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Fightin' words: Mirko Cro Cop and Cheick Kongo exchange barbs

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Cheick Kongo on the premature UFC departure of Mirko Cro Cop to DREAM in Japan via PunchDrunkGamer.com:

"Cro Cop needs some juices and there he can use them without getting in trouble."

Mirko Cro Cop on those comments via his personal blog at MMA-ID.com:

"I have a message for Kongo. Listen, I though that you are a sportsman, a professional like everyone else in this sport. You were lucky enough to fight against me during the deepest crisis of my career. You probably ate a lot of vegetables and potatoes to look like that? I'll be back in the cage and I hope you will be in the opposite corner. Then we'll see for how long you'll be able to talk."

Kongo defeated Filipovic via unanimous decision at UFC 75: "Champion vs. Champion" in September 2007, signaling the departure of the talented Croatian from the organization after just three fights. Will we see a rematch? Perhaps ... just not anytime soon. In other news, Cro Cop is adamant that he will return to the Octagon (perhaps before 2008 expires) and UFC President Dana White is in agreement provided he can get back on the winning track. Both Cro Cop and White describe the split as amicable.

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thats right Cro Cop!!!!!!!!!!

Come back to the UFC and kick his ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by phil on Feb 16, 2008 12:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

how cool would it be if he came back and wooped kongos ass

by Dan on Feb 16, 2008 12:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kongo sent him out of ufc, mite not be a good idea to fight him straight away when he comes back.

by markg on Feb 16, 2008 1:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

If CroCop wears a sturdier CroCup…..he takes the next fight easy.

by DonFryestache on Feb 16, 2008 1:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kongo is a tough matchup for Crocop. I can see the rematch ending much the same way as the last one.

by IceMuncher on Feb 16, 2008 1:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro cop should come back and kick his ass!!!!!!!!! i hate kongo. he sucks and cro cop lost too him…. how is that?

by THA_BALLA on Feb 16, 2008 1:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kongo will beat his ass again. LMAO at CroCop trying to talk shit

by Anthony on Feb 16, 2008 1:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro-cop needs to get his head right before returning! i hope all this chat of drugs (steroids) isnt as close as has been stated for these fighters who were based in Pride, so far it seems like some may have been!!

Any word on Liddell fightin in London yet mania???? plz answer!!!!!!!

by mo on Feb 16, 2008 1:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

kongo better be pretty sure of himself to say something like that

by boz on Feb 16, 2008 2:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i predict cro cop will say screw dream tomorro nd come back to lay the smack down

by ISLAND BOI on Feb 16, 2008 2:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, Cro Cop was winning the fight until Kongo kneed him in the nuts like 5 times.

by Aaron on Feb 16, 2008 2:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Cro Cop, I know that “talking trash” is part of the fight game, but come on. You already beat him (in boring fashion by-the-by). Kongo, you should actually stop badmouthing Cro Cop and let the man do whatever it is he wants to do. Instead, you should be concentrating on Heath Herring and hopefully won’t get your ground game exposed, once again. And as I said before, I think Cro Cop going off to help kickstart DREAM is great news. I wish him luck in the future and want to see him knock some people out in Japan.

by NanShoBudo on Feb 16, 2008 2:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cro Cop….dude….he made you look like an 8 year old kid who could not get his lunch money back. You were terrible…your left leg was useless…he is not Bob Sapp. Go beat up your asians and think your tough. You have lost of your credentials….its over.

by kavedaddy on Feb 16, 2008 2:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perfect, this is just more motivation for Mirko to train harder and rededicate himself to the sport he loves.

Cro Cop pleez learn some f**king submisions already, after watching the kongo/crocop match again it was really disappointing to see when mirko was in the full mount and kongo was just thowing out his arms practically begging to be arm barred. A f**king ameture HW in that position with kongo reacting the way he was could have pulled off the submission.

Its so obvious that Mirko was having some serious issues wether mentally or physically. If you watch cro cops fights durning the 2006 grand prix and then watch his ufc bouts its like night and day. in the ganzaga fight it took crocop over 1 minute and 20 seconds to throw a punch something was seriously wrong with him. I hope he is able to bounce back stronger than ever

Cant wait for herring to make kongo tap

by dia mette on Feb 16, 2008 2:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro cop has always been 1 dimensional fighter, was pretty clear in the gonzaga fight. everyone remembers the ko, but doesnt seem like many remember what led to it. kongo is a bigger stronger striker with much of the same background and style which is why i predicted him before that fight. not even taking into consideration the general weak performance of almost every pride fighter that has come to the ufc. flame all you want, but you cant argue with numbers. the plain fact is, in pride they through weak no-names at the stars to make them look godly, and the ufc has become the ultimate wake up call.

by storhaug on Feb 16, 2008 3:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mirko either has balls of steel or he is one dumb s.o.b.! He couldn’t beat Kongo on his best day and now he has the sack to call out the guy that beat his ass, from across the ocean no less, and say he will avenge the loss. After he quits the premiere MMA organization? Not only is he high, he’s delusional! Go back to Japan and try to salvage the last bit of dignity you have left by fighting the worlds single-A farm club, then come back and get KO’d some more, I can’t wait to see you get destroyed in the Octagon again. Good riddance!

by Ray on Feb 16, 2008 3:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kongo is an asshole

by zheka on Feb 16, 2008 4:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cro Cop will not come back.

by Amos on Feb 16, 2008 5:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

thats right Cro Cop!!!!!!!!!!

Come back to the UFC and kick his ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hah! cheick owned him last fight. owned him! now cheicks actually gonna have some ground game!

by yaBoy on Feb 16, 2008 6:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

just to point out – not sure if its fact – but crocop fractured a rip Rd 1 in the Kongo fight, thats why he never looked on his game – but he kept on fighting!

by Insain on Feb 16, 2008 6:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think and hope CC will be back and for the sake of my personal entertainment give a better representation of himself. Would like to think that there is not any chems involved but like any sport it is hard to deny their presence. Not trying to dog on Pride but with the exception of Nog,who is without a doubt a true fighting champ mind, body and soul, there has seemed to be a significant lack of previously shown agression from certain athletes. Although on that subject it is generally another guilty party who starts throwing barbs out of left field. Cheick does not exactly possess a Diaz physique.

by wannabe on Feb 16, 2008 7:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

no offense there are some cool frenchys but knogo the knee baller is not one of them

by AndyK on Feb 16, 2008 7:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What silly and irresponsible statement by Kongo. Quite frankly, Dana should fine him. What he did is called defamation of character and it’s not cool. Of course, Dana’s entire career is built around character assassinations so I guess that won’t happen. But it should.

by No1Dad on Feb 16, 2008 7:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro cops right!…kongo looks like he knows all about the jungle juice himself. Mirko will be back in UFC and then heads will roll!!!!!

by zatoichi on Feb 16, 2008 8:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

after the release i believe Mirko thinks he can talk it up… but honestly ive felt that cheick kongo has been a great addition to the heavyweight line up in the ufc. In the Cage id love to see CroCop beat some ass. But This is the UFC and former Pride Fighters
 will never get used to the cage. The only one so far has been Rampage… Wait … and Mintauro but seriously. Will we see Mirko Crocop back in the octagon. I dont believe so. So talk is Talk.and thats why i love this site. Cheick Kongo vs Minaturo = UFC 87

by Josh Law on Feb 16, 2008 8:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Seems to be a declining amount of class in this sport. Its kinda funny when you have guys that are gentleman like as Rampage, Chuck, GSP, Hendo, teh Nogs.. but a lot of these guys cant keep from flapping their gums, doesnt make the sport or them look good at all.

I’m semi-excited to know that returning to the UFC is a goal for Mirko. He definitely wasnt fighting to his full potential. Got nothing to do with ‘pride vs ufc.’

by Luppers on Feb 16, 2008 8:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I love Kongo for saying this!!! All of these damn Cro Cop lovers on this site are fooling themselves. Not for nothing, but it is me or did Cro Cop looked like he aged about 20 years in the past 2 or 3. It almost seems like he has less testosterone. The biggest crisis of his career was that head kick that Gonzaga laid on him.

by miarep on Feb 16, 2008 9:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did Cro Cop in a roundabout way just admit to using roids? He certainly didn’t deny it.

by Gregg on Feb 16, 2008 9:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did Cro Cop in a roundabout way just admit to using roids? He certainly didn’t deny it.

Thats the way I read it. No dis to CroCop but I am not surprised…especially if he never had to worry about being tested.

Some of the smack talk is entertaining and in reality is a big part of this sport but being disrespectful for absolutely no reason is silly.

by Borocker on Feb 16, 2008 9:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thats the way I read it. No dis to CroCop but I am not surprised…especially if he never had to worry about being tested.

Some of the smack talk is entertaining and in reality is a big part of this sport but being disrespectful for absolutely no reason is silly.

It almost looked like he was accusing Kongo of using roids. But your right, he didn’t deny it, and I wouldn’t be surprised. When a sports organization does not test, it is almost inevitable that their athletes will use steroids or HGH, not to gain an advantage necessarily, but to keep their opponents from having an advantage over them.

by ragnarr on Feb 16, 2008 10:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro cop has always been 1 dimensional fighter, was pretty clear in the gonzaga fight. everyone remembers the ko, but doesnt seem like many remember what led to it. kongo is a bigger stronger striker with much of the same background and style which is why i predicted him before that fight. not even taking into consideration the general weak performance of almost every pride fighter that has come to the ufc. flame all you want, but you cant argue with numbers. the plain fact is, in pride they through weak no-names at the stars to make them look godly, and the ufc has become the ultimate wake up call.

oh i do believe pride fighters hold three of the five ufc belts.

by lee on Feb 16, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro cop sucks!!! come back for another beating! maybe u can beat somebody in the WWE LOSER!

by john on Feb 16, 2008 10:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

that s very funny because cro cop is the most fighter who s full of himself, very arrogant with his opponents .therefore i can understand Kongo making such statement.
   And anyway the issue is not roids it s rather his lackluster performance.i would prefer having some explanations about this.
   But cro cop decided to run away from the cage and make promises for the future; who cares!!!His prime is behind and he can t even what the others fighters bring to the table.
    Correct me if i m wrong but Cro cop is only a one dimensional fighter so no ground game, no clinch ;how can he believe that he can still handle with well rounded fighters ?

by yaz on Feb 16, 2008 10:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

oh i do believe pride fighters hold three of the five ufc belts.

This argument is old and dead. Both organizations have/had their standout fighters. The tables are about even in my opinion. Cro Cop got knocked off but so did Chuck. Not to mention Shogun and Herring too. Anderson Silva is cutting through the middleweight division like a scalpel, but he was well known before and after his Pride days. The African Assassin got crushed, but his opponent is considered by many to be known outside the UFC. Big Nog, after 2 very close calls, has shown the UFC what heart really is.

About Dan Henderson vs Silva, both are Ex-Pride, however at 5 fights in the UFC from Silva, I consider this a UFC vs Pride fight, Silva has found a new home in the UFC, and a good American fan base (myself included). Dan is and old UFC guy anyway. In any case, whoever wins this fight will still not settle this argument either way.

Please do everyone a favor, and let this one go. Pride is gone.

by ragnarr on Feb 16, 2008 10:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It looks like these pride fighters were all juicing. I mean, look at wanderlei silva in pride, then look at him in the ufc. He had veins popping out of his head over in pride, i definitely think that is why these former pride figthers are doing so bad in the ufc.

by jk47 on Feb 16, 2008 10:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why do people like Cro Cop but hate on Kongo? I dont understand it…they are basically the same fighter…. Kick boxers, only Kongo actually uses more weapons then a left straight, left High kick, and an occasional left kick to the body.

Kongo is a pure Kickboxer just like Cro Cop, but at least Kongo uses a variaty of punches, kicks, elbows, KNEES…Kongo and cro cop are the same fighter, with the same holes in their game…I just think Kongo is a tougher guy then Cro Cop. I dont understand how someone can be a fan of cro cop, but not Kongo….it makes no sense to me.

I am dying to see Kongo vs. Sylvia

by john on Feb 16, 2008 10:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep i read it as others, Cro Cop sort of admitted juicing. You can’t blame the guys in pride for doing it if they weren’t tested.

Probably why Rampage wasn’t the force he is now, he couldn’t afford the roids back then and everyone else was on em.

by Nick J on Feb 16, 2008 11:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perfect, this is just more motivation for Mirko to train harder and rededicate himself to the sport he loves.

Cro Cop pleez learn some f**king submisions already, after watching the kongo/crocop match again it was really disappointing to see when mirko was in the full mount and kongo was just thowing out his arms practically begging to be arm barred. A f**king ameture HW in that position with kongo reacting the way he was could have pulled off the submission.

Its so obvious that Mirko was having some serious issues wether mentally or physically. If you watch cro cops fights durning the 2006 grand prix and then watch his ufc bouts its like night and day. in the ganzaga fight it took crocop over 1 minute and 20 seconds to throw a punch something was seriously wrong with him. I hope he is able to bounce back stronger than ever

*(Cant wait for herring to make kongo tap

)*

WTF are talking about Herring will be owned, another pride K1 hero who becomes a UFC “CAN”

Herring has less ground game than my little sister- as shown by Obrien and by not finishing big Nog when he had the chance, he was too scared to hit the mat with the big man

by DannyB on Feb 16, 2008 11:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep i read it as others, Cro Cop sort of admitted juicing. You can’t blame the guys in pride for doing it if they weren’t tested.

Probably why Rampage wasn’t the force he is now, he couldn’t afford the roids back then and everyone else was on em.

Couldn’t afford them? I don’t think so.

by pete on Feb 16, 2008 11:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This argument is old and dead. Both organizations have/had their standout fighters. The tables are about even in my opinion. Cro Cop got knocked off but so did Chuck. Not to mention Shogun and Herring too. Anderson Silva is cutting through the middleweight division like a scalpel, but he was well known before and after his Pride days. The African Assassin got crushed, but his opponent is considered by many to be known outside the UFC. Big Nog, after 2 very close calls, has shown the UFC what heart really is.

About Dan Henderson vs Silva, both are Ex-Pride, however at 5 fights in the UFC from Silva, I consider this a UFC vs Pride fight, Silva has found a new home in the UFC, and a good American fan base (myself included). Dan is and old UFC guy anyway. In any case, whoever wins this fight will still not settle this argument either way.

Please do everyone a favor, and let this one go. Pride is gone.

Haha, let it go? Take your own advice then.

by yum on Feb 16, 2008 11:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

CroCop running away like a GIRL then trying to diss Kongo ha ha ha. I don’t rate Kongo too high but CroChump is a joke. Back to fighting roadsweepers in Japan LOSER :)

by MrAngry on Feb 16, 2008 11:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I lost repect for Cro Cop. Instead of juicing up to get bigger, he should have put in the work to cut weight to LHW.

by Pat on Feb 16, 2008 11:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cro cop had all the skills to destroy the entire UFC HW division.(yes Randy included)we all know that a pissed in your face cro cop could destroy anyone. He did that against Wandy, alexander, and others and made them look stupid. He didn’t do that against fedor, kongo, and Gabe and look what happens. He has no one to blame but himself, he could have desroyed any fighter on any given night, not saying he couldn’t loose, but it would be much harder to defeat him.

by NewGuyTheMagnificent on Feb 16, 2008 11:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t doubt that Mirko used steroids in Pride. He was always more aggressive in Pride and way more "pumped. In his UFC fights he was very flat looking muscularly. But I don’t think Kongo has any room to speak, the commision needs to test him or praise his parents for non-human like genetics.

by yoububg on Feb 16, 2008 12:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Couldn’t afford them? I don’t think so.

Was joking muppet.

by Nick J on Feb 16, 2008 12:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“You probably ate a lot of vegetables and potatoes to look like that” lol, Mirko is a class act, he will be back and live up to the expectations we all had for him origionally.

by izzo on Feb 16, 2008 12:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

off topic, im not sold on kongo. he beat an old looking mirko in a kinda boring fight and everybody thinks he is great. i think he is going to lose to herring. kongo’s not battle tested, herring has been to war with some of the best fighters in the world. to me kongo looks slow, very slow and he keeps his hands at his chest all the time. sooner or later he’s gonna get tagged right on the chin. herring might not be as skilled of striker as mirko but he is big, so kongo’s not gonna have a huge size advantage.

by Bass on Feb 16, 2008 12:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

kongo is very disrespectful idiot i hope he meets cro cop very soon and hoprfully in a ring and there be no excuse for kongo he calls him self a kickboxer then he should be ready then the true story should reveald it self

by joe on Feb 16, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Deepest crisis of his career? What exactly does that mean? He got caught by Gonzaga and it was 1 loss at the point. What else was going on? The breathing and septum issue?

I’m guess because Mirko was such a draw in Japan, they made him an offer he couldn’t refuse to come over there to pull everyone’s eyes to the organization, but Cro cop should be back in the UFC if he wants to have any kind of MMA Legacy.

Like it has been said before, kickboxing is not MMA. Just like you could take Mike Tyson at his prime and put him in the octogon with no guarantees.

Mirko can strike, Mirko can ground n pound. Mirko can’t do anything affective from the guard position. Being a smaller heavyweight, a guy 30 or 40 pounds heavier then you can put you in a bad way.

I really think that had Gonzaga no knocked Mirko out, he could have still been on the way to at worst, a decision win. Mirko was trapped on the ground. Same thing happened with Kongo. Like someone else said, there was arm bars there all day.

by Don on Feb 16, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what is really funny is when cro cop first came to the ufc all the blogs were blowin up with cro cop. yall were all on his nuts…then when he loses ….and yall pick him apart. just like fedor. ufc is not the only mma organization with “the best fighters”. truly i think that the ufc is startin to drop down a weight class…only time will tell…

by THA_BALLA on Feb 16, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

MIRCO WILL RETURN AS THE PHOENIX HAS RISEN AGAIN.

DREAM continues where PRIDE ENDED

by Joe on Feb 16, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro cop has always been 1 dimensional fighter, was pretty clear in the gonzaga fight. everyone remembers the ko, but doesnt seem like many remember what led to it. kongo is a bigger stronger striker with much of the same background and style which is why i predicted him before that fight. not even taking into consideration the general weak performance of almost every pride fighter that has come to the ufc. flame all you want, but you cant argue with numbers. the plain fact is, in pride they through weak no-names at the stars to make them look godly, and the ufc has become the ultimate wake up call.

Oh that’s right…. Rampage, Anderson Silva, Dan Henderson and Nog. Who are those guys? That’s right dominating!!!! All from Pride.

Do you even watch MMA???

by Damon on Feb 16, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

kongo is very disrespectful idiot i hope he meets cro cop very soon and hoprfully in a ring and there be no excuse for kongo he calls him self a kickboxer then he should be ready then the true story should reveald it self

cro cop is a joke people…it has been proven that he is a has benn he couldnt cut it wit the big dogs so he ran away like a little girl

by chuckisover-rated on Feb 16, 2008 2:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well thats good news that he may make a return

by c-war on Feb 16, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

dude these fighters can talk all the shit they want it doesnt bother me they get in the cage and actually fight…thtas like a pass to run your mouth

by NDkarl on Feb 16, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was funny how Kongo ‘brushed’ a kick off late in that fight. It was flush on his lower right rib area, but he looked right at Crocop and wiped like he spilled something.

 Classic.

by sirchokemout on Feb 16, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this has nothing to do with cro cop, but is the mmarmy.com site down?

by Sparxx on Feb 16, 2008 4:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

MANIA ARE YOU EVER GONY ANSWER ANY OF MY QUESTIONS!!!!!!!

by mo on Feb 16, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

kongo is very disrespectful idiot i hope he meets cro cop very soon and hoprfully in a ring and there be no excuse for kongo he calls him self a kickboxer then he should be ready then the true story should reveald it self

Wishfull thinking, Cro Cop couldn’t ever beat kongo even on the juice. The HW’s that he has fought in the UFC have all been much bigger than him. I think he would do well as a LHW because he doesn’t seem to do well against much larger opponents.

by jimmy_dean on Feb 16, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

KOngo is a dirty fighter, anyone who watched the fight knows he needs to knee someone in the balls 6 times to stand a chance.

Hope he tries that on Tim. It won’t work though cuz Tim doesn’t have a pair. KOngo’s groin shots won’t work.

by liukangstoupee on Feb 16, 2008 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So… Kongo enjoys kicking people when they’re down. Or should I say kneeing people in the balls when they’re down.

Real classy, Cheick. I’m sure you’re going to get alot of fans with this type of behaviour. I hope Herring knocks your block off.

by hbdale309 on Feb 16, 2008 6:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

CroCop and Kongo….what can you say?
On one hand, CC is running out of the UFC.
On the other hand, Kongo is out of line saying CC needs “juice” to compete.
This is nothing more than building more hype between two orginizations in competition w/ each other.

Almost as if other ppl in charge are pulling strings from behind the scenes almost, possibly pressuring the two to say certain things about the other. Just my opinion.

by The 518 Playa on Feb 16, 2008 6:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is a poor move on Kongo’s part. He is devalueing his win over Cro-Cop and hurting his status as a top 5 contender. If he wants a title shot after this victory he should say that Cro-Cop was a tough fighter, but he’s better, not say that Cro-Cop needs Steroids to compete and isn’t a good fighter. All that does is make it look like you beat a guy who wasn’t that good in the first place and you need to validate your top 5 status.

And unrelated question: is it a proven fact that Cro-Cop was taking steroids in PRIDE?

by DB on Feb 16, 2008 7:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why is cro cop running his mouth now hes talking back cause hes hundreds of miles across the sea now .Mirco you made your best move ok…bye…bye!!!

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Feb 16, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They’re both idiots… neither one trains much in wrestling or Ju.

by THORAZINE on Feb 17, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

They’re both idiots… neither one trains much in wrestling or Ju.

Very well said thorazine.

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Feb 17, 2008 12:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

not sold on kongo yet… for one who threw alot of dirty shots he should keep his trap shut.

by blah on Feb 17, 2008 3:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

MIRCO WILL RETURN AS THE PHOENIX HAS RISEN AGAIN.

DREAM continues where PRIDE ENDED

CroCop will fight a few roadsweepers for more money than he deserves.
Dream is crap. Nuff said

by MrAngry on Feb 17, 2008 8:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh that’s right…. Rampage, Anderson Silva, Dan Henderson and Nog. Who are those guys? That’s right dominating!!!! All from Pride.

Do you even watch MMA???

People want to bash Pride fighters and I find it really funny. Do u PRIDE haters even realize that the only 2 Unification bouts between PRIDE and UFC which are probably the 2 biggest fights the sport have ever seen, featured only PRIDE fighters?
Think about it:
Henderson vs. Rampage: 2 PRIDE guys going at it
Henderson vs. Anderson Silva: 2 Pride guys going at it.

Then you got Nogueira holding the UFC heavyweight title finishing Tim Sylvia, who last time was fininshed was in the 1st fight vs. Arlovski.

Hating on the PRIDE fighters is just stupid, these guys are legit fighters and belong in the UFC. Is is just a coincidence that the 3 Heaviest weight classes have former PRIDE fighters as champion.

The 2 smallest weightclasses in the UFC (Lightweight and welterweight) still have UFC guys as champion, but then again No impact fighters from Pride have yet to be added to those UFC divisions.

by john on Feb 17, 2008 8:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wait, did Cro Cop half admit to doing roids in Japan?

by Toms Bombs on Feb 17, 2008 12:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

cro cop is a joke people…it has been proven that he is a has benn he couldnt cut it wit the big dogs so he ran away like a little girl

SO i suppose the big dogs are people that dont include wanderlei, barnett, randlemann, fedor, noguera etc because last i checked, fighting those guys is “cutting” it plenty if u ask “most” long time followers and to rebuttal ur comment, yes he lost to gonzaga and kongo but tell me again who gonzaga has fought and won against??? i seem to have forgotten? last i checked gonzaga got destroyed by randy and werdum but i guess u forgot that one….

by blah on Feb 17, 2008 2:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dang those really are fighting words, CC told that fool what’s UP!!

by The Anomaly on Feb 17, 2008 10:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SO i suppose the big dogs are people that dont include wanderlei, barnett, randlemann, fedor, noguera etc because last i checked, fighting those guys is “cutting” it plenty if u ask “most” long time followers and to rebuttal ur comment, yes he lost to gonzaga and kongo but tell me again who gonzaga has fought and won against??? i seem to have forgotten? last i checked gonzaga got destroyed by randy and werdum but i guess u forgot that one….


Your comment is basically backing up what this guy just said. He is a has been, he ran with the big dogs at one time but he fell off once he got to the UFC losing to two guys that aren’t even mentionted as being in the top ten HWs in the world.

by jimmy_dean on Feb 18, 2008 8:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Idk whats going on with the CC/Kongo situation except that Kongo did beat him, hes much bigger than Mirko and a bit stronger but he did`t excatly fight fair if u watched the fight he hit Mirko like 4-5 times in his nuts he is lucky BJM din`t disqualify him. That being said CC left probably cause DREAM offered a good deal and better money not cause he doesn`t like the UFC or cause he is scarred of Cheik “knees to the balls” Kongo, he could defeat Kongo if he used more grappling/subs/groungwork but Cro Cop likes to stand and kick people in the head, Kongo is a complete stranger to grappling just watch his fights with Assuerio Silva and Carmelo Marrero who is just a wrestler he was getting taken down at will i used to like Kongo but he seems to be a fool making comments and accusations for no reason towards someone respected like CC is stupid. Hope to see CC back in the UFC in year or two and do well this time.

by G-MONEY on Feb 18, 2008 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ts all in his head…He only had to find a motivation,…Now when he find ’’dream’’,i hope that he will be the same mirko like he was before he came to ufc,maybe better….
 
Samo naprijed mirko!!!Svi smo uz tebe!!!

by CroResp on Feb 19, 2008 6:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is a poor move on Kongo’s part. He is devalueing his win over Cro-Cop and hurting his status as a top 5 contender. If he wants a title shot after this victory he should say that Cro-Cop was a tough fighter, but he’s better, not say that Cro-Cop needs Steroids to compete and isn’t a good fighter

the fight between kongo and cro cop was originally slated as for the number 1 contender spot in the hw rankings and would face randy for the strap. since kongo won they seemed to have forgotten that stipulation. the fact is kongo is a nobody and would have never lasted in a 5-round bout with randy. any one in the upper echelon of the hw division would beat kongo. kongo talks so much crap you would think he is a main-eventer, or at least he is so delusional he thinks that. and this isn’t the 1st time he has been disrespectful. from my understanding he is an all around jerk backstage. as far as i’m concerned he needs to look in the mirror and realize that hes calling cro cop a has been; kongo is a never been, and if he does’nt work on the holes in his own game he will be a NEVER WILL BE

by anonymous on Feb 20, 2008 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kongo will beat his ass again. LMAO at CroCop trying to talk shit

He was talking like a mature fighter that has respect for his other fighters. Not like Kongo who is acting like some retarded teenager.

by Manes on Feb 25, 2008 5:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cro Cop needs to move on before Kongo puts grandpa in a casket.

by Pat on Feb 26, 2008 3:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kongo couldn’t keep himself out of the casket Herring tossed him in…

by MrElbowMeetMrChin on Mar 11, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When CROCOP came over to UFC it was well known that he was having personal issues. Randy proved that it does play part bcause he dominated once he fixed those issues. Kongo has never beat anyone impressive besides CroCop and it sucked. I think if Crocop does come back he will eat his words, then maybe Crocop will have a chance to see how he will fair against UFC top contenders.

by Reality on Apr 8, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if Cro Cop fighted with Kongo 1 year earlier, he would destroy him, he was a little bit afraid beacuse of his last knockout loss against Gonzaga(who is realy tough), but if Cro Cop gives his best and Kongo too, Cro Cop would win, maybe with a KO, he was better in 1 round.If they fight again I really hope, and believe that Cro Cop will win, Herring kicked his ass, and I’m sure that if Cro Cop gives just little bit more than last time, he will knock him out.

by gladiator on May 5, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to see Cro Cop head kick his ass.

by Stev3 on Aug 22, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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