Ufc 75? Should be 85 right?

u no wat ufc it is…

Ufc 75? Should be 85 right?

Thanks for the heads up. Fixed.

I’m a long time reader here and I just had to sign up to clear something up for me. Are we really talking about UFC 85 in may !?!?!? Really ? Ufc 85 in may ?

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I’m a long time reader here and I just had to sign up to clear something up for me. Are we really talking about UFC 85 in may !?!?!? Really ? Ufc 85 in may ?

It’s June 14. Where does it say May?

I think Chuck is a bad matchup for Shogun!Chuck is desperate for another run at the title. I really hope Shogun doesn’t flop like Crocop. At least Shogun has time on his side.

Oh yes I will be in the arena when this one goes off.
Lets hope the Shogun of old turns up and destroys Lidell in an entertaining war.

Hackleman sounds like a whiny bitch. No one likes to travel, it’s just part of the job now. They’d better not use this as an excuse if Chuck looses.

Oh yes I will be in the arena when this one goes off.
Lets hope the Shogun of old turns up and destroys Lidell in an entertaining war.

Agreed! Liddell is OVER-RATED and just a wanna-be celebrity…Can’t wait to see ShoGun “Break the Ice” and send Chucky-Boy back to doing what he does best…being Dana White’s Lil Woman!!!

MMAmania: it says that here:
http://mmamania.com/2008/01/21/ufc-85-bj-penn-vs-sean-sherk/

But i guess that has been cleared up, it’s probably from the time ufc 83 and ufc 84 where taking place with only one week in between.

Thanks for the explaining.

this is gonna b great a easy win fo rua…after over-rated chucky loses then all u chuck lovers will know what us smart people know…chucky is done over

the only reason chucky gets big fights is bcause he gives dana oral pleasure

this is gonna b great a easy win fo rua…after over-rated chucky loses then all u chuck lovers will know what us smart people know…chucky is done over

the only reason chucky gets big fights is bcause he gives dana oral pleasure

i keep waiting for you to say something intelligent and prove that you are over the age of 6. does your mom know that you are using her computer unattended?

Keith Jardine must be pissed. He’s not gonna get the title shot and two guys he beat (if Liddell wins) are gonna get the title shot before him.

The UFC must really want Brandon Vera to go to 205. Their giving him another huge guy to try and show him he is to small. I wonder if it will work this time?

Keith Jardine must be pissed. He’s not gonna get the title shot and two guys he beat (if Liddell wins) are gonna get the title shot before him.

Good point, its a joke how the fighters with the more marketable personalities jump to the top of the list.

Dana is more bothered about selling PPV’s than doing the fighters justice.

i keep waiting for you to say something intelligent and prove that you are over the age of 6. does your mom know that you are using her computer unattended?

Where the fuck is jardine been he must be pissed who else dose he have to fight to get a shot at the title. he crushed forrest beat chuck and some how they r going to get a title shot be4 him that is fucked up.

this is shoguns coming out party

This might be on Free TV. I mean when was the last time we acutally saw a UFC PPV on Free TV? UFC 75 Champion vs. Champion?

Or is the age of Free PPV on TV done for good?

This card is going to be good, just like 82, just like 83, and just like 84.

Liddell/Shogun is a huge fight.

If chuck wins this fight i dont want to hear him talk about a title shot because if he does he dillusion. And if he gets it then that means you just have to beat shogun to get a title shot.

this is gonna b great a easy win fo rua…after over-rated chucky loses then all u chuck lovers will know what us smart people know…chucky is done over

the only reason chucky gets big fights is bcause he gives dana oral pleasure

in half your posts you say you are smart.. are you a mensa member or something??

by the way shogun looked really bad in his performance against forrest.. I hope he comes back much better

I like that Lesnar might be fighting on this card too. Lesnar needs to get as many fights in as he can. He needs to get into the octagon as often as he can to gain some experience.

Here we ago once and sadly again, here you are, YOU Shogun fans, glorifying a man who got his ass beat and handed to him BAD! by none other than Forrest Griffin, you keep using the “if the old Shogun shows up” DROP IT! Shogun will show up and looking just like he did against Griffin. Look at his physique in Pride and look at him now in UFC, see the dramatic difference? it’s what happens to the body when it goes through steroid withdrawal. Liddell will crush that putsie.

I agree that chuck might be at the end of his rope here but how can people say that he is overrated. He has beaten some of the top 205 guys over his career some more than once. It’s fine to call him old or say hes all done and shogun will kill him but calling him overrated is just stupid.

This might be on Free TV. I mean when was the last time we acutally saw a UFC PPV on Free TV? UFC 75 Champion vs. Champion?

Or is the age of Free PPV on TV done for good?

This card is going to be good, just like 82, just like 83, and just like 84.

Liddell/Shogun is a huge fight.

Not a chance this event is free on TV. The UFC has been loosing money on European events, which usually feature weak cards. UFC is gonna beef up this card with good and important match ups so that us Americans will have no choice but to order it, whether itws 3pm or 10pm. Chuck Liddell is the UFC’s biggest draw…No way Dana gives us Chuck vs. Shogun (of all people for free). Get your $45 ready!

If chuck wins this fight i dont want to hear him talk about a title shot because if he does he dillusion. And if he gets it then that means you just have to beat shogun to get a title shot.

Over-rated chucky should in NO WAY be in line for a title shot…If anything Jardine deserves a shot way before chucky…And Chucky is really delusional…He gets a big head because Dana White gives him big fights he no longer deserves..if Chucky happens to accidentally beat Sho Gun and gets a title shot..I will quit watching UFC..At least make the OldMan err I mean Iceman fight and bear Jardine before he would even be considered for a big fight

in half your posts you say you are smart.. are you a mensa member or something??

by the way shogun looked really bad in his performance against forrest.. I hope he comes back much better

I agree that chuck might be at the end of his rope here but how can people say that he is overrated. He has beaten some of the top 205 guys over his career some more than once. It’s fine to call him old or say hes all done and shogun will kill him but calling him overrated is just stupid.

yeah good point at ufc 48 or 49 he fought the great vernon tiger white i heard he was a hall of famer or the great babalu twice,,keith jardine oh wait jardine beat his ass…he got to fight the axe-murderer after all the bare-knuckle wars in the jungle if they fought 3 years ago chucky wouldnt have seen the 2nd round

You guys this is a bad match-up chuck is going to KO him in the 1st or 2nd round shogun is not going to be able to take him down so he’s going to have to strike with him and chuck is by far the better striker this fight is chucks. plus chuck has something to fight for this fight is a number one contender fight so the winner will get the winner between forrest and rampage chuck has the fire back in him go chucky

The Man just beat probaly one of the best fighters in the world pretty bad give chuck some credit if he beats shogun to then there is no excuses that he is not over rated cause he is not he’s one of the best fighters in the world still he was before but he still is

Hackleman sounds like a whiny bitch. No one likes to travel, it’s just part of the job now. They’d better not use this as an excuse if Chuck looses.

Agreed. Boo Hoo. The 205 lb titles were unified in…. London. If you want to be the WORLD’s best fighter, you have to be willing to fight anywhere in the world.

Over-rated chucky should in NO WAY be in line for a title shot…If anything Jardine deserves a shot way before chucky…And Chucky is really delusional…He gets a big head because Dana White gives him big fights he no longer deserves..if Chucky happens to accidentally beat Sho Gun and gets a title shot..I will quit watching UFC..At least make the OldMan err I mean Iceman fight and bear Jardine before he would even be considered for a big fight

If anyone in the division can go in and beat Wanderlei and Shogun in back to back fights…they deserve a title shot. I don’t care what their name is. Those are 2 top 10 LHWs and big names in the MMA world. I’m not saying Jardine doesn’t deserve a potential title shot for his wins over Griffin and Liddell but he has a loss in between those fights so I think he needs to string together another win over a big name to get title shot consideration. Like it or not…Liddell is a huge name for the UFC and this is a business as well as a sport…he brings in lots of money for them and a lot of non-MMA followers still know who he is and tune in to see him for that reason. The more attention the UFC can get…the better for us all really.

Well said Buster Bluth.

Liddell needs this win for a title shot. Rashad/Jardine should rematch or Tito/Machida should be next in line after Chuck.

Liddell needs this win for a title shot. Rashad/Jardine should rematch or Tito/Machida should be next in line after Chuck.

So if Tito beats Machida…u would suggest him being the #1 contender? THats far fetched!

Rashad wont be able to fight Jardine because he will get busted up by Tiago.

Jardine is rumored to tangle with wanderlei at UFC 84….Nothing official yet though!

Don’t worry, tito will never beat machida :-)

I think shogun should avoid try to take him down, he spent a lot of energy trying to take forrest down over and over.. he should also consider dropping to MW..

Cant wait for this!! Iv waited soo long to see the ICEMAN live, please let me know asap of the date MANIA!!!!
All you chuck haters get a grip man, the guy is over rated??wtf!!! Are you serious, hes been beat off rampage and jardine(just), then he was able to come back and demolish the “axe murderer” How on earth is he over rated??
Chuck is gony kick some shogun ass BIG TIME and im gony be there to see it yeeeeeeeeeha!!!

I’m actually leaving London six days before this happens. WHY GOD WHY?!?!?! (sobs)

maybe you should reschedule skatanicus? lol

if Lesnar indeed takes on Vera, man I fear for Vera’s life. He’s just gonna get destroyed, its not even gonna be funny!

yeah good point at ufc 48 or 49 he fought the great vernon tiger white i heard he was a hall of famer or the great babalu twice,,keith jardine oh wait jardine beat his ass…he got to fight the axe-murderer after all the bare-knuckle wars in the jungle if they fought 3 years ago chucky wouldnt have seen the 2nd round

Well “the great babalu” who as you said chuck beat twice beat shogun. And lsat time I checked there was 4 people in the ufc hall of fame, one of which chuck has beaten twice. How many people can you honestly say have beaten numerous hall of famers.One of his loses is to a hall of famer, two were against a great fighter in Rampage and Jeremy Horn was early in his career.Jardine did beat his ass cuz chuck is getting old and isnt nearly as good as he was. And I do think chuck will lose and i do think that wanderlei would have beat him a few years ago but you still can’t call him overrated

OK people …Yea I think The Pit should quit whining and just go fight in London, I mean come one, if you win it is like a gauranteed title shot??? Now my 2nd point….how is Chuck overrated? or washed up? If he is, then that means so is Randy, Wanderlei,(Tito…well)….Babalu…he went to what I thought was a close descicion with Jaridne…the dude is not washed up, hes just not expected to win every single time anymore because lets face it, he hasnt T/KO’d anyone since Tito in Dec 06, and hes no longer champ, this does not mean he is overated. I expect a close fight between shogun and Chuck, and if Chuck does win and people still say he is overrated then that will also mean Shogun is overrated as well lol. All smart people on this site know none of these fihgters is overated, they just dont always have the best showings.

Lesnar vs vera would be awesome.. I hope that happens… either way whoever wins it probably wouldn’t make it out of the 1st rnd. I would like to see them trade punches on the feet..

Keith Jardine must be pissed. He’s not gonna get the title shot and two guys he beat (if Liddell wins) are gonna get the title shot before him.

I agree!? why doesnt he get a fight? he should have have the fight with Machida and THAT winner gets the title shot!
Where is Jardine joe silva??!!!!!!!!

Im #1 Shogun fan, but if Shogun comes in to fight the way in such BAD cardio shape like he did against Griffin, Liddell will beat Shogun’s ass.

no way should chuck get a shot if he wins this fight what is shogun a title gatekeeper? no way chuck needs a couple more fights if he wins this then maybe a shot again. ufc cannot ignore machida or rashad evans or jardine. they cannot. chuck doesnt deserve a shot if he wins

Put Jardine against Wandy or Soko.

Chuck has superior standup compared to Shogun. Chuck has world class take down defense which will nuetralize Shogun’s ground abilities. Moreover, Chuck showed his diverse skill set in in the Wandy fight. Unless Chuck comes to the fight like he came to Good Morning Texas TV show Chuck will hurt Shogun. You can bet your left nut on that!

All Chuck is anymore is just a name…he is over-rated and his career is over. Jardine killed him and made him look foolish. He is washed up and its over. Maybe if he focused on his training instead of worrying about where he is going to fill up that gut with beer after the fight, he could actually beat someone. The only reason he wanted to fight Jardine was because he thought The Dean Of Mean was a tomato can…well that tomato can made ketchup out of Chucky. And I am sure since he saw Forrest take out Sho Gun he now thinks he can walk through him too. This fight ends like the Jardine fight…Sho Gun by KO in Rd 1..write it down. Then Chucky can do what he really wants to do…be a D-List celebrity. Coming Soon to VH1: Surreal Life 9 Featuring Chuck Liddell!

If anyone in the division can go in and beat Wanderlei and Shogun in back to back fights…they deserve a title shot. I don’t care what their name is. Those are 2 top 10 LHWs and big names in the MMA world. I’m not saying Jardine doesn’t deserve a potential title shot for his wins over Griffin and Liddell but he has a loss in between those fights so I think he needs to string together another win over a big name to get title shot consideration. Like it or not…Liddell is a huge name for the UFC and this is a business as well as a sport…he brings in lots of money for them and a lot of non-MMA followers still know who he is and tune in to see him for that reason. The more attention the UFC can get…the better for us all really

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO because both those guys have been looking pretty shitty latey and the are both come off of loses by either submission or KO.

do al fighters who come come from pride give lackluster performances in der first fight in da ufc, but then come in really strong in der second fight, ie: nog amdampage, both holding title afer two bad entry performances?? so shogun gassed or was injured, whatever, forrest won, great performance, i do believe shogun will come bck stronger, but i find it hard to call a victor between him and liddell, i think liddell may catch him! as for title shots, forrest deserves 1 ahead of jardine, sure jardine beat forrest, but forrest beat shogun, what was he ranked then, no 1 or 2? jardine – ya thats kinda bullshit, but i guess he has fought noone since chuck, whos he fighting next – maybe another solid performance against a top contender, he could b nxt in line after forrest/rampage, dat is if chuck looses, or maybe against the winner of the liddell title fight, he’ll get his shot!! and i dont think chuck is overrated, sure he’s more of a brawler, but look at those who have come before him – tank, even vitor, chucks striking is very impressive, a who’s who of knockouts, like 13 in ufc, 2 in pride, with a kickboxing record of like 20-2, ya if hes overrated then randy dosent deserve to b in d hall of fame, tito never had the title, and renato never beat shogun, cos chuck knocked them all out twice, yes overrated indeed!!!!!!

has tank survived, well look at his record, and vitor is a shadow of himself!! sorry bout the 2 posts, hit return !

do al fighters who come come from pride give lackluster performances in der first fight in da ufc, but then come in really strong in der second fight, ie: nog amdampage, both holding title afer two bad entry performances?? so shogun gassed or was injured, whatever, forrest won, great performance, i do believe shogun will come bck stronger, but i find it hard to call a victor between him and liddell, i think liddell may catch him! as for title shots, forrest deserves 1 ahead of jardine, sure jardine beat forrest, but forrest beat shogun, what was he ranked then, no 1 or 2? jardine – ya thats kinda bullshit, but i guess he has fought noone since chuck, whos he fighting next – maybe another solid performance against a top contender, he could b nxt in line after forrest/rampage, dat is if chuck looses, or maybe against the winner of the liddell title fight, he’ll get his shot!! and i dont think chuck is overrated, sure he’s more of a brawler, but look at those who have come before him – tank, even vitor, chucks striking is very impressive, a who’s who of knockouts, like 13 in ufc, 2 in pride, with a kickboxing record of like 20-2, ya if hes overrated then randy dosent deserve to b in d hall of fame, tito never had the title, and renato never beat shogun, cos chuck knocked them all out twice, yes overrated indeed!!!!!!

Oh really because i seem to remeber cro cop getting his head kicked off his second fight.But it is true all the pride fighters that come to the ufc do put on a shit performance like:cro cop,fabricio werdum,sokojou,shogun,dan henderson,heath herring,nog,and some other ones i cant remember.but the one that has done well from beging to now is rampage.(dan henderson fight wasnt that bad it just that he lossed his first fight back)

Lesnar vs vera would be awesome.. I hope that happens… either way whoever wins it probably wouldn’t make it out of the 1st rnd. I would like to see them trade punches on the feet..

YEAH! that would be an AWESOME match!! David vs. Goliath

Lesnar vs vera would be awesome.. I hope that happens… either way whoever wins it probably wouldn’t make it out of the 1st rnd. I would like to see them trade punches on the feet..

they would never trade punches. if you’ve seen lesanar first 2 fights, it was on the ground within the first 10 seconds or so. i dont think he’s had enough time to go back and hardcore train in other aspects of the MMA. he’ll go to his roots and what works best for him at this point, which is shoot in and GnP. and if you dont believe that will be effective… take a look at the pics of Mir’s head at the UFC 81 after party

i would like to see chuck knock rua out,and i think it may happen to. chuck is a better fighter than rua and if rua is in the same shape he fought forrest in then chuck will end it in the second round.

Agreed. Boo Hoo. The 205 lb titles were unified in…. London. If you want to be the WORLD’s best fighter, you have to be willing to fight anywhere in the world.

Thanks for saying it. A fighter’s trainer not wanting to travel somewhere is unheard of. Just because his name is Chuck Liddell doesn’t mean he should be granted specail favors. BJ Penn and his team had to travel from Hawaii all the way to England in his last fight against Joe Stevenson. Chuck’s team should have not even brought up this issue to anyone because its ridiculous.

News from MMA Weekly: Rumored next fight on the UFC 84 card Wanderlei “The Axe Murderer” Silva vs Keith “The Dean of Mean” Jardine!

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/rumors.asp?articleid=5499&zoneid=14

I really hope Rua can beat Liddell. Liddell is no way overrated but for the good of the sport we need a younger guy beating someone who has not performed as well as he has in the past. We need a dominant, entertaining Rua to win.

On another point I think we saw enough potential in Brock Lesnar that he could possibly be a major player in the HW scene. He dominated Mir in the first minute, showed great takedown skills as we knew he would, overpowered his opponent, showed good punching when he knocked Mir down but ultimately his inexperience cost him by leaving his foot exposed. Maybe he should have gone for a rear naked choke when behing Mir instead of hammer punching him. He did much better than I thought he would though. Congratulations to him and fair play, he realised that after the fight and was very humble in defeat.

HAHAHA. That Surreal Life comment was hilarious. I don’t even care. Some of you guys are too funny. I love it! Keep it up!

Hopfully Rua is better conditioned for this fight than the Griffin one.

I don’t see this one going to decision.

All Chuck is anymore is just a name…he is over-rated and his career is over. Jardine killed him and made him look foolish. He is washed up and its over. Maybe if he focused on his training instead of worrying about where he is going to fill up that gut with beer after the fight, he could actually beat someone. The only reason he wanted to fight Jardine was because he thought The Dean Of Mean was a tomato can…well that tomato can made ketchup out of Chucky. And I am sure since he saw Forrest take out Sho Gun he now thinks he can walk through him too. This fight ends like the Jardine fight…Sho Gun by KO in Rd 1..write it down. Then Chucky can do what he really wants to do…be a D-List celebrity. Coming Soon to VH1: Surreal Life 9 Featuring Chuck Liddell!

Jardine didnt ko chuck! And it certainly wasnt a walk in the park either!

chuck is a decent fighter but all of you need to open your eyes and admit that fair is fair, but this chuck favoritism has gotten out of hand!

Chuck is fucking hot.

Shogun isn’t too bad either.

YEAH! that would be an AWESOME match!! David vs. Goliath

Maybe I’m crazy, but I think Lesnar would destroy Vera. Vera’s not going to catch Lesnar with a submission the way Mir did, and Mir wasn’t far from losing that fight, so I’d definitely expect Lesnar to finish Vera very quickly.

I see Chuck as the favorite against Shogun, considering Shogun looked so crappy in his last fight, but if they both come to fight it’s going to be very interesting. I don’t know if Shogun will be able to use the clench against Chuck and taking him down will be very difficult, so again, I’m favoring Chuck. If Shogun can use the clench or can get takedowns, he’ll win the fight. I just think that’s going to be a very difficult task.

Shogun is great, but Chuck has more experience and especially in the big fights…also, he seems to be getting back to being a MMArtist and not a 1 trick pony…not that I didnt enjoy it, plus I think Chuck misses that belt and wants it back on his waist one final time before retireing…he has 3 fights left on his contract, one to beat Shogun and one for the title, leaving him the option to defend once & retire or win the belt and retire….will be interesting to see how it plays out but at this point I view Chuck in the underdog role for the remaining of his career unless he can come out & KO Shogun in good fashion

Let’s go CHUCK!! He’s got this. Chuck gets amped for these big name fights, and that’s when we see the champion in him come out.

i cant wait for this fight! i was there at ufc 75 champion vs champion in london and was gonna go to newcastle for ufc 80 but wernt a brilliant fight card, defiently gotta go to ufc 85 to see these two fight, i think shogun will win bye decision

hang on did chucks camp moan about coming to england?

sorry ill stop commenting in a min just read the whole story! why they moaning about travelling?? give me his money for 1 fight and ill travel naked! lol

Here we ago once and sadly again, here you are, YOU Shogun fans, glorifying a man who got his ass beat and handed to him BAD! by none other than Forrest Griffin, you keep using the “if the old Shogun shows up” DROP IT! Shogun will show up and looking just like he did against Griffin. Look at his physique in Pride and look at him now in UFC, see the dramatic difference? it’s what happens to the body when it goes through steroid withdrawal. Liddell will crush that putsie.

this guy doesnt know what an ACL injury means right? i bet he doesnt…try training with an acl injury no wait TRY TO RUN WITH UR ACL FUCKED UP dude just keep it real shogun will destroy chuck that i know for sure 102 % can bet my house n my car

I think the UFC international events are just a big con.

They promise big fights before the tickets go on sale and the just withdrawn then untill the fight crad is a who are these guys again???

and the prices are just silly,

Ps dont think UFC will make it in to england they havent got the business sencs

long live CAGE RAGE for real fan how want to see big fights in england and dont want a load of crap