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Roy Jones Jr. vs. Anderson Silva fight talk heats up

Silva Roy JonesProps: NBCSports.com

Quoteworthy:

"Roy likes the idea and is up for it. It's being discussed. Roy will only agree if the match takes place under the rules of boxing, and UFC would have to clear Silva's participation."

Alan Hopper, director of public relations for Don King Productions, confirms "preliminary" talks to match up UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva and boxing champion Roy Jones Jr. It would be under boxing rules and it would be at a catchweight somewhere between 185 and 170 pounds. Would UFC President Dana White green light this spectacle? I tend to think not, personally.

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lmao about time

by Automation on Mar 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roy would work Anderson, are you kidding? If it was MMA standards, then it would be the other way around… However, Anderson is no where near the level of boxing as Roy is. There is no way Anderson would be able to compete with Roy’s level of competition. For fighting fans, I would think most of you would reckognize this. Again, are you kidding me. I hope this goes throught… so I can see Anderson get his ass kicked!!!

by serious on Apr 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude are you shitting me silva s a none stop move who’s six two and knows how to use his reach advantage! Plus if you knew anything at all Silva stated out as a Pro boxer in Brazil ever before he came into the ufc. Will Silva go in and dominate no obviesly not, but there’s no way Roy Jones is going to win in the friggen second round, he also just got his ass kicked by some european kid.

by dillon Tymon on Nov 21, 2008 7:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ya he was a boxer allright..got schooled by tomato cans…workd out at freddie roachs gym…they were not impressed

by walter on Aug 14, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No chance of this happening, but would be great to see.

by Coonjob on Mar 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope the Spider destroys him.

by Cool Hand Chad on Mar 24, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if they box and its just boxing roy wins by 1st or 2nd round ko

by tb941 on Apr 29, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no it wouldnt roy is a boxer and would win easily unless he gets caught by a surprise shot. And I am a big silva fan.

by Harry Triangle on Mar 24, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana White will cock-block this because he does not want to co-promote..

Period.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Mar 24, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Automation
Mar 24th, 2008 at 3:26 pm Quote this comment
Looks like Anderson Silva vs. Roy Jones might happen after all!

I read the story too.

Hope the UFC allow Silva to do it. Don’t think its a problem from Jones’ end.

Difficult fight to call

Automation: Please read this, you will appreciate it.
“UFC’s Silva Wants Roy Jones in Boxing Match!”
http://www.ringtalk.com/

Thanks for the link.

Pedro must be a big MMA fan lol.

I still think it is a hard fight to call.

Silva is such a prolific fighter with excellent striking. However, I feel his striking is so good because he either follows up or sets up punches with kicks.

Roy Jones, I used to be and still am a great fan of his. I used to love his fighting because of his style. Some successful british fighters have copied his style a la "Prince Naseem’. Pedro refers to his glass chin but his record says it all. He is good at avoiding punches which was due to his style.

Under boxing rules, I think Silva could struggle with just punching whereas this is Jones’ forte. Then there is the weight factor…..Silva being the bigger man has got to carry more weight behind the punch.

As I said, I’m on the fence, really don’t know which way it is going.

If I was a betting man, I would have to say Jones (only under boxing rules)

Whats your thoughts John??

I like SILVA!

Start at the beginning of this thread and scroll down and read a couple of my posts. It gives you incite from one of the most prominent boxing journalists in teh history of boxing, who predict Silva over Jones and he explains why.

Some of your posts came after I made my posts, I assume because of your moderation lol.

I have read all of it now, I assume you agree with all of it?

Pedro has great "Boxing’ credentials but MMA fighter vs Boxer under boxing rules is "Virgin’ ground.

As a avid MMA follower, you must have varying opinion

by Automation on Mar 24, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what is imao and i dont think dana is up for it

by realufcinfo on Mar 24, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lmao : laughing my a$$ off

by Automation on Mar 24, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love the spider but no chance against Roy in a boxing only match. Roy is an old dude now but it’s like riding a bike when you’re that good and facing an amateur. I saw him on Pros vs Joes a while back and he keeps himself in OK shape.

Standing only (kicks, Muay Thai, etc.) spider would beat him and bad but not boxing rules. Obviously if grappling/JJ were allowed Spider would win as well.

If Anderson fights and loses I can see alot of tools that don’t know anything, running their mouths about boxers being the better fighters.

by Amac on Mar 24, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and likewise if Silva wins with people saying MMA is better then boxing, the whole debate and how rude people get about it is sickening, they are both cool sports.

by GB on Jun 21, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andeson Silva is the won who wants to fight Roy, to prove that UFC fighers are technical as well as boxers.And if they do fight it will prove that it takes much more skill to box then to get in a cage and cock fight.

by Richie on May 20, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with grappling silva would win but anything standup jones wins. especially in his prime. he is waaaaaaaaay too fast. and you know how to knee, elbow, and right kick when you grow up in a ghetto. hed get in and get out. but i agree. he probbly doesnt know how to wrestle or anything

by speed on May 22, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured this is more relevant here.

I think it is definatly a lose lose situation. Who cares anyways. I don’t want to watch boxing even if it is Anderson boxing. Not to mention how long it would hold up his next title defense. I would much rather watch him kill Okami than this bs.

I know how the fight would go anyways. They start off throwing some jabs and dancing around. After RJJ connects with one Anderson throws a kick out of instinct and it lands right on the button. RJJ is out cold. Anderson is disqualified so RJJ wins. RJJ wins the boxing match but we all know MMA is better. LOL!

by bnf on Mar 24, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dude why do mma fans always disregard boxing as a fighting art. Go try urself out in a mma fight without any boxing and lets see what u end up looking like.

by thatguyabovemeisdumb on May 1, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It takes much more skills and dedication to box. Think about it The MMA throws no bodys in with supposaly great MMA fihters and the no body throws a overhand right whith his eyes closed and lands it, boom fights over. You never see that in BOXING, because boxing takes skill and if you wanna win a match you have to be fully dedicated to the sport and train as hard as you possibly can.

by Richie on May 20, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Veteran Boxing Writer —"Anderson Silva Would Outbox Roy Jones."
For the past 23 years, Pedro Fernandez has hosted a Boxing radio show and is also the owner/editor/head-writer for ringtalk.com . Pedro also covers MMA.
Pedro Fernandez is a 4 time Golden Gloves champion.

“For Roy (Jones) to take this fight in my mind would be virtual suicide. (Anderson) Silva is bigger, stronger, knows how to put leverage on his punches, and would be willing to fight Roy at or around 180 lbs. Were he to connect on Jones’ fragile chin, it would be “lights out” for Mr. Jones. As the above subtitle says, “Betcha’ Roy won’t answer the phone!”
-Pedro Fernandez, ringtalk.com, 03/19/2008.

by john on Mar 24, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would UFC President Dana White green light this spectacle? I tend to think not, personally.

If Dana allows this fight to happen, I would be absolutely baffled and irritated. To not allow Fedor vs. Randy and then allow this would get me firmly on the Dana haters bandwagon. MMA will not gain anything from this fight. RJJ is working on 40 and past his prime. Bring on Floyd Jr., but don’t put MMA’s best against a 40 something.

There’s going to be a lot of money on the table, which might make this fight irrisistable for Dana.

by Andy on Mar 24, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I figured this is more relevant here.

I think it is definatly a lose lose situation. Who cares anyways. I don’t want to watch boxing even if it is Anderson boxing. Not to mention how long it would hold up his next title defense. I would much rather watch him kill Okami than this bs.

I know how the fight would go anyways. They start off throwing some jabs and dancing around. After RJJ connects with one Anderson throws a kick out of instinct and it lands right on the button. RJJ is out cold. Anderson is disqualified so RJJ wins. RJJ wins the boxing match but we all know MMA is better. LOL!

me too bnf.

I posted my reply on the other thread and copied it here because it is more relevant.

But its being moderated lol

by Automation on Mar 24, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate boxing, but Roy would knock him into the second row.

by VERA-LIDDELL-GSP-EDGAR on Mar 24, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Veteran Boxing Writer —"Anderson Silva Would Outbox Roy Jones."
For the past 23 years, Pedro Fernandez has hosted a Boxing radio show and is also the owner/editor/head-writer for ringtalk.com . Pedro also covers MMA.
Pedro Fernandez is a 4 time Golden Gloves champion.

“For Roy (Jones) to take this fight in my mind would be virtual suicide. (Anderson) Silva is bigger, stronger, knows how to put leverage on his punches, and would be willing to fight Roy at or around 180 lbs. Were he to connect on Jones’ fragile chin, it would be “lights out” for Mr. Jones. As the above subtitle says, “Betcha’ Roy won’t answer the phone!”
-Pedro Fernandez, ringtalk.com, 03/19/2008.

Pedro Fernandez’s credentials:
4 time Golden Gloves Champion.
Winner of a State title and a US PAL title.
Former San Francisco Police Officer.
HBO’s Emmanuel Steward: “Pedro could fight. An amateur champion many times over.”
HBO’s Harold Lederman: Pedro is “the straightest Boxing writer in history.”
HBO’s Larry Merchant: “Nobody does it quite like Pedro.”
George Foreman: “I’ve known Pedro for better than 30 years. He was at Newman’s Gym training before I turned professional. He’s been around and knows Boxing.”
Angelo Dundee (Boxing Coach of Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard): “Nobody knows Boxing like Pedro.”

by john on Mar 24, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

u r insane send me some of the pot ur smoking

by tb941 on Apr 29, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too bnf.

I posted my reply on the other thread and copied it here because it is more relevant.

But its being moderated lol

I would prefer seeing Silva destroying fighters in mma. Then again, seeing Silva beat a boxing Legend at his own game would be priceless….shutting up all the mma bashing bolxers and the rest of the mma critics who claim that there is no skill involved in mma and that it is basically, “Human Cock Fighting”.

by john on Mar 24, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

roy jones would win in boxing. its a nobrainer.

by kama kaze on Mar 24, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’d watch it.i think silva would have a good chance to win, and if he did it would maybe end the debate of “who is the better fighter”.

by Bass on Mar 24, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana White will NOT allow this fight to happen under boxing rules, in a boxing rules, being promoted by HBO. This fight would HAVE to take place during a UFC broadcast for Dana to sign off. Can you REALLY picture Don King and Dana White working together????

by ViolentMike on Mar 24, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a total waste of time. dont be suprised if b.j. calls out a. silva after he smashes through sherk.

by b.w. on Mar 24, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a total waste of time. dont be suprised if b.j. calls out a. silva after he smashes through sherk.

I think BJ wants to whoop on GSP first. But I would love to see him fight Silva at 170.

by bnf on Mar 24, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana White will NOT allow this fight to happen under boxing rules, in a boxing rules, being promoted by HBO. This fight would HAVE to take place during a UFC broadcast for Dana to sign off. Can you REALLY picture Don King and Dana White working together????

Did Jones not get sacked from HBO for his commentary job??

If it is true, don’t think Jones would want it under HBO promotion.

by Automation on Mar 24, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont want to speculate, i cant imagine Dana letting this happen. i wouldnt mind fighters going up or down in weight class to defend although it wastes time for other fighters who are waiting, but now we guy fighters going to other sports to do this, i probably wouldnt care if he had the belft

by keystone on Mar 24, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana White will NOT allow this fight to happen under boxing rules, in a boxing rules, being promoted by HBO. This fight would HAVE to take place during a UFC broadcast for Dana to sign off. Can you REALLY picture Don King and Dana White working together????

There would probably be a better chance of Hitler and Martin Luther King Jr.working together, than Dana and Don King! lol

ViolentMIke:
Rampage is a minus 275 pt favorite to forrest! Cha Ching! Big Pay day on the Horizon for me!

by john on Mar 24, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad idea IMO Silva is taking a big risk contemplating this fight but imagine if he wins boxing would want to throw Jermaine Taylor or Kelly Pavlik at Silva just to defend/even the scores

by hector on Mar 24, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Mania…why is my post moderated :(

People will scroll past it by the time its moderated lol

by Automation on Mar 24, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I said this on a previous thread and I’ll say it again. People calling the spider crazy for this just overlooks his heart as he is trying to prove something to himself and foremost, his fans. I’ll be behind him on this 100%

by linx on Mar 24, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EliteXC/STrikeforce ODDS:

Nick Diaz is a 550 pt favorite
Korean Dude is a plus 350 pt underdog

Gilbert Melendez is a 650 pt favorite
Lemley is a plus 450 underdog

Jake Sheilds is a 500 pt favorite
Drew Ficket is a plus 300 underdog

Frank Shamrock is a minus 220 pt favorite
Cung Le is a plus 180 pt underdog

interestingly:
The Florian and Lauzon fights have the same exact odds (for now)

by john on Mar 24, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rampage on Fox Sports Net show “Sports Science”
Anyone see the show tonight? They compared punching power between a hard hitting hockey player, a heavyweight boxing champion and Rampage Jackson. They all punched a heavy bag that had electronics in it measuring punching power. The other 2 guys punched at 1,300 pounds of force each while Rampage’s punch measured 1,900 pounds of force!

by john on Mar 24, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea and rampage had a running punch and the other two stood straight up and punched lol. that doesnt show anything. plus the heavyweight was a nobody and rampage is a bigshot…

by speed on May 22, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EliteXC/STrikeforce ODDS:

Nick Diaz is a 550 pt favorite
Korean Dude is a plus 350 pt underdog

Gilbert Melendez is a 650 pt favorite
Lemley is a plus 450 underdog

Jake Sheilds is a 500 pt favorite
Drew Ficket is a plus 300 underdog

Frank Shamrock is a minus 220 pt favorite
Cung Le is a plus 180 pt underdog

interestingly:
The Florian and Lauzon fights have the same exact odds (for now)

Jake Sheilds all day. borrow from your 401k for this one.

by kama kaze on Mar 24, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rampage on Fox Sports Net show “Sports Science”
Anyone see the show tonight? They compared punching power between a hard hitting hockey player, a heavyweight boxing champion and Rampage Jackson. They all punched a heavy bag that had electronics in it measuring punching power. The other 2 guys punched at 1,300 pounds of force each while Rampage’s punch measured 1,900 pounds of force!

I cant wait to see how Forrest blocks a Rampage punch containing 1,900 pounds of force with his face.

My Prediction: Forrest goes Splat, all over the Canvas!

by john on Mar 24, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i seen the show but the boxer was chris byrd and yes he did have a share of the heavyweight title but seriously i would take layla ali’s punching power over his.i agree rampage will work forrest

by tb941 on Apr 29, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i seen the show but the boxer was chris byrd and yes he did have a share of the heavyweight title but seriously i would take layla ali’s punching power over his.i agree rampage will work forrest

by tb941 on Apr 29, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rampage on Fox Sports Net show “Sports Science”
Anyone see the show tonight? They compared punching power between a hard hitting hockey player, a heavyweight boxing champion and Rampage Jackson. They all punched a heavy bag that had electronics in it measuring punching power. The other 2 guys punched at 1,300 pounds of force each while Rampage’s punch measured 1,900 pounds of force!

I saw that a couple weeks ago. He summons all his power from his ass…lol

by Andy on Mar 24, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ViolentMIke:
Rampage is a minus 275 pt favorite to forrest! Cha Ching! Big Pay day on the Horizon for me!

? You’re betting on Forrest?

by skatanicus on Mar 24, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Dana allows this fight to happen, I would be absolutely baffled and irritated. To not allow Fedor vs. Randy and then allow this would get me firmly on the Dana haters bandwagon. MMA will not gain anything from this fight. RJJ is working on 40 and past his prime. Bring on Floyd Jr., but don’t put MMA’s best against a 40 something.

There’s going to be a lot of money on the table, which might make this fight irrisistable for Dana.

get off the dana bandwagon buddy, dana threw all the money that he could to sign fedor. fedor decided not to sign with the UFC because of their demands (which I agree with him). fedor is not running away from competition, as the HW division in the UFC is not really great. randy left the UFC because he is a scared old little man with a 16-8 record and doesn’t want to face big nog. randy doesn’t want to fight fedor, he knows that what he is doing is delaying an idea that will never ever, ever happen. he is trying to get out of a 4 fight contract by fighting twice and using fedor as an excuse to not fight again. “oh, the only fight that makes sense for me right now is fedor” cry me a f****** river. this soap operah is done with, ppl keep talking about it in different threads that has nothing to do with it and it’s a has been story. randy is a coward, otherwise he’d man up and take care of his contract and fight big nog. end of story…

by linx on Mar 24, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rampage on Fox Sports Net show “Sports Science”
Anyone see the show tonight? They compared punching power between a hard hitting hockey player, a heavyweight boxing champion and Rampage Jackson. They all punched a heavy bag that had electronics in it measuring punching power. The other 2 guys punched at 1,300 pounds of force each while Rampage’s punch measured 1,900 pounds of force!

I heard Rampage on a local radio show where I live talking about this show after he did it. He said they didn’t really explain what he was supposed to do. The point is he said he didn’t even punch the bag as hard as he could.

I sure hope my boy Forrest is bobbing and weaving!

by bnf on Mar 24, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anderson silva is an A class STRIKER but just because the man is a muay thai machine doesnt translate directly to boxing. Everything is different stance, movement ,and training in general . kickboxing focuses a lot on using your punches to set up kicks or move in for elbows/knees not saying they kickboxing doesnt focus a lot on punching but muay thai is meant to be really devistating so like i said punches and used a lot to set up more damamaging strikes. look at boxing you can slip punches without having to worry about getting knee’d in the head or kick all a boxer trains his whole career is throwing punches dodging punches hes never training for the ground\kicks,elbows,knees think of all the extra time a boxer spends in his career with punching
as much as i love anderson silva he could never beat a good professional boxer whose on top of his game, if RJJ cames ready to box i dont think he can lose.

by DManC on Mar 24, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Dana allows this fight to happen, I would be absolutely baffled and irritated. To not allow Fedor vs. Randy and then allow this would get me firmly on the Dana haters bandwagon. MMA will not gain anything from this fight. RJJ is working on 40 and past his prime. Bring on Floyd Jr., but don’t put MMA’s best against a 40 something.

There’s going to be a lot of money on the table, which might make this fight irrisistable for Dana.


Dana White should really look into allowing this.

1. It would show that he is not opposed to other types of combat cross promotion for the UFC. That Couture n’ Fedor is a different circumstance.

2. It could brighten the spotlight of the UFC onto the mainstream.

3. The more fights surrounding MMA fighters the better. Even this, who cares who wins?

by THORAZINE on Mar 24, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if silva wants to fight a boxer and dana says no all he needs to do is see out his ufc contract then take the fight

the money he would get paid would be more than enough to retire on and i cant see the ufc snubbing him coming back win or lose

its a fight id love to see AS easily has the 1 punch KO in him and i think hed fare well in a clinch

this has the potential to be as big a money spinning fight as PBF as a whole heap of mma fans will pay to see it

by nate diaz on Mar 24, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a total waste of time. dont be suprised if b.j. calls out a. silva after he smashes through sherk.

Silva would destroy penn. Fighters dont beat silva these days they just try to survive and not get their face mashed like a potato.
He will lose eventually, but not for a long time and certainly not to bj penn.

by Harry Triangle on Mar 24, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There would probably be a better chance of Hitler and Martin Luther King Jr.working together, than Dana and Don King! lol

ViolentMIke:
Rampage is a minus 275 pt favorite to forrest! Cha Ching! Big Pay day on the Horizon for me!


Hope u dont like money cause forrest is gonna get burned to the ground. No way does he even make past the second round. Page by knockout.

by Harry Triangle on Mar 24, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope this happens but im sure dana will F it up again like usual

by hardys4 on Mar 24, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The chances of this fight actually happeneing are slim to none. The chances of Anderson pulling off the win, even slimmer. Thats like putting John Mayer in a piano competition against Beethoven. If the payouts for Jones are minus 300 or better, I’m going to put my house up on the line.

by c-war on Mar 24, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Silva is unbeatable, and his head is getting to be the size of Texas.

by parks1 on Mar 24, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I figured this is more relevant here.

I think it is definatly a lose lose situation. Who cares anyways. I don’t want to watch boxing even if it is Anderson boxing. Not to mention how long it would hold up his next title defense. I would much rather watch him kill Okami than this bs.

I know how the fight would go anyways. They start off throwing some jabs and dancing around. After RJJ connects with one Anderson throws a kick out of instinct and it lands right on the button. RJJ is out cold. Anderson is disqualified so RJJ wins. RJJ wins the boxing match but we all know MMA is better. LOL!

I also tend to think of it in terms of a no-win situation. Sure, MMA gets some more mainstream exposure through this, and Anderson sets himself up for a nice payday, but if Silva wins, boxing pundits can easily defend the loss by saying Jones is a fighter past his prime, whereas if Silva loses, expect to hear the chorus of ‘Boxing is better than MMA’ louder than ever. Not to mention like already stated, that it would hold up the MW division with their champ preparing for a fight outside their sport…

by Jase on Mar 24, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope u dont like money cause forrest is gonna get burned to the ground. No way does he even make past the second round. Page by knockout.

Are u retarded or something! I am betting Rampage all the way. By 2009 all the fans will realize that Rampage is as dominant in his division as Anderson Silva is at middleweight!

by john on Mar 24, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if silva wants to fight a boxer and dana says no all he needs to do is see out his ufc contract then take the fight

the money he would get paid would be more than enough to retire on and i cant see the ufc snubbing him coming back win or lose

its a fight id love to see AS easily has the 1 punch KO in him and i think hed fare well in a clinch

this has the potential to be as big a money spinning fight as PBF as a whole heap of mma fans will pay to see it

Could Anderson Silva whip out a spinning back fist in a boxing fight? Or a superman punch?

by john on Mar 24, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NO WAY! I don’t want to see an mma fighter agree to fight under those rules. How does this make sense to anybody?

How about two fights, One under Boxing rules and one under MMA rules. At least this way we would get a fair representation of how a quality pro boxer would handle an mma fighter.

Boxing fight: Jones wins, maybe by decision. Either way Silva makes a good showing.

MMA Fight: Silva wins, Jones his hurt, no wait he’s hurt real bad!

by Jrandolph on Mar 24, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention like already stated, that it would hold up the MW division with their champ preparing for a fight outside their sport…

Who cares, it’s not like there’s a clear number 1 contender right now. We can have these MW fights in the meantime:

Hendo vs. Franklin
Cote vs. Okami

by Pat on Mar 24, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why wouldn’t Dana White allow this to happen? He’s mentioned having Sean Sherk fight Mayweather Jr. before. This would be huge for the UFC if it happened because they have nothing to lose. If Silva loses, he wasn’t supposed to win because he’s not a pro boxer. On the other hand, if Silva wins, he puts MMA on the level of Boxing in the public arena where people will realize that this isn’t human cockfighting. It’s actually a skill. At that point, maybe HBO would pony up and decide that they will do MMA programming like what was once discussed.

by Glenn on Mar 24, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I also tend to think of it in terms of a no-win situation. Sure, MMA gets some more mainstream exposure through this, and Anderson sets himself up for a nice payday, but if Silva wins, boxing pundits can easily defend the loss by saying Jones is a fighter past his prime, whereas if Silva loses, expect to hear the chorus of ‘Boxing is better than MMA’ louder than ever. Not to mention like already stated, that it would hold up the MW division with their champ preparing for a fight outside their sport…

That’s a very good point. I didn’t really realize that was the case, but I definitely agree with you. Although, I’m one of the idiots who would rather see Anderson duke it out in boxing than see him fight Yushin Okami. Okami might even give him a little trouble, I’m just not at all interested in seeing that fight. I’d rather jump on the Silva bandwagon once more (even though I’ve been doubting his abilities, despite having bet on him to beat Dan Henderson- it’s confusing, I know) and I’ll say that Anderson would do very well against Roy Jones. RJJ was one of the greatest boxers of all time in his prime, and he’s always going to bring some of that into the ring. That being said, Anderson is as much a boxer as a lot of the people that Roy Jones has fought before in his career, and I think he was willing to issue the challenge because he knows he has an edge.

I’m in the minority here for sure, but I really think it would be a sick fight. I think Silva would probably win, a lot of boxing fans would make the excuse that Roy Jones is over the hill, but a fair portion of them would come to understand that a lot of MMA fighters know how to box. Hell, some of them ARE boxers, so it’s a pretty obvious realization that for some reason people have yet to come to.

I think the argument is a bit silly because it’s a lot like asking whether or not professional kickboxers could hang with professional boxers. Obviously some of them have very strong boxing; it’s an incredibly important part of kickboxing, and MMA, so, yes, some of the world’s best boxers are martial artists and kickboxers. And, no, they are not, overall, better at the sport of boxing than boxers.

by skatanicus on Mar 24, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roy Jones J.r.would k.o the spider,with his left hand end of story!

by just tired on Mar 24, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RJJ is a great boxer no doubt but silva has a chin of stone, just ask hendo

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by john on Mar 24, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Dana White would necessarily be opposed to having a UFC fighter box. The publicity would be great. The UFC would take a cut in some form. The UFC might even want to promote the fight. Don’t know the logistics of switching from a Octagon to a ring within 15 minutes..

This is completely different from Fedor-Couture. In this scenario, the UFC would be allowing Couture to bring attention and legitimacy to another MMA organization that competes with the UFC. Not going to happen.

I think Dana’s concerns are more likely:
- Will a Silva loss damage the UFC’s reputation
- Will a Silva win entice him to pursue boxing full time due its more lucrative payday.

by mmamaniaReader on Mar 24, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I cant wait to see how Forrest blocks a Rampage punch containing 1,900 pounds of force with his face.

My Prediction: Forrest goes Splat, all over the Canvas!


I saw another one on youtube with Rampage, but they put his punch against the foce behind two sumos clashing lol.

by Toms Bombs on Mar 24, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see this as a big lose situation for Dana. UFC shouldn’t have to promote it as long as Zuffa gets a cut of the PPV buys I think its a worthy promotion.

All Silva really has to do to have credibility in a loss is to not get knocked out within the early rounds. He is facing a former world champion after all. If he wins thats fucking gangbusters for the UFC and Silva. Beating a Hall of Fame boxer of Roy Jones Jr caliber is huge. Doesn’t even matter that he is past his prime.

If Silva somehow wins this match it puts the ball in MMA’s court. UFC will have all the leverage of proving MMA is the premier combat sport in the world and will possibly lead to a boxer having to cross over to MMA and there will be the big huge bucks for the UFC.

I don’t see this is anything more than a big reward low risk situation for the UFC and Silva.

by Matt on Mar 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana White will cock-block this because he does not want to co-promote..

Period.

I don’t even know why people are talking about this. It will NEVER happen so long as Silva is in the UFC. I’d bet the house on it.

by The African Assassin on Mar 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this would be great exposure for the UFC if they could make this fight happen. Win or lose as long as Silva kept it competitive it would open a lot of peoples eyes who don’t normally watch MMA that these are legit athletes every bit as talented in there sports as top boxers.

by GSP4Prez on Mar 24, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This would be awesome, but unfortunatly it won’t happen. Dana will not, under no circumstances, cross promote with boxing. Tough to say how it would go down if it actually happened. I’ve got to pick Roy via Decision. Silva would win the early rounds, but experiance will weather Roy through the early storm and he’d “out pretty” Silva. To bad it won’t happen anytime soon.

by DB on Mar 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw dana would only let this happen under mma rules

by matt on Mar 24, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana White will cock-block this because he does not want to co-promote..

Period.

If he does not allow this to happen, Dana White needs to be assassinated.

by Lycan on Mar 24, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This match under Boxing Rules would not help MMA. It would be good for boxing.

by chrisTX on Mar 25, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There would probably be a better chance of Hitler and Martin Luther King Jr.working together, than Dana and Don King! lol

ViolentMIke:
Rampage is a minus 275 pt favorite to forrest! Cha Ching! Big Pay day on the Horizon for me!


Who are you taking…Rampage or Forrest? I don’t think Siva has a great shot against Jones… but check out the odds…I had to drop a few bucks on Silva… Bodog has the line up in the boxing section.

by RAWbert on Mar 25, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva is 1400… for those odds.. I’ll take a risk.

by RAWbert on Mar 25, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva is 1400… for those odds.. I’ll take a risk.

..thats plus 1400

by RAWbert on Mar 25, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be great for the UFC. They’d get to promote to all sorts of fans. I think Dana will do it personally. He’ll love the attention. I also think that Silva will do well too. He’s just so darn accurate and powerful, he’s got a hell of a chance.

Plus, Silva never gets hit…hard. It’s like everything glances off, or he knows that it’s coming and steps back in time. It’s hard for me to imagine someone actually getting through his insane defense.

Here’s why Dana will do it. If Silva wins, the UFC get’s tons of press and publicity.

by dave on Mar 25, 2008 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to show the difference between boxing and MMA, I believe roy jones would train his ass off for this fight, and he even enjoys MMA. Even at 38, i would rather take a punch from Silva than from Jones. I truly believe RJJ was the true p4p best fighter of the 90’s. I mean, have you seen his fights? He was brutal!!!

Dana used to be in boxing and you would have to be a fool to put your mma amateur boxer in with a man who held ALL middle weight boxing championship belts simultaneously. I agree with “just tired”. RJJ has the most brutal left hand in history. This fight doesn’t make it out of the first round. Also, RJJ moved up from middle weight to beat Ruiz at super heavy weight. Nuff said, thread over!

by javster on Mar 25, 2008 1:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this fight will prolly never happen

by dcsoldier187 on Mar 25, 2008 2:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Silva would do really well. He has a chin,hit with 4 oz gloves not 12 oz gloves. Roy Jones was a great boxer but he was a champion in a division of nobodies. I am not trying to take anything away from JOnes but he never faced a stacked weight class like De La Hoyas weigth class in boxing prime with Bernard Hopkins and Ceasar Trinidad and so on in that weight class. Jones best opponent was Antonio Tarver. Who he got a decision on and ko’d the next time. I think Silva go the distance if given the opportunity and even give him a chance to win.

 Did anyone hear comments by Tarver on the Ton Diaz and Ian Beckles Show on 620wdae in the South east? Tarver said although he like mma, that MMA fighters are able to take punches. Claiming that when you get knocked down, that is when the fight actually begins. But that is the difference between getting hit with 4oz glozes and 12 oz gloves. 4 oz gloves KO u the Fuck out, where 12 oz gloves give you the soft KO (the shaken but not stirred feeling). I hate how boxers and boxing fans always say that boxing is an art form and mma is not. Are they not both based tactical based fighting systems? I realize that in mma there are many ways to win, were in boxing it is just your hands, but that is what in my mind makes the defensive end of mma so much more complicated than bosing.

by Da Monkey on Mar 25, 2008 7:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a total waste of time. dont be suprised if b.j. calls out a. silva after he smashes through sherk.

B.J. is not ready for Silva, Matt Serra is not ready for Silva, GSP is not ready for Silva, who is. Anderson is the best P4P MMA fighter in the world and after Hendo, Rampage is the only true test left for him in my opinion. I don’t see Anderson beating Roy Jones in a boxing match but he would kill him in a MMA match.

by jimmy_dean on Mar 25, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This will never happen so i wish it would stop getting so many threads.

Dana will never in a million years let Silva his no1 p4p fighter go and box. I cannot believe everyone is getting so excited about it.

If you add that to the fact that Roy Jones has got nothing to prove and everything to loose. Add that to the fact has got unlimited $$‘s in the bank you can’t see his side putting their hand up either.

I repeat this will never ever ever happen.

by Nick J on Mar 25, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who are you taking…Rampage or Forrest? I don’t think Siva has a great shot against Jones… but check out the odds…I had to drop a few bucks on Silva… Bodog has the line up in the boxing section.

Rampage is the easiest pick of the year. I am wagering some $ on Rampage. This is as easy as a bet as BJ over Stevenson and GSP over Hughes!

by john on Mar 25, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

..thats plus 1400

WHAAAAAT?!!!!???!!! Those odds are INSANE. A $10 bet on Anderson would win you $140. WOW

by ViolentMike on Mar 25, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dana white will not clear it because he is a shit talking beotch. He wants boxers to come to MMA, and calls them out, so why does he not make the first move(throw the 1st punch) and send one of his guys over to boxing in hopes that boxers will eventually come to MMA. Dana is a PUNK!!!!

by Dababymaker on Mar 25, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it would be foolish for Silva to stake his reputation on a boxing mathch with RJ and it certainly wouldn’t show that a boxer is a better fighter. MMA is much closer to a real fight and it shows how limited boxing really is…it would be far better to let the boxers fight under the MMA rules and see if they can prove themselves.

by Mike on Mar 25, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats stupid…

Why go outside a MMA organization. Anderson risks his air of unbeatableness even if it is in boxing rules. UFC would lose cause A. Silva would go straight to boxing and make a huge pay day. RJJ risks a crap load losing to a non-boxer… Thats setting yourself up bigtime.

It wont happen and is silly to even consider it. Unless Silva does it after a contract expires…

by Yikes on Mar 25, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No chance this is happening. Dana was scared $hitless of Fedor coming to the UFC and still wanting to fight in Sambo competitions in fear of him losing and devaluing the UFC name. Do you really think he’s going to let someone as marketable at Silva box someone and get his head beaten in? I love Silva but there’s no chance he can stand up to Roy Jones Jr (despite his age) ina boxing match. Just as Roy Jones could never compete in an MMA match.

by Dugout on Mar 25, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats stupid…

Why go outside a MMA organization. Anderson risks his air of unbeatableness even if it is in boxing rules. UFC would lose cause A. Silva would go straight to boxing and make a huge pay day. RJJ risks a crap load losing to a non-boxer… Thats setting yourself up bigtime.

It wont happen and is silly to even consider it. Unless Silva does it after a contract expires…

Absolutely agreed!

I heard there are talks with the Iceman fighting Rambo. But Rambo will only be allowed 1 machine-gun not 2, and his machete will can not exceed 17 inches.

COMMON!

by SmokeRogan on Mar 25, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dumb move on silva’s part, he has so much to lose and nothing to gain.

by nathan on Mar 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys are crazy that think Silva can handle Roy. First off lets get something straight(i am a silva nut i love him) however roy imo is the most talented fighter ever to compete. He took every single weight class and people can say that he did not fight anyone well I have every fight of his and like tyson he fought opponents with 25-0 records usually and ended them fast. He called out lennox and tyson who wouldn’t fight him and made a foolish mistake in going down in a month to fight Tarver. He should have made Tarver come to his weight. He does not have a weak chin that is a large misconception. In fact if you have his fights or read about him what he was known for was allowing you to hit him a few times un phased and then blast away. He was weak in Tarver 1 and still won. He got Ko’d twice after and was still weak and too cocky. After that he fought Tarver again and had they fought in their primes Roy would have killed him but his Ko’s were in his head and he wouldn’t finish Tarver. Screw pros and joes, i went and saw Jones fight in Mississipi against Tony Hanshaw and he whooped his ass old school style. Coming down in weight was very hard for him but he is back down and no longer weak. He was back to himself allowing punches to come in and moving them away and then drilling hanshaw with 4 hooks in one second. Aside from that he whooped Trinidad and took all of his shots proving his chin again. So his chin weakness is over now that his body has adjusted. Does he have his legs anymore? No. The other thing you should know is they measured RJ’s hand speed and Mayweather’s hand speed and Jones at his age is still 4 times faster than floyd despite the pretty little things roger does with the pads to make him seem like the flash. Silva is amazing. He could beat most middleweights and light heavys in pro boxing. He has a ko you can youtube that was a pro fight. He looked good. But watch that and watch Roy jones now or then. His hands are just as fast and he put Tito and Hanshaw who was undefeated and mayweather trained on their asses hard after taking many shots. He is much faster and though lighter most of the time truly a bigger man and remember was at 203 whoopin a 240 ruiz and calling out any heavyweight. Silva needs his grappling and amazing kicks and things he can’t do in a boxing ring to get that edge. In a cage i’d give a nut to see them at their primes fight, but in a ring now then whenever roy will beat him so bad it would embarass silva. but i do think silva would be a nightmare for tarver who beat jones. thats how boxing is. silva would come in relentless at tarver and his awkwardness would throw off the so called magic man. but put him in there with roy at 170-205 and jones by ko or easy decision with knockdowns. Silva has a hell of a chin so I won’t say ko for sure. I think silva can beat rampage, kimbo, and most boxers for sure if he set himself to just that. however jumping in with rjj and boxing he will lose. i would prefer to see him go in and start with tarver who they hold so high and beat that ass then step up to roy after he gets his instincts into a boxing mode. I wanna see it so bad but Roy would kill him and I like them Silva too much. I love Roy as well and think its ridic how he was the fighter of the decade probably best p4p ever belts in middle to heavy, 1 of 2 people, and he gets hated on cause tarver ko’d him when he was weak and cocky. Silva fans take nothing away from him he can take anyone the cage has to offer size doesn’t matter. He can handle most boxers that are out there. But not speed like RJJ. Floyd would give him trouble just with his speed and ability to avoid clenches. And he is waaaaaaaay lighter.

by Dan on Mar 26, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely agreed!

I heard there are talks with the Iceman fighting Rambo. But Rambo will only be allowed 1 machine-gun not 2, and his machete will can not exceed 17 inches.

COMMON!


Silva has fought pro already and ko’d in the first round. It is easy to find. He is an excellent boxer so he would not hurt himself, its just in his favor to start with lesser and certainly slower competition. MMA handspeed and boxing handspeed when your talking Roy Jones is not even close. I’ve seen them both live most fighters and nothing is like RJJ still. His hands have not slowed a bit they just arent’ able to keep going like they used to. Let silva take on the winner of the tarver fight. He matches up well attacking a guy that claims to be the best counter puncher and he can fight Tarer southpaw. He gets the credibility cause Tarver beat Jones, then we have a fight and we don’t have to look down on anyone in my head. Still I say get Silva on Tv every week. Kimbo next week so people can learn, then Rampage(though I love him), and then Lesnar to quiet that. The only guy in a cage I see taking him is Cung Le if he can handle Shamrock ground game. If not good night. In a ring the only light heavy that can handle RJJ is tarver and its just because he ko’d him and RJJ will never come in enough. IF he had more heart he’d destroy him. I though Floyd had no heart. Then I saw Hatton beating him up for the first time ever and he became a pit bull and fucked him up. I love hatton btw. Never thought he could beat floyd but i knew he would shut him up a bit. And he did. If Roy could just decide to finish someone and risk a little he would still be p4p the best, his legs are not that shakey i sat ringside in Mississippi as he didn’t even sit during round breaks dancing for his home crowd that had driven in. He is far from over the hill.

by Dan on Mar 26, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As for gloves, think about the fact that Jones hands move way faster with a giant 8-120z glove compared to Silva in a small 2-40z mma glove. I don’t care how padded the gloves are, you have to get hit to get hurt and I just don’t see Roy getting hit

by Dan on Mar 26, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Obviously Roy will win in a boxing match. If he put on the 4oz gloves and agreed to the UFC rules Silva would dismantle Roy quickly. This is a horrible idea.

Why would Silva want to even consider this crap? Go into RJJ’s arena and then get his ass kicked for the whole world to see? If anything he should have tried to bait RJJ into an MMA fight… however Roy ain’t stupid, he knows damn well what would happen to him.

I’d rather see Cung Le and Silva go at it. I wouldn’t pay a dollar to watch RJJ destroy Silva, I’m a big fan of Silva and RJJ was legendary in his prime. It’s just cringeworthy.

by Ron on Mar 31, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with those 4oz mitts. it would be a bad night for roy

by note on Apr 6, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

roy!!somebody that really knows how to punch…(roy )could kill somebody with those tiny gloves.with a klitchko it would be murder

by walter on Aug 14, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is so funny people are entertaining this fight in there minds. it may be fun to talk about..but truth is,THIS FIGHT WILL NEVER HAPPEN! EVER!! dana is not gonna put his best fighter in a boxing ring and take the chance of roy hurting silvas name. if silva looses and returns back to the octagon,he wont be the same anderson silva and his reputation will be shot and it will make the ufc look bad. if im dana white,im saying no chance in hell this fight is happening unless of course roy wants to make a mma debut with anderson then fuck ya,silva would crush roy jones jr so hardcore. but seriously,people talking about this fight is way out of line,its not happening.

by rob on Apr 8, 2008 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roy would work Anderson, and I can’t believe there’s people who would even think that it would be the other way around. Are you all aware of Roy Jones’ accomplishments and where he’s came from to get to his level of contention? I know as everyone else does that Anderson is the one to beat, and so far no one has been able to sweep him, but come on… Seriously…

by serious on Apr 12, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

are these people serious? i think it would be great to see, but no competition for jones. that’s like silva challenging an olympic wreslter to a match!!! although silva is a good wrestler(for mma), he is not elite in that sport!! he would get worked! however, i’d love to see it! hope white allows it!

by worm on Apr 18, 2008 1:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I could honestly see Silva puting some real pressure on Jones and either knocking Jones out in the 1st or 2nd round, but Jones has a great chance as the fight progresses. I think it would be great for either sport. What I’d love to see is Mayweather come in against the prodigy and get his cocky ass whooped!!!! I hate Mayweather and wanted Hatton to beat him, but that’s fighting. For Mayweather to talk shit about MMA makes me think that he got dillusions of grandeur knocking out the “big show” in a fixed wwf match. I think Mayweather vs. Penn or even Faber would show an entirely different outcome. I could see it now, Penn with a flying knee to Mayweathers cocky ass look on his face ending his night like he did Sherks. or taking him down and bloodying up his face like he did Stevenson, either way BJ would definitely be licking some Mayweather blood afterword!

by haglnuts on Jun 6, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

silva smokes jones in any ring and gsp works rjjr. royally anywhere. gsp for governor of new jersey.

by will "rpg" nevard on Feb 2, 2009 4:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Roy Jones Jr. would smash Anderson Silva. Don’t kid yourself that Anderson’s reach would give him some type of advantage. Roy Jones Jr. is 10 times the boxer the ‘Spider’ could ever hope to be. It would be 2 rounds of show boating until Anderson would take his final leaping right hook from Jones Jr. and hit the canvas.

Anderson would smash Roy in an MMA bout I’ll give you that.

by TBiz on Apr 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this fight might actually happen cuz ,while dana white might not want it to, anderson silva might retire from the UFC in the next couple years. then he cant be stopped. but in a boxing match i would think roy will win. i hope it will be a good fight if it does happen though

by steve on Jun 22, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think anderson would win at the end come on the hits he takes in ufc with those gloves hardly even patned and his speed to avoid the hits anderson has way quicker footwork then roy jones jr. tend to mind that mma has boxing in it come on people. thats why its mixed martial arts. boxing ia rigged anyways half the fights are fixed. anderson would win probaly in 6 rounds.

by manny on Aug 17, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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