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Anderson Silva doesn't 'really think much of anything of [Yushin] Okami'

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"I feel it was a cheap, cowardly way of winning. People that were there saw that he was in the condition to come back and keep fighting, and he didn't.... It wasn't really a fight."

The topic of Yushin Okami appears to get the normally laid-back UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva a bit heated. Is it possible that a pissed off Silva is capable of inflicting more damage on his opponents? It's possible ... and so is a rematch with Okami sometime soon. Yikes.

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How does he know that Okami could continue? looks can be decieving(SP?)

especially with a head injury.

by Matt A on Mar 12, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that Okami has a chance against Silva. Okami has a good ground game and has vicious ground and pound. Silva is the better fighter, but Okami has a chance and could pull off an upset. It is not impossible for Okami to win; unlikely yes, but not impossible.

by Red on Mar 12, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Silva is in a league of his own just like GSP in WW division no one could come close to these guys. I like to see GSP sometime in the future beef up and challenge Silva. Now that would be something. Okami I respect but don’t see him surviving pass round one.

by TKO on Mar 12, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami is screwed. I didn’t he was really hurt that bad in the that fight either. Red…the same thing you just said about Okami was the same thing everyone said about Hendo. It isn’t happening unless some crazy freak thing happens that night. KO late first or early second.

by Andy on Mar 12, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami is screwed. I didn’t he was really hurt that bad in the that fight either. Red…the same thing you just said about Okami was the same thing everyone said about Hendo. It isn’t happening unless some crazy freak thing happens that night. KO late first or early second.

I don’t know what fight you saw, but Hendo wasn’t really losing that fight. He clearly won the first round, and the second could have gone either way, knowing the judges. Hendo got caught, simple as that. Of course I don’t take anything away from Anderson, I think he’s one of the top fighters, without a doubt. But unless Silva submitts him, Hendo wins 3 out of 5 times.

by Toms Bombs on Mar 12, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No one thought Serra would beat GSP either. Lucky shot, cheap shot, hard hands, call it what you want, Serra still won the fight. Don’t talk shit or it may come back to haunt you.

by VNDK8 on Mar 12, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

""Is it possible that a pissed off Silva is capable of inflicting more damage on his opponents?"" – ummmm.. yes?

by kama kaze on Mar 12, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this talk from Silva is just part of the UFC marketing to make something more of this fight than it is. Silva is going to blow through Okami and everyone knows it so how do you sell the fight? Easy, with a little trash talk and a little controversy. That’s all this is. That being said, I still can’t see this being a main event. Maybe put it as a co-main event on the Rampage/Griffin card. That might work.

by Getrawbc on Mar 12, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Silva acting like such a punk toward Okami? He’s the one who delivered the illegal kick, how do you blame Okami for you not knowing the rules? Plus, after he illegally kicked Okami in the face, he fights with the ref like he’s trying to get at a downed Okami to hit him again! I’m wondering if Silva is really as humble and respectful as he’s often made out to be.

by cmon on Mar 12, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The UFC probably asked Silva to say that to beef up what, in my opinion, is an easy win for Silva. Okami went three rounds with Mike Swick, Anderson will probably destroy him within two rounds.

by James S on Mar 12, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that Okami has a chance against Silva. Okami has a good ground game and has vicious ground and pound. Silva is the better fighter, but Okami has a chance and could pull off an upset. It is not impossible for Okami to win; unlikely yes, but not impossible.

A chance of what? Getting KTFO? If that’s what you meant, than I’d agree.

Also, Henderson may have won the first round, but we’ve seen Silva take some time to warm up in the past. I completely disagree that Hendo wins more times out of 5, 10 or 100 than Silva. I’m not sure who you guys have been watching, but Silva is incredibly techinical and accurate with his strikes. Add that little BJJ black belt to the mix, well, I don’t want to say that he is unstoppable ’cause anything can happen, but DAMN!! The guy is an amazing fighter.

by Freddy on Mar 12, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the UFC needs to sign the little guy from pride that submitted anderson silva with a, made for the movies, heel hook. i bet he could submit silva again. i wonder why no one has learned anything from that fight and tried to submit silva with a leg submission of some sort

by duece 4 on Mar 12, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

UFC did sign him, Ryo Chonan fought at UFC78.

by shinjo5 on Mar 12, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the UFC needs to sign the little guy from pride that submitted anderson silva with a, made for the movies, heel hook. i bet he could submit silva again. i wonder why no one has learned anything from that fight and tried to submit silva with a leg submission of some sort

Thats a good point, havent seen anyone try any sort of submission on this guy… besides Travis Lutters arm bar “attempt” and i use that word loosely

by brendan on Mar 12, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the UFC needs to sign the little guy from pride that submitted anderson silva with a, made for the movies, heel hook. i bet he could submit silva again. i wonder why no one has learned anything from that fight and tried to submit silva with a leg submission of some sort

Ryo Chonan already signed with the UFC. His debut against Karo went to a decision that Karo won unanimously. I admit the flying heel hook was nice but he definitely wouldn’t win in a rematch against Silva. He has another fight scheduled soon, I forget who. And for you wondering why no one has tried to submit Silva, they can’t even get pass his stand up w/o getting rocked.

by vin on Mar 12, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont understand silva’s comment, the ref stopped the fight, i dont think yushin was asked if he wanted to go on, silva will probabaly win, but i hope yushin pulls the upset

by fighter879 on Mar 12, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If this fight happens Anderson Silva vs Yushin Okami, Okami will win via knockout (knee) \late 2’ed round

by Jon Pinch on Mar 12, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve only seen a pissed-off Anderson Silva about twice.

1. Right after getting the DQ against Okami.
2. Before the Travis Lutter fight, he was pissed because Lutter screwed him out of a title defense.

The worst we’ve seen AS in the Octagon was the Lutter fight. Yeah, he was never in any real danger despite what people say, and he finished Lutter at “his own game,” but AS wasn’t as crisp in this fight. Maybe he’s better when he’s not really angry.

by Popetastic on Mar 12, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve only seen a pissed-off Anderson Silva about twice.

1. Right after getting the DQ against Okami.
2. Before the Travis Lutter fight, he was pissed because Lutter screwed him out of a title defense.

The worst we’ve seen AS in the Octagon was the Lutter fight. Yeah, he was never in any real danger despite what people say, and he finished Lutter at “his own game,” but AS wasn’t as crisp in this fight. Maybe he’s better when he’s not really angry.

He would have been in danger if Lutter had longer arms lol.

by Toms Bombs on Mar 12, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And how was it a cheap and cowardly way of winning? He did make the illegal move, not Okami. Not saying Anderson is a coward or anything lol, just that he shouldn’t talk like that if he’s the one who threw the up kick to his downed opponent.

by Toms Bombs on Mar 12, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No one thought Serra would beat GSP either. Lucky shot, cheap shot, hard hands, call it what you want, Serra still won the fight. Don’t talk shit or it may come back to haunt you.

This site is , in a way, for the purposes of talking shit. Topics are posted and people give there opinions. It just happens that a majority of the people have the opinion that Silva destroys Okami. Don’t let it ruin your day.

by James S on Mar 12, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

okami is in alot of trouble, a pissed off Anderson wil destroy him in 2 rounds.okami couldnt finish M.Quick Swick,and Swick was a under sized Mwt. the only time he has finished was against an old evan tanner,inexperienced kalib starnes & unranked rory singer.the rest of his UFC fights went the distance.his lay n pray doesnt work against top 5 fighters.

by the levi on Mar 12, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Silva acting like such a punk toward Okami? He’s the one who delivered the illegal kick, how do you blame Okami for you not knowing the rules? Plus, after he illegally kicked Okami in the face, he fights with the ref like he’s trying to get at a downed Okami to hit him again! I’m wondering if Silva is really as humble and respectful as he’s often made out to be.

dont know if you knew this but, the ref for that fight was Troy “Rude Boy” Mandoloniz, I didnt know either but, thats a pretty weird fact

by hector on Mar 12, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

okami is in alot of trouble, a pissed off Anderson wil destroy him in 2 rounds.okami couldnt finish M.Quick Swick,and Swick was a under sized Mwt. the only time he has finished was against an old evan tanner,inexperienced kalib starnes & unranked rory singer.the rest of his UFC fights went the distance.his lay n pray doesnt work against top 5 fighters.

I don’t know. I mean, Okami is one of the best when it comes to lay and pray lol.

by Toms Bombs on Mar 12, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This site is , in a way, for the purposes of talking shit. Topics are posted and people give there opinions. It just happens that a majority of the people have the opinion that Silva destroys Okami. Don’t let it ruin your day.

I’m not talking about the comments people are making, I’m talking about the comments Silva has been making as of late. I know he’s great. But Silva lost the fight against Okami on his own with an illegal kick. How can he say anything bad about the way Okami won when it was his own fault. Do I think Silva will win their next fight. Yes. But he has no reason to talk down about Okami.

by VNDK8 on Mar 12, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No one thought Serra would beat GSP either. Lucky shot, cheap shot, hard hands, call it what you want, Serra still won the fight. Don’t talk shit or it may come back to haunt you.

I’m a GSP fan, and I can say that it wasn’t a lucky shot. And Chonan’s sub of Silva wasn’t lucky either, it was perfect execution. But, it would be hard for Chonan to beat Anderson agai, and the same goes for Serra and GSP.

by Pat on Mar 12, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva runs his mouth a lot… he is extremely egotistical, just as english speaking, its tough to tell someone’s manner.

Id love to see Okami win, but highly doubt that can happen. The MW division is doomed due to all the competition that would fair well against Silva, are friends (Filho, Machida.) GSP needs to destroy Serra, then take a walk to 185..

by Luppers on Mar 12, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve only seen a pissed-off Anderson Silva about twice.

1. Right after getting the DQ against Okami.
2. Before the Travis Lutter fight, he was pissed because Lutter screwed him out of a title defense.

The worst we’ve seen AS in the Octagon was the Lutter fight. Yeah, he was never in any real danger despite what people say, and he finished Lutter at “his own game,” but AS wasn’t as crisp in this fight. Maybe he’s better when he’s not really angry.

AS wasn’t as crisp??? That’s funny.

Lutter was freaking lethargic !!!

by KS on Mar 12, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henderson wins 3 out 5? Are you on drugs? You say the only way he Silva beats Henderson is by submitting him? Are you crazy? What fight were you watching? Silva had Hendo rocked standing on his feet. The reason he went to the ground is cause Hendo was ducking and trying to move out of the way. He just took the fight where it was going…not because that is the only way he can win.

by Andy on Mar 12, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Mania,

I don’t understand some of the stuff you do. I love the website. You always edited my post-its…why? Sometime I use swear words sometimes I don’t. Even when I do, I use “#$” letters like that. How can you edit my post it’s? When the president of the company this whole web site is all about, talks worst then I do? And he talk smack to his fighters too, why cant I talk smack to some of these MMA newbie’s? In a loving way…Stop editing my write in!!!!

by Boss on Mar 12, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and post the one I wrote about tito…come on mania lol post it!!!!!!!!!

by Boss on Mar 12, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AS wasn’t as crisp???

That’s funny.

Lutter was freaking lethargic !!!

How’s that funny? I meant he wasn’t as crisp as we’re used to seeing. You disagree with that? Lutter was lethargic, just like you said, yet still took AS down multiple times and got him in full mount. I’d say that supports exactly what I said: It wasn’t AS’ best night.

by Popetastic on Mar 12, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Silva acting like such a punk toward Okami? He’s the one who delivered the illegal kick, how do you blame Okami for you not knowing the rules? Plus, after he illegally kicked Okami in the face, he fights with the ref like he’s trying to get at a downed Okami to hit him again! I’m wondering if Silva is really as humble and respectful as he’s often made out to be.

I totally agree with you. This is very lame for Silva to accuse Oakami of being cowardly – what’s he supposed to do, not get illegally kicked? If anything, I think it was Silva being cowardly. In their bout, Okami was turning the tide, getting the takedown on Silva and starting a little ground and pound. Maybe it was Silva’s desperation and cowardice that forced him to use an illegal technique.

As for humility, the only opponent that Silva’s shown respect for is Franklin – and that’s after Franklin went out of his way to act honorably to Silva. Remember after the Silva/Henderson bout? Silva basically said that Henderson wasn’t a real champion. That seems highly disrespectful to me.

All that being said, I do believe that Silva is the better fighter between him and Okami. But I will be rooting for Okami in the rematch.

by FC on Mar 12, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva has amazed me with the speed that he’s put away his past opponents, but I hope he doesn’t take Okami lightly. Thinking that Okami is a puss or thinking the he couldn’t stand up to Silva could leave a hole in his game just big enough to fit a fist through. Train hard, AS!

by loudpedal on Mar 12, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva is a punk and getting too big of a head i think. someone will hopefully deflate that ego of his soon.

by kitsunex on Mar 12, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami is a punk. No chance against the champ.

by dtrain on Mar 12, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami is in for a nap in the first round. He got ko’ed in there first fight and he’ll get ko’ed in there next fight. Silva is progressively getting harder and harder to take down, and okami will have his work cut out for him, I predict if this fight ever happens silva wins by ko is round one.

by nathan on Mar 12, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know what fight you saw, but Hendo wasn’t really losing that fight. He clearly won the first round, and the second could have gone either way, knowing the judges. Hendo got caught, simple as that. Of course I don’t take anything away from Anderson, I think he’s one of the top fighters, without a doubt. But unless Silva submitts him, Hendo wins 3 out of 5 times.

Henderson lost the fight.

Judges are going out of business when Anderson Sliva fights.

Mahade said right.

Nate M. Travis L Rich F (2X) and Hendo were all suppose to be the one to nullify Anderson’s Mauy Thai bring him to the deck and GnP him right?? It never happened. 3 TKO’s 2 submissions..he has yet come out the second round in the UFC.

by PhilQNY on Mar 12, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How could Okami win??

by Cory on Mar 12, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m a GSP fan, and I can say that it wasn’t a lucky shot. And Chonan’s sub of Silva wasn’t lucky either, it was perfect execution. But, it would be hard for Chonan to beat Anderson agai, and the same goes for Serra and GSP.

It’s harder for Serra, cause the element of surprise is gone. GSP knows to respect his hands..It should be a different this time around..I’m rooting for Serra..the under dog..I like GSP..but I rather to see Serra win..IMO.

This is the beauty of MMA..on any given night..anything can happen. I just hope GSP is not looking passed Serra again..talks about moving up in weight..he has yet to win and defend his belt. If he looks passed Serra b4 UFC 84..he might be looking up at him with blurred vision on his back…and he did tapout due to strikes.

by PhilQNY on Mar 12, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Id love to see Okami win, but highly doubt that can happen. The MW division is doomed due to all the competition that would fair well against Silva, are friends (Filho, Machida.) GSP needs to destroy Serra, then take a walk to 185..

GSP needs to win and defend his title a few times..b4 he even dreams of moving around weight divisions.

by PhilQNY on Mar 12, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not talking about the comments people are making, I’m talking about the comments Silva has been making as of late. I know he’s great. But Silva lost the fight against Okami on his own with an illegal kick. How can he say anything bad about the way Okami won when it was his own fault. Do I think Silva will win their next fight. Yes. But he has no reason to talk down about Okami.


Understood. My bad.

by James S on Mar 12, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henderson wins 3 out 5? Are you on drugs? You say the only way he Silva beats Henderson is by submitting him? Are you crazy? What fight were you watching? Silva had Hendo rocked standing on his feet. The reason he went to the ground is cause Hendo was ducking and trying to move out of the way. He just took the fight where it was going…not because that is the only way he can win.

  Agreed, I was very disappointed in hendo and in the second round he looked terrible, hendo’s only chance is not to stand with silva and take him down every chance he gets. Nobody and I repeat Nobody can stand with silva very long before taking a nap, he’s that good, I’ve never see any mma fighter who looks as good as him on there feet. I agree with what someone mentioned earlier than serra is gsp’s ryo chonan and if silva fought chonan and when gsp fights serra these fights will end with a very different results. No two fights are the same and gsp and anderson are much better than anyone else in there weight class. I would put the betting odds for the gsp/serra fight at -1200 gsp, serra has so little chance this time, fighting the best gsp ever, coming off an injury, the betting odds should favor gsp much more this time than last time.

by nathan on Mar 12, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva is getting a little more outspoken lately…. is he getting a swelled head or is this the real Spider?….

by THORAZINE on Mar 12, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henderson lost the fight.

Judges are going out of business when Anderson Sliva fights.

Mahade said right.

Nate M. Travis L Rich F (2X) and Hendo were all suppose to be the one to nullify Anderson’s Mauy Thai bring him to the deck and GnP him right?? It never happened. 3 TKO’s 2 submissions..he has yet come out the second round in the UFC.

Hendo doesn’t have the gas to go mutliple rounds anymore… his age is showing, not everyone can be randy couture

by THORAZINE on Mar 12, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva runs his mouth a lot… he is extremely egotistical, just as english speaking, its tough to tell someone’s manner.

Id love to see Okami win, but highly doubt that can happen. The MW division is doomed due to all the competition that would fair well against Silva, are friends (Filho, Machida.) GSP needs to destroy Serra, then take a walk to 185..

George wants to defend the ww title a few times first I think.

by Belly of fury on Mar 12, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami will find out how Silva fights when he is angry..cuz AS is vexed. He is the last mofo I would want to be on this planet when they ink the contract..poor guy.

To Qoute BJ Penn : Okami! Your Dead!

by PhilQNY on Mar 12, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know what fight you saw, but Hendo wasn’t really losing that fight. He clearly won the first round, and the second could have gone either way, knowing the judges. Hendo got caught, simple as that. Of course I don’t take anything away from Anderson, I think he’s one of the top fighters, without a doubt. But unless Silva submitts him, Hendo wins 3 out of 5 times.


I don’t know what fight you were watching because the one I watched Henderson won round one without doing much damage at all to Silva and Silva was picking him apart in round 2, rocking him with a nice knee before completely dominating him on the ground. Only way Henderson could of won was to keep Silva on his back for 5 rounds and win a decision but then again if Silva was on his back for 5 rounds there is a good chance that Henderson would have got caught in a submission.

by GSP4Prez on Mar 12, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

id like to see silvas jaw truly tested

fighters need to talk up a fight

for a guy as dominant as he is
he seems suprisingly down to earth
there are a whole stack of fighters who have achieved far less and are far more arrogant

i dont think it makes much difference if silva is pissed off or not
look at the beatings he gave rich franklin who is a guy he has publicly stated that he likes and respects

in terms of damage hendo got off quite lightly

cant wait for the next silva fight
wouldnt like to guess who it is if okami is out with a broken hand and bisping already booked to fight captain miserable

would expect him to fight within 4 months which may not be long enough for okami to recover

by nate diaz on Mar 12, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

silva sounds like he wants to punish okami, just like his last 7 opponents

by tmurda on Mar 12, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im with Silva, I dont think much of Okami either. He is a strong but boring guy, who had face a liver-less Tanner in order to actually finish a fight.

What does it matter who Silva faces? We know he isnt going to loose and it wont go past the 2nd round…Does the opponent really matter?

by john on Mar 12, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m sitting on the fence with this one.

I love Silva but I don’t know where all the animosity is coming from. Silva is usually such a respectful fighter.

by Automation on Mar 12, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasnt the reason why Silva looked different in the Lutter fight because he just had knee surgery on both legs and was coming back early?

by jay on Mar 12, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anderson silva is unstopable in 185 the only chances of him losing is by moving up to 205. about GSP if he couldnt last 1 round standing with MATT SERRA then he couldnt las 30 seconds with ANDERSON SILVA

by daniel on Mar 12, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“People that were there saw that he was in the condition to come back and keep fighting”

Okami was unconcious was he not? At least damn near close to it.

by c-war on Mar 12, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Call me crazy but I would like to see Spider vs. Spida…. Kendell Grove vs. Anderson Silva… thios fight will NEVER happen because Grove will never be good enough to deserve a title shot. I would still like to see this fight because I am curious to see Anderson perform against a fighter who has a reach advantage over him. I dont really remember Silva ever fighting someone he didnt have a reach advantage over.

Ok, I will admit it, maybe I just want to see Kendall’s little head get Knocked off! As mis matched as this fight would be, it has to be more exciting than Okami vs. Silva.

I honestly dont think Okami has anything for Silva. He is a strong guy, but Silva is deceptively strong. Most of his UFC opponents thought they would be able to out muscle Silva: Hendo, franklin, Marquardt, and tey were all shocked at how deceptively strong Silva was…. I dont think Okami has anything to threaten Silva with.

From an excitment point of view, I would rather Silva face someone like Belcher or Cote that will try to stand with the spider… I guess it doesnt really matter, since no one in the UFC’s middleweight division can beat Silva, I am sure he will eventually go through everyone!

by john on Mar 12, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami has a good chance against Silva. Once Silva has broken his knuckles/elbows on Okami’s face, injured his forearms on Okami’s neck and knees on Okami’s ribs he will be open totally to Okami’s special ‘bore him til his brain starts to bleed attacks’ Okami wins via exploding brain round 5 ha ha :)

OK meanwhile back on planet earth Okami gets his ass handed to him by Silva in 2 rounds.

by MrAngry on Mar 12, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How could Okami win??

He’s not really the offensive dominant type. He is reserved and fights more from the defensive side. This is Silva’s last test in MW. Fighting someone who wont let you hurt them. If Silva wins this, he needs to move up to LHW where his chin and endurance can be tested, because there would be absolutely no set of skills left in MW to test his abilities. Call me crazy, but Im going to put this fight at 50/50. Like I said, Okami may not hurt you too bad, but can wear you down to put you in a position to hurt you and is quite the bitch to defeat. I expect Anderson to utilize his kicks and make Okami come forward. If Okami can ward off Silva’s kicks and come in safely with the power he has, I expect Silva to be in trouble.

by c-war on Mar 12, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do people insist on lumping GSP in with Silva? I don’t think any fighter is unbeatable, but of the two Silva is much closer to unbeatable than GSP. Silva hasn’t actually been beaten in the ring in three years and has finished his nine wins since that loss (DQ to Okami excluded) in under two rounds. GSP has a couple losses in the octagon and several decisions, at least one of which was questionable. These two are not on the same level. That goes for BJ Penn too.

by PW on Mar 12, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Call me crazy but I would like to see Spider vs. Spida…. Kendell Grove vs. Anderson Silva… thios fight will NEVER happen because Grove will never be good enough to deserve a title shot. I would still like to see this fight because I am curious to see Anderson perform against a fighter who has a reach advantage over him. I dont really remember Silva ever fighting someone he didnt have a reach advantage over.

Ok, I will admit it, maybe I just want to see Kendall’s little head get Knocked off! As mis matched as this fight would be, it has to be more exciting than Okami vs. Silva.

I honestly dont think Okami has anything for Silva. He is a strong guy, but Silva is deceptively strong. Most of his UFC opponents thought they would be able to out muscle Silva: Hendo, franklin, Marquardt, and tey were all shocked at how deceptively strong Silva was…. I dont think Okami has anything to threaten Silva with.

From an excitment point of view, I would rather Silva face someone like Belcher or Cote that will try to stand with the spider… I guess it doesnt really matter, since no one in the UFC’s middleweight division can beat Silva, I am sure he will eventually go through everyone!

Hi Crazy lol

by Automation on Mar 12, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hi Crazy lol

Automation…. I just read my post, and maybe I do come off as a Raging Lunatic today! I am just stressed! I got final exams all this week and next week. Still I dont think Okami has anything exciting to offer to a fight. Since Dana has been all about excitement instead of who actually deserves title shots, I am surprised that Okami is even getting a title shot, but he has earned it so whatever… Just have to enjoy another highlight KO by Silva.

It really doesnt matter who silva faces, Hendo, Leben, Franklin, Honestly, they all look the same when they are fighting the Spider!

In the next couple of years watch out for THales Leites, he is one of my favorite up and coming middleweights and I hope he does Fight Marquardt, because after beating Him, that should put Lietes on the map!

by john on Mar 12, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dont know if you knew this but, the ref for that fight was Troy “Rude Boy” Mandoloniz, I didnt know either but, thats a pretty weird fact

That is a pretty weird fact actually…but i feel like there is something else going on here b/t these two guys. he never talks about his opponents like this, and he went after him after the fight was stopped as well…just seems like more than meets the eye here. anyone have any guesses (mania?)

by idunnonadda on Mar 12, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do people insist on lumping GSP in with Silva? I don’t think any fighter is unbeatable, but of the two Silva is much closer to unbeatable than GSP. Silva hasn’t actually been beaten in the ring in three years and has finished his nine wins since that loss (DQ to Okami excluded) in under two rounds. GSP has a couple losses in the octagon and several decisions, at least one of which was questionable. These two are not on the same level. That goes for BJ Penn too.

i agree, as much as i like GSP and BJ, silva is in another world right now…i think bj is getting there but he is only a visitor, and silva is the merciless dictator. but, we’ll first have to see how he does against the muscle shark to really consider that right now.

silva reminds me of jones in his prime. i am hard pressed to think of anyone that could move up or down to beat him. he would likely have to move up or down to lose.

by idunnonadda on Mar 12, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

has anybody thought that maybe Silva is acting up in order to get some hype going?? He gets paid less than former champ Rich Franklin still doesn’t he?? Mybe because he just doesn’t draw fans [despite how dominant he is]

I think its all an act to get the Spider the recognition he deserves =p

by ROb on Mar 12, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Silva…I don’t think much of Okami either…and if they fight…I think it will be hard to find much left of Okami…Silva would dismantle him…However, since Okami is involved…this will be Silva’s most boring fight…until Okami is picking off pieces of his face from Silva’s knee!

by DaGrizzlyBear on Mar 12, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And how was it a cheap and cowardly way of winning? He did make the illegal move, not Okami. Not saying Anderson is a coward or anything lol, just that he shouldn’t talk like that if he’s the one who threw the up kick to his downed opponent.

Ok, I only read half the posts so I’m not sure if someone already brought this up, but it’s obvious you guys don’t quite get what silva is saying here. He “feels” okami was not knocked out when he kicked him in the face, and laid on the floor as he was. This is the reason silva got frustrated after the ref stopped him. That’s the reason the fight got stopped and okami won by DQ. Now, we can argue if okami really was out or not, but Anderson is calling okami a coward because he feels he was not out, and chose the easy way of winning by DQ.

Just to be clear, if okami would’ve gotten up right after that kick, the fight would have continued with the judges taking a point away from silva.

by linx on Mar 12, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is it really neccessary for silva to go through the actions and beat up okami again?…

- the fans aren’t dying to see it ( i’m not )
- it doesn’t avenge any loss because that DQ wasn’t a real loss.
- Okami might be #1 contender but lost to Franklin. We all know what happenned to Franklin.
- the win for spider won’t prove to us anything we didn’t already know.

pretty much pointless. he should start looking ouside UFC MW division for real game.

by kama kaze on Mar 12, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anderson silva is unstopable in 185 the only chances of him losing is by moving up to 205. about GSP if he couldnt last 1 round standing with MATT SERRA then he couldnt las 30 seconds with ANDERSON SILVA

I think you will see it’s Serra not GSP who is outmatched wherever the fight goes, ground included. GSP won’t take him lightly this time and probably going to take him down and pound him out. He’s become a more balanced fighter since joining the Jackson camp and really good at controlling the fight.

In MMA anyone can win at anytime, it doesn’t appear there’s many who could dethrone Silva at 185 right now. But hey fights aren’t won on paper are they. I think the longer Silva reigns as champ the more he will relax and be more likely to be defeated. That being said I still don’t see Silva losing in the immediate future.

by x9iceman9x on Mar 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah if anything this smells like a lot of fight hype, not a thrilling match up for many or me at least. If ya think Silva messed up Franklin bad, man wait until this massacre if it goes down. Okami can’t lay n pray his way to a decision with this man, if Silva is as determined to get revenge as he sounds… well it would sure suck to be Okami on that night.

by x9iceman9x on Mar 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do people insist on lumping GSP in with Silva? I don’t think any fighter is unbeatable, but of the two Silva is much closer to unbeatable than GSP. Silva hasn’t actually been beaten in the ring in three years and has finished his nine wins since that loss (DQ to Okami excluded) in under two rounds. GSP has a couple losses in the octagon and several decisions, at least one of which was questionable. These two are not on the same level. That goes for BJ Penn too.

Mainly due to their simular fighting styles I’d assume, both are such dynamic stand up fighters. Where Silva is on another level is his killer instinct and mindpower, I feel like GSP has gotten better but still lacks some mental toughness at times. I agree Silva is on a completely different level then anyone else right now, a jump to 205 may bring him back down and challenge him way more then the staying at the 185 division. I wouldn’t blame him for staying put and cementing his legacy, but as a fan I’d love to see him move up where some badass fights are garaunteed.

by x9iceman9x on Mar 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mainly due to their simular fighting styles I’d assume, both are such dynamic stand up fighters. Where Silva is on another level is his killer instinct and mindpower, I feel like GSP has gotten better but still lacks some mental toughness at times. I agree Silva is on a completely different level then anyone else right now, a jump to 205 may bring him back down and challenge him way more then the staying at the 185 division. I wouldn’t blame him for staying put and cementing his legacy, but as a fan I’d love to see him move up where some badass fights are garaunteed.


similar fighting styles. r u serious? their fighting styles are damn near opposite

by keystone on Mar 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Automation…. I just read my post, and maybe I do come off as a Raging Lunatic today! I am just stressed! I got final exams all this week and next week. Still I dont think Okami has anything exciting to offer to a fight. Since Dana has been all about excitement instead of who actually deserves title shots, I am surprised that Okami is even getting a title shot, but he has earned it so whatever… Just have to enjoy another highlight KO by Silva.

It really doesnt matter who silva faces, Hendo, Leben, Franklin, Honestly, they all look the same when they are fighting the Spider!

In the next couple of years watch out for THales Leites, he is one of my favorite up and coming middleweights and I hope he does Fight Marquardt, because after beating Him, that should put Lietes on the map!

No problem John.

Just trying to inject humour to the stress.

Do what true MMA fighters do, don’t get angry and keep focused and you won’t make mistakes. Exams will be a breeze.

We will wait and see how your boy Leites gets on, I’ll reserve judgement at this stage. I would expect a submission of Pete Sell as childs play for him but he went the distance.

by Automation on Mar 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Silva acting like such a punk toward Okami? He’s the one who delivered the illegal kick, how do you blame Okami for you not knowing the rules? Plus, after he illegally kicked Okami in the face, he fights with the ref like he’s trying to get at a downed Okami to hit him again! I’m wondering if Silva is really as humble and respectful as he’s often made out to be.

-I have to agree with you completely!
Silva, why must you be so pissed at okami? It was YOU who landed the ILLEGAL kick remember??? when you say nobody explained the rules to you, it just sounds like an excuse. Just respect your opponents(HENDO) and fight gracefully(like wanderlei) without excuses or badmouthing, because when that fighter happens to come along who knocks you out, he might not be there to help you up!!!! You running your mouth about now wanting to prove to everyone that you can beat roy jones at his own game etc. doesnt sound like a humble guy IMO. You need to beat a few more guys throughout the UFC before you really start letting this get to your head and taking on boxers etc. Your good, but a 6-0 record i wouldnt consider an invincible one yet! slow down and beat okami with your skills, not your mouth!

by blah on Mar 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with ya keystone gsp is a young guy who has fought the best in the world at a younger age in his weight class by the time he’s silva’s age you might be saying the same thing about him. I believe that gsp would obviously dominate silva on the ground i mean come on. What did silva mean about rich franklin being the only champ he’s faced in the octagon i mean did rich even touch him? Henderson controlled him like a child the first round.

by damon on Mar 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

…and we get what silva is “sayin” that he wasnt knocked out yet, but guess what, an ILLEGAL kick is an ILLEGAL kick anyway you see it. so why should okami keep on fighting after that nasty kick…. what if okami kicked you in the nuts with all the force you put into your kick? i dont think ud like to continue after that either??

by blah on Mar 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s not to say that i don’t think silva is an amazing fighter I just don’t see George losing another fight for a long time either. I hope these two meet.

by damon on Mar 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t get man you guys want to see an animal in the ring that can destroy any man, but outside the ring you guys wanna see a someone that talks like a politician always being politically correct and running circles around question.

SILVA is a man’s man he says how he sees it, no BS. he is being real…………. hey if I was him I’ll be alright next who you guys have next for me to destroy.

I know it looks bad when you loose but when your MMA loosing is the last thing on your mind.

I say way to be man and say whats inside of and leave the politically correct talk to Clinton and Obama.

by TKO on Mar 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i like the way he always finishes guys

id love to see him fight BJ

id rate BJs chances way higher than any MW (possibly bar henderson)

wanderlei could be a good fight too

im sure theyll find some worthy opponents for him eventually

chuck and matt hughes both went through long spells where they looked nearly invincible as did arlovski tito frank shamrock and several others who stuck a long win streak together

silva does look to be on another level at the moment and while i dont relish the okami fight il still happily pay to see silva add to his impressive highlight reel

matt lindland could possibly provide a decent challenge although there is a slight doubt in the back of my mind that hes a little too much like dan henderson and also isnt fighting much these days

by nate diaz on Mar 12, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont understand why some of you are hating on Silva all of a sudden..it seems that the longer Silva becomes the champ the more people want him to lose..

by Hamilton on Mar 13, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the UFC needs to sign the little guy from pride that submitted anderson silva with a, made for the movies, heel hook. i bet he could submit silva again. i wonder why no one has learned anything from that fight and tried to submit silva with a leg submission of some sort

Because that was a freak win! Chonan is signed with the UFC. Silva was killing him in that fight. IT would not happen again. The point that he Chonan submitts Silva, was pure desperation. Silva would put him away quick next time he will not fall for such a move again. That move has worked like 3 times in mma. That is why it is hadly used…

Silva beats Okami in second poss. a 3rd round because of his strength.

by Da Monkey on Mar 13, 2008 6:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

…and we get what silva is “sayin” that he wasnt knocked out yet, but guess what, an ILLEGAL kick is an ILLEGAL kick anyway you see it. so why should okami keep on fighting after that nasty kick…. what if okami kicked you in the nuts with all the force you put into your kick???

i dont think ud like to continue after that either????

Funny you’d bring that as an example. After the so many years of watching MMA, and so many fights where a guy gets kicked in the nuts (most unintentional) but many of them full force kicks, I can’t say I remember a fight being stopped and given DQ status for something like that. Can you?

by linx on Mar 13, 2008 6:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Call me crazy but I would like to see Spider vs. Spida…. Kendell Grove vs. Anderson Silva… thios fight will NEVER happen because Grove will never be good enough to deserve a title shot. I would still like to see this fight because I am curious to see Anderson perform against a fighter who has a reach advantage over him. I dont really remember Silva ever fighting someone he didnt have a reach advantage over.

Ok, I will admit it, maybe I just want to see Kendall’s little head get Knocked off! As mis matched as this fight would be, it has to be more exciting than Okami vs. Silva.

I honestly dont think Okami has anything for Silva. He is a strong guy, but Silva is deceptively strong. Most of his UFC opponents thought they would be able to out muscle Silva: Hendo, franklin, Marquardt, and tey were all shocked at how deceptively strong Silva was…. I dont think Okami has anything to threaten Silva with.

From an excitment point of view, I would rather Silva face someone like Belcher or Cote that will try to stand with the spider… I guess it doesnt really matter, since no one in the UFC’s middleweight division can beat Silva, I am sure he will eventually go through everyone!

Bisping said he feels he can defeat our boy Silva.. ( yeah sure )..I would love to see that fight..remaniscent Silva/Leben ( I would give PPing 90 seconds )..in the rate Pussping is going in fighting the who’s not to the who’s who of the MW this is an un likely fight that will happen like the above mentioned Grove/Silva..but would they both be fun watch..hell yeah.

by PhilQNY on Mar 13, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Silva acting like such a punk toward Okami? He’s the one who delivered the illegal kick, how do you blame Okami for you not knowing the rules? Plus, after he illegally kicked Okami in the face, he fights with the ref like he’s trying to get at a downed Okami to hit him again! I’m wondering if Silva is really as humble and respectful as he’s often made out to be.

Good point! Yeah i think Silva ought to keep his mouth shut on this topic.

That was a hard, hard upkick that deserved the DQ and your right he looked like a di*k trying to get past the ref.

They should have had an immidate rematch tho.

by Nick J on Mar 13, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Silva is as unbeatable as all that. Yes if you stand with him your going to sleep, but nearly every fighter in the UFC has been able to take him down.

Once down, yes he has got slick BJJ but a G & P KO for silva is round the corner.

Okami was working him over from Silvas guard b4 the upkick.

by Nick J on Mar 13, 2008 8:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think right now’ this is the only fight that makes sense for Anderson Silva…

I know he is willing to drop down or go up in weight, but both titles are being fought for in upcoming months…and Anderson is the only champ right now fighting more then 2 times a yaer..The UFC should not put him on the shelf to wait for the WW and LHW fights to end..They should hook this fight up, then try to move Anderson around different weight divisions.

by Stagger-Lee on Mar 13, 2008 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No problem John.

Just trying to inject humour to the stress.

Do what true MMA fighters do, don’t get angry and keep focused and you won’t make mistakes. Exams will be a breeze.

We will wait and see how your boy Leites gets on, I’ll reserve judgement at this stage. I would expect a submission of Pete Sell as childs play for him but he went the distance.

Thanks 4 understanding Automation! As for Leites, he is still very young but down the line he will be a force! His ju jitsu is amazing! I am dying to see how a fight between Leites and Marquardt plays out!

by john on Mar 13, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PhilQNY: What do u think of your Brazilian Homie, Lietes?

by john on Mar 13, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny you’d bring that as an example. After the so many years of watching MMA, and so many fights where a guy gets kicked in the nuts (most unintentional) but many of them full force kicks, I can’t say I remember a fight being stopped and given DQ status for something like that. Can you?

-Well its even funnier you are supporting an illegal kick or at the very least, justifying it like its okamis fault for not wanting to continue(ref stopped it not okami BTW)especially if u have been a long time fan as u claim,or did u forget its a sport with rules after all the years of watching?
BTW, You r missing the point, why should silva get an advantage to continue at a possbile dizzy okami after an unexpected kick like that? so, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE OK FOR FIGHTERS TO TAKE CHEAPSHOTS AT EACHOTHER since theyll figure nothin but a point would be deducted from them…. You have been watchin MMA for many years as you claim, so wouldnt you say a kick like that or a punch like that is devastating enough to maybe have someone seeing double throughout the fight??? is it fair you think?

by blah on Mar 13, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do people insist on lumping GSP in with Silva? I don’t think any fighter is unbeatable, but of the two Silva is much closer to unbeatable than GSP. Silva hasn’t actually been beaten in the ring in three years and has finished his nine wins since that loss (DQ to Okami excluded) in under two rounds. GSP has a couple losses in the octagon and several decisions, at least one of which was questionable. These two are not on the same level. That goes for BJ Penn too.
Mainly due to their simular fighting styles I’d assume, both are such dynamic stand up fighters. Where Silva is on another level is his killer instinct and mindpower, I feel like GSP has gotten better but still lacks some mental toughness at times. I agree Silva is on a completely different level then anyone else right now, a jump to 205 may bring him back down and challenge him way more then the staying at the 185 division. I wouldn’t blame him for staying put and cementing his legacy, but as a fan I’d love to see him move up where some badass fights are garaunteed.
similar fighting styles. r u serious? their fighting styles are damn near opposite

How so? The fact both are so athletic standing and have equal ability with their punches and kicks, as well as decent submissions when needed. Lately GSP has changed his game up a bit and gone to more wrestling, only huge difference is Silva’s style is based off Muy Thai mostly but in general both are fairly simular in how they attack with strikes, only exeption is knee’s. I don’t see how you can call them opposites at all though.

by x9iceman9x on Mar 13, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

-Well its even funnier you are supporting an illegal kick or at the very least, justifying it like its okamis fault for not wanting to continue(ref stopped it not okami BTW)especially if u have been a long time fan as u claim,or did u forget its a sport with rules after all the years of watching?
BTW, You r missing the point, why should silva get an advantage to continue at a possbile dizzy okami after an unexpected kick like that? so, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE OK FOR FIGHTERS TO TAKE CHEAPSHOTS AT EACHOTHER since theyll figure nothin but a point would be deducted from them…. You have been watchin MMA for many years as you claim, so wouldnt you say a kick like that or a punch like that is devastating enough to maybe have someone seeing double throughout the fight??? is it fair you think?

In that fight Anderson Silva didn’t with no malice intentionally kick Okami while he was down.

1. Silva was on his back..Okami in his Guard. With good high posture..what did’t help Silva was Okami had his knees on the mat..but when I saw the fight..I don’t think Silva deserved a loss on his record for it. Silva had said : The rules weren’t correctly explained to me. Does any one remember…

Renzo Gracie vs Oleg Takarov..MArs?? Renzo KO’d Oleg while on his back with an up kick..( The first ever fighter to do so in MMA )..Granted..Oleg didn’t have his knees planted on the mat..but both scenarios are almost the same.

Okami didn’t do ish in that fight..and if given a rematch..oh poor guy..he will be fighting an angry and much more of MMA fighter in Silva..Silva likes Franklin and look what happened to him twice.

by PhilQNY on Mar 13, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PhilQNY: What do u think of your Brazilian Homie, Lietes?

He is the goods..I just qustion his toughness overall..not to say he doesn’t have..but I have to see more of him..he needs to stay injury free..beat Nate M..and put on a good fight..he got the tools..and the backround..and opportunity to make some noise in his division.

by PhilQNY on Mar 13, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This site is , in a way, for the purposes of talking shit. Topics are posted and people give there opinions. It just happens that a majority of the people have the opinion that Silva destroys Okami. Don’t let it ruin your day.


LOL

by ToeLock on Mar 13, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In that fight Anderson Silva didn’t with no malice intentionally kick Okami while he was down.

1. Silva was on his back..Okami in his Guard. With good high posture..what did’t help Silva was Okami had his knees on the mat..but when I saw the fight..I don’t think Silva deserved a loss on his record for it. Silva had said : The rules weren’t correctly explained to me. Does any one remember…

Renzo Gracie vs Oleg Takarov..MArs?? Renzo KO’d Oleg while on his back with an up kick..( The first ever fighter to do so in MMA )..Granted..Oleg didn’t have his knees planted on the mat..but both scenarios are almost the same.

Okami didn’t do ish in that fight..and if given a rematch..oh poor guy..he will be fighting an angry and much more of MMA fighter in Silva..Silva likes Franklin and look what happened to him twice.

I agree with PhilQNY and furthermore, I’m not making excuses for silva but rather explaining how he feels, there is a big difference. See, on an earlier post you said:

“Silva, why must you be so pissed at okami? It was YOU who landed the ILLEGAL kick remember??? when you say nobody explained the rules to you, it just sounds like an excuse.”

He’s not pissed at Okami for himself making the illegal kick, he’s not pissed that he got DQ, he’s pissed because he felt okami was not out and therefore could have continued the fight, that’s the reason he’s calling okami a “coward” capiche? Oh, and I’m not supporting an illegal kick, I’m just explaining silva’s point of view, nothing more. It seems many here got lost through the words he used because he said “coward”, that’s it. I don’t know for a fact that okami was out or not, therefore I’m not agreeing nor disagreeing with the spider, the only thing I’m doing is clarifying what he said. He could be wrong, he could be right, but the only two that knows for sure is him and okami.

You also said:

“MAYBE IT SHOULD BE OK FOR FIGHTERS TO TAKE CHEAPSHOTS AT EACHOTHER since theyll figure nothin but a point would be deducted from them”

This is true, fighters could take cheapshots at any time and get a point deducted, but they don’t and it’s not hard to figure out why. They’re not punks, they respect the rules (maybe not tito), they would also suffer great displeasures from the fans. It also seems that you’re trying to imply that I’m talking down to you because I’ve been a fan for “so many years”. This is not so, if you feel this way I’m sorry, but we’re all fans here, there are a bunch of us that are fans for many years and there are a bunch of us that are new fans. Regardless neither knows more than another IMO.

by linx on Mar 13, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In that pic, Silva looks like he’s been partying with Rogan.
He’s been hitting a heavy bag for sure!

by SaVaGe on Mar 14, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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