Brock Lesnar vs. Mark Coleman August Minnesota fight

Mark Coleman was tonight inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame as expected at UFC 82: "Pride of a Champion" at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio.
Unexpectedly, he announced that he will not retire and he will fight Brock Lesnar in August in Minnesota.
That's not a typo.
Coleman—the first - ever UFC heavyweight champion — will return to the Octagon for the first time since 1999. He had a semi-successful run in the Pride FC organization, with the highlight of his work overseas being the champion of the first-ever open weight grand prix in 2000.
Since that time, however, the 43-year-old has compiled an average record (4-4), taking on some of the best competitors in the division such as Fedor Emelianenko (two losses), Mirko Cro Cop (loss) and Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira (loss).
Coleman — the "Godfather" of the ground and pound — is a collegiate national wrestling champion for THE Ohio State University and competed in the Olympics in 1992. He'll put his ground skills to the test against another collegiate wrestling champion in Lesnar.
Lesnar dropped his highly anticipated Octagon debut at UFC 81: "Breaking Point," losing to former heavyweight champion Frank Mir via submission (kneebar) in round one. He's also a former WWE wrestling superstar who is extremely marketable, especially in front of his hometown crowd in Minnesota.
This is definitely a big test for each fighter — both want to prove that they belong in the UFC. And the two will have five months to prepare for the showdown.
When the bout takes place it will mark the first time ever the UFC has staged an event in the "North Star State."
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THIs is terrible sori mark coleman but this is all about money ur gonna lose!!!!!
YOu all make fun of elite xc and Gary shaw and co. for building kimbo slice, but this is what the ufc is doing to brock trying to build him into a star which he is not thus Far!!!
this is a rediculous fight coleman and lesnar…and ufc 81 was a not worth almost 50.00 bucks for about 2 hours 30 minutes of what?
I don’t get paid that much per hour lost me here ufc
by GORANDY on Mar 2, 2008 1:01 AM EST reply actions
I can actually see Coleman knocking out Lesnar – I hope it doesn’t happen because if it does it will make a joke of the UFC and its heavyweight division.
by DownUnder on Mar 2, 2008 1:17 AM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
by GORANDY on Mar 2, 2008 1:19 AM EST reply actions
ok 1st guy! my thoughts on ufc 82.
lets start with the leben fight. he is like a energizer bunny, hard head and is exciting 2 watch. very good fight.
fitch i thought lost he was in a triangle choke and wilson jumped up right away. bad judging. fitch made the fight boring
silva did what i thought he was going to do (win) but he shocked me how silva’s BJJ skills r way under-rated. i say and i hate it but okami is next in my eyes.
okami’s fight- boring but good ending u could see the ring rust on tanner. okami just respects the other fighter too much
herring fight- i thought u were going to take him down but kongo showed us he is working on his ground game. herring said it was going 2 b a long fight and he was right. i love the way he fight and he knows his job. but he still needs to improve.
koscheck vs hazelett- good fight by both! josh is really improving all around.and hazelett striking was good tonight too. now josh change the way u treat people outside the ring. your a good fighter but not as good as u think u r but your surely getting there and sorry for calling u surely. i don’t like the way u live all the time but i like the way u r starting to fight. hazelett great job tonight i’m sure they’ll want u back.
by jimbo on Mar 2, 2008 1:25 AM EST reply actions
ok 1st guy! don’t put mark down and lesnar u better respect your elders.
my thoughts on ufc 82.
lets start with the leben fight. he is like a energizer bunny he keeps going & going, hard headed and is exciting 2 watch. very good fight.
fitch i thought lost he was in a triangle choke and wilson jumped up right away. bad judging. fitch made the fight boring
silva did what i thought he was going to do (win) but he shocked me how silva’s BJJ skills r way under-rated. i say and i hate it but okami is next in my eyes.
okami’s fight- boring but good ending u could see the ring rust on tanner. okami just respects the other fighter too much
herring fight- i thought heath was going 2 take kongo. down but kongo showed us he is working on his ground game. herring said it was going 2 b a long fight and he was right. i love the way he fights and he knows his job. but he still needs to improve.
koscheck vs hazelett- good fight by both! josh is really improving all around and hazelett striking was good tonight too. now josh change the way u treat people outside the ring. your a good fighter but not as good as u think u r. but your surely getting there and sorry for calling u surely. i don’t like the way u live all the time but i like the way u r starting to fight. hazelett great job tonight i’m sure they’ll want u back.
by jimbo on Mar 2, 2008 1:31 AM EST reply actions
I dont know what you were watching, or drinking tonight,(just kidding) GoRandy but i thought UFC 82 was great. As for a shorter PPV the last fight they showed ended at about the 2 hour and 50 minute mark. How much longer could they have possibley went? All 6 matches shown on PPV delivered tonight imo.
by Beltstud on Mar 2, 2008 1:31 AM EST reply actions
are they sure it will be in minnesota i thought coleman said he was fighting lesnar from minnesota, i was sure aug would be in las vegas i guess i was wrong
by bryant on Mar 2, 2008 1:34 AM EST reply actions
i didn’t do good in the U.F.C. fantasy tonight so far it says 157th out of over 17,000 people. that is bad for me.
by jimbo on Mar 2, 2008 1:37 AM EST reply actions
U.F.C. u better bring chris wilson back he made the fight as good as it was.
by jimbo on Mar 2, 2008 1:38 AM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
Its all a big concepricy the UFC is plotting to take over the world every one be ware. Come on go bring your stupid conspericy theory arguments somewhere else. They changed there name because they couldnt sponser Jon Fitch if they had UFC in there name. Why would the UFC threaten them anyways what do they do to the UFC here at mania other than get more people watching the UFC and excited about UFC and mma in general?
by GSP4Prez on Mar 2, 2008 1:47 AM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
If you hate the UFC so much don’t watch it. You clearly have nothing but complaints about the UFC and the sport in general. Take it easy buddy and enjoy the fights.
by Toms Bombs on Mar 2, 2008 1:47 AM EST reply actions
If you hate the UFC so much don’t watch it. You clearly have nothing but complaints about the UFC and the sport in general. Take it easy buddy and enjoy the fights.
Wow, and I just realized you’re bashing this site. Poor form my boy.
by Toms Bombs on Mar 2, 2008 1:49 AM EST reply actions
I can’t see Coleman winning this fight I think Lesnar is just gonna be too big for him. I mean he is mainly a wrestler just like Lesnar but I mean Lesnar walks around close to 290 and Coleman around 225 and I dont care how good your are giving up 60 pounds is tough for anyone and with Colemans age I dont know that he can keep up with Lesnars wrestling. I mean Coleman probably has better standup and obviously a lot more mma experience than Lesnar but I see him taking a beating in this one.
by GSP4Prez on Mar 2, 2008 1:50 AM EST reply actions
Oh yeah, about this fight. lol I was pumped to see that Coleman was comming back, and I know I’ll be rooting for him, but sadly I see that freak Lesnar winning. Always said he’d do good against another wrestler or a striker.
by Toms Bombs on Mar 2, 2008 1:52 AM EST reply actions
i’m not sure this fight even proves anything unless colmen schools lesnar, probably lesnar just outpowers coleman and outworks the 40 yr old
by rawbt on Mar 2, 2008 2:03 AM EST reply actions
If there were knees to the head I could see Coleman winning.
So the McCully fight is off?
by Mr Jitters on Mar 2, 2008 2:09 AM EST reply actions
this isn’t a fight i care to see, much less pay for, i though coleman was more than 225 though, could be wrong. This will be another main event, weeeeee, i wonder how all the other fighters feel when lesnar is getting all the $$ and headliners. Mutiny is in the air, and cbs just accelerated it, ufc is not nearly going to be the monopoly it is now.
remember absolute power corrupts and power corrupts absolutely
dana white has grown a little big for his britches, and it’s because of the publicity and power he holds.
by creagach on Mar 2, 2008 2:30 AM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
Getting to be a farce? What does that even mean? UFC 82 was very entertaining. The fights were great. They have the best fights of any promotion, and the best production.
You don’t deserve to watch the sport you damn cry baby. Always got to bitch about something.
by Cool Hand Chad on Mar 2, 2008 3:07 AM EST reply actions
Who knows if it’ll be the main event. If Coleman/Lesnar is the main event(which I highly doubt) then it may be on free TV. Considering it’s in Brock’s home state of Minnesota they’re milking him for all the money they cna get. Him being on the UFC 81 card garnered a ton more buys than it would have been without him. I’m not saying he’ll be a world champ or whatever,but it’ll be interesting to see how Brock can do vs. the innovator of ground and pound. Mutiny?ahaha I love all these people who “hate” UFC yet still keep up with and watch it. EliteXC on CBS may even be bad for MMA since the ratings may suck and it will give the uneducated ammunition to call it street fighting…especially with Kimbo headlining. Maybe EliteXC will do good and be successful or any other promotions,but if they do I doubt it will put the UFC under. It will bring more competition and each promotion fighting for the best fights and cards. (Fighters and fights, not organizations). And with the cards UFC has had so far and have been announced for this year, seems like they’re upping the ante.
by Dan on Mar 2, 2008 3:34 AM EST reply actions
Coleman is still a huge threat. I’m surprised that the UFC is throwing Lesnar to the wolves again. Lesnar is not fighting cans, that’s for sure. Gotta respect that.
by Dana Blanco on Mar 2, 2008 3:43 AM EST reply actions
Coleman is still a huge threat. I’m surprised that the UFC is throwing Lesnar to the wolves again. Lesnar is not fighting cans, that’s for sure. Gotta respect that.
haha, are you serious? coleman has only taken beating in the last 5 years, I really don’t see any treat for lesnar.
go brock!
by shamo84 on Mar 2, 2008 5:44 AM EST reply actions
WOW! What a let down! Lesnar deserves a better fight then this. This is horrible.
by pete on Mar 2, 2008 6:08 AM EST reply actions
All I can say is wow! So much for that Justin McCully rumor. NO cans for Lesnar. Coleman might be old but is not a nobody by any means. Is this for sure in MN though? In that interview, Coleman said, “Look out, Minnesota.” Then announced he would fight Lesnar. Will this actually be in MN because it seemed that he said that because Brock is from MN? If it is in the Twin Cities!!! Sherk, Lesnar, Huerta. Could shape up nicely.
by PJJ on Mar 2, 2008 6:23 AM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
What other organizations do you want them to cover? Elitexc does a PPV once every 3 or 4 months. It is just now they got PPV down to every other months. WEC is the only other organization that has any shows and they are owned by the UFC. So what other events should they cover? Your argument against Mania is senseless and ridiculous. Nobody here wants to hear how Fedor is fighting another Chump or some third rate kickboxer turned mixed martial artists last week. When there is fighting news that is not laughable at best they do post the info. If you are so against mania and the ufc why are you here then. Go to sherdog or someother of the hundreds blogger sites there are out there.
by Da Monkey on Mar 2, 2008 9:02 AM EST reply actions
I dont know what you were watching, or drinking tonight,(just kidding) GoRandy but i thought UFC 82 was great. As for a shorter PPV the last fight they showed ended at about the 2 hour and 50 minute mark. How much longer could they have possibley went? All 6 matches shown on PPV delivered tonight imo.
They should have aire d the Diego fight after the Kos fight. Diego ended the fight in the 1st round and there was still 10 minutes of Broadcast time after they aired the Koschek fight. They could have fit the Diego fight onto the card!
by john on Mar 2, 2008 9:09 AM EST reply actions
I can’t see Coleman winning this fight I think Lesnar is just gonna be too big for him. I mean he is mainly a wrestler just like Lesnar but I mean Lesnar walks around close to 290 and Coleman around 225 and I dont care how good your are giving up 60 pounds is tough for anyone and with Colemans age I dont know that he can keep up with Lesnars wrestling. I mean Coleman probably has better standup and obviously a lot more mma experience than Lesnar but I see him taking a beating in this one.
Is it just me or did Coleman seem like a shrivled old man last night? He looked like he weighed 210 lbs TOPS
Coleman looked like a shrivled up Vin Diesel. If Coleman wants any shot at beating Brock he is going to have to put some musvcle back on Fast, and not that steroid muscle that he usually ROCKS!
by john on Mar 2, 2008 9:12 AM EST reply actions
Come on now, this is a set up fight for Brock. Styles make the fight and Coleman may not even know a basic rear naked choke. So power on power and Brock gets his win in dominant fashion.
As for the heavyweight division being a joke, Brock isn’t anywhere near a title shot and unlike Elite the UFC put Brock in with a seasoned legitimate although not great heavyweight.
Kimbo’s resume. Ray Mercer 1st Fight and Tank Abbott after his 15th beer. Is there a bigger joke for the face of Elite.
by BaldBull on Mar 2, 2008 9:42 AM EST reply actions
Some of you guys are some dedicated bloggers. U guys were posting stuff from 2:30 am – 6-30 am?
As for the August Minnestota Card. Lesner vs. Coleman better not be the main event. They should hold this event in september that way it would give time for Sherk to recovery from the ass whipping BJ is going to give him and May. Sherk is also from Minnesota and I am sure he would love to compete in front of his home town. Isnt Huerta from Minnesota as well? Maybe he will make his opctagon return at this event.
I dont know about u guys but I am dying to see Huerta vs. Florian!!!!!!
by john on Mar 2, 2008 9:56 AM EST reply actions
Breaking News!!! Anderson Silva Has Tested Postive For….
AWESOMENESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man that guy is somthing else. good for him. I feel bad for dan though. I really like anderson and wanted him to win but man its hard to root against henderson.
by john on Mar 2, 2008 9:58 AM EST reply actions
Anderson Silva “Now I want to fight the 185 boxing champion”
in the post fight video center.
He says along the lines “The boxing guys say that MMA is not technical and is not a noble sport, so I want to fight their boxing champion of 185 in their rules, to show that our sport is very technical”
by john on Mar 2, 2008 10:00 AM EST reply actions
Just watched the Arlovski fight…
Very weird ending. Alrovski wasn’t hitting him with devastating strikes. He even looked to the ref to jump in and stop the fight. It reminded me of when Okami had Swick mounted and was just peppering shots that didn’t do a whole lot of damage
impressive fight overall though. He showed an excellent sprawl. I thought it was funny how he remained mounted a couple of seconds while celebrating after the fight was stopped
by john on Mar 2, 2008 10:01 AM EST reply actions
This was Anderson Silva’s 6th fight in the UFC, if I remember correctly, he signed a 6 fight deal with the UFC and I dont ever remember him getting an extension. Can anyone shed some light onto this subject for me?
by john on Mar 2, 2008 10:05 AM EST reply actions
This was Anderson Silva’s 6th fight in the UFC, if I remember correctly, he signed a 6 fight deal with the UFC and I dont ever remember him getting an extension. Can anyone shed some light onto this subject for me?
you are definitely right, he is gonna leave the ufc, he really doesn’t like it here.
Even if he wants to stay the ufc management will kick his overestimated butt out.
by shamo84 on Mar 2, 2008 10:12 AM EST reply actions
you are definitely right, he is gonna leave the ufc, he really doesn’t like it here.
Even if he wants to stay the ufc management will kick his overestimated butt out.
r u a retard? He is the greatest champion that the UFC has…..he aint going anywhere! Dana white will pay whatever it takes to keep him in the UFC. Silva loves the UFC, and has no intentions of ever leaving as long as they dont disrespect him with bogus contract offers. Also his management team said that Silva’s popularity has cause his clothing line to rake in millions, so Silva is making some serious cheese.
I hope that these contractual negotiations go quick and smooth. Silva is the best champion possible and he fights more times a year than any other champion…. I cant see Dana not “SHOWING SILVA THE MONEY”!!!
by john on Mar 2, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions
I see Mark Coleman as nothing but a can. Lesnar is being fed this famous can just like Kimbo is being fed a steady diet of ex-UFC champions (Tank? Shamrock? ..maybe Tito?)
by Rise of the Machines on Mar 2, 2008 10:26 AM EST reply actions
I see Mark Coleman as nothing but a can. Lesnar is being fed this famous can just like Kimbo is being fed a steady diet of ex-UFC champions (Tank? Shamrock? ..maybe Tito?)
Although I understand your intentions, I wouldn’t put Lesnar (a highly decorated university wrestler an) in the same category as Slice (a street fighter with no real accomplishments). Nor would I put Coleman in the same category as Tank. At any rate, how is Coleman’s comeback really that different in general that Couture’s comeback?
by Muscle Dolphin on Mar 2, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions
No matter how old Mark Coleman is, he is still a fantastic wrestling with still devistating ground and pound, him and Brock Lesnar is a fantastic match-up for both of these guys, and this fight should be an incredible one.
Coleman is only 43, and he defeated Shogun two years ago. A rejuvanted Coleman could make a huge splash in the weak heavyweight division.
Im excited about this fight.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Mar 2, 2008 11:15 AM EST reply actions
I am a big fan of the old wrestlers like ken shamrock, mark coleman, royce gracie. However, as you have seen most fighters that made the ufc what it is today are losing now. Now for the Mark Coleman vs Brock Lesnar fight. Coleman can win this fight but he has to win it in the first round. As frank mir showed lesnar’s legs are his weakness. So if coleman goes for lesnar’s leg in the first round and gets it then coleman is the winner. Lesnar is just gonna have to keep the fight standing thats his only chance of winning. I hope coleman wins.
by No one on Mar 2, 2008 11:36 AM EST reply actions
MARKcoleman is washed up!!! come on just watch him he has no cardio!!!!
and will get hurt by lessnar
by erin on Mar 2, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply actions
I DON’t HAte the ufc or mma i luv it!
BUT!
I HATE DANA WHITE ZUFFA AND THE BROTHERS who run the organization like a crappy old car.
THIS IS ABOUT ME AND THE FANS !!!!
WE the fans should get a say in say 1 or 2 fights on the main card, via votes on the ufc’s website the rest DUMB DUMB joe silva can set up or whatever mob connections he has.
AND the manner in whuch the ufc treats its fighters is terrible admit it !!!!!!!!!!!!
YOu break your hand , you pay for it unless your CHuck Liddell!
COuld you imagine MLb inducting DOn mattingly or someone into the hall of fame and then suing them?!?!?! for BS?!?!?!
THIS IS DAN’s PROBLEM…he makes and takes thinkgs so personal…then
THE UFC BLACkmails sum great fighters like AA, and others . YOU see how the ufc has coached the players to be tight lipped AA didn’t say 1 damned thing in his interview neither did Josh , BECAUSE THEY can’t,
thats messed up!!!
THE FIghters can’t say what they feel cuz dana will x you from your job or put you on a shelf for a year or sue you or…???? who knows
The fighters are so afreaid when asked legitimate questions about stuff. THis is not right, someone needs to come in and clean up the ufc thats all!!!
by erin on Mar 2, 2008 12:14 PM EST reply actions
It might be good seeing brock destroy some easy opponent..
by shamo84 on Mar 2, 2008 12:21 PM EST reply actions
I’m gonna call Kimbo style work ahead of time. Especially if it’s a 1 fight deal for Coleman.
by DirtyML on Mar 2, 2008 12:31 PM EST reply actions
This was Anderson Silva’s 6th fight in the UFC, if I remember correctly, he signed a 6 fight deal with the UFC and I dont ever remember him getting an extension. Can anyone shed some light onto this subject for me?
Read the Zuffa contract clause on champions. If your the recognized champion at the time your contract ends, it can be extended for up to 1 year or 2 fights. Sucks for Silva, because if I were him I would want to negotiate for A LOT more money now.
by ragnarr on Mar 2, 2008 12:32 PM EST reply actions
What an “AWESOME” PPV worth every penny….Leben is the MAN!!!
Every fight was better then I could of hoped for!!!…except for maybe the Finch fight but it was still entertaining :)
AND GORANDY you are an IDIOT go back to your low paying job you BUM….nobody want to here from people who have no idea what there talking about…..GO GET A LIFE….go back to your stamp collection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Bruce on Mar 2, 2008 12:36 PM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
You have too be the dumbest person to have ever come on this site…….Just can’t make some people happy no matter what you Do, even if you put one of the best fight cards of all time on, and then have all the fighters step up and put on a great show, nobody wants to hear how horrible your life is…….do everybody a favor and dont ever post a comment Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Bruce on Mar 2, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions
This was Anderson Silva’s 6th fight in the UFC, if I remember correctly, he signed a 6 fight deal with the UFC and I dont ever remember him getting an extension. Can anyone shed some light onto this subject for me?
you are definitely right, he is gonna leave the ufc, he really doesn’t like it here.
Even if he wants to stay the ufc management will kick his overestimated butt out.
He is the greatest champion that the UFC has…..he aint going anywhere! Dana white will pay whatever it takes to keep him in the UFC. Silva loves the UFC, and has no intentions of ever leaving as long as they dont disrespect him with bogus contract offers. Also his management team said that Silva’s popularity has cause his clothing line to rake in millions, so Silva is making some serious cheese.
I hope that these contractual negotiations go quick and smooth. Silva is the best champion possible and he fights more times a year than any other champion…. I cant see Dana not “SHOWING SILVA THE MONEY”!!!
Have you guys looked at yahoo, msn and etc. Sliva is considered the best fighter and is compared to Tyson.. I think Dana will not let Anderson go, I think Dana learned his lesson with Couture. That would be very bad with business having two champions leave within a year. But publicity. Never happen and where would Silva fight at…. No other place
by Mr.FancyPants on Mar 2, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply actions
[quote comment=“339144”]What an “AWESOME” PPV worth every penny….Leben is the MAN!!!
Every fight was better then I could of hoped for!!!…except for maybe the Finch fight but it was still entertaining :)
i liked the finch fight, the herring kongo fights kinda ruined the nite for me, i was expecting a lot better from both but more from kongo.
by longislandguy on Mar 2, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions
Why would dana bring back this fossil……lesner will tear this guy apart. I know dana wants to hype up lesner but against this fossil is bad. no disrespect to coleman he was great in his prime but this is sad. Another boring ufc card coming on.
by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Mar 2, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions
What an “AWESOME” PPV worth every penny….Leben is the MAN!!!
Every fight was better then I could of hoped for!!!…except for maybe the Finch fight but it was still entertaining :)
i liked the finch fight, the herring kongo fights kinda ruined the nite for me, i was expecting a lot better from both but more from kongo.
Herring really steped it up, was a good fight i thought …..I thought herring was going to bust Kongo’s ribs…lol
by Bruce on Mar 2, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions
Read the Zuffa contract clause on champions. If your the recognized champion at the time your contract ends, it can be extended for up to 1 year or 2 fights. Sucks for Silva, because if I were him I would want to negotiate for A LOT more money now.
U r right. I forgot all about that and it does suck for Silva. At least we wont have to worry about contract negotiations with him for another 2 fights.
by john on Mar 2, 2008 1:48 PM EST reply actions
I actually think Kongo should be taken more seriously after last nights loss than if he would have just KO hearing. We all know Kongo was the much superior striker and the knock on Kongo was that he had no wrestling and weak sprawls. I was actually very impressed by how much he progressed in those areas. By his next fight, which will probably be about 5 months away Juanito will have him looking even more well rounded.
His game plan was very stupid. hearing was more then willing to stand and trade with Kongo the whole night, and Kongo could have destroyed him in a stand up war. Instead he chose to try and show his progression as a more complete fighter and it cost him the win. Even though he lost the fight I was very impressed with his progress in wrestling, sprawling, and scrambling. He looked to be much more complete than we have ever seen him.
Much credit to Hearing who also looked better than ever. It really shows that he has rededicated himself to training which is great because if he keeps up with this kind of work ethic, he could turn into a contender down the line.
There next fights should be:
Kongo vs. Tim Sylvia (who are both coming off losses) and
Frank Mir vs. Hearing (both coming off of wins)
This is the most logical scenario because Brock is booked to fight coleman in August. and Verra vs. Werdum is scheduled for June.
So, I really expect to see Kongo/Sylvia and Hearing/Mir booked as their next fights! U all heard it hear 1st!
by john on Mar 2, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions
this isn’t a fight i care to see, much less pay for, i though coleman was more than 225 though, could be wrong. This will be another main event, weeeeee, i wonder how all the other fighters feel when lesnar is getting all the $$ and headliners. Mutiny is in the air, and cbs just accelerated it, ufc is not nearly going to be the monopoly it is now.
remember absolute power corrupts and power corrupts absolutely
dana white has grown a little big for his britches, and it’s because of the publicity and power he holds.
—WELL SAID!
Now you guys still wanna keep talkin shit on KIMBO when UFC r doing the same for BROCK haha…HOPE IT SHUTS SOME OF YOU UP ABOUT kimbo! and not wanting to take Elitexc serious
coleman=Tank
NO, not worth every penny BTW, they were just OK. I think the free one on SPIKE will be very good since they have a few lightweights fighting!
by blah on Mar 2, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions
PLEASE READ THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont mean to be nit picking or knocking last nights event, because it was one of the best cards EVER but when u analyze the even as a whole, it really isn’t anywhere near as great as it could be and may not be worth $45…. Check it out:
45$ for 56 minutes of fighting(PPV)
I just figured out there was less than an hour of fighting, and over 2 hours of commercials in last nights UFC PPV, we also missed 4 fights. i just sent a hate mail to ufc and you should too! http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.contact go here and send an email.
by john on Mar 2, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions
PLEASE READ THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont mean to be nit picking or knocking last nights event, because it was one of the best cards EVER but when u analyze the even as a whole, it really isn’t anywhere near as great as it could be and may not be worth $45…. Check it out:
45$ for 56 minutes of fighting(PPV)
I just figured out there was less than an hour of fighting, and over 2 hours of commercials in last nights UFC PPV, we also missed 4 fights. i just sent a hate mail to ufc and you should too! http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.contact go here and send an email.
Only chance of getting a better product is by opening our mouths and making ourselves heard. It might not change any thing but its worth a try. After all, it seems as though our letter to spike was instrumental in getting a free 3 our broadcast instead of the originally scheduled 2 hours.
by john on Mar 2, 2008 2:07 PM EST reply actions
I was actually a bit disappointed with 82.
I was hoping for Hendo to really push Silva into the later rounds, and he was just laying there when Silva sunk his hooks in which eventually led to the choke. Sounds unbelievable but it looked like Hendo just stopped fighting.
Never really was excited about Kongo-Herring, but now the Heavyweight division is all screwy. They kept saying that who ever wins is a step closer to the title shot. Well, Herring isn’t anywhere CLOSE to getting a 4th fight with Minotauro. And now that Kongo is going to have to start a comeback trail, it practically guarantees Werdum/Noguieria. Unless they put Arlovski against Noguieria, which would be the absolute best case scenario.
Leben leads with his face, but good fight for him.
Hate Okami, but he’s next for Silva. At least he finished the fight.
I was hoping Fitch would finish Wilson quickly, but you could tell Fitch was getting frustrated. He couldn’t take Wilson down in the fist round hardly at all. I hope it was because he was looking past Wilson and didn’t really expect him to be that good. If not, then his 15 fight win streak is done against GSP (and yes, he will beat Serra). As for Wilson, put him against Kos, or Hazelett.
Speaking of Kos, I don’t like him at all (its his hair), but I enjoyed his fight the most. I was rooting for Hazelett, but it was an action packed fight that delivered.
I was hoping to see Diego and Andrei, but I guess thats what the internet is for. Looking forward to 84. Go BJ!
And BTW, did anyone notice that freak who jumped in front of the camera and started yelling at BJ that he was coming back home to Hawaii? I think it was right after they announced they Herring decision.
by Sparxx on Mar 2, 2008 2:07 PM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
if they are bias its cause the ufc is the only real mma federation out there..randy is a sellout punk good for the ufc for doin what there doin mania keep doin the great work to hell wit the other little stupid po dunk places all they are are a bunch of fighters who wish they were good enough for the ufc bottom line,,and last night we got 6 fights and i dont like kos but that fight was great
by chuckisover-rated on Mar 2, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions
—WELL SAID!
Now you guys still wanna keep talkin shit on KIMBO when UFC r doing the same for BROCK haha…HOPE IT SHUTS SOME OF YOU UP ABOUT kimbo! and not wanting to take Elitexc serious
coleman=Tank
NO, not worth every penny BTW, they were just OK. I think the free one on SPIKE will be very good since they have a few lightweights fighting!
if lesnar and coleman are the main event i wont b gettin that ppv
by chuckisover-rated on Mar 2, 2008 2:18 PM EST reply actions
Only chance of getting a better product is by opening our mouths and making ourselves heard. It might not change any thing but its worth a try. After all, it seems as though our letter to spike was instrumental in getting a free 3 our broadcast instead of the originally scheduled 2 hours.
I agree,
Though much of the commercials and fillers are used to prepare the octagon for the next fight (they can’t just run fighters back to back into the cage, there are probably several safety precautions that need to happen between fights). Also, the introduction and walk in of the fighters do take up a lot of time. I would though like to see some highlights of the non televised portion of the card and limit the amount of commercials that are aired, maybe have an ad for the upcoming event (UFC 83) once or twice in the event, and maybe an announcement or two. What gets to me is why the UFC believes there is a need to hype up the main event so many times. It’s not like the UFC would care if people tune out they already paid 45 for the ppv. They are advertising to me what I have already purchased.
by ragnarr on Mar 2, 2008 2:18 PM EST reply actions
BTW…good job for the spider, i was rooting for HENDO and i thought he had control at the end of the 1st round, but HENDO left his guard down and made the mistake of giving him his back. i kept saying that i thought the spider was more dangerous on his back than his stand up and he certainly proved it.
i still think HENDO knows deep down that he can give him a beating, but like he said, he just got caught, in the same fashion GSP did w serra. OKAMI can be very dangerous for spider! styles make matches. OKAMI will give him a tough time as well…
by blah on Mar 2, 2008 2:26 PM EST reply actions
Mark Coleman? really?
Is that the BEST Dana could come up with?
LMAO and you guys make fun of Elite and Kimbo, if you think this is good matchmaking pass whatever you are smoking to me.
Colman looked like a little old man putting him in with Lesnar would be over in 30 seconds.
Rock on dana!!
by Doggystyo on Mar 2, 2008 2:33 PM EST reply actions
I actually think Kongo should be taken more seriously after last nights loss than if he would have just KO hearing. We all know Kongo was the much superior striker and the knock on Kongo was that he had no wrestling and weak sprawls. I was actually very impressed by how much he progressed in those areas. By his next fight, which will probably be about 5 months away Juanito will have him looking even more well rounded.
His game plan was very stupid. hearing was more then willing to stand and trade with Kongo the whole night, and Kongo could have destroyed him in a stand up war. Instead he chose to try and show his progression as a more complete fighter and it cost him the win. Even though he lost the fight I was very impressed with his progress in wrestling, sprawling, and scrambling. He looked to be much more complete than we have ever seen him.
Much credit to Hearing who also looked better than ever. It really shows that he has rededicated himself to training which is great because if he keeps up with this kind of work ethic, he could turn into a contender down the line.
There next fights should be:
Kongo vs. Tim Sylvia (who are both coming off losses) and
Frank Mir vs. Hearing (both coming off of wins)
This is the most logical scenario because Brock is booked to fight coleman in August. and Verra vs. Werdum is scheduled for June.
So, I really expect to see Kongo/Sylvia and Hearing/Mir booked as their next fights! U all heard it hear 1st!
I agree that he has shown a lot of improvement with respect to takedowns. Now he needs to learn what to do once he has his opponent down. He could really benefit from some time with BJ Penn. He needs to learn how to try to get out of holds. Last night it seemed that whenever Herring was on top of him he just held on. IMHO if he could improve in those areas he would be a real formidable contender.
by Muscle Dolphin on Mar 2, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply actions
Coleman is ending up in the hospital after this one
If Brock doesn’t have the threat of being subbed….G N P ALL day baby
by UFCPreview.com on Mar 2, 2008 2:37 PM EST reply actions
I agree,
Though much of the commercials and fillers are used to prepare the octagon for the next fight (they can’t just run fighters back to back into the cage, there are probably several safety precautions that need to happen between fights). Also, the introduction and walk in of the fighters do take up a lot of time. I would though like to see some highlights of the non televised portion of the card and limit the amount of commercials that are aired, maybe have an ad for the upcoming event (UFC 83) once or twice in the event, and maybe an announcement or two. What gets to me is why the UFC believes there is a need to hype up the main event so many times. It’s not like the UFC would care if people tune out they already paid 45 for the ppv. They are advertising to me what I have already purchased.
OMG what is with all you people…..how about paying for a boxing PPV…..you get 2crap under cards and a main event for the price ranging from$40-$60 last night we got 6 great fights for $45….like SERIOUSLY!!!!!!
by Bruce on Mar 2, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions
it was a great card
people whine when it goes to a decision
and now they whine because the fights were early stoppages as they feel they didnt get their moneys worth
colemans speech sounded a bit slurred
hope he was just drunk and its nothing serious
coleman lesnar is nothing like abbott kimbo
coleman is still a well trained athlete whose gone up agaibst the best fighters in the world recently
tank is an overweight out of shape joke who has no place in modern mma
he was ok back when it was like a streetfight but no more
this is a tough fight for lesnar
if before the mmir fight id been asked who was the tougher match for lesnar id probably have said coleman
at a time when ufc is crying out for a HW to come challenge NOG its a serious chance for coleman to get back in the ring and get a shot at the belt
i honestly think theyd of been tempted to give brock a shot if hed won against mir
AA and diego fights should of been shown
by nate diaz on Mar 2, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply actions
It was mentioned on here a while ago but why not charge an extra $10-$15 to see all the fights? Start the night at like 7:30-8:00 est. time and show the whole thing?
by SpiderStyle on Mar 2, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions
Mania, Can you verify this is in Minnesota?
I’ve never been to an event and this would be the perfect graduation gift to ask from my parents so I’m F*ckin Pumped if they finally are coming to Minnesota. I considered doing a road trip to Ohio, and then looked at a map and that’s a Long drive.
by UFCmn89 on Mar 2, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions
THE UFC IS TERRIBLE each ppv getz shorter n shorter and we, the fans get short changed- for less fights and they increase the price ….
i would like to see at least fighters i paid for in the past like AA who won via strikes and diego sanchez who won by strikes ..i didnt want to see josh K.
I hate him.
why dont we the fans get a say in the match ups????!?!?!?!?!!?
THE UFC IS GETTING TO BE A FARCE!
watch… Coleman and others will be sued and brought to trial by zuffa and dana and co. for steroids, look at what they did to the last ufc hall o shamer randy cotoure—-the ufc is suing him …get off your high horse UFC you are not GOD!!!!!
down with the ufc and MANIA you use to be ufcmania but the ufc threatened you, you’ll never admit that it was part of your decision to change your websites name.
the ufc is a don king monopoly! and we the fans who visit your site here and pa for your site and pay the ufc better listen cuz you’re losing long time fans, people whom have spent thousands of dollars on the ufc,
START COVERING other organizations with EQUAL weight!!!!!!!
YOU are biased to the ufc and everyone knows it!!!!
Lots of other sites out there bub.
This started of as UFCmania, the bias is well known. The fans of this site came for that
by Jas on Mar 2, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions
if u people think this is just going to be a walk on through fight think again. lesnar is just way to cocky for his own good and i bet he feels the same as you guys about this fight but that is a BIG mistake. lesnar didn’t take frank mir as much of a problem for him and he lost and lost quick. he was almost out and he tapped. COME ON! can you say OVER-RATED! and OVER PAYED! a real fighter would not have tapped so easy. i think coleman will be a tougher fight then you all give him cerdit. he lasted against fedor las t time they fought. now he gets 5 months he’s got more then enough time to get ready. it really depends on how lesnar takes this fight if he takes coleman as a joke HE WILL LOSS but if he takes him as a good challenge it should be a good fight if colemans heart & mind are still in the game. but with lesnar mind set i think he is going to loss and be 0-2 in the ufc. COLEMAN IS NO JOKE! YES HE IS OLD BUT SO IS RANDY and you all know what he can do.
by jimbo on Mar 2, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions
This is crazy, Coleman sure picked the wrong fight to jump back into action with.
by The Anomaly on Mar 2, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply actions
itll be interesting to see lesnar against someone who doesnt go for submissions but rather has the same skill set…
coleman is old (43) but his last couple of fights have been against some good competition, that being said i dont really see him pulling off a “fathertime couture”
i think the bigger, younger lesnar wins this matchup convincingly
by mctapout on Mar 2, 2008 4:08 PM EST reply actions
Just watched the Arlovski fight…
Very weird ending. Alrovski wasn’t hitting him with devastating strikes. He even looked to the ref to jump in and stop the fight. It reminded me of when Okami had Swick mounted and was just peppering shots that didn’t do a whole lot of damage
impressive fight overall though. He showed an excellent sprawl. I thought it was funny how he remained mounted a couple of seconds while celebrating after the fight was stopped
where?
by b.w. on Mar 2, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions
no one said it would be in minnesota yet nothing is signed and delivered all coleman said was watch out minnesota and that he would fight lesnar doesn’t mean they will venue there they might but unless it is offical don’t get your damm hopes up,
by bryant on Mar 2, 2008 5:23 PM EST reply actions
UFC is sliding. I hate to say it but Elite XC’s Kimbo vs Tank compares favorably with Lesnar vs Coleman…. I don’t know what’s more tragic, the return of Tank or the return of Coleman. Bad bad bad…… ’08 the year of the has been vs the freak?. That said, SURELY we all hold Kimbo in higher regard than Lesnar? Kimbo- the hardened, dare i say fairly well rounded, street fighter vs Lesnar- the over developed, chickened legged circus performer (actually that might be worth watching. Kimbo might be all over Lesnar?). Basically the UFC is putting on a B grade version of a B grade Elite XC match up……
by Rilly on Mar 2, 2008 5:49 PM EST reply actions
This is the UFC’s equivalent to Kimbo vs. Tank!
by Curtis Clontz on Mar 2, 2008 6:33 PM EST reply actions
no one said it would be in minnesota yet nothing is signed and delivered all coleman said was watch out minnesota and that he would fight lesnar doesn’t mean they will venue there they might but unless it is offical don’t get your damm hopes up,
i agree. if it is not in writing it will not happen. we minnesotans won’t have one here i don’t think. i really hope they do. cause i would love to go. i putting money aside just in case.
by jimbo on Mar 2, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions
it was a great card
people whine when it goes to a decision
and now they whine because the fights were early stoppages as they feel they didnt get their moneys worth
colemans speech sounded a bit slurred
hope he was just drunk and its nothing serious
coleman lesnar is nothing like abbott kimbo
coleman is still a well trained athlete whose gone up agaibst the best fighters in the world recently
tank is an overweight out of shape joke who has no place in modern mma
he was ok back when it was like a streetfight but no more
this is a tough fight for lesnar
if before the mmir fight id been asked who was the tougher match for lesnar id probably have said coleman
at a time when ufc is crying out for a HW to come challenge NOG its a serious chance for coleman to get back in the ring and get a shot at the belt
i honestly think theyd of been tempted to give brock a shot if hed won against mir
AA and diego fights should of been shown
damn dude, send me some of the sh*t you are smoking because it seems to be working pretty well..
coleman the worst match-up for lesnar and with the possibility for a shot at the title ?!
by shamo84 on Mar 2, 2008 7:08 PM EST reply actions
[quote comment=“338887”]Some of you guys are some dedicated bloggers. U guys were posting stuff from 2:30 am – 6-30 am?
come on, you can do better. I’ve sometime posted at 4:00 am but still sleeping the whole night in my bed. what’s the solution?
by shamo84 on Mar 2, 2008 7:13 PM EST reply actions
Mania, Can you verify this is in Minnesota?
I’ve never been to an event and this would be the perfect graduation gift to ask from my parents so I’m F*ckin Pumped if they finally are coming to Minnesota. I considered doing a road trip to Ohio, and then looked at a map and that’s a Long drive.
It will be at UFC 87 August 9th in Minnesota. However UFC 86 hasnt been announced yet
by john on Mar 2, 2008 8:42 PM EST reply actions
I will bet you all that the next fights will be
Hearing vs. Mir and Kongo vs. Sylvia
by john on Mar 2, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions
if this so called head liner goes badly for lesnar[which i dont think itll last more then a minute ]it could wreck the hullabahloo and uproar lesnar is going to create …this may backfire in danas face …but then people will complain about this fight if it doesnt make it past rnd one …or if its too one sided then joe silva gets the kick in the nuts ….joe u gotta great job …but sometimes id hate to be u…but maybe mark asked dana for the fight im not sure of the facts …does anyone know????
by kingger on Mar 2, 2008 10:16 PM EST reply actions
the next hwt fights are as follows
ufc 83
no heavyweights
ufc84
wellisch vs carwin
ufc85
brandon vera vs fabricio werdum
ufc86
herring vs arlovski
mir vs nogueira
ufc87
sylvia vs hinkle
coleman vs lesnar
by kingger on Mar 2, 2008 10:26 PM EST reply actions
This is the UFC’s equivalent to Kimbo vs. Tank!
Surely a fair comparison!?!?
by Rilly on Mar 2, 2008 11:18 PM EST reply actions
Why would dana bring back this fossil……lesner will tear this guy apart. I know dana wants to hype up lesner but against this fossil is bad. no disrespect to coleman he was great in his prime but this is sad. Another boring ufc card coming on.
Good call O’08
by Rilly on Mar 2, 2008 11:22 PM EST reply actions
—WELL SAID!
Now you guys still wanna keep talkin shit on KIMBO when UFC r doing the same for BROCK haha…HOPE IT SHUTS SOME OF YOU UP ABOUT kimbo! and not wanting to take Elitexc serious
coleman=Tank
NO, not worth every penny BTW, they were just OK. I think the free one on SPIKE will be very good since they have a few lightweights fighting!
Dam….I’m reading bottom up and i just realised i stole your material. Sorry man…Great minds as they say.
by Rilly on Mar 2, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions
—WELL SAID!
Now you guys still wanna keep talkin shit on KIMBO when UFC r doing the same for BROCK haha…HOPE IT SHUTS SOME OF YOU UP ABOUT kimbo! and not wanting to take Elitexc serious
coleman=Tank
NO, not worth every penny BTW, they were just OK. I think the free one on SPIKE will be very good since they have a few lightweights fighting!
Dam….I’m reading bottom up and i just realised i stole your material. Sorry man…Great minds as they say.
by Rilly on Mar 2, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions
I still couldn’t believe in Lesnar’s last fight that Stone Cold and the Undertake didn’t come into the octagon and it Mir with a Chair.. I swear it was coming
by Mr.FancyPants on Mar 3, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions
colmens gonna get beaten into retirement, but unlike many mma fighters brock will do it sloppy, with a couple of fists to the back of the head or maybe a mma clinc from brock ;)
by rawbt on Mar 3, 2008 2:08 AM EST reply actions
you are all complaining but in the end you will still watch all ufc events & even pay for its Pay per views.
dont tell that you’ll paying for it & then you dont like it,
B*LLSH*IT!
by mad_drummer on Mar 3, 2008 7:24 AM EST reply actions
IMO….Coleman would have been a better first fight for Brock. Same skill set, different generation. Youth and enthusiasm vs age and experience. Name a better match up to bring Lesnar along. That’s what is important…bringing him along like you would any other young/new fighter.
Brock has to fight somebody and The Hammer is a good match. Plus…I’m sure the UFC will pay the Hammer well for this fight and it’s been a while since Coleman had a big payday.
Like it or not both Brock and Coleman will put asses in seats and that means money and PPV buys. This is a business after all.
The Kimbo/Tank fight obviously worked out well for EliteXC but they now have to come up with an opponent for Kimbo that is at least half ass respectable to maintain the ground they gained in the Tank fight. The CBS deal (IMO) will put a huge amount of pressure on them to avoid “spectacle” and retain (or regain ) legitimacy.
My opinions only…YMMV.
by Borocker on Mar 3, 2008 8:50 AM EST reply actions
k ,first of all hwo can any one compare tank abbot to mark coleman????their styles are the most opposite to any fighters ,also mark won ncaa,whats tank done …this is nothing like kimbo/tank
by kingger on Mar 3, 2008 10:08 AM EST reply actions
y is everyone here comparing tank abbott to mark coleman. Mark coleman is a is a former NCAA champion, olympic wrestler, 1st ever UFC heavyweight champion, Pride grand prix open weight champion, and 1 of the foundibng fathers of this sport. Tank abbott is a shitty fighter with a shitty record who has dune nothing in this sport for nearly 2 decades thats y kimbo slice beat his ass. i think coleman could beat kimbo. i believe this will be a could fight not a fight of the year but a good fight non-the-less with brock comin out on top.
by JMas on Mar 3, 2008 10:45 AM EST reply actions
what a freak show is this a joke lesnar the wanna be can crusher whats next.well after he loses to coleman maybe they can line him up to fight tank.
by roy on Mar 3, 2008 11:58 AM EST reply actions
It will be at UFC 87 August 9th in Minnesota. However UFC 86 hasnt been announced yet
Thanks John
You seem to be easily the most educated blogger. Where do you get all this info? Does your career involve mma at all?
by ufcmn89 on Mar 3, 2008 12:29 PM EST reply actions
The UFC sucks for promoting this fight. It’s a joke!
by pete on Mar 3, 2008 1:49 PM EST reply actions
I actually think Kongo should be taken more seriously after last nights loss than if he would have just KO hearing. We all know Kongo was the much superior striker and the knock on Kongo was that he had no wrestling and weak sprawls. I was actually very impressed by how much he progressed in those areas. By his next fight, which will probably be about 5 months away Juanito will have him looking even more well rounded.
His game plan was very stupid. hearing was more then willing to stand and trade with Kongo the whole night, and Kongo could have destroyed him in a stand up war. Instead he chose to try and show his progression as a more complete fighter and it cost him the win. Even though he lost the fight I was very impressed with his progress in wrestling, sprawling, and scrambling. He looked to be much more complete than we have ever seen him.
Much credit to Hearing who also looked better than ever. It really shows that he has rededicated himself to training which is great because if he keeps up with this kind of work ethic, he could turn into a contender down the line.
There next fights should be:
Kongo vs. Tim Sylvia (who are both coming off losses) and
Frank Mir vs. Hearing (both coming off of wins)
This is the most logical scenario because Brock is booked to fight coleman in August. and Verra vs. Werdum is scheduled for June.
So, I really expect to see Kongo/Sylvia and Hearing/Mir booked as their next fights! U all heard it hear 1st!
Really? I think we were watching different fights. I didn’t think that Kongo even wanted to stand and trade with Herring. Heath got the better of every exchange that I can remember.
by ViolentMike on Mar 3, 2008 4:03 PM EST reply actions
This is fucking awesome, cant wait for this fight….
by Curt on Mar 3, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions
who do u think would in a ufc fight win lesnar or kimbo?
by rhobra90 on Mar 6, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions
I would really like to see Brock versus Tim Sylvia, it should be a really good match, both being strikers. I know Tim can hit for a very long time without getting tired, but i don’t know about brock, all of his fight have been very short. it would be a matter of resistance.
by Edu on Mar 11, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
I’m amazed that this has been announced, since I’m on the MN Boxing Commission and we have not heard about or discussed this event in any way, shape, or form. The UFC hasn’t addressed the Commission (possible this is happening behind our back with Scott the E.D.) I believe we should have answers to this after the April 7th meeting…Anyone interested is invited to attend
by Commissioner on Mar 29, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
Mn boxing commission is a joke! All you guys want is the extra money that the MMA brings in. You guys fail to show at events, fail to understand the rules, fail at bringing boxing/mma or any combat sport of high caliber to the state. Your crooked, self serving individuals and its what’s wrong with boxing and what is happening in the MMA world!
by Commissions are worthless on Mar 30, 2008 6:35 AM EDT reply actions
you sound a little jaded and paranoid. What extra money is MMA bringing in exactly? The entire commission is Volunteer, only the ED is paid. I’ve been in Martial Arts for 20 years and was appointed last December because they needed people who understand the rules/regulations of the sport. It’s tough to be crooked and self serving when you have to pay and give up your free time to serve isn’t it???
Tell me how is bringing in a UFC event for one night going to help the local fighters/promoters/trainers? You are out of touch, the promoters and trainers that have talked to me don’t like the idea of bringing in “out of towners” for the big show at the target center and would rather us focus on helping them have a successful event. Support your local fighters!
You are obviously just a “fan” and not a fighter otherwise you would know that we only have two responsibilities, Safety and Fairness.
by Commissioner on Mar 31, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
Interesting! Where to being… To speak of extra money is simple! MMA is doing more and more shows in MN and being able to attach yourself to all MMA is to attach yourself to 1500 in event fees, not to mention personal fees to keep commission licenses up to date. Which is paid to the commission!
To touch on your UFC one night event is really quite simple for a person with understanding of where BROCK (yes Brock the X gopher) came from. You see he is a Minnesota fighter and trains in Minnesota! So by bringing in the UFC we are helping our local boys! We get recognition as fighters and a fighters state every time a “local boy” “local trainer” gets recognized on the big stages!
To speak to local trainers and promoters as a defense is weak! Local trainers/promoters do not want the competition of ticket revenue from events like the UFC. They want to be the only shows in town to promote fights that look legit but, when compared to “A” class fighters, the promotions they do with the fighters they have are second rate! This is not the promoters fault, its the Commissions! If promoters didn’t have to pay SOO much in fees just to do an event they could bring in better fighters for better shows and even pay these fighters more money! So really, the blame is on you for ripping off promoters that are trying to promote the sport and local fighters because you have your hand in their pockets before anyone else even has a chance! You say you do this to promote “safety and fairness” but, you didn’t respond to my obvious statement in my previous post with regards to commissioners or your lackeys not even showing at events!
To reply to your “you are obviously just a fan.” Let me just say this: I have 10 plus years of ring experience with 6 yes 6 titles so my record speaks for itself sir. Also, I wouldn’t need to be a fighter to understand to politics of your commission sir and how it weakens the sport. You sir are misguided with your understanding of the commission and its “benefits.” Your the reason we have less shows. Your the reason we have less promoter. Your the reason casinos now have the action and power. You failed the sport. You failed martial arts! Self serving power hungry corruption of the commissions is equally as terrible as don king was to boxing!
by Commissions are worthless on Apr 1, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
quite the drama.
what exactly are your 6 titles, unkown titles don’t speak for themselves? Feel free to come to the April 7th meeting and voice your discord, and talk with the other promoters/trainers/and fighters who take the time and interest to show up. If you need directions I’m sure Mike Reilley from team bison can give them to you, he’s at every meeting, usually early.
I have no problem at all with the Indian casinos hosting events, do you have a problem with this? They have the venue and don’t have to deal with any of the red tape that we face to get things done.
Which shows would you be talking about in 2008 that has had no shows of the commission? Everyone quit in 2007 and there are now 9 volunteer commissioners on board, and since then I believe that we have been at every show, perhaps you are referring to before they appointed “members with knowledge of MMA”. Yes the commission is making so much money off of MMA that it still is not “self sufficient” as mandated, and now we as commissioners have been asked to give more time as volunteer and give up our 50 cents per mile gas money,,,I can see how all this money would go to my head.
If you were coming to the meetings you would know that we are adapting the same unified rules/regulations used in most other states that allow MMA events, and also beginning the process of starting an armature MMA. The past Commission made A LOT of mistakes, I’ll give you that. But unless you are coming to the meetings and voicing your opinion you are just another anonymous poster. Also we have made available all of the commissioners e-mail addresses on-line in order to provide communication. April 7th 7pm, Blaine Sports Center.
by Commissioner on Apr 1, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
Let’s do this;
I’m Commissioner Ridler, I’m the owner and head instructor of Ridler’s Martial Arts Academy. We currently have about 140 students training in Karate and JuJitsu. I’m a 2nd degree black belt in TKD (world tae kwon do assoc.), a 3rd degree black belt in JuJitsu (United States Martial Arts Assoc.) and a 3rd degree black belt in Karate (B.B.F.I.), and named into the united states martial arts hall of fame 2006. All of these can be checked out and verified.
Feel free to share your info so it can also be verified and we remove the anonymous curtain.
You go back and forth between “local fighters are great and need recognition” to “local fighters are second rate”? Don’t you think that if the Commission was power hungry and self serving, bringing in UFC would just feed that ego? If you come to the meeting you would learn that the current commission is trying to lower the fees involved including the mandatory insurance requirement and fighter dues…
I’m assuming that you are against ALL commissions and oversight or authority. what year are you 6 titles from? pre-commission? Are we talking MMA or tough man?
by Commissioner on Apr 1, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions
To inform the less informed!
2008 is the year you speak of as your basis but, the year is only 3 months old so I’ll obviously have to speak of track records. If the commission is trying to lower the fees and insurance please give more detail as to how your trying to do that so the rest of us on this blog can watch this “new volunteer commission” follow through with its promises!
To speak of casinos as a negative was only to prove that promoters are now going to casinos to avoid the commission because of the way it operates, the fees, etc… No one, not even you would imply I was being discriminatory! At least I hope not.
With regards to your stating i said “local fighters are second rate.” If you would have paid attention to what I wrote you would have understood my comments with regards to the fighters they bring in. (ie out of town fighters coming to town) If you knew as much as you think you do, you would not need me to explain the economics of the promotion business. The commission takes money that could go to getting more quality fighters from out of town thus, making substantially better fights.
To answer Ridler, let me say this: Your a karate instructor! Not a fighter! I spent time in the ring. Years in fact. To speak of accolades as a basis for my argument or that I should somehow not be anonymous in my writing so you could validate my point is pointless! Let me give you a history lesson sir, Our country was founded on Anonymous writing! Does being anonymous make them or this less credible? Does giving you my name and my “unknown titles” make me more credible to you? I need not be credible to you. I am only pointing out the facts of the state of the commission in Minnesota! You sir are misguided in the fact that you listed your accolades as if they would impress me or anyone else reading this.
In closing commissioners good luck with your schemes and the political “red tape” you create! If you truly wanted to help the sport, you’d ban this commission and fight against any future commissions! They remove the local small business promoters out and make way for those with the money and political backing to keep fighting sports corrupt and self serving. Learn from your history fellas or be doomed to repeat it!
by Commissions are worthless on Apr 2, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
I thought as much.
Yes I do believe that anonymous postings carry no weight to anyone at all and anything that can not be verified can not be believed or taken seriously.
The current bill going through the state legislature has all of the info on the changes. As a Commission we will be dealing with this very topic in great detail on April 7th, because we don’t like the way some things are worded. But rather than list everything in the bill here, put in some time and look it up or talk to any of the “real” trainers/fighters/promoters what is going on and I’m sure they can tell you…some in great detail (Team Bison again) they have had a great deal of influence and input with the “New” commission.
2008 is the only year I’m concerned with because it is the only year that they have 4 commissioners just for MMA.
by commissioner on Apr 2, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions
Exactly!
Uneducated!
History speaks for itself sir. Your failure to understand the idea of being anonymous is exactly why the minnesota commission is a joke! You believe that your position gives you the right to value or under value a persons opinion just because they choose to be anonymous! I can verify that you have never stepped foot into a ring or cage but, you believe you can speak of such things or even make rules for or against without any perspective! You expected the I’m a black belt in this or I’m a black belt in that to mean something. I could buy a black belt from numerous martial arts schools but, that doesn’t mean I’m a black belt. You say your a black belt in this or that but, you have never stepped foot into the ring. You speak of something you know nothing about!
I would love for you as a commissioner and a supposed supporter of the sport and the commission to educate us “uneducated” and simply post the rules you expect to change, why you expect them to be changed, and the benefit of such changes.
Also sir, if I weren’t as educated as I am, I believe that I would explain who I am and you sir would apologize for your comments with regards to the titles I hold! As I am certain sir that you are not challenging my abilities. I do not challenge your sir, out of respect as you should do!
by Commissions are worthless on Apr 2, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
Brock in my mind will come out on top i mean seriously,in his fisrt two fights he was in control the whole time he never even got hit,he overpower mir and the other guy not to mention they got hurt bad.The first time lesnar showed up he just had a couple of months of expirience and now he has had more training ahas 5 more months to prepare,you can’t actually think that the 43 year old guy will come out on top even if he was the best or whatever.Whether you like it or not brock will win now that he got’s more experience,who knows how more of a animal he is now.GO BROCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by brock maganz on Apr 18, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
Mark Coleman live around were i live. And can usually be found in my high schools wrestling room. He has been walking around telling everyone that he is going to fight Lesnar. And if you asked me Lesnar is going to win. Mark coleman does not train he spend most of his time at the mma gyms and the wrestling room watching other people train. Even if you ask his friends if he will win they will highly doubt it.
by teri on Apr 19, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
This is a setup fight for Lesnar just like the his last fight only, he lost!!! Brock is (right now) very overrated and over paid compared to the other fighters that do win! He will probably be a good UFC fighter someday but, he will NEVER win a UFC title. Not that the heavyweights are that great right now but, he just has ZERO technique compared to some of these guys. All that mass and muscle means nothing if you can’t use it to your advantage and he thought and probably still does think that his size and intimidation will win the fight! No Brock, you actually have to be good to win fights! Good Luck to Mark Coleman on his taking a dive for the right price so that the UFC can headline the freak show! The UFC should have paid Randy his money and kept a true fighter in the heavyweight division as long as they could.
by Steve on Apr 21, 2008 2:06 AM EDT reply actions
Uh guys, I know you like to stay optimistic and say this guy can beat Lesnar… but seriously, if Lesnar (265 lbs, 30 years old, in phenomenal shape), loses to a 43 year old man who hasn’t found in the UFC for 5-6 years. It will be an epic fail.
Which is why I’m cheering for Coleman XD
by Nick on Apr 21, 2008 4:20 AM EDT reply actions
I’m very confident that brock will knock down Coleman. He is really serious in keep learning n training to be a great fighter in UFC world and if he got some special techniques, no one can beat him. He will be a winner for the match, Trust me…
by Anzee on Aug 30, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions

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