HDNets Mark Cuban gets in on the legal battle between Randy Couture and UFC

I am so confused. How is it that HDNet is able to get in on this?

Man, this is getting out of hand.
Hey Mania, did you get my E-mail on the Okami Situation ?

Man, this is getting out of hand.
Hey Mania, did you get my E-mail on the Okami Situation ?

Let me check.

Cuban want’s to promote a Fedor vs Randy fight. They’ve asked the courts in Texas to rule on when the contract actually expires. This maybe helpful to Randy if they rule that the contract is null in Oct 2008.
Cuban is being smart and doesn’t want to promote a fight if the courts deem the contract is still vaild as of Oct 2008.

To sum it up

Randy thinks the contract expires in 2008. The UFC say no you owe us to more fights before your contract is up. HD Fights is asking the courts to to make a decision on the expiration of the contract.

So to all you fighters out there read your contract!

what a big mess, that i cant see going away anytime soon

Cuban want’s to promote a Fedor vs Randy fight. They’ve asked the courts in Texas to rule on when the contract actually expires. This maybe helpful to Randy if they rule that the contract is null in Oct 2008.
Cuban is being smart and doesn’t want to promote a fight if the courts deem the contract is still vaild as of Oct 2008.

To sum it up

Randy thinks the contract expires in 2008. The UFC say no you owe us to more fights before your contract is up. HD Fights is asking the courts to to make a decision on the expiration of the contract.

So to all you fighters out there read your contract!

Bingo.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that HDNet get s favorable ruling and Fedor v. Couture can happen on HDNet.

Mania
You need a lawyer on hand to explain this crap to people. I’m not one but this is getting confusing as hell. I think I have it right but to me the fights left on your contract clause is really something that I think is well “dirty”. This is the same clause that they got AA with and maybe Sylvia. You couldn’t get away with this stuff in Canada.

The UFC is right, Randy signed the contract and owes them 2 fights. he just can’t leave because he doesn’t feel like fighting anymore and wants to pick and choose his opponents liek Fedor. Randy, you are teh champ, that means you defend the title against those who want to take it. not take the title and hide behind your legal team. and he can’t really complain about the money. the UFC took a big chance, giving a 44 year old an immediate title shot after he’d lost his previous 2 fights. for all they knew he’d break a hip in his fight with silvia.

You know WHAT

I think the UFC made a very specific contract that if Randy decided to Retire just in case lets say he lost 2 fight in a row and just didnt have it no more even though he owed the UFC 2 fights they wouldnt hold it against him if he retired but, he canot go and fight for another organization, because retired mens no more fights, now Randy quit so the court is gonna be confused because who would you give it to a fighter who doesnt want to fulfill his contract no more because of bogus assumptions that (Noguera or Arlovski, etc…) arent worth him fighting anymore, and he wants to quit so he can go fight someone else. Or do you give it to the company and say well you have to either stay retired for good or come back fight 2 more fights with UFC and then go have your dream fight. I dont know man as a fan hell let him fight Fedor already but, logically its not fair to the UFC who gave him a chance after getting knocked out 2 times you know.

wha?

Nobody here knows the contract and anything is just uninformed speculation. I’m sure Randy has lawyers saying he’s right, and UFC lawyers are saying they are right. Cuban must think Randy has some merit if he is going to do this. I just hope Randy can fight Fedor in November of this year.

I wish Randy would man up and honor his contract. I think he’s being a real chump. Like Randy doesn’t have anything to prove against Nog. He has everything to prove.

Mania
You need a lawyer on hand to explain this crap to people. I’m not one but this is getting confusing as hell. I think I have it right but to me the fights left on your contract clause is really something that I think is well “dirty”. This is the same clause that they got AA with and maybe Sylvia. You couldn’t get away with this stuff in Canada.

Adam Swift does a nice job in the actual article. All of his other stuff can be view at MMAPayout.com.

I’m not a lawyer nor will I ever pretend to be one.

Therefore, I recommend reading the Sherdog article in more detail and the n heading over to MMAPayout if you still require further clarification.

Put simply, there are a lot of legal balls in the air right and people are still going to be confused no matter what we do. The big thing to understand here is that this is the first lawsuit that target his promotional contract. That’s the difference.
The entire situation is a total mess. I’d hate to be a judge.

Randy lost.

Hopefully Cuban sees something in Favor of Randy. I dont think he would have gotten involved if he didnt think he could win. Cuban is a big time dude, with LONG pockets. Lets hope Cuban and Couture can win this legal battle. Mar Cuban plays for keeps!

Aaron_W is right, we don’t know what the contract says, so there’s no way to determine or even intelligently discuss who owes what without that. You can make a contract say anything that isn’t illegal, and it is generally enforceable. For all we know, Randy’s contract says he can’t retire unless he farts in Dana’s living room five times a day for a week. Whatever it says, as long as it isn’t illegal, can be enforced.

Cuban wants to promo the Couture-Fedor fight, but doesn’t want a suit filed against him for tortious interference with a contract. He’s doing the smart thing by asking the court to rule on the issue now.

Hopefully Cuban sees something in Favor of Randy. I dont think he would have gotten involved if he didnt think he could win. Cuban is a big time dude, with LONG pockets. Lets hope Cuban and Couture can win this legal battle. Mar Cuban plays for keeps!

Thats what Im saying. Cuban is one of the smartest business guys out there. The guy is extremely competitive and business smart. He would never get involved if he couldnt benefit from it. Another like his is Donald Trump. Crazy business oriented people like them dont get involved unless they know they can win.

Hopefully Cuban sees something in Favor of Randy. I dont think he would have gotten involved if he didnt think he could win. Cuban is a big time dude, with LONG pockets. Lets hope Cuban and Couture can win this legal battle. Mar Cuban plays for keeps!
Thats what Im saying. Cuban is one of the smartest business guys out there. The guy is extremely competitive and business smart. He would never get involved if he couldnt benefit from it. Another like his is Donald Trump. Crazy business oriented people like them dont get involved unless they know they can win.

This is true but i think Dana will appeal if Cuban and Randy win so he can keep Randy tied up for as long as possible. Ler’s not forget Dana has Billonaires backing him also.

I just read some interesting news that Brazil has formed an Athletic Commision. Could this mean future UFC events in Brazil?
UFC could make some big money having an event in Brazil, especially with Brazilians Anderson Silva and Nogueira holding the UFC belts.

They could do a USA vs. Brazil event….It would be amazing!

I also learned that David bielkheden, is training with the brazilian top team to get ready for his fight with Diego Sanchez. I have he feeling he is gonna bring the fight to Diego!

Nice Pic ! =P

Randy just got reinforcements.
HA HA HA !!

This is true but i think Dana will appeal if Cuban and Randy win so he can keep Randy tied up for as long as possible. Ler’s not forget Dana has Billonaires backing him also.

U r also right. Dana is the type of guy who will refuse to loose Randy to Cuban. He will try to tie this mess up in appeals until Randy is like 60 years old. Legal disputes like this are really the worst part about sports. This situation is horrible. Everyone in the world at some point wanted Fedor to fight randy: Cuban, dana, Randy, Fedor along with every other fan and fighter in the world…but legal BS could keep this from ever happening. Its SAD!

Cuban probably looks at this a a no lose situation. If Randy is let out of his contract he wins. If they find in favor of Zuffa he wont be wasting time or money on a fight that wont be happening.

What a worm cuban is… This guys could probably afford his own country and is sueing an MMA competitor so he can have a super fight that (hopefully) will not happen anywhere else but inside the octagon. Fedor and Randy will meet in battle, when and where who knows. I just hope Cuban sees no income from it. I hate him more than DanaW.

What a worm cuban is… This guys could probably afford his own country and is sueing an MMA competitor so he can have a super fight that (hopefully) will not happen anywhere else but inside the octagon. Fedor and Randy will meet in battle, when and where who knows. I just hope Cuban sees no income from it. I hate him more than DanaW.

-BLASPHEMY!!!!

They could do a USA vs. Brazil event….It would be amazing!

They’ve done this before, and it was amazing haha.

I do not know what is happening but I knew this guy was trying to promote this fight.It is a good chance to some millions. The reason why Randy wants to fight Fedor is because if he fights again and he loses then he is not going to be the best and the dream fight will make no sense.I wonder who told Randy that he was the best.who did he fight in last two fights?.Always boring and sloppy Tim and on top of that injured,then lucky, big for nothing Gonzaga neither one is the best.The only thing that Gonzaga has done is to knock out and scare away Mirko who likes to kick people on the head ,but when his is kicked runs away. Come on! I want someone to prove me that Randy is best.In my opinion what he is doing is totally incorrect.I was a big fan of RANDY, not anymore.

Hopefully Cuban sees something in Favor of Randy. I dont think he would have gotten involved if he didnt think he could win. Cuban is a big time dude, with LONG pockets. Lets hope Cuban and Couture can win this legal battle. Mar Cuban plays for keeps!

You know right know this looks pretty 50% P down the middle on which way it could go. Which even if if it was a little more in favor of the UFC, say 60% chance of winning this case, it still would be a wise move on Cuban. For him to drop a few hundred k and have the possibilty of a multi-million dollar fight to take place is well worth his time. A few hundred k is a drop in the bucket for these guys. So he will backup Couture even if the chances are not that good, in hopes that he will be the main promoter on this possible card.

I’m glad Cuban’s involved if it’s gets us to a decision sooner than later. Dana’s a cockblocker – if the fight can’t happen in the UFC, he doesn’t want it to happen at all…..He doesn’t give a sh!t about what the fans want!

They could do a USA vs. Brazil event….It would be amazing!

They’ve done this before, and it was amazing haha.

How but they do it this Decade! Is that better for you?

I do not know what is happening but I knew this guy was trying to promote this fight.It is a good chance to some millions. The reason why Randy wants to fight Fedor is because if he fights again and he loses then he is not going to be the best and the dream fight will make no sense.I wonder who told Randy that he was the best.who did he fight in last two fights?.Always boring and sloppy Tim and on top of that injured,then lucky, big for nothing Gonzaga neither one is the best.The only thing that Gonzaga has done is to knock out and scare away Mirko who likes to kick people on the head ,but when his is kicked runs away. Come on! I want someone to prove me that Randy is best.In my opinion what he is doing is totally incorrect.I was a big fan of RANDY, not anymore.

I see your point. He has never defeated Nog, Fedor or Josh Barnett who are the premiere HW fighters in the world. He has never faced Arlovski, Mir. He is Banking on his name to justify a fight against Fedor. Just like he used his name when coming out of retirment to get a title shot against Tim. He never deserved that title shot in the 1st place, and gonzaga was hardly an opponent who deserved to fight for the championship. It seems like someone has pumped Randy’s head up (Cough Kim Couture Cough) to thinking he deserves to be fighting Fedor, when I dont believe he could get past Nogueira which is right there awaiting for him in the UFC. If he would be an underdog against Nogueira in the Octagon, what makes him think he could beat Fedor in a ring?

I hope Kim Couture gets her teeth knocked out in her up coming fight on HDNet!

Well he fought Barnett but Josh was cheating on roids at the time so who knows how an honest fight would have turned out?

I really don’t think any of this is gonna work out well for the fans. Everyone involved is looking out for themselves. Randy is worried about his legacy and as much as he denies it how much money he’s making, Dana has a business to run and does not want any one other than himself to have this fight and Cuban is a that rich for a reason.

Well he fought Barnett but Josh was cheating on roids at the time so who knows how an honest fight would have turned out?

My point exactly. There are 3 big questions to be answered about his Heavyweight legacy. Can he beat Barnett? Can he beat Nogueira? Can he beat Fedor? Nogueira’s legacy is much more complete, at least he has tested himself against THE BEST. Randy hasn’t.

Who is the best Heavyweight fighter Randy has ever defeated?
Tim Sylvia?
Maurice smith (who isnt exactly todays complet martial artist?

I will always remember Randy as being a great FIGHTER, but I cant say he was one of the greatest heavyweight that I have seen, because he has yet to test himself against the Elite of that division.

As a Lightheavyweight…its a little clearer. He tested himself against Liddell and Vitor 3 times, he dominated Tito who was a legend back then.

But he doesnt have those same tests and accomplishments in his resume as a Heavyweight fighter.

My Question to you all is who do u think is the best Heavyweight that Randy has ever beaten?

Why does everybody think Josh Barnett is so good. Yes, he did beat Randy but Randy was dominating him until Josh got top position. Pedro Rizzo beat Josh. Randy beat Pedro. I just don’t feel Josh is one of the top five heavyweights.

This is a great thing that Cuban is doing, I don’t know why everyone is hating. Every since Randy retired there has been a debate about his contract. Cuban is a smart guy and doing this to find out what is going on. Bottom line everyone, he is doing this so Randy-Fedor can fight! Who cares what his motives are.

I would have to assume its Sylvia.

I feel that Randy is the best HW. I think what he should do is fight Nog. If he remains champ the UFC will not have the opportunity to put him on the back burner like AA. If he wins, his case has much more validity. If Dana won’t cooperate then I say he just takes a dive on the next fight and then the contract is up. Now he can go fight Fedor.

Now if he loses to Nog. Then he never really had any basis for his complaint in the first place. By doing it this way he would get to fight Fedor alot sooner than waiting on the courts.

I feel that Randy is the best HW. I think what he should do is fight Nog. If he remains champ the UFC will not have the opportunity to put him on the back burner like AA. If he wins, his case has much more validity. If Dana won’t cooperate then I say he just takes a dive on the next fight and then the contract is up. Now he can go fight Fedor.
Now if he loses to Nog. Then he never really had any basis for his complaint in the first place. By doing it this way he would get to fight Fedor alot sooner than waiting on the courts.

One big problem with this idea is i think Randy would be too proud to take a dive.

Here’s some legal insight on this Lawsuit I call a JOKE on paper. FIRST Randy Couture VIOLATED his contract, he did not HONOR IT, a Contract is a legal document. The UFC is the company that was affected by the actions of Randy Couture. This Contract INVOLVED only UFC and RC that is it. HDNet and this Mark Cuban are simply attempting to stick their nose where it don’t belong, Randy Couture is not their fighter, is not signed to them, basically RC is none of their business. They are simply trying to somehow “see what happens” with their joke of a lawsuit, with their ultimate goal of having Couture Vs Fedor by years end, ANY JUDGE with a brain will tell HDNET and Cuban, to F… OFF and stop trying to be opportunistic and I BET MY LIFE, that lawsuit will dissolve, it will be dismissed. Randy will not fight Fedor. The best thing he could have done is fulfill his 2 remaining fights and be free, but breach of contract? I DON’T THINK SO. He will lose in that case the UFC has against him, it’s a given he very well knows he violated the contract agreement. HDNET and Cuban know Randy is in deep S… so they are trying like I said to aid him, their lawsuit carries no weight, none whatsoever. Randy will be made an example out of, and all Fedor and Cuban will be able to do is watch.

One big problem with this idea is i think Randy would be too proud to take a dive.

Just before the event he could announce that he was going to walk out there and put his opponent on his back and then tap. What a statement that would be to the UFC!

That would just be bad for everyone but if Dana’s treatment of his fighters is that bad then someone will have to step up to the plate. I have mixed feelings about all of this. Just wish it would all get straightened out. The sport is getting so popular now that the money is causing us to miss out on some fights that would be spectacular.

Here’s some legal insight on this Lawsuit I call a JOKE on paper. FIRST Randy Couture VIOLATED his contract, he did not HONOR IT, a Contract is a legal document. The UFC is the company that was affected by the actions of Randy Couture. This Contract INVOLVED only UFC and RC that is it. HDNet and this Mark Cuban are simply attempting to stick their nose where it don’t belong, Randy Couture is not their fighter, is not signed to them, basically RC is none of their business. They are simply trying to somehow “see what happens” with their joke of a lawsuit, with their ultimate goal of having Couture Vs Fedor by years end, ANY JUDGE with a brain will tell HDNET and Cuban, to F… OFF and stop trying to be opportunistic and I BET MY LIFE, that lawsuit will dissolve, it will be dismissed. Randy will not fight Fedor. The best thing he could have done is fulfill his 2 remaining fights and be free, but breach of contract? I DON’T THINK SO. He will lose in that case the UFC has against him, it’s a given he very well knows he violated the contract agreement. HDNET and Cuban know Randy is in deep S… so they are trying like I said to aid him, their lawsuit carries no weight, none whatsoever. Randy will be made an example out of, and all Fedor and Cuban will be able to do is watch.

LMAO !! !!
Ha ha ha =P

“Say Helo to my little friend”

I don’t if anyone has but i think someone needs to ask Randy what about the fans who want to see him fight and there is a good fight with Big Nog waiting for him it is the fans who are the reason he has a job anyways.

Why does everybody think Josh Barnett is so good. Yes, he did beat Randy but Randy was dominating him until Josh got top position. Pedro Rizzo beat Josh. Randy beat Pedro. I just don’t feel Josh is one of the top five heavyweights.

AGREE!

Josh is a great fighter, but i think his name is being thrown out there as one of the top simply because there really isnt anybody out there anymore to throw. And no, you dont have to beat every single fighter on the face of the earth to be considered one of the best!

RANDY is one of the best because he has been a champion a few times over has been consistently fighting the best the UFC has thrown at him! beating Rizzo in his prime, along with silvia, gonzaga, lidell, tito, belfort etc is enough in my books to be considered one of the greatest! and as mma fans, what is wrong with supporting a guy who wants to make the fight happen so bad? hes not asking for a tomato can is he? hes asking for the best potential matchup ever, i thought this why we are all MMA fans, but some of you find a way to take on the danas side like if he was giving u a share of the huge profits he makes or something?
I question many fans of the sport here who choose to take danas side because as fans, all we want to see is the best possible fights and randy and fedor want to do it but danas ego and control is not allowing it!

It’s funny how so many people here think they know the specifics of the contract or what Randy “should” do. Two things about this case seem abundantly obvious. One is that Dana is the type of businessman that would make arbitration practically impossible. Secondly, if Randy ever fights again, it won’t be under the promotion of Dana and the UFC. Let’s be realistic, that bridge was torched months ago. At this point, nothing short of a courtroom battle will settle this, and for some reason I just can’t see a judge forcing Randy back into the octogon for two more fights. The legal interpretation of the contract may indeed be that Randy can either fight twice more in the UFC or not at all and possibly face punitive damages, but if that’s the case I think Randy’s just done with fighting (for real this time).

I dont even want to see a Couture/Fedor fight any more theres no way it will live up to the hype.

AGREE!

Josh is a great fighter, but i think his name is being thrown out there as one of the top simply because there really isnt anybody out there anymore to throw. And no, you dont have to beat every single fighter on the face of the earth to be considered one of the best!

RANDY is one of the best because he has been a champion a few times over has been consistently fighting the best the UFC has thrown at him! beating Rizzo in his prime, along with silvia, gonzaga, lidell, tito, belfort etc is enough in my books to be considered one of the greatest! and as mma fans, what is wrong with supporting a guy who wants to make the fight happen so bad? hes not asking for a tomato can is he? hes asking for the best potential matchup ever, i thought this why we are all MMA fans, but some of you find a way to take on the danas side like if he was giving u a share of the huge profits he makes or something?
I question many fans of the sport here who choose to take danas side because as fans, all we want to see is the best possible fights and randy and fedor want to do it but danas ego and control is not allowing it!

i say we quit talkin about randy he is a sellout,,he turned his back on the people who made him dana white and the ufc fans..i say let him go he is only good now cause of all the hgh,,,and now his gold digger wife is takeing it too

his new contract will b mark cuban giveing him and his wife free hgh for life

I would love to see the fight, but Cuban is a tool.

Why is Cuban getting involved in MMA? Oh that’s right, he has the money. Even without a fraction of an idea about fighting, these rich guys can hop on the wagon and buy in. Ridiculous. Mark Cuban needs to sit down in his arena seat, yell at his Mavs, and stay the fuck out of the fight game. He has no idea about it. Has he ever even been in a fight? What a joke. Frank Shamrock is right. The fighters need to be in more control. Cuban is a geek, not a fighter. Take your b-ball, and GO HOME.

With that said, I loved Randy Couture’s whining in his vids months back. He kept on saying how it wasn’t about the money, then a minute later he would mention fighters who were getting paid more. You’re not fooling me, Randy. You’re clear like glass, I can see right through. It’s about the money, Randy. It’s ALWAYS about the money.

I completely forgot that Randy beat Rizzo in his Prime…thats an impressive win, but other then that Randy has not had that great of a heavyweight career. When u compare the competition he has faced at heavyweight, with the competition Barnett, Fedor and Nogueira have faced at HW…Randy isnt even close.

I will remeber randy as a legendary fighter, but just an OK Heavyweight.

The UFC is right, Randy signed the contract and owes them 2 fights. he just can’t leave because he doesn’t feel like fighting anymore and wants to pick and choose his opponents liek Fedor. Randy, you are teh champ, that means you defend the title against those who want to take it. not take the title and hide behind your legal team. and he can’t really complain about the money. the UFC took a big chance, giving a 44 year old an immediate title shot after he’d lost his previous 2 fights. for all they knew he’d break a hip in his fight with silvia.

not to mention his two loses were in a lower weight class!!

Randy is number 3 in the world, Nog is #2, Fedor is #1……. Randy should fight Nog winner should get rights to fedor no matter what their contract sats…..this is theway it should be…Randy, Dana …please tll me your reading and do something positive FOR THE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CUBAN JUMPING IN AND FILING A LAWSUIT IS GOOD!:

The “declaratory relief” will settle the issue of when the contract really ends. Being “declaratory relief”, the court will rule soon.

This is also good for those of us who want to know what the contract really says, to get Randy Couture back to the one or two fights he might have left in his twightlight years.

This lawsuit could break the stranglehold Dana thinks he has on Randy. Dana’s spin will be ignored in the court of law.

CUBAN JUMPING IN AND FILING A LAWSUIT IS GOOD!:

It is my understanding that Zuffa has filed a multi-dimensional lawsuit that infers that Randy’s behaviour has been orchestrated with the help of others (perhaps Cuban?) inorder to hurt the UFC. If Cuban is one of the people in the UFC’s lawsuit, this move by Cuban might not be a good one since it would lead the court to believe that he was indeed involved in the collusion. At any rate, IMO the Fertitta’s will tie this up in court until Randy caves or he is collecting Social Security. Randy is at fault here. The Fertitta’s are very “streetsmart”. I don’t see them losing “when push comes to shove”.

What a worm cuban is… This guys could probably afford his own country and is sueing an MMA competitor so he can have a super fight that (hopefully) will not happen anywhere else but inside the octagon. Fedor and Randy will meet in battle, when and where who knows. I just hope Cuban sees no income from it. I hate him more than DanaW.

There is absolutely no chance Randy ever fights for UFC again, so just put that idea to rest right now. The overwhelming opinion on this blog is that people want to see Randy-Fedor, and the only way that happens is if a judge rules that Randy’s obligations to UFC expire in October. Otherwise Dana can drag this out in courts until both Randy and Fedor are too old to put on a compelling fight.

[quote comment=“313000”]Why is Cuban getting involved in MMA? Oh that’s right, he has the money. Even without a fraction of an idea about fighting, these rich guys can hop on the wagon and buy in. Ridiculous. Mark Cuban needs to sit down in his arena seat, yell at his Mavs, and stay the fuck out of the fight game. He has no idea about it. Has he ever even been in a fight? What a joke. Frank Shamrock is right. The fighters need to be in more control. Cuban is a geek, not a fighter. Take your b-ball, and GO HOME.

Think whatever you want of Mark Cuban on a personal level, but I fail to see how he’s unqualified to get involved in MMA promotions. One thing he has going for him that Dana may never have is treating his athletes more like professionals than something he owns. I don’t see how having Cuban involved is going to bad for the fighters, if anything it adds options to their career path.

I completely forgot that Randy beat Rizzo in his Prime…thats an impressive win, but other then that Randy has not had that great of a heavyweight career. When u compare the competition he has faced at heavyweight, with the competition Barnett, Fedor and Nogueira have faced at HW…Randy isnt even close.

I will remeber randy as a legendary fighter, but just an OK Heavyweight.

Rizzo should be ranked higher than Barnett. Head over to sherdog and look up Barnett’s record and then Rizzo’s. Rizzo’s has the who’s who of the HW’s. Barnett is sooo overated and I think the only reason is that he beat CroCop and Randy.

About time the UFC will finally get a taste of their own medicine!!

WAR RANDY!!!!

I completely forgot that Randy beat Rizzo in his Prime…thats an impressive win, but other then that Randy has not had that great of a heavyweight career. When u compare the competition he has faced at heavyweight, with the competition Barnett, Fedor and Nogueira have faced at HW…Randy isnt even close.
I will remeber randy as a legendary fighter, but just an OK Heavyweight.
Rizzo should be ranked higher than Barnett. Head over to sherdog and look up Barnett’s record and then Rizzo’s. Rizzo’s has the who’s who of the HW’s. Barnett is sooo overated and I think the only reason is that he beat CroCop and Randy

Barnett Lost to CroCop all three times they fought.

Man I don’t konw much about Cuban, and i’ll admit I didnt like the idea of some greedy millionare getting in on MMA, I don’t like the idea of a bunch of organizations with all the talent being so spread out. However, I’m so down for him winning this one it’s not even funny. I hate the stubborness of the UFC and Dana on this one.
I wanna see the UFC loose this battle SOOOO bad!!

About time the UFC will finally get a taste of their own medicine!!

WAR RANDY!!!!

randy is a greedy punk im soooooo happy the ufc wont let that punk get what he wants,,,whatever happend to sign a contract and finish it out,,,im so sick of that crybaby randy i wish he would jus suck it up…i dont know how much longer all that hgh will work he is gettin old,,,,without hgh where would randy be,,,sitting at home wit his skank gold-digger wife watchin the lifetime movie of the week

Randy isn’t asking for much, considering his reputation, what he’s done for the UFC and what this fight would mean for the fans. He has my 100% support !

The UFC should chose their battles wisely. It would be no surprise if “The Natural” was to ‘upset’ Zuffa in this courtroom war!

Hey mania, Randy is gonna be on InsideMMA along with his wife, Kim, and Gina Corano (Sp?). I wouldn’t be surprised if he has something to say about this.

I haven’t been following the Couture VS ZUFFA as of late, so I may have missed another court filing or something. I may be wrong of course… BUT here’s what I got out of it so far.

ZUFFA is only suing on the basis of the employment/commentating contract for now? Is that right?

IF anything goes badly for Zuffa in this legal issue. Another lawsuit to be filed with legal claims about Couture’s fighting contract (or has that lawsuit already been filed)? As to date I believe Zuffa is seeing if they can get an injunction without having to subject all of their fighter contracts under the legal microscope.

The lawsuit also alleges conspiracy.

The legal battle goes further than October of 2009. White/Zuffa wants to OWN Couture FOR LIFE with these clauses if he is unable to accept a fight regardless of resignation, injury, retirement or anything else.. period.. No-compete clauses lasting more than one year generally do not do well in court. IF Zuffa wins this legal battle they will OWN ALL FIGHTER’S for the duration of the contract, regardless of any time limitations … yet.. cancel a fighter’s contract at will.. which they have done plenty of times.

I think if ZUFFA wins, this may be bad for the fighters contract.

Hopefully I haven’t missed to much recent info on this… but that’s the take I get on it.

I haven’t been following the Couture VS ZUFFA as of late, so I may have missed another court filing or something. I may be wrong of course… BUT here’s what I got out of it so far.

ZUFFA is only suing on the basis of the employment/commentating contract for now? Is that right?

IF anything goes badly for Zuffa in this legal issue. Another lawsuit to be filed with legal claims about Couture’s fighting contract (or has that lawsuit already been filed)? As to date I believe Zuffa is seeing if they can get an injunction without having to subject all of their fighter contracts under the legal microscope.

The lawsuit also alleges conspiracy.

The legal battle goes further than October of 2009. White/Zuffa wants to OWN Couture FOR LIFE with these clauses if he is unable to accept a fight regardless of resignation, injury, retirement or anything else.. period.. No-compete clauses lasting more than one year generally do not do well in court. IF Zuffa wins this legal battle they will OWN ALL FIGHTER’S for the duration of the contract, regardless of any time limitations … yet.. cancel a fighter’s contract at will.. which they have done plenty of times.

I think if ZUFFA wins, this may be bad for the fighters contract.

Hopefully I haven’t missed to much recent info on this… but that’s the take I get on it.

From a legal perspective, the tampering/conspiracy portion of Zuffa’s lawsuit against Couture has the potential to be embarrassing and financially damaging to both Couture and his alleged conspirators. IMO there is no doubt that Couture’s bizarre behaviour was co-ordinatied with at least a third party (possibly Cuban). IMO Couture has allowed himself to be manipulated. I speculate that Cuban has offered Couture “a piece of the action”. Personally, as I stated earlier, I can’t see Cuban “outmuscling” the Fertitta brothers. Couture has lost a lot of fans. This has been a really dumb move for him.

Im sure the UFC has top of the line lawyers so if they say Randy cant fight, then there’s probably less than a 5 percent chance they’re bluffing.

Thats what Im saying. Cuban is one of the smartest business guys out there. The guy is extremely competitive and business smart. He would never get involved if he couldnt benefit from it. Another like his is Donald Trump. Crazy business oriented people like them dont get involved unless they know they can win.

Hey mania, Randy is gonna be on InsideMMA along with his wife, Kim, and Gina Corano (Sp?). I wouldn’t be surprised if he has something to say about this.

why are him and his gold-digger wife gonna b on there they giveing away free hgh

COUTURE WILL FIGHT FEDOR.. you cannot stop a man from making a living so the court will decide on his favor..
just like in pacquiao case, he signed two contracts (delahoya and top rank) but the judge decided in favor of pacman..

I haven’t been following the Couture VS ZUFFA as of late, so I may have missed another court filing or something. I may be wrong of course… BUT here’s what I got out of it so far.

ZUFFA is only suing on the basis of the employment/commentating contract for now? Is that right?

IF anything goes badly for Zuffa in this legal issue. Another lawsuit to be filed with legal claims about Couture’s fighting contract (or has that lawsuit already been filed)? As to date I believe Zuffa is seeing if they can get an injunction without having to subject all of their fighter contracts under the legal microscope.

The lawsuit also alleges conspiracy.

The legal battle goes further than October of 2009. White/Zuffa wants to OWN Couture FOR LIFE with these clauses if he is unable to accept a fight regardless of resignation, injury, retirement or anything else.. period.. No-compete clauses lasting more than one year generally do not do well in court. IF Zuffa wins this legal battle they will OWN ALL FIGHTER’S for the duration of the contract, regardless of any time limitations … yet.. cancel a fighter’s contract at will.. which they have done plenty of times.

I think if ZUFFA wins, this may be bad for the fighters contract.

Hopefully I haven’t missed to much recent info on this… but that’s the take I get on it.

THORAZINE: I also feel that the UFC is trying to keep the fighter contracts from being made public. Thats why for now, they are only suing on the employment contract. I think that the UFC will do whatever it can to not have the fight contract go public, because once they sue for breacj of the fight contract, we will all have access to the details of Rand’s fight contract.

I also agree that if Zuffa wins this law suit, it will mean big trouble for the fighters. I have a feeling however that Randy will get cleared to fight after next october. I am no legal specialist, its just a gut feeling I have.

Kim Couture = Yoko Ono of the UFC!

I think the UFC made a very specific contract that if Randy decided to Retire just in case lets say he lost 2 fight in a row and just didnt have it no more even though he owed the UFC 2 fights they wouldnt hold it against him if he retired but, he canot go and fight for another organization, because retired mens no more fights, now Randy quit so the court is gonna be confused because who would you give it to a fighter who doesnt want to fulfill his contract no more because of bogus assumptions that (Noguera or Arlovski, etc…) arent worth him fighting anymore, and he wants to quit so he can go fight someone else. Or do you give it to the company and say well you have to either stay retired for good or come back fight 2 more fights with UFC and then go have your dream fight. I dont know man as a fan hell let him fight Fedor already but, logically its not fair to the UFC who gave him a chance after getting knocked out 2 times you know.

Heck yeah, Randy used to be my favorite fighter the UFC made him who he is and he helped make them what they are but he has shown he is an irreverent, irresponsible, ungrateful money grubber. He doesn’t care about fighting the best, he cares about MONEY. Oh yeah give Timmah a rematch and see what happens with a good back, post surgery. Or even throw him to Big Nog, a big guy with ground game, what has Randy historically had trouble with? Maybe it’s not just money, maybe he knows he’ll own chump boy Fedor but Nog will choke his ass out.