too tough of a task. Boetsch looked really solid in round one, and he did gas in round 2.
Still, I was very impressed with boetsch as well as Hammil. Boetsch really is a barbarian.
by john on Apr 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have to give props to ken-flo cause i picked him to lose and stated the he was overrated. i was wrong, ken is a well rounded fighter and can fight just as good off his back as well as on his feet unlike frankie edgar who needs to step up his bjj and submissions. since alot of posters here like to give out nicknames i want nate diaz to be known as nate the great from here on until he gets beat. he’s gonna be way better than nick ever will be. i agree w/ some that the karo fight was stopped premature, but not the houston fight. great night of fights in all, i just wish they could have snuck in clays fight. oh well there’s always the net.
B.W: Last week you and I had a little debate about this event and we came to a conclusion that either Edgar or Florian was going to get upset. Kudos to you for calling the Edgar upset!
by john on Apr 3, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
B.W: Last week you and I had a little debate about this event and we came to a conclusion that either Edgar or Florian was going to get upset. Kudos to you for calling the Edgar upset!
back at you for alves. i did think the fight was stopped a little premature but alves was going to win any imo. i think your’e alves vs diego is gonna happen as well. at least i hope so.
by b.w. on Apr 3, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
back at you for alves. i did think the fight was stopped a little premature but alves was going to win any imo. i think your’e alves vs diego is gonna happen as well. at least i hope so.
Thanks B.W. As for Diego vs. Alves it could be a real possibility once Diego submits Luigi, there fights are only 2 months apart and I think this will be the logical choice for matchmaker Joe Silva.
The only way I can see Diego vs. Alves not happening is if Koschek defeats Lytle (1 month later). The UFC may then want to set up the rubber match up between kos/Diego, and as much as I would like to see Alves vs. Diego, I would understand if they went with the Diego vs. Kos match up and I wouldn’t be mad either.
Another possible and great match up for Alves would be against
Marcus Davis if he can get passed Swick (which I expect him to do). Davis vs. Alves would match up to of the divisions best strikers and would make for a hell of a scrap, very simular to the great fight that Alves vs. Lytle was.
by john on Apr 3, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
edgar needs a new camp, not gonna cut it in toms river
by john on Apr 3, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
edgar needs a new camp, not gonna cut it in toms river
i agree. he def needs to work on his bjj and submission game. he cant do anything unless he’s on top. he did look kinda small next to gray so maybee a move to 145 would help as well. i think dana needs a 145 division in the ufc. he’s gonna have to bring faber into the ufc sooner or later. uriah is too big a star for the wec.
by b.w. on Apr 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was 10 of 12 last night. I lost the Alexander/Irving fight, however I got the round and winning method right – I knew that wasn’t lasting long and someone was getting knocked out.
Also picked Tommy S. because I thought he might have been able to lay and pray Johnson.
by Walter on Apr 3, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody know the name of the song that was Joe Lauzon’s intro?
by Raiden on Apr 3, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s time for the UFC to have a 145 lb division so very skilled fighters like Edgar don’t have to fight in a weight class they don’t belong in, in order to stay in the UFC. Maynard was impressive on his feet, and all around great game plan, should we expect less from a Couture protege? I still love Lauzon but this was him being thrown in with a top contender too soon. Nate Diaz is a throwback to the days of Royce Gracie, where Royce would be taking a beating and then his opponent would be tapping out a few seconds later trying to salvage one his appendages from being snapped like a twig. Matt Hammil good win, inspirational guy, but when he strikes from the top it always seems as though he’s going through the motions, not really inflicting damage but throwing punches to curry favor with the judges instead of trying to punish his opponent. Some people just don’t have that “killer instinct” and unfortunately I think Hammil is one of those people.
by garddog59 on Apr 3, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like BJ’s camp has a problen with cardio. He better be ready for Sherk.
That’s completely wrong mang. Kenny was just a better fighter during that fight. That’s just what it is. Everyone had issues with with cardio, because of the fact that they don’t fight in that climate all the time. Joe will be dangerous in a few years(he is already) and let’s not forget he’s only 23. As for BJ, cardio will not be an issue come
May 24.
by pUniSHment on Apr 3, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t feel sorry for Joe Lauzon for the elbows from Florian. If you remember the quarterfinal fight he had on TUF against Cole Miller, he was being beaten until he hit Cole in the back of the head with an elbow. Cole was never the same after that and Lauzon went on to win the fight. These things happen in the fight game. Karma’s a bitch, aint it?
by GregC on Apr 3, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NEWS FLASH!!! At the Sac Kings vs Clippers game at Arco Arena, Sac, CA, its Olympics Night. Kurt Angle was present and was interviewed. He mentioned that he was fighting against Couture sometime in the fall, and was not allowed yet to mention which promotion!!!!!!!!!!!
by DirtbagHtr on Apr 4, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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