Man I like Jon from the TUF show but he is one messed up dude, Leave for the Octagon and get paid for it Jon. I don’t know the whole story like Why he did what he did but I feel bad for him and the dude that he messed up seems to be serious. Go Jon can’t wait till next time mess someone up in the octagon.

All I gotta say he luck out for getting reduced sentance.

the guy he attacked from behind, choked out and then hit while unconscious is cool as hell for letting him off so easy. my guess is there was some kind of behind the scene payoff because nobody is that forgiving. all this because somebody called him a “tough guy.” he’s 26, not a kid, and if he does it again, let him rot in prison for a year with the rest of the tough guys.

Talk about dodging a bullet — he should really thank Zutkow for not asking the judge to put the screws to him after the beating he endured.

I agree Mania, I was fully expecting to read him thank that dude that he beat up. THAT is who he needs to thank. If he wanted to push, Koppenhaver would have probably been locked up.

he more than likely already thanked the dude a million times, and we really dont know the whole story of what went down at the gym, all we hear are rumors or not full facts. he is thanking his fans and supporters over the internet, is that the way you thank the guy that set you free??? i dont think so , an apology in person is better than via my space.
GO WARMACHINE!!!!!

What’s the spread on his next arrest

I agree Mania, I was fully expecting to read him thank that dude that he beat up. THAT is who he needs to thank. If he wanted to push, Koppenhaver would have probably been locked up.

Yeah, I also thought that he should have been thanking that dude. Regardless lets hope he make the most out of his 2nd chance at life.

War Machine has been alos added to the already stacked UFC 84 card on May 24th in Vegas. No opponent has been mentioned and I am dyingt osee him back in action.

It will be interesting to see what kind of opponent the UFC matches him up against. I hope its not another TUF 6 opponent, the show is over and I want to see TUF fighters challenge no TUF fighters.

Event THough Mitchyan vs. Sitripolous will be a good fight, I would have liked to see them face other UFC guys instead of each other.

I have a feeling that War Machine will become the real deal. He is so mentally screwed up, but once he gets in the cage he is a very mentally strong fighter.

Any suggestions for a quality opponent for War machine that would make for a good match up?

VM: I dont know if you read my response to our convo yesterday. So I will re post it here, where I am sure you will see it:

                Hey John, betus has almost every fight for UFC 82 on there!

            I am so tempted to look at the odds, but If I start thinking about it this soon, I will change my mind a million times by the time next weekend rolls around.

            VM: U still got that superbowl money in your Betus account? If so, time to build that account up and what better way to do so then UFC 82.

        YES I DO! I jumped on Hazelett early in case the odds start to change in his favor, I can’t picture too much money going on Kos at minus 500. I was actually just about to divy up my money amongst the fights, but I think I’ll take your advice and wait until the day before the PPV. Because I too can picture myself changing my mind. Plus the week of a PPV I really get into a lot more than I am right now. Although, next week is the week of the PPV.

    i like to wait and see how they look at the weigh ins first. that can tell you a lot about the state of mind/body a fighter is in.

The Best betting advice I can offer is that when trying to make up your mind on what fights to bet during a certain event, you have to expect about 3-6 upsets. Dry to Identify what favorites are susceptible to being upset… then you identify what underdogs have good chances of pulling off an upset. THen I bet accordingly.

For example…. The boetsch vs. Heath fight: I bet Boetsch, but I didnt know anything about him. THe reason I took Boetsch
was simply because I felt that Heath was one of the favorites that was most sesceptible to being upset.

ViolentMike: Sometime around next wednesday I would like to start looking at the odds with you and we can pick each others brains about the event.

Off the top of my head…. I feel that either Koschek or Diego will get upset, or maybe both. I feel that Hazlett and Beilkheden are both worth $25 – $50 bets. You dont have to bet big on underdogs because even if you only bet $25….it will most likely win $100.,….. Mike, we will have to start analyzing the odds next week, we will come up with some solid bets.

I wont be betting the main event…thats for sure! That fight will be so exciting, that no need to have action on t he fight
because it will be ultra exciting anyway.

Since the Hazlett odds are so good, his value has to warrant a small wager on him. Before the odds change, I am going to lay something on Hazlett today. As for the rest of the fight… I will worry about that next week.

the guy he attacked from behind, choked out and then hit while unconscious is cool as hell for letting him off so easy. my guess is there was some kind of behind the scene payoff because nobody is that forgiving. all this because somebody called him a “tough guy.” he’s 26, not a kid, and if he does it again, let him rot in prison for a year with the rest of the tough guys.

If thats what happened THIS GUY SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FIGHT AGAIN that is the most cawardly thing you can do. Reminds me of when Todd Bertuzzi attacked and seriously hurt another NHL player he should have been suspended for good as well.
But I guess it really doesnt matter because in a year or so he probably wont even be in the ufc any longer and he can go fight richi hightower in smaller circus like shows. who ever he fights I will be rooting for the other guy.

The fact that he’s a pro fighter should have secured him jail time with no probation. Guys like him make other fighter look bad and should not be accepted into competition.
Hey Koppenhaver, go flip burgers you weakling.

LOL, John, I just read that post from the original thread, responded to it, and emailed you… lol What timing!

Nice work Dana,

by having classless punks like this guy, and melvin in the ufc

but not resigning Arlovski thus far, making a bullshit contract with cro cop stating if you lose twice I dont have to pay you the initially agreed amount, being the road block in the fedor vs randy fight.

keep up the great work

I agree Mania, I was fully expecting to read him thank that dude that he beat up. THAT is who he needs to thank. If he wanted to push, Koppenhaver would have probably been locked up.

eh, there’s always 2 sides to every story. The guy was probably provoking him and he snapped. Doesn’t make it right but i’m sure he didn’t go looking for a fight.

He’s young and just has to understand, fights will come looking for him given his profession.

How many street fight stories have you heard about Tito, Chuck, and even BJ beating up a cop. Shit happens.

He’s lucky.

was john koppenhaver in the military. i hope so because if he wasn’t he has no right to call himself a soldier of “war machine” are any other wannabe military jargon. That is a slap in the face to those REAL soldiers who took an oath to put their life on the line in service to our country. John Koppenhaver is a fake phony.!

LOL, John, I just read that post from the original thread, responded to it, and emailed you… lol What timing!

JINX! got u again!

According to cro cop:

“I have already mentioned that I will take part in three fights for DREAM and that then I will return to the UFC,” Filipovic told the website javno.com. “And to all Internet know-it-alls, I say to put gloves on and to enter the ring or the cage themselves before insulting (any) fighter. I repeat, I am not avoiding the UFC, and will come back by the end of the year.”

I dont think he like bloggers too much! lol

Look at this Gotti-wanna be, Guido.

Yaega bombs! Fuckin Skanks.

According to cro cop:

“I have already mentioned that I will take part in three fights for DREAM and that then I will return to the UFC,” Filipovic told the website javno.com. “And to all Internet know-it-alls, I say to put gloves on and to enter the ring or the cage themselves before insulting (any) fighter. I repeat, I am not avoiding the UFC, and will come back by the end of the year.”

I dont think he like bloggers too much! lol

Cro Cop is letting the fans get to his head (again), huh? So before I can say Cro Cop sucks, I must fight in the octagon first. But in order to say that Cro Cop is a god, I don’t need any mma experience. Just making sure I understand what Cro Cop is saying here. I mean, maybe we shouldn’t be giving Cro Cop any props either until we all spend 20 years training ourselves in striking.

Attention Mirko: We are what is called “fans”. Without fans, you would not have any money and nobody would know who you are. So before anyone can consider themselves a “fan”, we first need to fight professionally??? Well, in that case, it looks like there are only about 3000 fans of mma, and not the millions that I thought there were.
Learn how to fight in a cage when your fight is scheduled to take place in a cage. Add something to your arsenal besides a kick and back pedalling. Cro Cop had gone from the Top of the division to the basement faster than anyone.

Well, looks like he sucks at life. Too bad he sucks in the ring. I guess he just sucks all around.

I successfully got my felony reduced to a misdemeanor.

I wonder if part of the deal was that Jon now has to help train this Zutkow guy in MMA. That’s what I would do. If Jon has a 10 fight contract, he’ll be training with top fighters for sure. Good for Jon. I can’t wait to see him fight again.

According to cro cop:

“I have already mentioned that I will take part in three fights for DREAM and that then I will return to the UFC,” Filipovic told the website javno.com. “And to all Internet know-it-alls, I say to put gloves on and to enter the ring or the cage themselves before insulting (any) fighter. I repeat, I am not avoiding the UFC, and will come back by the end of the year.”

I dont think he like bloggers too much! lol

hey mirko cro crap i gotta make wieght for my first cage match so i watched gonzaga kick u in the head and looked at ur leg folding……scuse me i gotta go barf now. oh by the way u suck and stay in japan.

Shouldn’t he be walking out in a suit of armor?

I dont think he like bloggers too much! lol

Why would any fighter like bloggers after the way some of us talk about them?

just wait this guy is nothing but trouble i bet you hes in troubel agian before his next fight in the cage

You know, I just remembered how he decorated that cake for Blake so nice. I’ll give him the benefit of a doubt.

I didn’t know he was a fan of Rob Emerson.

But he is definitely a talented fighter with a lot of heart, and despite being a head case he seemed to be a pretty nice guy on TUF. He clearly fucked up, but I’m hopeful that he can move on and have success in the UFC.

I wasn’t a fan on Jon on the show. I guess with some good ppl backing him, he could be a threat.

Sounds like Zutkow is getting paid. War’s purses will be going to the victim for awhile. The only way any of this makes any sense.

Jon should fight George – Roman winner.

Are there any other 10 fight contracts in the UFC? I’ve never heard of that before.

Are there any other 10 fight contracts in the UFC? I’ve never heard of that before.

good question

10 fight contract?! holy hell that dude is set for life.

yeah 10 fights at 10k a piece will net him 100k, i wouldn’t say that will set him for life.

10 fight contract?! holy hell that dude is set for life.

Not really.

At 4-5K a fight (which is about average for a rookie TUFfer) its a slim living. If he gets some bonuses he’ll pretty well. That contract just means that the UFC doesn’t have to pay him much unless he does well enough in the ring to renegotiaite it.

bar fights are funny. most of the time both people are wrong and deserve to be choked out and danced on. but a professional fighter should be able to carry himself with some fucking grace.

I hope they give him Lytle!!!!
That would be a war, two guys with every thing to loose.

But then again a 10 FIGHT CONTRACT, Jon probably has a little more breathing room then Lytle.

ahahahaha

I hope they give him Lytle!!!!
That would be a war, two guys with every thing to loose.

But then again a 10 FIGHT CONTRACT, Jon probably has a little more breathing room then Lytle.

ahahahaha

I think Lytle is okay. I’ve often wondered if Lytle is a guy that could have more success in another weight class?

B4 you bad mouth the guy you have to know the story. WM wasnt the one who choked the guy out, he was there while one of his friends did it. He held Zutkow. Im not saying that that is ok, but know the story before you guys get so angry.

Not really.

At 4-5K a fight (which is about average for a rookie TUFfer) its a slim living. If he gets some bonuses he’ll pretty well. That contract just means that the UFC doesn’t have to pay him much unless he does well enough in the ring to renegotiaite it.

Is it only 4k-5k per fight? I thought those TUF contracts were $6k-$8k, I could be wrong though.

I think the standard pay for TUF fighters that did not win the show, should be $8K per fight, that way if they win they take home $16,000 which isnt a bad pay day for 4 months of work… Fight hard and win a few Bonus’s and they are making some decent money.

War Manchine is scheduled to fight on the UFC 84 card in May…..anyone have any ideas for a good opponent?

War Manchine is scheduled to fight on the UFC 84 card in May…..anyone have any ideas for a good opponent?

Mike Swick. After his poor showing in his first fight at WW against Burkman, he has to prove he can be a force at WW. War Machine has been exciting in all his fights and if he could pull out a win over Swick it would do great things for his career.

Cut Jon some slack. He lost his Dad for Christ’s sake. You’d have a few issues if you lost your dad so young. He’s a good kid-trying to deal with life and some bad luck. I feel for him-and anyone else who lost someone would too. You’re gonna be ok Jon-just maintain………