le could fight hose or baroni or wait for the winner of lawler vs smith. even though it will never happen i would love to see him fight anderson(not that i think he will win)i would just like to watch it.the ufc needs to stop with the no crosspromtions the only m.w. they have that i would want to see fight anderson is a rematch with dan after that they need some other talent i want to see anderson fight f.shamrock,lindland, and cung.

Yet as with any “new” player in mixed martial arts, fantasy matchmaking goes from intelligent and plausible to midnight madness in 10 posts or less.

hahahaha. well put.

I think Lindland would be a smart move. A guy who will play to his own strengths. I still feel that its basically due to a lack of fighting that lindland is not number 1. The guys is insane on the ground.. i guess you could say hes…..insane in the membrane!!

Jorge Santiago still has a title shot waiting for him after winning the “Four man enter, one man survives” tournament in November

Who cares…he is a minor leaguer who isn’t relevant and never will be…I am sure he would be destroyed by anyone in the UFC…I am sick of seeing articles about this no talent loser too!

since they are always putting on shows together they should have a unifacation bout. Le vs. winner of Smith vs. Lawler.
who ever wins this would be an exciting match against Le.
the Law Matt Lindland would also be an intresting match. the Law would probably have a safe game plan to take Le down & punish him. if the Law cant get close enough i think that Le will probably KO him. just like david terrell did.

“Yes, Shamrock vs. Le II will happen. And why shouldn’t it?”

Who the fuck wants to see two Gary Shaw puppets duke it out to a script.

Frank curiously forgot the “mixed” in MMA as do ALL of Cung’s opponents.

Kimbo’s opponents will do the same.

I have no interest in this fighter until Gary Shaw is out of the picture.

Enjoy the new WWF.

We still need to see someone take Le to the ground before we can say how much of a threat he is. I was pretty disappointed in that fight. They both connected, but neither would follow up and try to finish. It seemed like a sparring match with a minimum of 3 rounds being the most important goal. Each time one of them connected, they backed up and gave the other guy plenty of time to recover.

The fight was the best Non-UFC striking battle I’ve seen. Not to mention the most technical. Frank played a dumb move, he should have taken it to the ground. I think that would have got it done for him. As for the next guy to face Cung Le, it should be “Ruthless” Robbie Lawler. It would make for another striking clinic.

i forgot mention that rematch would be awesome.
cant wait to see Shamrock vs. Le 2.
maybe Frank wont try to stand with him next time. he needs to figure out a way to get by those kicks Le kept on throwing. it would have been intresting to see if Le could fight off of his back. or would he just bring the fight back to standing like Chuck does.

Who cares…he is a minor leaguer who isn’t relevant and never will be…I am sure he would be destroyed by anyone in the UFC…I am sick of seeing articles about this no talent loser too!

By anyone in the UFC MW division, huh? Actually, I think that Le would be right in the upper-middle of the pack of the MW division, the same level as Leben and Cote. ANderson Silva or Dan Henderson would own him. I would like to think that Rich Frankln could take him down and pound him out, but that would be an interesting fight.

I like having Misaki get the title shot against Le.

Someone refresh my memory. How often is that Strikeforce program going to be on on Saturday nights? Is is every week? Once a month?

Those of us with brains are sick of your un-though out, no-intelligence displaying posts Grizzly Bear…

I am sure after Anderson Silva loses you will be off of his tip and on to the next great thing…let me guess…You are a huge fan of Big Nog, Rampage, Spider, GSP, and Penn who just happen to be champs…I bet you are also a fan of the NY Giants too right…

Give Cung his props, he faught a good fight, he’s fun to watch and he’s good at what he does….

He did well.. and it wasn’t Cung Le’s fault that Frank didn’t go the ground.. that was all Frank, and the two times Frank tried, it didn’t work out.. so we know Cung’s take down defense is good. Frank’s ego got in the way of what he did best.. Ground and pound. He’s own fault

I would like to see Cung fight Robbie Lawler next. That would be a good test.. I see Cung having a slight edge, but it can go both ways.

Cung is just as good as any UFC fighter.. being in the UFC doesn’t mean your the best, it just means your not marketable (yet). Plenty of UFC fighters are like that until they’re on a losing streak (un-marketable) then UFC will just dump you into WEC or just let you go from your contract…

Business is Business.

MISAKI WOULD BE A TOUGH CHALLENGE FOR LE HES GOT ALOT OF EXPIRIENCE AND A GOOD CHIN. LAWLER TOO BUT MISAKI GREAT!!!!!!!!!

At first I thought that said that he was fighting Billy Blanks. I guess he’d get a good workout.

If he remains hot the only suitable match would be Silva.. and the ufc has the money… just a matter of time..

If he remains hot the only suitable match would be Silva.. and the ufc has the money… just a matter of time..

Wouldn’t happen. Le’s good, but Silda is too big, strong, and technical in his striking. He’s almost 2 weight classes above Le if you think about it. Silva can easily fight at 205 with no problems, and Le only made it to 183, he’d clearly be a better welterweight.

Who cares…he is a minor leaguer who isn’t relevant and never will be…I am sure he would be destroyed by anyone in the UFC…I am sick of seeing articles about this no talent loser too!

It’s obvious He doesnt know what hes talking about. Just ignore this post. He was proabably the kid in the sandbox nobody played with, grew up, went to the gym and realized he could lift the bar and 2 25’s(not 225). Then with his new found strength he turned to MMA because thats what cool people do.

A fight with Silva would be too risky for both fighters. Can you imagine silva getting a fluke kick to his temple? Or Silva dismantling Le just as he has with his opponents?

Of course, Le would need to be tested against middle-tiered UFC veterans. His ground-game is suspect and must be tested.

Regardless, I’m rooting for the guy. I’d love to see him face off with Robbie. Can he survive Robbie’s bombs? Or rather, can Robbie survive Cung’s wicked kicks?

Its not easy to take somebody to the ground if they’re a skilled striker. So Cung got his way but only through preparation and skill, not by luck. Is it fair to say that Chuck would get destroyed on the ground because he is rarely taken down?

At least we know Cung Le Shamrock 2 could go either way if Frank sticks to his ground game…Cung Le was rocked a couple of times add some take downs too that and Cung Le might not wanna risk a broken ankle

At least we know Cung Le Shamrock 2 could go either way if Frank sticks to his ground game…Cung Le was rocked a couple of times add some take downs too that and Cung Le might not wanna risk a broken ankle

I really think Shamrock would have taken that fight. I actually thought he would have ended it when Le was rocked at the end there, untill Shamrock’s arm snapped in half lol. But yeah, add some takedowns and his striking, I think Shamrock would take it. Problem is, can he take down Le? It seems a couple times he tried to but wasn’t successful, though he only really tried like twice. Eitehr way, a rematch would be good, since the first fight was so much fun to watch.

i see misaki next in line

A fight with Silva would be too risky for both fighters. Can you imagine silva getting a fluke kick to his temple? Or Silva dismantling Le just as he has with his opponents?

Of course, Le would need to be tested against middle-tiered UFC veterans. His ground-game is suspect and must be tested.

Regardless, I’m rooting for the guy. I’d love to see him face off with Robbie. Can he survive Robbie’s bombs? Or rather, can Robbie survive Cung’s wicked kicks?

Id like to see him fight someone who can test him on the ground like Ninja. Ninja hasnt exactly looked like the PRIDE Ninja in some time now, but he is still under 30 years old and if his conditioning is good enough he would make a great opponent for Cung Le. Ninja’s Muy Tai would provide a nice contrast of styles when matched up against Le’s unique striking and Ninja is a threat on the ground so it might give us a better idea of what level Le’s ground game is on.

As for Misake, I would have no problems with this match up. Misake is a very tough middleweight. I cant think of any other Japanease fighter in PRide to ever beat Dan Henderson besides Misake and he did it in a very prestigous tournament when the stakes were high. Misake vs. Le would be a very good fight.

It has been reported through fiveouncesofpain.com that UFC and ESPN top officials have met and are in talks to create a partner ship.

After such positive articles on the UFC from ESPN, like this one: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2516201

people are now talking that the 2 sports giants maybe enter into partnership.

While Spike is the official cable home of the UFC, there is no longer an ABC Sports division, only ESPN on ABC, leading to speculation that such a partnership could lead to live events on ABC.

It has been reported through fiveouncesofpain.com that UFC and ESPN top officials have met and are in talks to create a partner ship.

After such positive articles on the UFC from ESPN, like this one: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2516201

people are now talking that the 2 sports giants maybe enter into partnership.

While Spike is the official cable home of the UFC, there is no longer an ABC Sports division, only ESPN on ABC, leading to speculation that such a partnership could lead to live events on ABC.

This is an article from www.dreamfighters.com which is a pretty good site

It has been reported through fiveouncesofpain.com that UFC and ESPN top officials have met and are in talks to create a partner ship.

After such positive articles on the UFC from ESPN, like this one: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2516201

people are now talking that the 2 sports giants maybe enter into partnership.

While Spike is the official cable home of the UFC, there is no longer an ABC Sports division, only ESPN on ABC, leading to speculation that such a partnership could lead to live events on ABC.

ESPN huh? That’s pretty damn good. They’ll probably get a better deal than the CBS one gave EliteXC.

elite/strikeforce promoters are smart (look at the kimbo hype), they’ll put cung against a “can” and then a rematch with frank (which frank will take him down and dominate) setting up a great rubbermatch. They can ride this rivalry for 12-18 months and get some great publicity.

Influence of MMA has reached the world of professional wrestling at it’s biggest stage.

This past Sunday night at Wrestlemania XXIV, the Undertaker beat Edge with a gogoplata submission.

Formerly known as the “Dead Man” and “American Badass”, the Undertaker has evolved his character into a mixed martial arts fighter of sorts. This includes wearing MMA style gloves and using submissions a lot more often in his matches.

To put this in perspective: Vince MacMahon scripted a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu submission as the finisher for the biggest WWE event of the year.

Somewhere Lou Thesz is rolling over in his grave.

www.fiveouncesofpain.com

God this rubs me the wrong way. Vince McMahon is using the art I love, ju jitsu and mma and using it in his staged male soap opera that is the WWE. The undertaker busting out Gogo’s and wearing mma gloves? Go away Vince, leave the sport I love alone, and tell Undertaker to stick to tombstones. Whats next a flying Triagle choke into a coffin to win a casket match?

According to Shogun, he thinks he will be ready to fight in the UFC again in September or October. Interestingly Dana white offered him Doctors, and special physical therapy. I love Shogun and I cant wait to see the UFC debut of the “PRIDE SHOGUN”. The Brazilian Kat who showed up to fight Forrest was a crippled imposter… It was a big conspiracy to get Forrest a title shot.

FORREST-GATE!!!! You guys can think Forrest is the #1 contender all you want……but:

I am not fooled!

Mania, or anyone else:
How does the scoring system work when lets say a great ju jitsu fighter pulls guard to take the fight to the ground. He caused the takedown, but ends up on the bottom….does the fighter on top who got pulled into guard get points for the takedown?

It has been reported through fiveouncesofpain.com that UFC and ESPN top officials have met and are in talks to create a partner ship.

After such positive articles on the UFC from ESPN, like this one: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2516201

people are now talking that the 2 sports giants maybe enter into partnership.

While Spike is the official cable home of the UFC, there is no longer an ABC Sports division, only ESPN on ABC, leading to speculation that such a partnership could lead to live events on ABC.

That story is from 2006.

According to Shogun, he thinks he will be ready to fight in the UFC again in September or October. Interestingly Dana white offered him Doctors, and special physical therapy. I love Shogun and I cant wait to see the UFC debut of the “PRIDE SHOGUN”. The Brazilian Kat who showed up to fight Forrest was a crippled imposter… It was a big conspiracy to get Forrest a title shot.

FORREST-GATE!!!! You guys can think Forrest is the #1 contender all you want……but:

I am not fooled!

His camp is anticipating a return at UFC 88…Fingers crossed everyone

Kirill Sidelnikov (VIDEO)
Here is a video of Kirill Sidelnikov’s last fight at the recent Russia vs. France M-1 Challenge. Kirill is Fedor’s prodige and is hyped up to be the next great fighter to come out of Russia. You will see Kirill come out in an attempt to touch gloves at the bell and the French Monster just starts bullrushing him with brutal haymakers. Kirill stays calm, shows Fedor and Aleks type footwork and shows that even at the young age of 19, you can stay calm under the most dangerous situations. Some of the bombs this French dude threw at him could have killed a rhino. Kirill’s chin and composure is not of a kids who was born in 1989.

Enjoy.

http://m1mixfight.com/multimedia/vid…ll_sidelnikov/

Kirill Sidelnikov (VIDEO)
Here is a video of Kirill Sidelnikov’s last fight at the recent Russia vs. France M-1 Challenge. Kirill is Fedor’s prodige and is hyped up to be the next great fighter to come out of Russia. You will see Kirill come out in an attempt to touch gloves at the bell and the French Monster just starts bullrushing him with brutal haymakers. Kirill stays calm, shows Fedor and Aleks type footwork and shows that even at the young age of 19, you can stay calm under the most dangerous situations. Some of the bombs this French dude threw at him could have killed a rhino. Kirill’s chin and composure is not of a kids who was born in 1989.

Enjoy.

http://m1mixfight.com/multimedia/vid…ll_sidelnikov/

my bad, the correct link to the fight video is:
www.m1mixfight.com/multimedia/video/category/fights/2008/3/kirill_sidelnikov/

Check tis kid out. He may very well turn into the next fedor

Gilbert Yvel is training with Randy Couture at Extreme Couture in Vegas for his up coming fight against Alistar Overeem.

I always wanted to see these 2 fight…Talk about Fireworks…The Dutch boyz know how to BANG!!!

That story is from 2006.

No its not dude, the article is dated March 31st 2008 and was posted of numerous mma sites today!

If he remains hot the only suitable match would be Silva.. and the ufc has the money… just a matter of time..

This one was a bit late. You were supposed to make this comment within the first 10 comments. Didn’t you read the article?

No its not dude, the article is dated March 31st 2008 and was posted of numerous mma sites today!

The story that comes up for me said it was last updated July 19, 2006 and is copyrighted 2006 to the Associated Press.

Plus, it mentions how Ken Shamrock is one of the UFC’s biggest stars.

A fight with Silva would be too risky for both fighters. Can you imagine silva getting a fluke kick to his temple? Or Silva dismantling Le just as he has with his opponents?

Of course, Le would need to be tested against middle-tiered UFC veterans. His ground-game is suspect and must be tested.

Regardless, I’m rooting for the guy. I’d love to see him face off with Robbie. Can he survive Robbie’s bombs? Or rather, can Robbie survive Cung’s wicked kicks?

i dont know if Le can survive Robbies bombs, but i knoow robbie cant take kicks from Le. it has been proven in the UFC by Pete Spratt. Pete kicked Robbie into submission.
if Scott Smith wins on May 31 he should fight Le.

I believe without a doubt in my mind that Anderson Silva would finish him in the 2nd round if not 1st. You have to understand that Le kicks then stops then again kicks or punches then stops. I agree that is smart fighting.

Here’s the difference between these 2 fighters. Anderson Silva usually finishes most of his fights by creating the spiders web. He will punch, then kick then punch or kick and keep it going as the other fighter never expects that.

Trust me, Anderson Silva is in a completely different category than any fighter right now. Anderson Silva would torture Le with that long reach. Le is terrible on the ground whereas Silva would easily take him down and that would be another way to finish Le.

This one was a bit late. You were supposed to make this comment within the first 10 comments. Didn’t you read the article?

lol…I like your style Joe…

if Le went to the UFC right now i would test him with Ed Short Fuse Herman or Evan Tanner, to see if he can stay off his back. IMO these 2 guys have what it takes to test Le. i wouldnt put him against top 7 guys right away.
even though it would be intresting to see himin a stand up war against Leben or Cote , it wouldnt test his other abilities.
another intresting match would be Thales Leites. this guy has got some pretty good BJJ. if not him then Martin Hitman Kamppman would also be a exciting match.he got good stand up with some submission skills.his arm triangle choke on Drew McFeddries was awesome.

Cung needs to move to WW.

“Was anyone who witnessed the first fight bored with what they saw?”

Not bored, just stupified that Frank abandoned his gameplan and chances of winning by standing up “for the fans”.

Sounds like something they might do in pro-wrestling.

my bad, the correct link to the fight video is:
www.m1mixfight.com/multimedia/video/category/fights/2008/3/kirill_sidelnikov/

Check tis kid out. He may very well turn into the next fedor

man that kid is tough as hell. IMO he proved that he can take a punch better than fedor, & i think he throws better punches too. fedor would have did his standup on tiptoes wobble, & he probably would have got cut too.

If he remains hot the only suitable match would be Silva.. and the ufc has the money… just a matter of time..

Will you mma newbies stop the Anderson talk already. Just a matter of time? I wish Dana would send Anderson to brutally destroy Cung le and Big NOG to suffocate Kimbo and destroy Elite XC for Good.

Didn’t Strikeforce put on a MW tourney a little while back. Jorge Santiago won it, he has submitted J. Horn, is a BJJ blackbelt and could submit Le if the fight hit the ground. Also, Trevor Prangley fought in the finals and he’s probably the best MW wrestler in Strikeforce. There’s two legit options.

Who cares…he is a minor leaguer who isn’t relevant and never will be…I am sure he would be destroyed by anyone in the UFC…I am sick of seeing articles about this no talent loser too!

it is you dana isnt it?

The story that comes up for me said it was last updated July 19, 2006 and is copyrighted 2006 to the Associated Press.

Plus, it mentions how Ken Shamrock is one of the UFC’s biggest stars.

go to www.fightline.com or www.dreamfighters.com i assure you its new

man that kid is tough as hell. IMO he proved that he can take a punch better than fedor, & i think he throws better punches too. fedor would have did his standup on tiptoes wobble, & he probably would have got cut too.

The Levi: This kid is going to be a moster. Kiril and Chris Horedescki are the toughest young fighters I have seen to date.

I was very disapointed in Frank. Sure he made it entertaining by just standing with him but if I just wanted to be entertained I could watch the WWE. He could have made this fight much easier on himself if he wouldn’t have kept the fight standing and he probably wouldn’t have suffered a broken arm. He forgot this was a mma bout (on purpose) and tried to out kickbox a kickboxer and who knows if he hadn’t of broke his arm he might of pulled it off. I’m just saying that he could have won this fight handily if he would have fought with his strengths and not Le’s.

go to www.fightline.com or www.dreamfighters.com i assure you its new

A few points:

- Le prepared heavily on Take Down defense against Frank. Three times in the first round Frank tried to bring him down three times and failed. You ought to see Le’s gamut of training, ie, dragging a ton of weight on a tire and chain and sprinting. Frank tried to grab him from behind and obviously weighs less than the ton of weights Le’s sprints with. Le broke out easily.

- Le is already 35yo. He is coming to the end of his career. So whoever the promoters match up with him they need to get him some opponents quickly and stop hyping him up with wasted lower class opponents.

- Forget the shamrock’s, give Le the best of the best. He is not getting any younger and he hasn’t turned any of them down.

Le is one of the best standup strike fighters to enter the MMA. Sure his ground work is questionable hence who better to fight than Frank Shamrock who is a ground master. The truth is Frank is at the end of his carrer especially with the injuries he has sustained. Frank traded with Baroni and Le only due to his knee injurys which prevents him from “shooting”. He has no choice but to stand. Face it Franks carrer is over , maybe he fights Ken but a prospect with Tito Ortiz is over.

UFC MMA politics aside -—————————————————

Le could make 170lbs a welterweight – love to see him fight in the UFC especially against Georges ST Pierre because he his going to cain Matt Serra at UFC 83.

As far as Anderson silva is concerned “YUP” this would be a tough one , one that we would all like to see. Anderson is 6ft2" while Le is only 5ft 10". Le would have a hard time kicking to his head. Anderson no doubt has the superior ground skills.

Styles make for figts so for Le “Bring it on”.

What if Sham Rock had won this fight? What are these comments gonna be?
To my perspective, a fight is a fight. Le won a fight, and he had proven that he is good for this MMA career through a straight 5-6 KOs. Shamrock is not a bad fighter, just happened to have a bad mouth, that’s all. If Le sucks then Shamrock sucks, then Tito sucks, then many of the previous UFC fights who got beaten by Shamrock suck too

It doesnt matter who he fights next.
Its his last fight on the contract and Dana White publicly stated that he wants Cung in the UFC and deservingly so.