1st EEK :)

Good line up looking forward to it already. Hope TITo loses!!

I am impressed. The UFC is putting on great cards!

One of the best cards ever. I think Thiago Silva will shut down all that talk about Rashad being top 10. When is Gouveia going to get a big name fighter?

I really want to go to this one. Does anyone know if they raised the price of the seats? When I went to Chuck vs Rampage I paid $750 per seat and wasn’t even on the floor.

I am curious to see what tito’s next move will be. After that interview he stated he has a secret project on the rise. I know his name has huge recognition but jesus hes not that damn great.

The UFC shouldn’t have any reason to have bad cards anymore I would think. Never know with Dana though.

Why is Tito the burrito’s face front and center?

heres another example of tito having legitimate gripes with the ufc…hes been badmouthing dana and zuffa hard and look who’s front and center?
tito sells fights…i hope he comes out and gnp stoppage machida, flicks off dana white and just walks out of the cage..that would be hilarious

Why is Tito the burrito’s face front and center?

I dont know if this is mania’s doing or not. But this is why I have lost some “love” for Tito. He use to be my favorite fighter, but the whole “poor pitiful me” attitude is a little tiresome. His fight against Rashad, he was top billing when there were better fights than his his. And if this is the UFC’s doing then he has nothing to gripe about his marketing.

And this is how Dana treats someone he cant stand? Tito isnt going anywhere, IMO.

I’m expecting 3 wins for the brazilians in the same night! war wandy, war thiago, war machida!

Does anyone know how much tix usually are?

i must agree with this UFC card. it’s freakin’ AWESOME!!!

no matter what anyone says… BJ all the way!!!!
BJ, by second round submission(rear naked choke).

Does anyone know how much tix usually are?

Last year at the MGM the best seats were $750 then $500. I think even the nose bleeds were like $200. They probably rasied them just like the PPV, but I am not sure.

MMAmania………..

Did you guys put together and photoshop the pic in this post?? I was just curious because I couldnt see the UFC doing anyhting at all Tito related, even if it may help sell. I just cant see Tito on the front for UFC 84 banners

Last year at the MGM the best seats were $750 then $500. I think even the nose bleeds were like $200. They probably rasied them just like the PPV, but I am not sure.

im going to columbus for 82 and they cheapest seats were like 52 bucks but they may be more expensive in vegas

Well it looks like this may be the last time tito fights in the ufc,and it also will be a the biggest seller ppv since the tito /liddell fight. good luck ufc in replacing this great fighter and remember b-4 its too late….TITO SELLS PPV CAUSE EVERBODY WANTS TO SEE WHAT HE DOES NEXT!

MMAmania………..

Did you guys put together and photoshop the pic in this post?? I was just curious because I couldnt see the UFC doing anyhting at all Tito related, even if it may help sell. I just cant see Tito on the front for UFC 84 banners

Like i stated earlier,tito sells ppv and the ufc is gonna miss that.

WANDERLEI SILVA confirms that the fight between him and Jardine at UFC 84 has been made official!

What an addition to an excellent fight card!

Intresting how at one point sherk testing positive for banned substances was thought to be a big blow to the UFC, but now its created so much drama with BJ winning the vacant title that it has hyped up the BJ sherk showdown to be the biggest lightwieght fight ever.

Intresting how at one point sherk testing positive for banned substances was thought to be a big blow to the UFC, but now its created so much drama with BJ winning the vacant title that it has hyped up the BJ sherk showdown to be the biggest lightwieght fight ever.

yeah, they made a great job in hyping the lightweight championship

I cant believe I will be actually rooting for Tito Ortiz

although he has about as much of a chance beating Machida as K Shamrock had at beating him

Once Tito defeats Machida it will force the Fertitas to resign him to another contract.
Rashad and Silva looks to be a great match up!

Tito is in his own little world.
The guy has only looked good against Shamrock the last 3 years. He lost the Vitor and Griffin fights.

He looked terrible against Evans. He doesnt deserve a raise. He still puts butts in seats and brings in PPV dollars, but his elite fighting days are long gone.

I look forward to Lyoto beating this douche bag into next week.

PS.Someone tell Tito to give back the money he stole from Tanks glovebox.

I think Silva finishes Rashad. Look for him to make a serious move in the LH Division

I don’t know how Rashad is going to be able to handle Thiago Silva, I really don’t. I also think it’s odd that so many people say that Tito isn’t top five, or isn’t even top ten, and that he hasn’t done anything in years (even though he beat Rashad, the tie was a result of the subtracted point) Even with the subtracted point I thought Tito beat Rashad. And Bisping beat Rashad (in my book). Rashad has had too many chances and Thiago’s gonna shut him down. Back to Tito, I am positive that he will be the toughest test of Machida’s career to this point; Tito IS top five; Since Tito’s loss to Frank Shamrock back in the day he’s racked up 11 wins with 3 losses. The 3 losses are 2 KOs to Chuck Liddell (who is definitely top five LHW) and one decision to Randy Couture (who definitely was top five LHW) The 11 wins include wins over Yuki Kondo, Vladimir Matyushenko, Patrick Cote, Ken Shamrock, Vitor Belfort, Forrest Griffin, and Wanderlei Silva. So, what I want to know, is where did he drop out of the top five? No one from a lower rank has beaten him, and he has some VERY impressive wins; TITO IS THE NUMBER FIVE LHW IN THE WORLD!

I think beating up on poor Ken Shamrock three times made people forget that Tito knows how to handle his business. People like to say that Forrest beat Tito in their fight, and it’s a decent argument when you look at the fight round by round. However, Forrest Griffin was beaten by like an elderly woman in the first round, and showed some of the worst off-your-back technique I have ever witnessed in MMA at any level. I’d love to see that fight again I predict we’d see more of what we saw in the first round, and much less of what we saw in the other rounds.

Tito should be rematching Wanderlei. I’m seriously disappointed in the UFC for not pursuing that fight.

I forgot to insert Evan Tanner with the names of people Tito has beat in the last 8 years.

I can’t fckn wait.

tito is in some big trouble. ;-)

Good card…..I think Tito and Rashad are in trouble.

If anyone wants some help getting tix, I can get you a shot on the 28th. E-mail me at Wildfire@scrubsports.com

Not a fan of Tito, but I hope he somehow by some miracle knocks Machida out with GnP….that would be priceless

One of the best cards ever. I think Thiago Silva will shut down all that talk about Rashad being top 10. When is Gouveia going to get a big name fighter?

I agree Thiago is better all around than Rashad. I love Gouveia. He has good submission skills with KO power and punishing leg kicks. He needs to fight a big name. Maybe Bonnar?

If Tito wins it will be sooooo fricking cool…… Tito back as a top four contender!! Gold!!
Silva will literally eat Evans alive, head first….
Don’t know about Wandi v Big Keith….Could be fight of the night…..
I hope Shirk Smahes Penn. I hate that arrogant little freak….

Wandi won’t take The Dean lightly like Chucky did. I think Wandi comes in with his snorkel (I know he not training with it this time) and cuts The Dean in half with some mad stand up skills. Keith will be overwhelmed by the fury of Wani!!
I still can decide if I like Tito, but I really want him to lose to see what he keeps promising. On Howard Stern he keep saying he had something big planned (maybe a win in UFC 84). I kind of thought he would unionize the fighters to really piss off Dana and Zuffa. Not half bad of an idea, pay these boys more and hopefully get better fighters. Exactly opposite of a normal union (pay more for less work).

Hey, Mania, how about doing a piece on the’UFC for sale’ rumors, and Vince McMahon as a possible suitor. I’d be interested to see if you had anything on it.

I knew it!! Pissin me off dangit, why is Ttio front and center, it’s about Penn and Sherk, NOT Tito!

If anyone wants some help getting tix, I can get you a shot on the 28th. E-mail me at Wildfire@scrubsports.com

How is this different than being a fight club member?

nice card

i wouldnt bank on this being titos last fight for the ufc

hes still a massive ppv draw and dana is smart enough to not let personal issues cost the company big money

a couple of people like captain america have had tantrums as has tito in the past which were resolved but professional sports are a strange business especially fighting

owners and managers and coaches can despise a player or fighter on a personal level but it doesnt mean they cant work together

I knew it!! Pissin me off dangit, why is Ttio front and center, it’s about Penn and Sherk, NOT Tito!

Mania must be on Tito’s payroll or something. That photo is not found anywhere else. Obviously made up to praise “Huntington Beach Bad Boy”…what a douche.

This site is going downhill along with Tito’s career.

tito is great fighter against b level opponents, but not against true top fighters =P

hehe Tito wins this fight so easy. Machida has never impressed me. He exists to make tito look good and he’ll do that job well.

First off, I am more than 99% sure that banner was photoshoped together by mania, so I wouldn’t really be too worried about the possibility of Tito being “the main draw” for that event, not even close to it.

Second,I find it funny how so many people still don’t see what a washed up fighter Tito is. Yes, he was one of the best back in the day, but since he refused to keep evolving and stuck to his takedown-gnp mentality, the game has long passed him by. Couple that with the fact that Machida is in my eyes a true top 5 lhw in the world, and one of the fighters that has impressed me most in the last year, and I don’t see any chance whatsoever for Tito.

Not hating the guy at all, but this talk about Tito “smashing” Machida is pretty much as productive and realistic as the talk of Soko wiping the octagon floor with Macida. Lyoto is way better than Tito these days, and should’t even face him imho. Yes, it’s a good draw when it comes to the UFC, buy Lyoto should be the one facing Rampage in July. Then again, Lyoto definitely SHOUDLN’T be the coach on TUF7…

Awesome card, best of the year by ease I’d say.
BJ, Machida Thiago Silva… 3 outstanding fighters with 3 solid wins that night.

Tito will destroy machida….period!!! Dana this is not aerobics class this is mma tv ppv drawing money for the fertelli brothers theire into money your into ego so they have a decision to make! If there smart they will resighn tito.

I don’t know how Rashad is going to be able to handle Thiago Silva, I really don’t. I also think it’s odd that so many people say that Tito isn’t top five, or isn’t even top ten, and that he hasn’t done anything in years (even though he beat Rashad, the tie was a result of the subtracted point) Even with the subtracted point I thought Tito beat Rashad. And Bisping beat Rashad (in my book). Rashad has had too many chances and Thiago’s gonna shut him down. Back to Tito, I am positive that he will be the toughest test of Machida’s career to this point; Tito IS top five; Since Tito’s loss to Frank Shamrock back in the day he’s racked up 11 wins with 3 losses. The 3 losses are 2 KOs to Chuck Liddell (who is definitely top five LHW) and one decision to Randy Couture (who definitely was top five LHW) The 11 wins include wins over Yuki Kondo, Vladimir Matyushenko, Patrick Cote, Ken Shamrock, Vitor Belfort, Forrest Griffin, and Wanderlei Silva. So, what I want to know, is where did he drop out of the top five? No one from a lower rank has beaten him, and he has some VERY impressive wins; TITO IS THE NUMBER FIVE LHW IN THE WORLD!

I think beating up on poor Ken Shamrock three times made people forget that Tito knows how to handle his business. People like to say that Forrest beat Tito in their fight, and it’s a decent argument when you look at the fight round by round. However, Forrest Griffin was beaten by like an elderly woman in the first round, and showed some of the worst off-your-back technique I have ever witnessed in MMA at any level. I’d love to see that fight again I predict we’d see more of what we saw in the first round, and much less of what we saw in the other rounds.

Tito should be rematching Wanderlei. I’m seriously disappointed in the UFC for not pursuing that fight.

Have u actually ever seen the tito vs. Wanderlie fight?

I knew it!! Pissin me off dangit, why is Ttio front and center, it’s about Penn and Sherk, NOT Tito!

Have no fear Anomaly: when its all said and done Tito’s face probably wont even be on the event poster at all.

The fight poster is going to look like this:
BJ and Sherk in the middle, with wanderlei and jardine on the outside. tito’s face will be no where to be seen, when the actual fight poster is released.

I agree Thiago is better all around than Rashad. I love Gouveia. He has good submission skills with KO power and punishing leg kicks. He needs to fight a big name. Maybe Bonnar?

I am not so sure what to make of Rashad vs. Tiago just yet. I think Tiago’s tougness will be the differenec. Tiago seems to be on of the toughest men in the LHW division….I am not talking about skills, I am just talking about Toughness….Tiago is one tough dude and I am really looking forward to this match.

Tiago will defeat Rashad…. submission? TKO? who knows…but Rashad wont get past Tiago.

As for Gouveai…. I am a big fan of his and I think its a travesty that instead of him fighting a top 15 fighter, he has to face the 23 year old new Croation fighter at UFC 84. I dont know much about the croation except that he is a highly decorated grappler.

Tiago Silva and loyoto Machida will both defeat their opponents at UFC 84. I have a felling that will set up a very interesting match up between the 2 brazilians with completely contracting styles.

Look for Tiago vs. Machida to happen towards the end of september/early October.

Wanderlei will beat Jardine. I think wanderlei learned a lot about the UFC in his fight vs. Chuck and I feel that wanderlei will be very tough to defeat in his next UFC regardless of who he faces..

I love wanderlei..but at some point the UFC has to give us:
Wanderlei vs. Liddell II
Wanderlei vs. Henderson III
Wanderlei vs. Rampage III

If wanderlei retires before these fights ever take place, I will be very disapointed.

Yesterday, I was sick, so I spent the day in bed. I was feeling a bit of PRIDE nostalgia, so I decided to dig into my PRIDE FC dvd collection and watch some fights.

I decided to watch all 3 rounds of the 2004 Heavyweight Grand Prix. I forgot how great of a fight(the semifinals) Kharitonov vs. Nogueira was.

What I found interesting was that Cro Cop was talking about how he has added Fabricio Werdum as a training partner. I always knew Werdum was working with cro cop, but I didnt realize that they started working together back in 2004…. Its 4 years later and cro cop still couldnt hang with me on the ground…. Thats really pathetic and stuborn. Of course Werdum has moved on to the Chute Box camp, but how could have cro cop spent years training Werdum and still be garbage on the ground is just inexcusable.

In the cro cop interview at Final Conflict 2004, cro cop said that he will train with Werdum and in 6 months he will be ready to hang on the ground against anyone…… 4 years later, he has shown no improvement. How Pathetic!

I have a feeling that Tiago will be a big underdog to Rashad…. If this turns out to be correct I will have to wager big bucks on Tiago.

MMAmania………..

Did you guys put together and photoshop the pic in this post?? I was just curious because I couldnt see the UFC doing anyhting at all Tito related, even if it may help sell. I just cant see Tito on the front for UFC 84 banners

Yes, we made it up — it’s not official. Some of you guys need to relax. It’s a picture. Get over it.

Yes, we made it up — it’s not official. Some of you guys need to relax. It’s a picture. Get over it.

Precisely. Can’t really understand why would people get so worked up over such a thing, when it’s obviously not an official picture\banner.

Yes, we made it up — it’s not official. Some of you guys need to relax. It’s a picture. Get over it.

Yes, we made it up — it’s not official. Some of you guys need to relax. It’s a picture. Get over it.

So what you’r tryin to say is this is the official poster created and trademarked by the UFC themselves?

Uh no.

Uh no.

u people can talk up tito all u want saying he sells tickets but i never order a ppv just because he was on it. i liked other fighters on the card. and the chuck and tito fight i ordered it because i knew chuck was going 2 whip his *ss i hate tito and his girlfriend they belong together. i ordered it more for chuck then tito. but i don’t really don’t like chuck either. chuck backs up way 2 much 4 me. i like fighters who go 4 the win and not back up the whole fight. if chuck and rizzo fought then would just stare at each other. and i hate hear about a fighters endurnce (i don’t know if i spelled it right) then they take the fight 2 the ground and just do enough 2 keep the ref from standing them up. TRY 2 END THE FIGHT fitch, koscheck, hammil, edgar, tito (sometimes), and O’brien just 2 name a few. DANA IF U READ THIS GET VITOR BELFORT BACK! now i order a ppv 2 watch him fight even if he was the only well named fighter on it.

1st EEK :)

Good line up looking forward to it already. Hope TITo loses!!

I SECOND THAT!

So what you’r tryin to say is this is the official poster created and trademarked by the UFC themselves?

I knew it!! Pissin me off dangit, why is Ttio front and center, it’s about Penn and Sherk, NOT Tito!

Word to that bro!! This entire forum became about Tiago and Tito, BJ BJ BJ!!! Atleast someone talk about how they think Sherk has a chance so i have someone to argue with, this sucks!!!!!!!!!!! Tito and his 7 years olds attitude sucks! He spent his prime fighting Ken Shambles and no one in the MMA community takes him seriously anymore! Even though Tito got the best of Shamrock in the ring, Shamrock got the best of Titos career HaHaHaHa, you didnt see Chuck or Randy falling for that sh*t! LoL!!! I couldnt imagine getting talked into fighting one guy over and over again for three strait years, give or take a fight or two, IDIOT!!!! Now, lets talk Penn/Sherk Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!