Damn right. Dana needs to allow this. I’m not a Fedor nuthugger, more of a Randy fan actually. But Fedor has already proved himself time and time again. UFC contracts are too crappy, everyone knows that, he didnt go for it. I like how Fedor did this, very nice.

Stay there, who cares about Fedor.

“I MUST BREAK YOU, RANDY!”

Come on Dana, he is daring you to make it happen.

I am the winner… Fedor/Randy in the UFC will never happen. Besides I’d rather see Randy fight Nog to see who the real UFC champion is. Nog impressed the hell out of me agaisn’t big goofy Tim. After Randy loses to Nog the Fedor fight won’t matter.

Seems Dana is the Bad guy of the picture. Thanks to Dana MMA is growing, fighters are getting more money, tv deals, books, clothing companies, etc. Even there’re more new MMA orgs growing and Randy is captain moron because thanks to the UFC he’s millionaire. You don’t shit where you eat.

This wouldn’t be an issue Fedor if you’d have signed with Zuffa to begin with. Yes it was a binding contract, but these are necessary for the business model and to prevent fighters from picking and choosing their fights, which IMO is something you wanted a lot of control over.

Nog is getting washed up. I didn’t like he’s two last fights. He can submit Silvia but he won sub Couture.

BE CAREFUL FEDOR,
you could be the next
UFC Lawsuit Of The Day!

Dear Fedor,

All Dana cares about is money.

Dana has disrespected dozens of it’s own fighters and even sued legendary Randy Couture. He certainly doesn’t care what you have to say – - unless you are willing to be his whore – and give him all your blood, sweat and years of cash generating talent.

Unionize the UFC!

The Randy fight is my goal number one right now,

Amen. Color me stupid, but this give me hope that Fedor v. Randy can actually happen. I sure hope Randy has great lawyers.

If Dana keeps making dumb ass comments like Fedor is a farce, dont be suprised if Fedor sues Dana for defamation of chrachter, like fedor said hes not ganna tolerate his antics any longer.

Every one has an opinion about Fedor wether you love him or hate but the facts are clear and cant be uncontested that he is one of the very best MMA fighters in the world and a respectable and honorable champion.

Dana did act like a teenager after he lost out on Fedor, which I was sorry to see. It only showed me that he was pissed off for losing out on him. What does it hurt when you have 2 organizations face off? Ultimately this is all for the fans, this is what we want to see. Dana is losing favor with me rapidly, especially if he lets Arlovski go. And what’s up with paying Lesnar getting paid $200k in his first fight???

LOL…….F@^* Fedor, I not sure what’s funnier
this statement or his last 5 opponent’s

Is this for real! Dana White would never ok a fight under another Banner or Co-Promote an event with any org. Come on now!

Fedor to Dana..

“In the future I wouldn’t want to hear those statements in my address ever again and I won’t tolerate that.”

Wow… I’m sure Dana White is shaking under his bed!!!! What are you gona do Fedor? Please Fedor, shut up and do not talk again.

Wow. You cant just turn your back on the Greatest fight of all time. What kind of MMA fan does that make you?

Once in a while you gotta man up and do what is good for the the sport, what is good for the fighters, what is good for the fans, and what is good for the world… even if it means making a bad business decision.

Its all about the competition. If there wasn’t any good competition the sport would have died forever ago.

Sometimes people forget the original reason why they originally got involved with this sport. Whether it was karate classes when you were 8 years or just taking a wrestling class in high school.

Bottom line is this fight will happen. Fans will make it happen. The fighters will make it happen. and the sport will make it happen. And it will.

Dont turn your back on us Dana. You’re a man. The sport needs it. I know you dont wanna back down…..

But please dont turn your back on us.

-The biggest MMA fan from your home town Southie!

This wouldn’t be an issue Fedor if you’d have signed with Zuffa to begin with. Yes it was a binding contract, but these are necessary for the business model and to prevent fighters from picking and choosing their fights, which IMO is something you wanted a lot of control over.

of course. fedor would rather fight people he can easily beat instead of the top talent.

I’ve got to believe that if the UFC was for sale it would make sense to have the Fedor Randy fight scheduled. They would be able to increase their asking price on the merit of that event alone.

Dear Fedor,

All Dana cares about is money.

Tell Bill Gates to lower his prices.
How about Nike? Tell them to sell shoes at $40!

All Dana cares about his money? No shit!

Tell Fedor to take a hike. It is over!

Every one has an opinion about Fedor wether you love him or hate but the facts are clear and cant be uncontested that he is one of the very best MMA fighters in the world and a respectable and honorable champion.

Yeah… sure…. Shogun too. I have no respect for Fedor until I see him fighting 3 UFC fighters.

Fedor has already destroyed Nog twice. I’m sorry, I like and respect Randy but he is overrated. 15-8 is hardly the record of a supreme fighter. Nog and Sylvia both have way better records than him. I hate Sylvia and I wont make excuses for him, but I think he was hurt during his fight with Couture. I don’t think Randy could put Fedor on his back and he sure as hell wont outbox him. This whole situation is ridiculous. I want to see it too but Randy and Fedor is NOT the biggest fight of all time. Its just the only huge matchup thats left in the HW division.

On a side note, will someone please convince CroCop to drop to 205 and fight Chuck. Please?

Fedor vs randy this fight we all want to se! Dana let Randy go so they can finally fight!

Fedor and M1 want the fight so badly and are saying these things because it promotes M1. Making the fight happen makes no sense for the UFC. They may gain a large payday for that one fight, but it will pale in comparison to how much they would lose in the future to M1 just from the exposure M1 would receive, regardless if Fedor won or lost. It seems to me, and you can disagree if you want, and you’re stupid if you do, that Fedor thought he was worth more than he is, and Dana saw that. It makes me laugh to think that the two reasons Randy left are completely contradictory to each other. “You didn’t sign Fedor.” “Other fighters get paid more than me.” When in order to sign Fedor, Dana would have had to up his pay to much more than Randy’s, or anyone in the organization for that matter. I think Dana made the right decision in not signing him. You ask MOST of the fighters, really in any organization, and they will tell you UFC is the best. They have the best fighters AND the the best deals for fighters. Urijah Faber said he wished the UFC had a featherweight division. And he has a belt in WEC.

So, to recap. Fedor is an overrated fight dodger who fights crappy fighters, Randy is a big cry baby who no one understands because WE ALL know that Fedor is overrated, why can’t he realize it? and Dana is a smart business man who says what he thinks and is, for the most part, a good decision maker.

Ok. I’m done.

Bring on the haters.

This is a business as much as a sport. Does the NFL allows its players to go play for whatever team he wants to when he wants to? If the best fighters are in one place and you want to fight the best go to that place. Leave that joke of a promotion you are with or shut up.

As for Dana he should just ignore Fedor. Damn guy is just rotting where he is. Let him stay there and everyone will forget how good he was in pride. If he continues to fight jokes he will become one.

Boy, Fedor is as dumb as he looks apparently.

On a side note, will someone please convince CroCop to drop to 205 and fight Chuck. Please?

Have you seen Cro Cop? There’s no way he could get down to 205 unless he was hiding a kid in those little bike shorts.

I don’t see how anyone can possibly blame Dana for not wanting to do cross-promos with inferior leagues, thereby giving them legitimacy. That’s a terrible business decision.

Dana did try to throw tons of money at Fedor to get him to sign with the UFC, so again, you can’t blame Dana for not trying (he also offered him an instant title shot). If anything, Dana tried so hard (with so much money), that it insulted some of his currently signed fighters (Couture, Arlovski and now Ortiz—big surprise) who are now leaving because of it.

The only way you can fault Dana, IMO, is with the whole “binding contracts” thing, where Fedor would have to give up fighting in Russian Sambo tournys if he wanted to sign with the UFC. if you want to fault Dana for that, then fine. but what else is the guy supposed to do?

Is it really 100 percent Dana’s fault? Does Fedor and his management not deserve at least part of the blame for wanting the moon on a silver platter? I understand that Fedor is the world’s best MMA fighter, but at the end of the day, the UFC has a business to run, and they already risked pissing off their existing talent pool by offering Fedor the moon. The moon plus a b.j. wouldn’t have really been the best business decision, but that’s what Fedor and his managers were asking for.

Fedor and M1 want the fight so badly and are saying these things because it promotes M1. Making the fight happen makes no sense for the UFC. They may gain a large payday for that one fight, but it will pale in comparison to how much they would lose in the future to M1 just from the exposure M1 would receive, regardless if Fedor won or lost. It seems to me, and you can disagree if you want, and you’re stupid if you do, that Fedor thought he was worth more than he is, and Dana saw that. It makes me laugh to think that the two reasons Randy left are completely contradictory to each other. “You didn’t sign Fedor.” “Other fighters get paid more than me.” When in order to sign Fedor, Dana would have had to up his pay to much more than Randy’s, or anyone in the organization for that matter. I think Dana made the right decision in not signing him. You ask MOST of the fighters, really in any organization, and they will tell you UFC is the best. They have the best fighters AND the the best deals for fighters. Urijah Faber said he wished the UFC had a featherweight division. And he has a belt in WEC.

So, to recap. Fedor is an overrated fight dodger who fights crappy fighters, Randy is a big cry baby who no one understands because WE ALL know that Fedor is overrated, why can’t he realize it? and Dana is a smart business man who says what he thinks and is, for the most part, a good decision maker.

Ok. I’m done.

Bring on the haters.

Buddy….right F@#$% ON. I’m agree with U 200%. I’m in the MMA world and EVERYbody Wants to be there. Pride figters, elite xc fighters, Cage rage

If Fedor really wanted to face UFC fighters, he should have signed with the UFC. He chose to sign with a rival organization, and complains about how the UFC isn’t being fair to his, Randy’s, or the world’s wishes. Seems to me Fedor could have solved all of this by signing with the UFC, where everyone he wants to fight is employed.

Fedor is shitting his pants. He knows he will loose in the UFC.

Wow. You cant just turn your back on the Greatest fight of all time. What kind of MMA fan does that make you?

Once in a while you gotta man up and do what is good for the the sport, what is good for the fighters, what is good for the fans, and what is good for the world… even if it means making a bad business decision.

Its all about the competition. If there wasn’t any good competition the sport would have died forever ago.

Sometimes people forget the original reason why they originally got involved with this sport. Whether it was karate classes when you were 8 years or just taking a wrestling class in high school.

Bottom line is this fight will happen. Fans will make it happen. The fighters will make it happen. and the sport will make it happen. And it will.

Dont turn your back on us Dana. You’re a man. The sport needs it. I know you dont wanna back down…..

But please dont turn your back on us.

-The biggest MMA fan from your home town Southie!

I think communist Russia tried this once… history lesson… utopian dreams look good on paper but they always fail in practice. Sorry dude – come back to the real world. We’ll all be waiting for you.

The whole world is eager to see me fight your champions, people don’t want to listen to your press-conferences.

This hints of desperation on Fedor’s part. Fedor knows he is only hurting his status as the best heavyweight in the world while fighting weak opponents. He had his chance to sign with the UFC, and for whatever reasons, he didn’t. Now he says he wants to fight the UFC’s best??? Can’t have your cake and eat it too Fedor. I have tons of respect for Fedor, but he is as much to blame for this fight not happening as Dana is.

Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights. He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.

[quote comment=“300719”]Dana did try to throw tons of money at Fedor to get him to sign with the UFC, so again, you can’t blame Dana for not trying (he also offered him an instant title shot). If anything, Dana tried so hard (with so much money), that it insulted some of his currently signed fighters (Couture, Arlovski and now Ortiz—big surprise) who are now leaving because of it.quote]

Man no one cares about ortiz or arlovski, they are boring and not very good. If you do care about them, then try watching Cheick Kongo or even Brock Lesnar, they are much more exciting and much more watchable than those two. And if you are just gay for boring fighters, watch Lyoto Machida, he’s boring as hell but at least he wins all the time.

P.S. Wagnerav, those comments were not meant for you, you had a great comment, the “you” I used was a generic one. Sorry if there was confusion.

A lot of UFC fans are unaware of the UFC’s bad business practices.

Fedor is ranked #1 in most Heavyweight rankings:
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/topten.asp?articleid=16&zoneid=15

If Dana can’t get a fighter to sign for peanuts, he slams them. Dana is the Don King of MMA.

Fedor…shut up!

Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.

All whashed up fighters. Hearring!!! Cro cop!!! Coleman!!!! Oh please man….please stop there. and Nog is pathetic. He was getting destroy by T. Silvia. Couture won’t get sub so easy as Tim.

Fedor is a FARSE.

Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.

LOL Heath Herring? you think that makes him a better heavyweight? who hasn’t beat Herring lately? He’s beaten people that are getting killed in the UFC woohoo. who has he fought lately? a guy in his first pro fight and a middleweight. fedor has his record because he picks and chooses his opponents in order to keep his record in tact, not to prove that he is deserving of said record.

Seems Dana is the Bad guy of the picture. Thanks to Dana MMA is growing, fighters are getting more money, tv deals, books, clothing companies, etc. Even there’re more new MMA orgs growing and Randy is captain moron because thanks to the UFC he’s millionaire. You don’t shit where you eat.

if fighters are getting more money it isn’t coming from the UFC. If you find the average payday for fighters excluding Lesnar, Mir, Sylvia and Nogueiras’ salaries, fighters on the last PPV made an average of $19,000. Compare that to any other sport other than say curling, lawnbowling, darts and horseshoes, and i’d have to say that they are pretty underpaid for what they do for a living. The “superstars” get a nice chunk of money but compared to boxing they get nothing.

Yes Fedor wants the fight with UFC fighters, but what spurred this comment on was Dana acting like a 14 year old teenage girl after Fedor broke her….er, I mean his heart.

If Dana were capable of keeping his mouth shut and not call out everyone not hanging off of his teet then Fedor wouldn’t have to release statments like this too shut him up.

All whashed up fighters. Hearring!!! Cro cop!!! Coleman!!!! Oh please man….please stop there. and Nog is pathetic. He was getting destroy by T. Silvia. Couture won’t get sub so easy as Tim.

Herring was up and coming when Fedor fought him and nobody really knew who Fedor was at the time. Cro Cop was in his prime , so was Coleman.

Please watch MMA before 2006 before commenting again, thanks.

I don’t think Fedor is a bad fighter. On the contrary I think he’s a great fighter. Just not worth as much as he thinks, and dodges fights to keep is mystiqued reputation as the best in the world. And as long as we’re comparing, let’s compare Pride fighters who have come to the UFC. With the exception of Rampage (You can’t count Nog, who beat a washed up and seriously low self-esteemed Tim Silvia), Pride Fighters don’t have what UFC ones do.

On a side note I love Tim Silvia, and I can’t really see how anyone can’t. I mean the guy puts on no facade at all. I do wish though that he fought like he used to. I don’t see how he could ever knock anyone out with the way he throws punches now.

Yeah… sure…. Shogun too. I have no respect for Fedor until I see him fighting 3 UFC fighters.

what 3 ufc fighters do you want him to fight you act like the best heavy weights are still with the ufc fedor won’t have to fight in the ufc soon because all the best h.w.’s are not there. fedor barnett randy aa and soon sylvia

Open letter to Fedor: You made the mistake of signing with M1 knowing the fight with Randy woudnt happen. Your reputation is diminishing without fighting the top talent and at this point people are getting tired of Randy not being man enough to honor his commitments. The interest in this fight is dwindling as nobody wants to see 07’s top fighters fight in 09. they want to see the current top fighters fight. It appears that when this fight does happen it will not live up to the hype. Nobody wants to see randy ride his rascal scooter into the ring to get beat up, the interest just isnt there. At this point the only person who cares about this fight is Randy.

Yeah… sure…. Shogun too. I have no respect for Fedor until I see him fighting 3 UFC fighters.

1. Heath Herring
2. Mirko Cro Cop
3. Current HW (interim) champ – Antonio Nogueria x2

What exactly does he need to prove to you further?

Open letter to Fedor: You made the mistake of signing with M1 knowing the fight with Randy woudnt happen. Your reputation is diminishing without fighting the top talent and at this point people are getting tired of Randy not being man enough to honor his commitments. The interest in this fight is dwindling as nobody wants to see 07’s top fighters fight in 09. they want to see the current top fighters fight. It appears that when this fight does happen it will not live up to the hype. Nobody wants to see randy ride his rascal scooter into the ring to get beat up, the interest just isnt there. At this point the only person who cares about this fight is Randy.

Hilarious. I don’t believe for a second that Fedor wants this fight. He knows it won’t happen so he can say anything he wants.

DoctorSamson, no confusion, but thanks. I agree with your comments, although I don’t know if I think Fedor is overrated necessarily. Still, it’s a shame he didn’t sign with the UFC.

I think a lot of MMA fans forget that when PRIDE was crumbling, and the UFC was signing over most of the PRIDE guys, everyone was praising Dana for FINALLY bringing together all of the best talent. Some of these same folks are blasting Dana now. It doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m not saying we should all love Dana, but the UFC is doing what it can to retain the best fighters in the world. Their practices might not be the best, but where would we be without it? I mean, don’t we want to have the best fighters all under one roof? I know I do. It makes sense that a few will slip through the cracks.

At this point the only person who cares about this fight is Randy.

Speak for yourself. I, as well as every friend I watch the PPV’s with still want to see that fight very much.

And at this rate most of the top heavyweights will not be in the UFC by the end of the year. Fedor is only 31, AA is in his 20’s Big Tim is still plenty young, and so is Big Nog. In the next 4 years all of those guys could realistically end up fighting each other outside of the UFC all while the UFC has nothing but Lesnar and the Cheik Kongo’s of the world.

please someone name a h.w. with the ufc that stands a chance against him since most of you think the ufc H.W

On a side note I love Tim Silvia, and I can’t really see how anyone can’t. I mean the guy puts on no facade at all. I do wish though that he fought like he used to. I don’t see how he could ever knock anyone out with the way he throws punches now

The fight with Nog was hope that maybe Tim will go back to fighting like he used to. I was so surprised on Saturday to see an entertaining fight from him and I am actually kinda excited to see his next fight. Plus if you get the chance to watch his post fight interview its absolutely hilarious. I think Tim gets a really hard rap cause he is just himself and doesnt try to be anyone else which I think is pretty comendable.

Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.

LOL Heath Herring? you think that makes him a better heavyweight? who hasn’t beat Herring lately? He’s beaten people that are getting killed in the UFC woohoo. who has he fought lately? a guy in his first pro fight and a middleweight. fedor has his record because he picks and chooses his opponents in order to keep his record in tact,

Ill go out on a limb and say that Herring would beat Couture…Randy wouldnt be able to muscle him around and Heath is a bull.

15-8 folks…thats not even 66.6% win percentage. WTF??? Randy is overrated.

Im with Fedor and Randy on this one. The UFC has ridiculous contracts that basically allows them to own fighters. Randy had a contract that was for 4 fights, or 18 months (whicever comes first). He has every intention of honoring that contract, (the 18 month part). The fact that the UFC put clauses in contracts that say if a fighter becomes champion then their contract can be extended indefinitely is not reasonable. To also say that if a fighter retires with fights left on their contract that they may never fight anywhere else is also ridiculous. You cannot own a person for life, contracts have to be finite somehow. Infact the only reason why the UFC still recognizes Randy as the champ is so they can keep him from fighting in M1. Randy left the heavyweight belt, which he has the right to do, so his contract will expire. Randy will win this if it goes to court.

How about have this fight as a glorified exhibition match. The UFC can pawn this off as a joke, but really giving the mma fans a gift.

Have you seen Cro Cop? There’s no way he could get down to 205 unless he was hiding a kid in those little bike shorts.

He fights around 225. He could easily lose 10 pounds and cut 10 for a fight…randy used to.

Fedor#1 and Dana knows Fedor is a number #1 guy!

Dana White has served the UFC well, but if the Fertita Brothers, and the UFC really care about the sport of MMA, and the UFC as a business then they need to thank Dana White for his services, and sever ties with this childish man boy (Dana White).

I still love that Randy complained that the UFC was not able to sign Fedor because that was “the only fight that made sense”. What did Randy just assume that Fedor would be in the UFC within 1 year of him signing his 4 count ’em 4 fight contract? Who did he think he would fight. A-hole!

It’s also great that Randy complained that the UFC was not able to sign Fedor and complained that they offered him too much money.

Which is it Randy? Tried too hard or not hard enough? I know, it’s both.

Randy, step up and fight Nog. It’s the only fight that makes sense. It’s the only fight that makes sense. It’s the only fight that makes sense. It’s the only fight that makes sense.

Unless you’re not the man we thought you were.

Do it!

Now!

Ah hello dana………..its the biggest heavyweight fights ever calling………are you gona make them happen cause shit load of people want them to happen, GET YOU HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS

Im with Fedor and Randy on this one. The UFC has ridiculous contracts that basically allows them to own fighters. Randy had a contract that was for 4 fights, or 18 months (whicever comes first). He has every intention of honoring that contract, (the 18 month part). The fact that the UFC put clauses in contracts that say if a fighter becomes champion then their contract can be extended indefinitely is not reasonable. To also say that if a fighter retires with fights left on their contract that they may never fight anywhere else is also ridiculous. You cannot own a person for life, contracts have to be finite somehow. Infact the only reason why the UFC still recognizes Randy as the champ is so they can keep him from fighting in M1. Randy left the heavyweight belt, which he has the right to do, so his contract will expire. Randy will win this if it goes to court.

are you a lawyer? have you seen a UFC contract? do you actually have any clue what you are talking about?

from a business stand point, they are doing the right thing. lets say they let fedor have an open contract. he wins the heavyweight title and and has a fight lined up in 6 months. 3 months later he gets injured badly, possibly permanently. then not only is the UFC hurting because they have to cancel a main event, but they are also out all the money they spent on buiding the fighter up, giving the fighter publicity and advertising the card. as an owner they are going to want to protect their investment, and that is what the fighters are, an investment.

work in the real world. if you are working in a professional job (not taco bell) those sorts of things are common. at my job i’m not allowed to work in the same field for someone else.

15-8 folks…thats not even 66.6% win percentage. WTF??? Randy is overrated.

I agree to an extent… he is deffo over-rated from a record perspective but he is the master Underdog, and that’s why we all…you lot included, loved captain America..plus regardless of his behaviour of late, he was considered the greatest Ambassador for MMA… Does one dispute with Dana change all that??? I hope no or else MMA has some seriously fickle fans… I still like Randy… I would just love for him to say, Fedor aint shit, fighting in M1 proves that…So i will take on a real challenger in NOG!!! Get NOG Vs Randy!! I garauntee the more that is talked about the more likely it will be to happen…

Some of your guys are completely insane. People care about the Fedor/Randy fight a hell of a lot more than Randy/Nog. Nog is an excellent fighter but Fedor/Randy has been brewing for far too long for anything else to surpass it. Damn Right is right!!! Fedor threw down the gauntlet. I like it!

Randy needs to grow some balls and fight Nogueira, especially now that Nog finished the man that Couture decisioned for his title. Beating Gabriel Gonzaga does not make you #2 in the world, Randy. Nog has that position, and I think it’s disrespectful that Randy thinks he should get to fight the #1 only. He’s wasting all this time sitting on his ass, why not stay in shape waiting for Fedor by beating Nogueira and proving you actually deserve the Fedor fight. I know everyone’s on been on the Randwagon for a while now, but I think he’s a coward and I don’t think he deserves the Fedor fight until he can beat Nogueira, or at least Josh Barnett. Randy’s not top three.

Fedor’s exasperated because it’s finally sunk in that there’s no one for him to fight except cans.

He’s realized that his legacy will be tarnished.

And, most importantly, he’s realized that the civil liability that Randy will assume to fight him is greater than whatever he stands to make from the fight, hence it won’t happen.

This kind of desperate comment sounds like the kind of reverse psychology that a third grader would use. Pathetic.

Herring was up and coming when Fedor fought him and nobody really knew who Fedor was at the time. Cro Cop was in his prime , so was Coleman.

Please watch MMA before 2006 before commenting again, thanks.

Incidentally, Fedor shouldn’t cite any of his recent fights as evidence of his character. It doesn’t help his case.

Its a shame theres so a lot of hate towards Fedor on here, IMO until anyone beats Fedor, he will remain number 1, if that means a fighter from the ufc has to chase him in order to get a fight – so be it, Fedor definately aint no ones bitch, hes beat 2 r 3 ufc champions and has that crazy winning streak.

utaptout, I need to get you the video showing cro cops weight cutting stuff. It’s mad crazy. I forget what weight he walks around at, though I think Mania posted it at some point. I’m of course not saying he couldn’t ever cut down to 205. I was really just cutting my little biking shorts joke.

Actually, I did in fact say there was no way he could cut down to 205. My bad. I was blinded by my need for cheesy comedy.

utaptout, I need to get you the video showing cro cops weight cutting stuff. It’s mad crazy. I forget what weight he walks around at, though I think Mania posted it at some point. I’m of course not saying he couldn’t ever cut down to 205. I was really just cutting my little biking shorts joke.

Why did Cro-Cop cut anything? He’s never fought below HW.

i think dana has to work this bullshit out with randy and set up a fight with fedor or there will be a fake ufc heavyweight champion in my eyes

Damn right. Dana needs to allow this. I’m not a Fedor nuthugger, more of a Randy fan actually. But Fedor has already proved himself time and time again. UFC contracts are too crappy, everyone knows that, he didnt go for it. I like how Fedor did this, very nice.

not to mention he destroyed antonio for the pride hw belt already…this would be an awesome fight no doubt a classic

The UFC needs to pay their fighters more. AND be less uptight about letting their fighters CROSS-PROMOTE!

Dana White seems to be more of an A-Hole as these last couple of months have past by…

Fedor to Dana..

“In the future I wouldn’t want to hear those statements in my address ever again and I won’t tolerate that.”

Wow… I’m sure Dana White is shaking under his bed!!!! What are you gona do Fedor? Please Fedor, shut up and do not talk again.

Get stuffed you stupid wanky keyboard warrior. I dare you to go and say that too his face if you ever see him (in russian of course) I DARE YOU

15-8 folks…thats not even 66.6% win percentage. WTF??? Randy is overrated.

Thats because he only ever fought THE BEST OF THE BEST, and he started out as a pure wrestler in his early days, so he was getting submitted and whatnot.

Get stuffed you stupid wanky keyboard warrior. I dare you to go and say that too his face if you ever see him (in russian of course) I DARE YOU

lol whats he gonna do? hit me? i could use the money.

I just love Fedor.He’s very classy and with no doubt THE BEST MMA FIGHTER EVER.Who cares about bussines men like Dana that promote themselves like MMA lovers, but they are actually big time BOSSES.I know one thing[actually couple of them]…Dana is the main reason that Fedor vs Couture didn’t happen.Dana lets Andrei Arlovski[one of the most thrilling fighters] go and keeps Tim Sylvia stay and Randy [UFC’s most popular fighter]leaves the organization for a reason[and that’s not being greedy].For this sport to be legit…we need a new president, or the actual one to grow some common cense.

This is a business as much as a sport. Does the NFL allows its players to go play for whatever team he wants to when he wants to? If the best fighters are in one place and you want to fight the best go to that place. Leave that joke of a promotion you are with or shut up.

As for Dana he should just ignore Fedor. Damn guy is just rotting where he is. Let him stay there and everyone will forget how good he was in pride. If he continues to fight jokes he will become one.

No one could say it better…..SO TRUE CASE CLOSE

HAHAHA, why would fedor even bring that up? That was just a circus act.

are you a lawyer? have you seen a UFC contract? do you actually have any clue what you are talking about?

from a business stand point, they are doing the right thing. lets say they let fedor have an open contract. he wins the heavyweight title and and has a fight lined up in 6 months. 3 months later he gets injured badly, possibly permanently. then not only is the UFC hurting because they have to cancel a main event, but they are also out all the money they spent on buiding the fighter up, giving the fighter publicity and advertising the card. as an owner they are going to want to protect their investment, and that is what the fighters are, an investment.

work in the real world. if you are working in a professional job (not taco bell) those sorts of things are common. at my job i’m not allowed to work in the same field for someone else.

yep…i agree…we can all piss and cry about this…but it is what it is…

I used to like Randy but I went to the mma convention in anaheim and he is just a dick. He sat there behind a table ignoring fans and wouldnt sign or let pictures be taken of him. The dude is believing his own hype it was realy sad. So personally I hope he the next check he cashes is his Social Security Check. I have seen firsthand that the dude is not how he portrays himself on TV. The guy got his ass beat by chuck twice and knew he would never beat him so he retired. He came back only for a title shot to gobble up the belt off old hot dog neck sylvia. And then fights a one kick wonder and pulls this retirement stunt again. Why didnt he just fight the fights on his contract and end the contract early? Because he knows his chances of losing are pretty high in the remaning fights and he wont be able to get the big payday he thinks fedor will bring him. Why cant he just say he is all about himself and money and be honest about it that is at least respectable instead of saying its what the fans want. If he cared about the fans he would fight instead of riding the pine. Why doesnt he beat edward jame olmos and solidify that he is the champ? Sorry I meant big Nog. At this rate Fedor will continue to fight castoffs from ripleys believe it or not in his one man promotion and Randy will continue to be a selfish assclown who pretends to be about the fans but really isnt.

For the record, Fedor never actually said that he “won’t tolerate that.” The original Russian version didn’t include a statement such as this, and it has now been removed from the English translation as well. It was obviously added for effect.

“Numerous times have I read mister White’s statements on Internet concerning myself. In my opinion, allowing yourself to say those things is not a sign of a gentleman or a grown man at all! If he candidly wants to prove himself right then let my fight with Randy happen or let me face the reigning UFC champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. In the future I wouldn’t want to hear those statements in my address ever again and I won’t tolerate that.

We all know Dana is a goof ball and says shit that any other CEO or would ever say with out getting fired.

Dana doesn’t even respect his own mother.

Dana wants to control the MMA world, then at some point it is his responsability to make the sport grow. Thhis would be the biggest fight in the ohistory of mma. If he decided to just make an exception to his no cross promotion rule just once, for this special case…it wouldnt kill the UFC. It will take more then Fedor destroying a UFC legend for M-1 to grow, they still dont have any fighters and if the UFC makes the right offers, every great fighter will still rather fight in there orgainization.

Dana could work with Monte Cox and M-1, Cuban and a bunch of other big money powerful guys to put together an event like no other event ever seen in mma. I bet they could get an event of this magnitude on CBS, NBC or another Big Time station and it will Launch mma to uncharted territory. If Dana works with those people do u know how Huge they can make this event and how much it could help the sport take Giant strides towards mainstream T.V.

I am sure M-1 will be happy to give the UFC the majority of the credit, let it take place in the Octagon under a UFC banner featuring M-1. It will just help the UFC grow. Sure M-1 will get attention, but jhow can Dana actually believe that M-1 will overtake or even hurt Dana’s business? At the end of the day the reality is that the UFC controls the american mma market and regardless of who EliteXc, Strikeforce, M-1 or anyother smaller organizations sign, it would take years to even Phase the UFC’s revenue. Even if M-1 gains big recognition from this event at the end of the Day its the UFC’s game to loose and as long as they take care of business and Dana stops the shady business practice, the UFC will still be the Big Dog in MMA.

The UFC should stop worrying about other companies and them gaining recognition because if they take care of business no matter what other companies do, the UFC will still be the place to be and it will still be extremely profitable. I think a cross promo event of this magnitude will help the UFC more then it will hurt them.

Also, a quick comment on everybody who posts here, at Sherdog, or any other MMA-related site:

Please, drop the macho crap. And strike phrases such as “keyboard warrior” and “nuthugger” from your vocabulary. Grow a brain and start providing original thoughts instead of becoming another meathead MMA fan. Also, pointing out that somebody hasn’t been watching MMA as long as you have isn’t nearly as insulting as you think it is.

Fedor is a great fighter, like his record shows. He is undefeated in judo and subo since he has competed. Fedor has preaty much defeated every top 10 hw in his division, except for randy and tim. And I know that woulnd not be a problem. Just like Tim send today on mmamania(which he is from the ufc) his manager is part of M1. He cant belive Brock got paid more than him or any one else in that matter. Tim next move might be to M1 just like other hw ufc fighters. Gabriels I guess just has alot of feelings toward Dana, get off of him your giving him a rash.

Why did Cro-Cop cut anything? He’s never fought below HW.

you’re right, it’s a conditioning video. My mistake.

How about have this fight as a glorified exhibition match. The UFC can pawn this off as a joke, but really giving the mma fans a gift.

This could work. the UFC marketing machine is fabulous. How many times have we all had a clear oppinion on a fight, and feel so strongly about it for months that it is a lopsided fight that will result in a 1 sided beatdown. Then a few days before the event, Countdown to UFC on spike airs, we watch it, and they sell us the underdog as having a great shot at winning. I catch myself secong guessing myself all the time because of that show. the UFC’s marketing team can spin things to have the public believing anything. I am a marketing major at Drexel University, and I plan on doing my FInal project all on the UFC’s marketing team so I try to keep my eye on it, keep tabs and I find it to be amazing and very deceptive.

They could sell this fight as an exhibition match for sure to the casual public. My point is let the fight happen. Even if Fedor gives Randy the worst beating ever seen in MMA, the UFC isnt going to loose any of its fan base. All fans that follow mma already know who Fedor is and are fully aware of what he is capable. I mean, how many people will actually be shocked if Fedor crushes Randy? very few people, so there are millions of UFC fans who have known for years that there are fighters outside of the UFC, that could crush many of the top dogs in the UFC, but it never stopped them from watching the UFC. The UFC is still a great product and a great show…So it doesnt matter if legendary UFC fighter Couture gets crushed by Fedor, we all expect it and we have all known it would happen for years now…It wont hurt our oppinions of the UFC, if anything as fans we will only appreciate it because we know that the UFC didnt have to do the fight, and they gave it to us anyway.

did he say what i think he said?that his last fight proved somethingWTF!!!his last fight was a joke. it kinda sounded like he was threatening dana

if andre leaves the ufc then i would hope that arlovski/fedor fight happens sometime in the near future.

are you a lawyer? have you seen a UFC contract? do you actually have any clue what you are talking about?

from a business stand point, they are doing the right thing. lets say they let fedor have an open contract. he wins the heavyweight title and and has a fight lined up in 6 months. 3 months later he gets injured badly, possibly permanently. then not only is the UFC hurting because they have to cancel a main event, but they are also out all the money they spent on buiding the fighter up, giving the fighter publicity and advertising the card. as an owner they are going to want to protect their investment, and that is what the fighters are, an investment.

work in the real world. if you are working in a professional job (not taco bell) those sorts of things are common. at my job i’m not allowed to work in the same field for someone else.

Don’t pretend to know me or where I work, I am a professional, and I am well aware that I would not be able to go to a competing company while I was still employed at my current job. If you read my post, I never suggested that Randy should fight Fedor while he was still under UFC contract, Randy intends to wait until his contract is up. At your job you are still allowed to quit and get another job, that is all that Randy is doing. Zuffa and UFC are basically saying he is NEVER allowed to fight anywhere else, which is beyond their power.

Here is an article giving an example of what is in all Zuffa contract with their fighters: http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=9734.

As you can see, the UFC/Zuffa is keeping Randy as the champ so they can extend his contract indefinitely, because according to their bullshit contract, they can keep extending him. Also read the retirement clause, basically says that if you retire from the UFC you can never fight for any other organization. In my opinion, Randy has the right to give up the belt, if he chooses, which is basically what he did when he resigned. It would be no different from stepping down from a promotion. You cannot have a contract that keeps someone working for you for indefinitely.

You people who say that they should make this fight happen for the good of the sport, and forget the business: stop, now. The business, and specifically the UFC, IS the sport. Fighters go where money is. As long as the UFC is healthy, the sport will be healthy, because they’ll be able to afford the best fighters and put on the best fights. Look at boxing as an example where the failure to have a single business looking after itself has destroyed the sport. Alternately, look at the NFL, NBA, and MLB, where the sport and the business are closely tied together.

This could work. the UFC marketing machine is fabulous. How many times have we all had a clear oppinion on a fight, and feel so strongly about it for months that it is a lopsided fight that will result in a 1 sided beatdown. Then a few days before the event, Countdown to UFC on spike airs, we watch it, and they sell us the underdog as having a great shot at winning. I catch myself secong guessing myself all the time because of that show. the UFC’s marketing team can spin things to have the public believing anything. I am a marketing major at Drexel University, and I plan on doing my FInal project all on the UFC’s marketing team so I try to keep my eye on it, keep tabs and I find it to be amazing and very deceptive.

They could sell this fight as an exhibition match for sure to the casual public. My point is let the fight happen. Even if Fedor gives Randy the worst beating ever seen in MMA, the UFC isnt going to loose any of its fan base. All fans that follow mma already know who Fedor is and are fully aware of what he is capable. I mean, how many people will actually be shocked if Fedor crushes Randy? very few people, so there are millions of UFC fans who have known for years that there are fighters outside of the UFC, that could crush many of the top dogs in the UFC, but it never stopped them from watching the UFC. The UFC is still a great product and a great show…So it doesnt matter if legendary UFC fighter Couture gets crushed by Fedor, we all expect it and we have all known it would happen for years now…It wont hurt our oppinions of the UFC, if anything as fans we will only appreciate it because we know that the UFC didnt have to do the fight, and they gave it to us anyway.

And if Fedor beats Randy…that just gives M1 promotions that much more clout. Sorry buddy, but, Dana White didn’t buy out Pride (his major competition) to help an upstart competition like M1 get some TV time. If Fedor wins, M1 builds credibility. Then, they build a fan base. Then, they start taking away big name talent from the UFC.

I want this fight to happen as much as everyone else. But, it looks like it will only go down if its 100% promoted by one or the other organization.

I’m tired of hearing about people griping about contracts that they themselves signed. The contract is useless without a signature. If the contract sucked, then don’t sign it. If Randy wanted to stick it to the UFC, he’d finish his contract so that he could go fight for another organization and promote it. That would be a huge blow to the UFC. As it is, he’s just a dude who decided not to finish his contract. This is Randy’s decision not to fight Fedor. The UFC is only sticking with it’s proven system.

The UFC will change when competition and the market forces them to. Until then it’s Randy’s choice. Take the fights you’ve signed, be done with your contract, and then go fight for someone else.

plus, eventually fighter’s contracts are going to run out and they’ll be free to fight for whomever. Sylvia’s looking at M1, and I’m sure he’s not the only big namer looking at it. Fedor unplugged the gates. I hope fighters follow suit. It’ll force the UFC to change their ways.

Maybe Randy and Dana should come to a compromise on a contract: Randy will agree to fight Nogueira and then regardless of the outcome, he will officially retire after that fight…he can announce it in the center of the Octagon. He could leave with dignity In return Dana voids the last fight on his contract and lets Randy go fight Fedor, or even better, cross promotes the fight with M-1, they can market it as an exhibition match as a farewell gift to Randy.

the only reason why the NFL, NBA and MLB exists as it does today though is because of the backing of congress givin them anti-trust immunity

I agree with Fedor. All that talk does not good and makes Dana looks like a cry baby. Everyone knows that the contracts suck and if Dana was smart he would stop hoarding the cash and make fighters WANT to come to the ufc. Until then, I hope that a Randy/Fedor fight happens outside the UFC so Dana will allow fights to happen. Interleague MMA People!!!

I guess there’s a good chance Tim Sylvia could go to m-1 also, but who cares?

I don’t want Randy to leave the UFC!

Fedor is a joke. Next he’ll be fighting guys in lion and gorilla costumes at sideshows to prove how strong he is.

“I’m No.1! Watch me armbar a lion and then I’ll armbar a bear! I’m the best ever!”

Dana White really knows how to make the UFC a joke doesn’t he? Anway…

Randy needs to grow some balls and fight Nogueira, especially now that Nog finished the man that Couture decisioned for his title. Beating Gabriel Gonzaga does not make you #2 in the world, Randy. Nog has that position, and I think it’s disrespectful that Randy thinks he should get to fight the #1 only. He’s wasting all this time sitting on his ass, why not stay in shape waiting for Fedor by beating Nogueira and proving you actually deserve the Fedor fight. I know everyone’s on been on the Randwagon for a while now, but I think he’s a coward and I don’t think he deserves the Fedor fight until he can beat Nogueira, or at least Josh Barnett. Randy’s not top three.

I’m tired of hearing about people griping about contracts that they themselves signed. The contract is useless without a signature. If the contract sucked, then don’t sign it. If Randy wanted to stick it to the UFC, he’d finish his contract so that he could go fight for another organization and promote it. That would be a huge blow to the UFC. As it is, he’s just a dude who decided not to finish his contract. This is Randy’s decision not to fight Fedor. The UFC is only sticking with it’s proven system.

The UFC will change when competition and the market forces them to. Until then it’s Randy’s choice. Take the fights you’ve signed, be done with your contract, and then go fight for someone else.

Again, the contract was for 4 fights or 18 months from the signing date, that is, whichever one comes first. Randy intends to finish his contract, he will not compete in M1 until his UFC contract expires. Randy is no longer the HW champion (he stepped down), and he has said numerous times he is not retiring, the UFC is saying that he is the champ and he is retiring in order to use their indefinite contract extension clauses to keep him from fighting in M1. The UFC’s case to extend his contract indefinitely is bull, Randy has every right to allow his contract to expire and go fight somewhere else.

Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.

Yeah, by your logic, since ALL those guys that you listed are washed up – that would infer that Fedor is washed up as well. Thanks for proving our point for us! rofl

Hey………..all u guys r saying this and that, who Fedor last fights were…….I dont think he is as worthy as hes made out to be ither but the fact of the matter is, Fedor is Ranked #1………..which makes him the next biggest fight no matter who it is.SOOOOOOOOOO DANA please I’m begging YOU RANDY vs FEDOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BE CAREFUL FEDOR,
you could be the next
UFC Lawsuit Of The Day!

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Unionize the UFC!

Be careful what you wish for, that wouldnt hurt the UFC only the fans. Look at any union vs company its always the consumer who gets the shaft. Sure the fighters would get paid more but where would that $ come from. Thats right kids our pockets.

if you say his fight with choi was a freak show than so was lesnars yes he had wrestling creds and choi has kickboxing creds and lasted longer than 90seconds with a so so fighter in mir.fedor does not need the ufc with all the best h.w.s leaving other than nog who will leave after his contract is up who do they have.

The idea that the UFC should let Randy out of his contract so he can go fight Fedor is ridiculous. They paid him a huge signing bonus to come out of retirement and fight for the HW championship after having been knocked out in two of his last three LHW fights. Furthermore, he had lost his previous two fights at HW, yet he was granted an immediate title shot against Sylvia. Then after he (surprisingly) wins the belt and defends it once he wants to leave and fight elsewhere without fulfilling his contractual obligations. I just don’t get how he can act like the UFC is the villain in this.

Yeah, by your logic, since ALL those guys that you listed are washed up – that would infer that Fedor is washed up as well. Thanks for proving our point for us! rofl

No, those guys aren’t all washed up. Nog is the new heavyweight champion, Herring is fighting Kongo, Cro Cop is still perhaps the top-rated heavyweight striker, and certainly none of the people that Fedor beat were washed up when he beat them. Fedor beat the best at their best, Thank you for proving you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Too be honest I tinhk Dana knows its gonna happen but this way if he plays it as if it isnt right now hten it just builds up the ifght EVEN MORE and sooner or later he will let it happen and it will be the biggest PPV of all time… thats what I think he’s doing, just being really smart about the whole thing but no one knows it.

Here’s a good idea for the UFC, take the heavyweight champion, let him fight a guy from another company who has beaten your interim champion twice, so that way when Fedor wins he can go back to his company and have bragging rights over all of the top heavyweights in your organization. GOOD IDEA. And split the costs and profits while doing it! GOOD IDEA. Co-promoting a fight will never happen. UFC looking like it has inferior fighters to M1 will never happen. Why would any smart businessman allow this to happen when it is in no way beneficial for their company? And when people cry about what Brock Lesnar is making for his fight, just wait until the PPV numbers are in and you’ll realize that he paid for himself 10 fold. The only reason M1 and Fedor want UFC to “let this fight happen” is because without the UFC, NOBODY WILL CARE or even get to see it….

Fedor has already destroyed Nog twice. I’m sorry, I like and respect Randy but he is overrated. 15-8 is hardly the record of a supreme fighter. Nog and Sylvia both have way better records than him. I hate Sylvia and I wont make excuses for him, but I think he was hurt during his fight with Couture. I don’t think Randy could put Fedor on his back and he sure as hell wont outbox him. This whole situation is ridiculous. I want to see it too but Randy and Fedor is NOT the biggest fight of all time. Its just the only huge matchup thats left in the HW division.

On a side note, will someone please convince CroCop to drop to 205 and fight Chuck. Please?

Great great comment. Fedor Randy isn’t a big fight – It’s only a big fight because Randy is, technically, UFC’s champ. It’s really proof that the UFC matters, a lot.
Don’t forget that Chuck knocked Randy into retirement, and he came back in a different division to face Sylvia.
Aside from a slew of lightweights and a handful of middle/welterweights fighting largely in Asia and a handful more of non-UFC fighters in America (Nick Diaz, maybe, and definitely Jake Shields), and Fedor, a huge portion of the best fighters are in the UFC.

I’d bet on Hong Man Choi, Brock Lesnar, Josh Barnett, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, and, of course, Fedor Emelianenko ALL to beat Randy Couture. The only reason people believe anything Dana says is because they haven’t been following MMA for more than a year and they think that the UFC is the end all, be all. If Fedor is washed up, then Randy is nonexistent. People want to criticize Fedor for his last couple of fights, but hell, he’s doing a lot better than Randy, who’s, well, NOT FIGHTING… how’s that for reasons to question a mixed martial artist! Also, I’d like to see Randy beat a freak like Hong Man, he couldn’t submit Sylvia in five rounds, the first of which he had Sylvia’s back almost the whole time. Fedor would not have trouble submitting Sylvia if he got him on the ground like that. Randy has wrestling, Fedor has everything. I’m tired of these COMPLETE mma novices talking crap about Fedor. I’m new to mixed martial arts, but good god you guys make me feel like I know everything, because comparatively you know nothing.

FEDOR IS THE NUMBER 1 GUY. If anything is washed up it’s the UFC. You got a guy who moved to heavyweight cause he couldn’t compete at light heavy fighting one of the most boring and unimpressive fighters in history, Tim Sylvia. Add a guy who beat Cro Cop simply by securing one takedown, and you have a very hollow competition for the UFC title. Josh Barnett, Nogueira and Fedor. Those are the three we would have been talking about if the UFC wasn’t a joke.

Also, if Fedor is washed up for beating people who are washed up, what does that make Randy, for losing to people who are washed up, some of which you meganewbs would never in a million years have ever heard of? Fedor would beat Randy, but Randy doesn’t even deserve that fight, as I’ve explained in other posts.

I’ll care wherever that fight happens. I don’t care if it’s in the UFC, M-1 or in my neighbors back yard. The fans want to see the fight – make it happen! If you can’t be part of it, don’t be a cockblocker!

I used to like Randy but I went to the mma convention in anaheim and he is just a dick. He sat there behind a table ignoring fans and wouldnt sign or let pictures be taken of him. The dude is believing his own hype it was realy sad. So personally I hope he the next check he cashes is his Social Security Check. I have seen firsthand that the dude is not how he portrays himself on TV. The guy got his ass beat by chuck twice and knew he would never beat him so he retired. He came back only for a title shot to gobble up the belt off old hot dog neck sylvia. And then fights a one kick wonder and pulls this retirement stunt again. Why didnt he just fight the fights on his contract and end the contract early? Because he knows his chances of losing are pretty high in the remaning fights and he wont be able to get the big payday he thinks fedor will bring him. Why cant he just say he is all about himself and money and be honest about it that is at least respectable instead of saying its what the fans want. If he cared about the fans he would fight instead of riding the pine. Why doesnt he beat edward jame olmos and solidify that he is the champ? Sorry I meant big Nog. At this rate Fedor will continue to fight castoffs from ripleys believe it or not in his one man promotion and Randy will continue to be a selfish assclown who pretends to be about the fans but really isnt.

Right On! Fedor is coming across as desperate. Fedor is a puppet. The UFC is doing the right thing.

Great great comment. Fedor Randy isn’t a big fight – It’s only a big fight because Randy is, technically, UFC’s champ. It’s really proof that the UFC matters, a lot.
Don’t forget that Chuck knocked Randy into retirement, and he came back in a different division to face Sylvia.
Aside from a slew of lightweights and a handful of middle/welterweights fighting largely in Asia and a handful more of non-UFC fighters in America (Nick Diaz, maybe, and definitely Jake Shields), and Fedor, a huge portion of the best fighters are in the UFC.

most of the top h.w. are not in the ufc and the few they have appear to be leaving

No, those guys aren’t all washed up. Nog is the new heavyweight champion, Herring is fighting Kongo, Cro Cop is still perhaps the top-rated heavyweight striker, and certainly none of the people that Fedor beat were washed up when he beat them. Fedor beat the best at their best, Thank you for proving you don’t know what you’re talking about.

You’re right with the exception of Mark Coleman. When he fought Fedor the first time he was 39 and certainly not in his prime. I don’t think that Fedor is overrated, but to go down as the best ever he has to continue to fight top competition. If he had signed with the UFC he could have been doing that for the past year. He hasn’t fought a top fighter in their prime since beating Cro Cop 2.5 years ago.

im not a fedor fan but he spoke like a champ if couture thinks by beating tim and gonzaga and believes that he already beat the best he must be a dumbass the best right know are
1.fedor
2nog
3.andrey arwlosky
4.werdum

until u beat those guys randy then u can retire

dana white just got fucking OWNED

Without a doubt Dana / Zuffa have done alot to promote / advance MMA in North America and currently expanding… yet at the same time they have allegedly been involved in shady business practices including facilitating stringent and unfair contracts…

Respect to Randy, Fedor, and all others for demanding fair treatment (this doesn’t mean I wouldn’t prefer to see them in the UFC but apparently the world isn’t perfect). I believe it was right after the initial Couture fallout controversy manifested that Dana decided to raise all fighters pay and at the same time restructure the bonus payouts. And I do not know what the former Pride stars where getting paid while in Pride but it must have been decent for the rates at which they are now being compensated in the UFC.

I know it wouldn’t be a good business deal for Dana to allow Randy to fight Fedor in a co-promoted event where in the end the startup org M-1 would have the most to gain, but, if he won’t let the fight happen (he has stated that he is a fan first) he should stop all of his trash talking. And if the cards aren’t right don’t play them… which is why fighters aren’t signing with UFC…

I am the winner… Fedor/Randy in the UFC will never happen. Besides I’d rather see Randy fight Nog to see who the real UFC champion is. Nog impressed the hell out of me agaisn’t big goofy Tim. After Randy loses to Nog the Fedor fight won’t matter.

Randy would beat the shit out of Nog, and there is no way in hell Randy will ever get submitted unless against Fedor, you’re nuts!!! Follow up on the UFC!!!!

Screw Fedor..You cant have it both ways..Big Salary with M-1 and fight the best fighters in the world (UFC)…Business is Business..Want to fight the best, then sign with the best..

I remember when zuffa first got pride. I thought we were gonna see some monster fights. Dana didnt get his hands on two of Prides champions from pride in Fedor and Gomi. I thought that was the reason the ufc bought pride. To unify the belts and give us some chill ass fights. The buy obviously was not a waste but I am sort of dissapointed.

Dana didnt get his hands on two of Prides champions from pride in Fedor and Gomi.

I should probably proof read first!!?? My bad.

Gabriel must work for Dana or actually be Dana?

Dana White’s comments on both Randy and/or Fedor are definitely something I doubt he’d have the stones to say in person, behind a locked door, with either of them.

Dana doin fans dirty

This hints of desperation on Fedor’s part. Fedor knows he is only hurting his status as the best heavyweight in the world while fighting weak opponents. He had his chance to sign with the UFC, and for whatever reasons, he didn’t. Now he says he wants to fight the UFC’s best??? Can’t have your cake and eat it too Fedor. I have tons of respect for Fedor, but he is as much to blame for this fight not happening as Dana is.

i wonder what dana will say back
O_O

Nice. keep proving to people that you only fight cans by picking on Dana.

Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.

Nope, he beat CC in a DECISION, Gonzaga is the one who DESTROYED CC and Randy beat GG, so maybe ,just maybe Randy could hang with Fedor , don’t you THINK!

Maybe Randy and Dana should come to a compromise on a contract: Randy will agree to fight Nogueira and then regardless of the outcome, he will officially retire after that fight…he can announce it in the center of the Octagon. He could leave with dignity In return Dana voids the last fight on his contract and lets Randy go fight Fedor, or even better, cross promotes the fight with M-1, they can market it as an exhibition match as a farewell gift to Randy.

This is an exellent idea,although Randy would have to win to keep the hype up for the Fedor fight. The problem is we are dealing with 3 very stubborn guys, Dana, Randy and Fedor. To come to any sort of an agreement, one guy has to bend a little first and I don’t see anyone of these 3 giving in.

Nice. keep proving to people that you only fight cans by picking on Dana.

lol. Fedor = Can Crusher

you cant run from competition and then complain when people call you out on it.

you cant run from competition and then complain when people call you out on it.

he is not running he will fight anyone tell dana to prove him wrong.

please someone name a h.w. with the ufc that stands a chance against him since most of you think the ufc H.W

GG , AA , Tim and Vera. All of these guys could hang with him and all could very well beat him. Fedor couldn’t handle the beating Nog took from Tim without taking a nap (nor anyone else, Nog isn’t human). GG showed Fedor how to FINISH CC. AA’s standup and power could keep him on his feet ,where Fedor is NO match. Vera is so well rounded and he is VERY good at not taking punishment(Tim couldn’t hurt him with a broken hand). I not saying these guys will all beat Fedor, I’m just saying, they will all give him a fight that could go either way. Randy’s style stands a very good chance.

So much drama and hype for a fight that most likely won’t even happen.

Nope, he beat CC in a DECISION, Gonzaga is the one who DESTROYED CC and Randy beat GG, so maybe ,just maybe Randy could hang with Fedor , don’t you THINK!

Styles make fights. Just because on fighter destroyed one guy doesnt mean hes better then another guy who went the distance with the same guy.

I don’t see how anyone can possibly blame Dana for not wanting to do cross-promos with inferior leagues, thereby giving them legitimacy. That’s a terrible business decision.

Dana did try to throw tons of money at Fedor to get him to sign with the UFC, so again, you can’t blame Dana for not trying (he also offered him an instant title shot). If anything, Dana tried so hard (with so much money), that it insulted some of his currently signed fighters (Couture, Arlovski and now Ortiz—big surprise) who are now leaving because of it.

The only way you can fault Dana, IMO, is with the whole “binding contracts” thing, where Fedor would have to give up fighting in Russian Sambo tournys if he wanted to sign with the UFC. if you want to fault Dana for that, then fine. but what else is the guy supposed to do?

Is it really 100 percent Dana’s fault? Does Fedor and his management not deserve at least part of the blame for wanting the moon on a silver platter? I understand that Fedor is the world’s best MMA fighter, but at the end of the day, the UFC has a business to run, and they already risked pissing off their existing talent pool by offering Fedor the moon. The moon plus a b.j. wouldn’t have really been the best business decision, but that’s what Fedor and his managers were asking for.

I couldnt have said it better…this is exaclty what all this bullshit with Randy, Fedor, UFC & Dana boils down to

I couldnt have said it better…this is exaclty what all this bullshit with Randy, Fedor, UFC & Dana boils down to

Fully agree.

The comments about randys fight record are really amusing , because records dont mean anything. The man is a 6 time UFC champion. When dana was asked one word to describe randy He was right on when he said LEGENDARY.

Its really hard to believe there are so many Fedor & Randy haters.

am I the only one who feels Fedors last win was very impressive, just the sheer size difference of the two was incredible. There is not one mma fighter on planet earth that can beat fedor including randy and I believe every knowledgeable mma fan knows this deep down including those who are not fedor fans.

The only way Fedor would lose to any HW in the UFC would be due to a cut…end of story

Yeah… sure…. Shogun too. I have no respect for Fedor until I see him fighting 3 UFC fighters.

Weren’t you the same who worshiped Randy as a god and kicked him to the curb the moment he resigned?

Fedor needs to sit down, silly man.

’I’m signed with M-1 Global and this promotion is ready to organize such fights under our banner or in co-promoted events’

 Haven’t your handlers learned/taught you anything? Daner doesn’t like to share. Never has, and never will. It’s in the UFC house or nothing.

Fedor is clearly the best in the world. All of you who think otherwise need a head check. Dana needs to realise, he does not have world champions, he simply has, UFC champions.

Swallow you ego Dana and match up the best fighters in the world. Not hand pick fights for ‘WWE like’ entertainment purposes.

Swallow you ego Dana and match up the best fighters in the world. Not hand pick fights for "WWE like’ entertainment purposes.

Love that money!!!

BE CAREFUL FEDOR,
you could be the next
UFC Lawsuit Of The Day!

-——

Dear Fedor,

All Dana cares about is money.

Dana has disrespected dozens of it’s own fighters and even sued legendary Randy Couture. He certainly doesn’t care what you have to say – - unless you are willing to be his whore – and give him all your blood, sweat and years of cash generating talent.

Unionize the UFC!

LOL!!!!!!!! Hilarious! I love it!!

Stay there, who cares about Fedor.

lol everyone!

GG , AA , Tim and Vera. All of these guys could hang with him and all could very well beat him. Fedor couldn’t handle the beating Nog took from Tim without taking a nap (nor anyone else, Nog isn’t human). GG showed Fedor how to FINISH CC. AA’s standup and power could keep him on his feet ,where Fedor is NO match. Vera is so well rounded and he is VERY good at not taking punishment(Tim couldn’t hurt him with a broken hand). I not saying these guys will all beat Fedor, I’m just saying, they will all give him a fight that could go either way. Randy’s style stands a very good chance.

who ever say’s Randy is the best in the world is basiclly saying that the Iceman is the best. Who ever randy fights – he will everytime get KTFO! by the iceman. Fedor is on another level – i dont know why some of you dont get it – your letting dana pollute you with politics

I’m waiting for dana’s response. i hope it mentions bitches in a beauty salon.

If Fedor was so worried about fights that fans want to see… he should have signed with the ufc. His approach to get Dana White to bend on the rules of the ufc was horrible… you don’t call out Dana White… Ufc needs Fedor like they need a root canal… He missed his shot…now he will fade out along with M-1… 5 years from now.. no one will remember either… occasionally on re runs of Pride..and we’ll say “remember the good old days”

The comments about randys fight record are really amusing , because records dont mean anything. The man is a 6 time UFC champion. When dana was asked one word to describe randy He was right on when he said LEGENDARY.

Its really hard to believe there are so many Fedor & Randy haters.

am I the only one who feels Fedors last win was very impressive, just the sheer size difference of the two was incredible. There is not one mma fighter on planet earth that can beat fedor including randy and I believe every knowledgeable mma fan knows this deep down including those who are not fedor fans.

Randy won the UFC title from Maurice Smith and was stripped because he couldn’t come to terms with the UFC for a contract. SOUND FAMILIAR?
He came back and was granted an immediate title shot against Kevin Randleman and won the title. While fighing for RINGS as UFC champion he lost to Valentijn Overeem by getting choked out. He came back to UFC and defended the belt twice against Pedro Rizzo in the same year before getting beaten by Josh Barnett for the title. Barnett was stripped and Couture immediately got ANOTHER title shot given to him, this time against Ricco Rodriguez, LOSING AGAIN. Then he drops in weight to IMMEDIATELY GET YET ANOTHER TITLE SHOT, against Chuck Liddell where he wins the interim light heavyweight title. Fights Tito Ortiz to unify the light heavyweight title. Loses title in controvercial ref stoppage to Vitor Belfort, but gets an immediate rematch and wins the belt back. Then loses title to Chuck Liddel in rematch. Beats MIKE VAN ARSDALE by submission (one of only 2 submission victories in his career, and the only non title match he fought in the UFC since 2000) Lost again to Chuck Liddel in their 3rd fight (where he got yet ANOTHER title shot given to him, although he had only beaten VanArsdale, a sure top contender) Randy then RETIRES. Only to move back up to heavyweight to get ANOTHER IMMEDIATE TITLE SHOT against Tim Sylvia. Then Defeats Gabriel Gonzaga and promptly WALKS AWAY WITH THE TITLE AGAIN.
  The guy has been given title shot after undeserved title shot again and again. Twice he has walked away with the belt while champion because he was unhappy with the contract HE SIGNED. The guy has only fought 1 non title fight in 8 years, and he acts like the UFC hasn’t given him preferential treatment? I am sick of people defending Randy Couture as the greatest of all time when it’s obvious he is not. Sure, he has fought some great fights and top fighters, and there is no doubt he is a legend, but he has been treated like no other fighter in UFC history and I for one can’t wait for this mess to be over so I don’t have to hear any more about Randy Couture.
  And to paint FEDOR like he cannot be beaten by anyone ever is insane. MMA is a sport where ANYONE can be beaten. I’m sick of the Randy and Fedor Hyperbole Machine. WHEN WILL IT END?

No, those guys aren’t all washed up. Nog is the new heavyweight champion, Herring is fighting Kongo, Cro Cop is still perhaps the top-rated heavyweight striker, and certainly none of the people that Fedor beat were washed up when he beat them. Fedor beat the best at their best, Thank you for proving you don’t know what you’re talking about.

1st off, who said that those fighters are washed up? If they are washed up, they werent washed up 2-3 years ago when Fedor fought them. I dont get how people can not love this guy. Randy has a lot to prove still. When he fought Gonzaga, all u bandwagon fans were on Gonzaga’s sack, I always maintained that Gonzaga didnt even deserve to fight Randy….and I was proven right.

Randy has never beaten Nogueira, Fedor or even Barnett. He needs to beat at least 1 of these fighters, and honestly I dont think he can. too be completely honest, I think Nog, Fedor, and Barnett could beat any fighter in the UFC’s heavyweight division.

That new organization. the Yamma fight signed a match between
Oleg Taktaorov vs. Don Frye for April 11 tournament.

Get stuffed you stupid wanky keyboard warrior. I dare you to go and say that too his face if you ever see him (in russian of course) I DARE YOU

Guys this letter was never written to the ufc or dana white,i dont like dana either but the truth has to be told so everyone who is jocking this post calm down and get control of yourself,randys contract is up in july.M1 wil sign him and the fight will happen late this year like new years eve late,so untill then just relax.

Fedor is F@#$% FARSE like it was Royce Gracie. Both overrated.

New times my friend. Fedor lost the train. He talks from Russia. He should shut up and Talk in the octagon.

LoL this needs to happen listen up dana, he’s begging to fight your boys what are you afraid of?

Randy won the UFC title from Maurice Smith and was stripped because he couldn’t come to terms with the UFC for a contract. SOUND FAMILIAR?
He came back and was granted an immediate title shot against Kevin Randleman and won the title. While fighing for RINGS as UFC champion he lost to Valentijn Overeem by getting choked out. He came back to UFC and defended the belt twice against Pedro Rizzo in the same year before getting beaten by Josh Barnett for the title. Barnett was stripped and Couture immediately got ANOTHER title shot given to him, this time against Ricco Rodriguez, LOSING AGAIN. Then he drops in weight to IMMEDIATELY GET YET ANOTHER TITLE SHOT, against Chuck Liddell where he wins the interim light heavyweight title. Fights Tito Ortiz to unify the light heavyweight title. Loses title in controvercial ref stoppage to Vitor Belfort, but gets an immediate rematch and wins the belt back. Then loses title to Chuck Liddel in rematch. Beats MIKE VAN ARSDALE by submission (one of only 2 submission victories in his career, and the only non title match he fought in the UFC since 2000) Lost again to Chuck Liddel in their 3rd fight (where he got yet ANOTHER title shot given to him, although he had only beaten VanArsdale, a sure top contender) Randy then RETIRES. Only to move back up to heavyweight to get ANOTHER IMMEDIATE TITLE SHOT against Tim Sylvia. Then Defeats Gabriel Gonzaga and promptly WALKS AWAY WITH THE TITLE AGAIN.
The guy has been given title shot after undeserved title shot again and again. Twice he has walked away with the belt while champion because he was unhappy with the contract HE SIGNED. The guy has only fought 1 non title fight in 8 years, and he acts like the UFC hasn’t given him preferential treatment? I am sick of people defending Randy Couture as the greatest of all time when it’s obvious he is not. Sure, he has fought some great fights and top fighters, and there is no doubt he is a legend, but he has been treated like no other fighter in UFC history and I for one can’t wait for this mess to be over so I don’t have to hear any more about Randy Couture.
And to paint FEDOR like he cannot be beaten by anyone ever is insane. MMA is a sport where ANYONE can be beaten. I’m sick of the Randy and Fedor Hyperbole Machine. WHEN WILL IT END?

truth!

I don’t see why everyone’s mad at Fedor. He has the right to sign where he feels he has control and earning top money. I agree he hasn’t fought tough guys lately. As for Dana, he is a shit talker. I guarantee if Fedor signs tomorrow, Dana would be saying this guy is the greatest not having lost in years. Dana says anything that makes “his” guys seem so great. Back when Chuck lost to Rampage at Pride, you didn’t hear Dana say they have a better light heavyweight group than us because our best can’t even get to their best.

Guys this letter was never written to the ufc or dana white,i dont like dana either but the truth has to be told so everyone who is jocking this post calm down and get control of yourself,randys contract is up in july.M1 wil sign him and the fight will happen late this year like new years eve late,so untill then just relax.

There’s not a chance that the Fertitta’s lawyers will allow Couture to sign with another organization in July. To think otherwise is naive. The lawsuit that they are just about to unleash on Couture is massive and quite far reaching in breadth and involves other people besides Couture himself. This is the Fertitta’s we’re talking about. They haven’t got to where they are (owning a lot of casinos) by being “choirboys”. Furthermore, in six months time no one (except hardcore junkies) would care anyways. Fedor is not marketable period…end of story.

Like I’ve said before on here simple solution Has Cro Cop Taught Dana Nothing? If you want fedor sign Alexsander let Couture beat the hell out of him and Fedor will sign to wipe his brothers a$$ just like he did against cro cop honestly though who cares at this point fedor has fought a whos who list of oddities lately hell who is next Fedor Vs. Kimbo or how about Fedor Vs. Lesnar come on people I say bring him in give him some mid level fight say Arlovski, O’brien, Kongo, Gonzaga and 1 of two things happens dana declares him the man or someone pulls a leg kick out of there ass and Fedor is another classic case of over rated pride fighters coming in losing to sub par competition I think personally Fedor vs. Timmay would be amusing i’d love to see timmay destroyed once and for all well wait a minute fedor loves to fight freak show and I see Ricco Rodriguez will be off celebrity rehab soon so give Fedor him ha ha ha Fedor is a dumb ass for not signing in the first place come on with the fedor nut huggers talking about hes the best ever….

if fighters are getting more money it isn’t coming from the UFC. If you find the average payday for fighters excluding Lesnar, Mir, Sylvia and Nogueiras’ salaries, fighters on the last PPV made an average of $19,000. Compare that to any other sport other than say curling, lawnbowling, darts and horseshoes, and i’d have to say that they are pretty underpaid for what they do for a living. The “superstars” get a nice chunk of money but compared to boxing they get nothing.

Comparing MMA to other sports is foolish. If one compares what these athletes make to other athletes from other sports(assuming you mean baseball, football, basketball…) you will find these guys are being paid very fairly, especially by the UFC. That is not to say I hope they hopefully will continue to get bigger paydays, but lesser known fighters needs to establish themselves and earn, YES EARN, their big salaries.

Case in point, look at league minimum salaries in the MLB for the guy who is a sub off the bench comes in the 9th inning and has 400 fewer ABs in a season to an even moderately marquee name. $300,000 to $10 million is an even greater difference. Same with a special teams player in the NFL vs. a Pro-bowler. Like Josh Barnett said, “The guys getting paid $3000 didn’t sell $3000 worth of tickets.”

I know this seems to be dragging away from the topic, but promotions still have a business to run and ZUFFA I think is pretty fair. Fedor was offered a pretty payday and wouldn’t take it. He needs to quit hiding.

(Sorry for the book.)

Just had a great idea. Instead of this same mindless back-and-forthing with Randy, Dana should let the Iceman go over and fight Fedor. Dana has shown he will let his boy Chuck loose from the Zuffa stables. Have Liddell go take on Fedor.

Lot of sarcasm here but DW has shown he will allow certain things for his favorites. That far-fetched?? It would be fun and the size diffence wouldn’t be huge. Dream match-ups!

Randy won the UFC title from Maurice Smith and was stripped because he couldn’t come to terms with the UFC for a contract. SOUND FAMILIAR?
He came back and was granted an immediate title shot against Kevin Randleman and won the title. While fighing for RINGS as UFC champion he lost to Valentijn Overeem by getting choked out. He came back to UFC and defended the belt twice against Pedro Rizzo in the same year before getting beaten by Josh Barnett for the title. Barnett was stripped and Couture immediately got ANOTHER title shot given to him, this time against Ricco Rodriguez, LOSING AGAIN. Then he drops in weight to IMMEDIATELY GET YET ANOTHER TITLE SHOT, against Chuck Liddell where he wins the interim light heavyweight title. Fights Tito Ortiz to unify the light heavyweight title. Loses title in controvercial ref stoppage to Vitor Belfort, but gets an immediate rematch and wins the belt back. Then loses title to Chuck Liddel in rematch. Beats MIKE VAN ARSDALE by submission (one of only 2 submission victories in his career, and the only non title match he fought in the UFC since 2000) Lost again to Chuck Liddel in their 3rd fight (where he got yet ANOTHER title shot given to him, although he had only beaten VanArsdale, a sure top contender) Randy then RETIRES. Only to move back up to heavyweight to get ANOTHER IMMEDIATE TITLE SHOT against Tim Sylvia. Then Defeats Gabriel Gonzaga and promptly WALKS AWAY WITH THE TITLE AGAIN.
The guy has been given title shot after undeserved title shot again and again. Twice he has walked away with the belt while champion because he was unhappy with the contract HE SIGNED. The guy has only fought 1 non title fight in 8 years, and he acts like the UFC hasn’t given him preferential treatment? I am sick of people defending Randy Couture as the greatest of all time when it’s obvious he is not. Sure, he has fought some great fights and top fighters, and there is no doubt he is a legend, but he has been treated like no other fighter in UFC history and I for one can’t wait for this mess to be over so I don’t have to hear any more about Randy Couture.
And to paint FEDOR like he cannot be beaten by anyone ever is insane. MMA is a sport where ANYONE can be beaten. I’m sick of the Randy and Fedor Hyperbole Machine. WHEN WILL IT END?

Ill give you credit for the indepth knowledge of your post, there was a couple of things you metioned I was not even aware of. The UFC wether pre-zuffa ownership or not gave Randy those title shots because they thought he desereved them otherwise they would have never been given to him.
When Randy was given his oppurtunities he capitalized most times. He almost always was able to step up and win even as the underdog.

I am not saying that Fedor cant be beaten ever, Im saying right now there is no one who can beat him no one. And everyone knows that to this point no one has, other than a doctor stoppage.

Ill give you credit for the indepth knowledge of your post, there was a couple of things you metioned I was not even aware of. The UFC wether pre-zuffa ownership or not gave Randy those title shots because they thought he desereved them otherwise they would have never been given to him.
When Randy was given his oppurtunities he capitalized most times. He almost always was able to step up and win even as the underdog.

I am not saying that Fedor cant be beaten ever, Im saying right now there is no one who can beat him no one. And everyone knows that to this point no one has, other than a doctor stoppage.

You can never fault the fighter for taking any opportunities they are given, but in my opinion, no fighter in the history of MMA has been given the kind of repeated shots that Randy Couture has. I frankly was shocked that he even had to fight VanArsdale before getting yet another shot at Chuck. He lost his last 2 fights at heavyweight and was granted a title shot against Sylvia anyways. He didn’t have to even win a number 1 contender fight. Dana just handed it to him, and he defended the belt once and walked away. Why not give Arlovski a shot? Why not give anyone else a shot? He sure was given a lot of title fights when other fighters had just as much right to them, why not at least defend the belt until his contract was up. (a contract he signed). I am tired of hearing all of these guys bitch about what other people are making. Worry about yourself and if you don’t like it, don’t sign the contract. I’m sorry, but Chuck Liddel and Tito Ortiz and hell, even Brock Lesnar are bigger draws than Randy Couture. He almost got a million dollars of PPV revenue for one of his fights (not even counting his actual fight earnings) and he’s complaining because Chuck gets a little more? SELL MORE PPV’s!
And the only reason nobody RIGHT NOW can beat Fedor is because nobody of note gets to fight him. If he was fighting top contenders instead of nobodies, someone could beat him right now. But until M1 gets some actual talent in the heavyweight division, you’re probably right, nobody will beat him and he’ll just keep padding his undefeated record with fights against fighters that nobody knows.

I’d bet on Hong Man Choi, Brock Lesnar, Josh Barnett, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, and, of course, Fedor Emelianenko ALL to beat Randy Couture. The only reason people believe anything Dana says is because they haven’t been following MMA for more than a year and they think that the UFC is the end all, be all. If Fedor is washed up, then Randy is nonexistent. People want to criticize Fedor for his last couple of fights, but hell, he’s doing a lot better than Randy, who’s, well, NOT FIGHTING… how’s that for reasons to question a mixed martial artist! Also, I’d like to see Randy beat a freak like Hong Man, he couldn’t submit Sylvia in five rounds, the first of which he had Sylvia’s back almost the whole time. Fedor would not have trouble submitting Sylvia if he got him on the ground like that. Randy has wrestling, Fedor has everything. I’m tired of these COMPLETE mma novices talking crap about Fedor. I’m new to mixed martial arts, but good god you guys make me feel like I know everything, because comparatively you know nothing.

FEDOR IS THE NUMBER 1 GUY. If anything is washed up it’s the UFC. You got a guy who moved to heavyweight cause he couldn’t compete at light heavy fighting one of the most boring and unimpressive fighters in history, Tim Sylvia. Add a guy who beat Cro Cop simply by securing one takedown, and you have a very hollow competition for the UFC title. Josh Barnett, Nogueira and Fedor. Those are the three we would have been talking about if the UFC wasn’t a joke.

Also, if Fedor is washed up for beating people who are washed up, what does that make Randy, for losing to people who are washed up, some of which you meganewbs would never in a million years have ever heard of? Fedor would beat Randy, but Randy doesn’t even deserve that fight, as I’ve explained in other posts

Randy won the UFC title from Maurice Smith and was stripped because he couldn’t come to terms with the UFC for a contract. SOUND FAMILIAR?
He came back and was granted an immediate title shot against Kevin Randleman and won the title. While fighing for RINGS as UFC champion he lost to Valentijn Overeem by getting choked out. He came back to UFC and defended the belt twice against Pedro Rizzo in the same year before getting beaten by Josh Barnett for the title. Barnett was stripped and Couture immediately got ANOTHER title shot given to him, this time against Ricco Rodriguez, LOSING AGAIN. Then he drops in weight to IMMEDIATELY GET YET ANOTHER TITLE SHOT, against Chuck Liddell where he wins the interim light heavyweight title. Fights Tito Ortiz to unify the light heavyweight title. Loses title in controvercial ref stoppage to Vitor Belfort, but gets an immediate rematch and wins the belt back. Then loses title to Chuck Liddel in rematch. Beats MIKE VAN ARSDALE by submission (one of only 2 submission victories in his career, and the only non title match he fought in the UFC since 2000) Lost again to Chuck Liddel in their 3rd fight (where he got yet ANOTHER title shot given to him, although he had only beaten VanArsdale, a sure top contender) Randy then RETIRES. Only to move back up to heavyweight to get ANOTHER IMMEDIATE TITLE SHOT against Tim Sylvia. Then Defeats Gabriel Gonzaga and promptly WALKS AWAY WITH THE TITLE AGAIN.
The guy has been given title shot after undeserved title shot again and again. Twice he has walked away with the belt while champion because he was unhappy with the contract HE SIGNED. The guy has only fought 1 non title fight in 8 years, and he acts like the UFC hasn’t given him preferential treatment? I am sick of people defending Randy Couture as the greatest of all time when it’s obvious he is not. Sure, he has fought some great fights and top fighters, and there is no doubt he is a legend, but he has been treated like no other fighter in UFC history and I for one can’t wait for this mess to be over so I don’t have to hear any more about Randy Couture.
And to paint FEDOR like he cannot be beaten by anyone ever is insane. MMA is a sport where ANYONE can be beaten. I’m sick of the Randy and Fedor Hyperbole Machine. WHEN WILL IT END?

i hear you man. randy is only considered the greatest in US.

Ill give you credit for the indepth knowledge of your post, there was a couple of things you metioned I was not even aware of. The UFC wether pre-zuffa ownership or not gave Randy those title shots because they thought he desereved them otherwise they would have never been given to him.
When Randy was given his oppurtunities he capitalized most times. He almost always was able to step up and win even as the underdog.

I am not saying that Fedor cant be beaten ever, Im saying right now there is no one who can beat him no one. And everyone knows that to this point no one has, other than a doctor stoppage.

IMO Fedor is the badest man on the planet. I am dead serious about that. I dont think he can be beaten either. Kevin Randleman slammed him on ihs neck and he didnt even break stride… I think its foolish and ignorant of people to Hate on him and not praise is skills. I dont care what organization he has fought in, he has given me some of the most memorable performances I have ever seen in MMA. You know how many of his matches make me say: I will never forget the night Fedor….

He has given mma so many great and entertaining performances. I really respect and appreciate him as a fighter. Those that dont just show there ignorance! Its kind of like how some people used to hate on Jordan. They looked for anything to say: He is a gun, Wilt Chamberlain was better…regardless of what anybody said, deep down we all know Jordan was the greatest of all time… As is Fedor!

Regardless of who he fights…it shouldnt change the FACT that he would destroy any fighter that you put in front of him.

Regardless of who he fights…it shouldnt change the FACT that he would destroy any fighter that you put in front of him.

Don’t know how you can say that as a fact. Fedor can be defeated just like every other fighter. Maybe it will be Randy, maybe it won’t. The only thing that is for sure is that it will happen.

That being said, as long as Fedor begins fighting top competition again soon, I am sure he will probably retire as the best heavyweight in MMA.

Why is my comment still under moderation? Is it because i said that i am “tired of hearing all these guys B*tch about what other fighers are making”??? It shouldn’t take 4 hours to decide to censor me.

Why is my comment still under moderation? Is it because i said that i am “tired of hearing all these guys B*tch about what other fighers are making”??? It shouldn’t take 4 hours to decide to censor me.

Mania went out to dinner dude, it’s not like he sits at his desk 24/7. Kick back for a second.

I don’t like it when that happens either.

What a farce. If Fedor really wants the Couture fight, he already has it. I’m sure M1 can/will make it happen. Question is will the mainstream fans/media care?

Dana White and the Zuffa brothers made MMA what it is today. They even made Randy what he is today. For Randy to walk out on the hand that fed him makes him a moron.

Besides, I couldn’t care less about Randy any more. Just let me know wht’s up next for Brock…

Fedor will never foght Randy. The reason he won’t is because he will not fight Randy or anyone unless the fight is fixed or a set up.

Fixed? A “setup”? What? Do you have some sort of inside info?

Sorry, i just didn’t want my entire rant to get erased because of “moderation” again. Sometimes i just get so sick of Randy Couture that i have trouble waiting to voice my opinion. And don’t get me wrong, although i feel like the Hype Machine is a little too wound up right now (with regards to Fedor v Randy); I’m not hating on Fedor for his skills at all. I just think that any human can lose a fight, including Fedor. I don’t think that ANYONE can doubt his skills, the only thing that can be doubted is the decisions he is currently making.

There’s not a chance that the Fertitta’s lawyers will allow Couture to sign with another organization in July. To think otherwise is naive. The lawsuit that they are just about to unleash on Couture is massive and quite far reaching in breadth and involves other people besides Couture himself. This is the Fertitta’s we’re talking about. They haven’t got to where they are (owning a lot of casinos) by being “choirboys”. Furthermore, in six months time no one (except hardcore junkies) would care anyways. Fedor is not marketable period…end of story.

Randy should have never signed a contract if he wasnt going to honor it. Randy vs Fedor was not even a thought before he fought Sylvia. He then beat Sylvia and the Fedor fight was mentioned some what, then beat Gonzaga and that was the dream match everyone was talking about. Randy knew he was getting older, and there was big money in the fight with Fedor and didnt want to risk losing an up and coming bout with Nog or Arlovski, because this would then reduce some of the hype/money between the two. Dana on the other hand is as whiney as they come. He reminds me of the the little kid who would slap his mama if she didnt get him a lollypop. He will talk a lot of shit, if you dont do things his way. I love the UFC, I just wish someone else was running it and wish Randy wasn’t such a bitch. A lot of people are yankin Fedor’s nuts right now, cause they think he is just trying to coast his number 1 status. I totally disagree, because I believe Fedor is willing to fight anyone out there, and just because he didnt sign with the UFC doesnt mean otherwise. All of his fights are some to remember.

You can never fault the fighter for taking any opportunities they are given, but in my opinion, no fighter in the history of MMA has been given the kind of repeated shots that Randy Couture has. I frankly was shocked that he even had to fight VanArsdale before getting yet another shot at Chuck. He lost his last 2 fights at heavyweight and was granted a title shot against Sylvia anyways. He didn’t have to even win a number 1 contender fight. Dana just handed it to him, and he defended the belt once and walked away. Why not give Arlovski a shot? Why not give anyone else a shot? He sure was given a lot of title fights when other fighters had just as much right to them, why not at least defend the belt until his contract was up. (a contract he signed). I am tired of hearing all of these guys bitch about what other people are making. Worry about yourself and if you don’t like it, don’t sign the contract. I’m sorry, but Chuck Liddel and Tito Ortiz and hell, even Brock Lesnar are bigger draws than Randy Couture. He almost got a million dollars of PPV revenue for one of his fights (not even counting his actual fight earnings) and he’s complaining because Chuck gets a little more? SELL MORE PPV’s!
And the only reason nobody RIGHT NOW can beat Fedor is because nobody of note gets to fight him. If he was fighting top contenders instead of nobodies, someone could beat him right now. But until M1 gets some actual talent in the heavyweight division, you’re probably right, nobody will beat him and he’ll just keep padding his undefeated record with fights against fighters that nobody knows.

Hey its now well known that the reason randy was given a title shot against tim even though he lost two in a row at that wieght class like you said and was coming off his 2cnd loss to lidell, was because the ufc didnt want randy to take bodogs offer of a garunteed 3 mill to fight fedor. Randy didnt make that up and has no reason to lie about that or anything else

You have got to be kidding….. Couture was and still would be the biggest draw for any ufc event. Chuck and randy are the biggest draws the ufc has ever had thus far. The only reason there are so many pissed off fans at randy is because they are going thru couture withdrawal, not only do all fans want to see him fight they need him to fight. Just watch previous ppv’s the fans chant his name befor, during and after the fights he always blows the roof off the place. Watch the randy/tim fight again that is the loudest I have ever heard a crowd at a ufc event he is loved respected and admired by practically everyone

About fedor, Ive broken down the sylvia nog fight several times now and all I can think of when I watch is Nog is a beaten down man been in to many battles to many beatings he looked slow and lathargic and his take downs attempts were telegraphed and unexplosive He obviosly is a legend and was able to pull off the win barely but if Fedor was in the octogon with tim he would have rocked him standing or secured the take down and finished tim is the first round. There is no one in the ufc that would even pose a threat to give him his first real defeat. Randy will probably give him a good fight but he cant beat fedor either regardless of where the fight takes place. Fedor isnt ducking anyone he didnt sign with the ufc big deal he wanst about to be bullied and controlled, If you think hes ganna fight nobodys for the rest of his career youre crazy he wont allow that he will seek out the top fighters and fight them. There are more and more top heavywieghts outside of the ufc and the way things are going there will be even more. Im just excited to see him fight when and where ever that may be. just watch he will start fighting tougher and tougher competition as time goes on and everyone will see just how dominant he really is.

you could be absoulutly correct in your saying,but i thought when his contract expires in july hes free to speak with any organization that he wishes to,coutoure has lawyers to let them handle the legal issues and hi mjust train for the fight.

His contract was for 4 fights or 2 years, whichever came first. By refusing to fight Big Nog (within the time he was contractually obligated to the UFC) he violated his contract so he can’t just wait till it ends and go fight Fedor.

my bad, 4 fights or 18 months

15-8 folks…thats not even 66.6% win percentage. WTF??? Randy is overrated.

another guy who’s lack of knowledge of what really mma is all about, how long this kind of people will exist? this is not a boxing that you’ll gonna rate a fighter base on his record.

if you’ll rating a fighter based on his record i might say maybe “Jason Reinhardt” is one of you hero

truth!

Wow I have been watching the UFC since the first one in 1992. I am a pretty avid fan and knowledgable about the sport, but I never realized just how preferential Couture treatment was. I mean I always knew he was pretty whinny about his contracts in the past (annoyingly so imo). I just never realized that in 8 years he has had only 1 non-title fight. You know he really has been handed title without paying any dues after getting knocked off the ladder like other fighters. Hell even Chuck, one of the more successful UFC champs did not get an immediate rematch. Even Matt Hughes to fight some number one contender matches after losing the title and he was the most succesful of all UFC champs.

Fedor thinks he can manipulate MMA by poking away at Dana, but in all in all the UFC holds over 250 contracts and the majority of the worlds best talent resides there. Fedor could have done alot more for MMA fighters if he had signed with the UFC. If you compare the amount of talent that is currently fighting in the UFC and then look at Fedor and his decisions, it’s pretty evident at who’s in the right and who is in the wrong. The UFC HW division may not stand out like the LHW and the WW division does but it is still the biggest stage to compete on in MMA and avoiding it puts you in the same status as Frank Shamrock.

whats up with everybody talkin shit about fedor. he is the best . love him or hate him! its dana’s fault that he cant fight randy. anyways randy would lose. you all saw what chuck did to randy but imagine fedor. come on now!!!

Wow I have been watching the UFC since the first one in 1992. I am a pretty avid fan and knowledgable about the sport, but I never realized just how preferential Couture treatment was. I mean I always knew he was pretty whinny about his contracts in the past (annoyingly so imo). I just never realized that in 8 years he has had only 1 non-title fight. You know he really has been handed title without paying any dues after getting knocked off the ladder like other fighters. Hell even Chuck, one of the more successful UFC champs did not get an immediate rematch. Even Matt Hughes to fight some number one contender matches after losing the title and he was the most succesful of all UFC champs.

Like i said before, although Randy is a great fighter and has some of the great moments in UFC history, its about time that people realize that he has been given more opportunity AFTER failure than anyone else. 33% of his fights were title SHOTS, not just title fights (where he may have been the champion coming into the fight). I respect his skills as a fighter completely. BUT, i don’t respect his attitude about the UFC not taking care of him. To me nothing is more disrespectful than walking away with the title and holding the title hostage and putting the next title holder in a bad position. If i won a title and then just said, “i quit”, then i can go around saying “oh, well nobody ever beat me for the belt” you devalue the Championship and devalue the company. I am glad that what i wrote has sparked such debate.

Hey its now well known that the reason randy was given a title shot against tim even though he lost two in a row at that wieght class like you said and was coming off his 2cnd loss to lidell, was because the ufc didnt want randy to take bodogs offer of a garunteed 3 mill to fight fedor. Randy didnt make that up and has no reason to lie about that or anything else

You have got to be kidding….. Couture was and still would be the biggest draw for any ufc event. Chuck and randy are the biggest draws the ufc has ever had thus far. The only reason there are so many pissed off fans at randy is because they are going thru couture withdrawal, not only do all fans want to see him fight they need him to fight. Just watch previous ppv’s the fans chant his name befor, during and after the fights he always blows the roof off the place. Watch the randy/tim fight again that is the loudest I have ever heard a crowd at a ufc event he is loved respected and admired by practically everyone

About fedor, Ive broken down the sylvia nog fight several times now and all I can think of when I watch is Nog is a beaten down man been in to many battles to many beatings he looked slow and lathargic and his take downs attempts were telegraphed and unexplosive He obviosly is a legend and was able to pull off the win barely but if Fedor was in the octogon with tim he would have rocked him standing or secured the take down and finished tim is the first round. There is no one in the ufc that would even pose a threat to give him his first real defeat. Randy will probably give him a good fight but he cant beat fedor either regardless of where the fight takes place. Fedor isnt ducking anyone he didnt sign with the ufc big deal he wanst about to be bullied and controlled, If you think hes ganna fight nobodys for the rest of his career youre crazy he wont allow that he will seek out the top fighters and fight them. There are more and more top heavywieghts outside of the ufc and the way things are going there will be even more. Im just excited to see him fight when and where ever that may be. just watch he will start fighting tougher and tougher competition as time goes on and everyone will see just how dominant he really is.

I guess i’ll reiterate how i think Fedor is DEFINATELY one of the greatest fighters in the history of MMA. I love seeing him fight and have enjoyed his fights greatly. I hope that he is able to fight more elite fighters because i like seeing great fighters fight. I almost hope that AA goes M1 and fights Fedor, as i think it would be a great matchup. (which i think AA has a reasonable chance to win). I am not hating on Fedor. I am not hating on Randy Couture as a fighter. I am not going through Randy Withdrawl. I just feel that most fans are blind to the fact that Randy has been given more chances than any other fighter and for him to hold the belt hostage is wrong; in light of the fact that the UFC practically tattooed it around his waist. I would still not bet against him in virtually any fight. I think the world of his skills. But as a business man?; I think he is a fraud. And i think more people should know it.

This fight would be a high risk for the UFC. They know Fedor’s abilities, and they might not risk the possibility of another organization gaining profile IF Fedor does beat Randy. It’s understanding for the business side of the sport to be this way, and this is the side that pays/makes the bills.

What sucks is that these two great fighters take pride in what they are doing, and they want to fight against the best. I don’t see it happening until Randy forfills his contract. Hopefully it’s not to late(age) for both fighters.

I feel M-1 has 100% confidence in Fedor, and UFC has mixed feelings. But as already said, UFC is business before pride.

I am very surprised at the amount of replies this topic got.

this is as much Fedor’s fault as it is Dana’s. Fedors main gripe was over being able to fight in Russia still in Sambo tournaments and the occassional Japan appearance as well. was that worth him turning down the UFC contract? Probably not but to him (he is a fanatic Russian patriot who loves his country and loves the sport of sambo more so even than MMA) it wasn’t acceptable to deny him the right to fight in Russian sambo events.

Dana throwing boatloads of money at him was wrong because that disrespects everyone on his roster who has shown him the loyalty that it took to make UFC a top name in MMA.

This fight will be similar to the Trinidad vs Roy Jones fight it will happen eventually but by the time it does neither fighter will be near their peeks anymore in terms of skill.

Fedor is the best mma fighter of all time !

http://ultimatemma.blogspot.com/2008/02/video-joe-rogan-talks-about-fedordana.html

Fedor VS Couture

Fedor left because Dana offered only money, but not FLEXIBILITY. Think about it, Fedor every year fights at that Sambo competition. Not because he needs too but because he wants to. He enjoys Sambo, that’s like his hobby. Dana basically said ‘fuck that, how about more money instead?’. This is a testament to Fedor’s character. Most fighters would jump on that opportunity and sell themselves out. Fedor was true to himself. He wasn’t going to be Dana’s bitch, like so many other fighters in the UFC. Yeah, Fedor hasn’t fought ranked fighters for a couple years. Could that be these ranked fighters are in the UFC sucking Dana’s dick. Plus, the UFC isn’t the best organization of all time. Pride was, it’s just that Pride went down because of managements ties to the mafia and UFC was sitting right there. Waiting in the shadow. And think about it, the HW and LHW and MW champions are basically Pride fighters. They spent majority of their time in pride. Shogun and Wanderlie didn’t do well so far because their fighting style is knocking the guy down and stomping and kicking his head off until the ref ends the fight. You can’t do that in the UFC. They need a whole new game plan and it WILL TAKE TIME and they’ll adjust cause they have the talent. Maybe not Wanderlie since he’s near the end of his career. Think about it, he has like 30-40 fights already and he fought heavyweights a few times in the last few years. He basically wore himself out and he’s paying the consequences right now. “Don’t bite off more than you can chew” is what Wanderlie needs to understand now. Rest and dont be a superhero. One last thing, how come people that lose on the Ultimate fighter end up being in the UFC shows in the near future. Seems fucked up. Since winners and losers end up fighting in the UFC. And a lot of them are Americans. Last time I heard, MMA is a global sport. Oh well, Dana’s running the show, I guess it all boils down to dollars and cents and not fucking up his ego.

I think Dana White is an asshole. He’s acting like an immature little child by making those rude and ignorant comments. BTW Fedor has already stated that he doesn’t consider himself the number one pound for pound fighter right now, so I think people should stop harassing him. Why are so much people talking shit about Fedor? He’s been insulted by many an asshole like Dana White but he’s still handling himself in a professional manner. In my opinion he seems like a nice guy. Maybe he’s not the top fighter as of right now… but to say he suckss!? he’s beaten a who’s who of mma studs. His record speaks for itself, not to mention his only loss was very contreversial. He hasn’t fought top guys lately but Randy hasn’t either. hmmm… gonzaga is barely making that top ten list, and sylvia got choked out by big nog(fedor beat him twice) to be honest i don’t think couture even deserves that fight against Fedor. Just look at their records. 23-1 vs. 16-8. Fedor’s loss isn’t even legit while Randy’s losing to mediocre/unknown fighters. There’s just no comparison between the two. With the exception of wrestling, Fedor is superiour in all aspects. And staying active and actually fighting, even if they are nobodys. Randy won’t even fight legit contenders like Big Nog cuz he’s too afraid to risk a loss.

I love all the comments like “Stay there, who cares about Fedor” and “LOL…….F@^* Fedor, I not sure what’s funnier
this statement or his last 5 opponent’s”… these people are UFC fans, not MMA fans. Fedor will roll through ANYBODY in the UFC. I haven’t seen a fighter in the world yet who can beat him. Dana pisses me off sometimes.

This letter is bullshit Fedor wouldn’t say anything along these lines. Hence the reason posts on it have stopped 9 months ago. nice try to whatever dick head made this up.

ill fight him