UFC 81 results coverage and LIVE fight commentary for ‘Breaking Point'

i can’t wait to pay another 5 bucks for one less fight on the card

Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.

Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.

So they can spend more time telling us about the latest movies coming out. Like we give a shit when we pay to see MMA, not comercials.

How is Tyson Griffin not televised? Every fight that dude is in is bad ass?

I would much rather watch Tyson Griffin over Alan Belcher.

Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.

I was just about to ask, how come there is not 5 main card fights?

I was just about to ask, how come there is not 5 main card fights?

There are always 9 bouts per card 5 of them are garanteed to be televised and 4 considered pre-lims and not garanteed to be telivised. Depending on the duration of the televised bouts is what determines how many if any of the pre-lims get aired.

The Tyson Griffin fight will definitely be on the main card and more than likely the first card on the bout.

I still cant believe they are raising the price of the PPv’s I hope the # of buys are low so they drop it back down to 39. 45 bucks is just not reasonable

How the hell is A Tyson Griffin Match not a definite broadcast. 3 of his 4 fights have been fight of the night.I think we all could do without the Alan Belcher fight. That fight alone would end up being the saving grace of this card. I think the only other person I am real excited to see on this card is the Jeremy Horn/Marquardt fight. Not like it means anything considering Silva already has run through the both of them, but it will be a super technical match.

This was the wrong card to test the the new price. They should have raised it on the silva/hendo card.
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Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.

WAR FRANK!

WAR TYSON!

No problem paying a few extra bucks at all, but they better show tyson cause hes just plain out sick!

Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.

Yeah but that’s at LHW, Horn might do better down at MW.

Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.

Ridiculous comment, Horn poses a risk to every fighter he steps in to the octagon/ring with. The guy’s insanely experienced…I’d never count him out

Mir better beat Lesnar, or he’ll need to hang his head in shame.

How is Tyson Griffin not televised? Every fight that dude is in is bad ass?

i agree just because belcher elbowed starnes and u could c his skull. a 1 hit wonder. unless the guy he is facing on this card also sucks.

Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.

i agree again!

Mir better beat Lesnar, or he’ll need to hang his head in shame.

i think lesnar better live up 2 the hype he has been talking. other wise ufc made a big mistake. the guy has 1 fight he won but who against?

Hey UFC…

SHOW ALL THE F*CKING FIGHTS!!!!!

I don’t get it. I will never understand why ALL the fights on the card aren’t televised. Are they saving the un-televised fights for SpikeTV UFC Unleashed or for cheap Christmas DVD box sets? This is ridiculous.

It would be robery if the Tibau/Griffin fight isn’t televised. How the heck are you going to make these undercard matches, and not give those fighters television exposure by putting them on the PPV? Most of the undercard fighters are journey men or up and comers that would benefit greatly from that kind of exposure. Plus, the fans can get to learn more about these guys, become familiar with them, and can be fans of those fighters in other UFC events.

We’re already paying for the programming. I’m sure the fans who’ve paid for the PPV wouldn’t mind if it went 5 hours to get those extra fights.

If the UFC isn’t listening, I hope Mark Cuban is!

How the hell is A Tyson Griffin Match not a definite broadcast. 3 of his 4 fights have been fight of the night.I think we all could do without the Alan Belcher fight. That fight alone would end up being the saving grace of this card. I think the only other person I am real excited to see on this card is the Jeremy Horn/Marquardt fight. Not like it means anything considering Silva already has run through the both of them, but it will be a super technical match.

that’s EXACTLY what i was thinking:

WHY THE HELL ISN’T TYSON on the Main Card?!?!?!?!?!?

DAMN. now i hope the first 4 fights finish in the 1st minute!

this stinks!!

i agree again!

do you know anything about Marquardt or jeremy horn?
In the past 5 years Horn has only lost to chuck lidell, mat lindland and he took anderson silva to a decision. yea the guy clearly cant hang anymore. lol and his record is what 79 – 16 yea that speaks for itself.

This is going to be a great fight with two of the best grapplers in mma.

You two need to learn to apreciate ground fighting.

do you know anything about Marquardt or jeremy horn?
In the past 5 years Horn has only lost to chuck lidell, mat lindland and he took anderson silva to a decision. yea the guy clearly cant hang anymore. lol and his record is what 79 – 16 yea that speaks for itself.

This is going to be a great fight with two of the best grapplers in mma.

You two need to learn to apreciate ground fighting.

How is Tyson Griffin not televised? Every fight that dude is in is bad ass?

I’d quite like to see Martin Vs Eastman too!

With the addition of pride fighters comming to ufc,and prices going up, number of fights going down on ppv. I think dana white and the owners of ufc are on some bullsh*t. Come on you guys are trying to make more money. That’s fine we’ll give the money but give us 10 really good fights every card. AND…….. CREATE THE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION so that way there are six titles and two titles defended every ppv and the titles shots are rotated every three ppv’s It’s not like you dont have enough fighters to do this. Oh brock is going to punish mir. Mir lost a tune up fight when he returned, in fact his face was super bloody and dizzy looking. Brock made his first opponent tap while being in the full mount. In like 30 seconds. This might be the fastest heavyweight fight in ufc history

Horn is amazing he never had formal training just learned by doing and fighting.

Didn’t Horn learn how to fight from Pat Miletich?

no one wants to see belcher…all of griffin’s fights are great, and also who wouldnt wanna see a slugfest b/t eastman and terry martin… i mean martin was considered a legit contender, and what, since leben got lucky and caught him means hes not even on the main card his next fight? bogus…

this is why griffin and martin are on the undercard: ufc wants to extra money by keeping some appealing fights off the main card so ppl will buy the ufc on demand on ufc.com…thats aggravating

Dang Terry and Marvin. That should be a good one. I hope they televise that.

Didn’t Horn learn how to fight from Pat Miletich?

The UFC buys 3 hour blocks for their Pay Per Views. This is a very common “event” amount of time. Boxing matches, movies, and concerts buy this amount of time to air their material. Pride’s North American PPVs are also in this format. The UFC schedules fight according to their time limit. They do so depending on how many non-title fights(3 rounds, 5 minutes each) and title fights(5 rounds, 5 minutes each). So 4 scheduled PPVs is usually the average amount of “scheduled fights” on a card. This means, if the four fights go to a judge’s decision, there is still enough time for all fights to be aired. One of the biggest disasters a fight promoter can have is the PPV coverage cutting out in the middle of a main event.

Many UFC PPVs have more then 4 fights. What often happens is a fight gets over before a judges decision so there is more time available. The UFC prepares for this in 2 ways:

The Swing Fight: The UFC will have a fight tentatively scheduled. If the other fights end quickly, that fight is then aired on the PPV and takes place live. The UFC usually places their swing fight between the co-main and the main event. Many other combat sports have “Swing Fights.” You can see many examples of “swing fights” on the show “Friday Night Fights,” HBO’s “Boxing After Dark” or most boxing PPVs. If their is no time for the swing fight on the PPV, the fight will take place after the main event and will not air on the PPV broadcast. A “swing fight” has never been held after a main event in the UFC.

Airing of prelim fights: A very convenient way for the UFC to fill PPV time is show tapes of prelim matches that occurred on the card before the matches that aired on PPV. This happens when fights on the main card end quickly. This allows the UFC to show fights that a) are the most exciting from the prelims b.) fit in the allowed time. A prelim match might end in the first round and could fill time at the end of a PPV where a full match could not.

Having 4 scheduled fights is not a way to rip you off. This is common practice in combat sports and a common move from the Zuffa era of the UFC. Most of the cards have some sort of “filler” match since rarely do all fights go to a Judge’s Decision. Critics of 4 scheduled fights are often fighting for the wrong cause since the card UFC 58 had only 5 matches but had more actual fighting shown then UFC 53 that showed 8 fights, and Pride’s “Total Elimination Absolute” which showed 8 fights. UFC 58 with its 5 matches had 65minutes and 1 second of fighting. UFC with its 8 fights had 54 minutes and 24 seconds of fighting. Pride’s ’Total Elimination Absolute" had 57 minutes and 55 seconds of fighting.

For UFC 46(Couture vs Vitor II) the UFC did NOT show any filler fights. This made many people mad since the fights on the show went very fast and there was about 40 minutes left of PPV time when they went of the air. On top of this, the main event was a huge let down with Randy getting his eye cut in a ab-normal incident very early in round one. Many people did e-mail campaigns showing their disgust, and shortly after, the UFC started showing as many fight on PPV as they could once again.

The reason why Pride often shows more fights then the UFC is because Pride is not live when it is shown on the North American broadcast. It is on what is called a “tape delay.” This delay happens because of the time zone difference between Japan and North America. If Pride was to broadcast live in North America, the event would air at 3 a.m. Instead, they delay it till prime time 18 hours later. This gives Pride time to edit the show. Where UFC has to show all entrances, all the time in between fights, and everything else that happens, Pride can edit out many entrances, and dead-time so they can fill that time on the North American PPV with more matches. Pride’s Bushido show often has 10 matches or more and they can show most of them in the time aloud because of editing.

OOPS!! Forgot to give credit for the info I just posted…It’s from…

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17836

WAR LESNAR

With the addition of pride fighters comming to ufc,and prices going up, number of fights going down on ppv. I think dana white and the owners of ufc are on some bullsh*t. Come on you guys are trying to make more money. That’s fine we’ll give the money but give us 10 really good fights every card. AND…….. CREATE THE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION so that way there are six titles and two titles defended every ppv and the titles shots are rotated every three ppv’s It’s not like you dont have enough fighters to do this. Oh brock is going to punish mir. Mir lost a tune up fight when he returned, in fact his face was super bloody and dizzy looking. Brock made his first opponent tap while being in the full mount. In like 30 seconds. This might be the fastest heavyweight fight in ufc history

Nope, AA KOed Buentello in 15 seconds.

Everyone who complained about Tyson not being on the main card beat me to it. As for the Mir-Lesnar fight, I just have no idea what’s going to happen. Usually I at least have some idea. I’m wrong a lot, but I know what I think is going to happen and why. I don’t think this on goes two full rounds, probably not even one. As far as who wins, I have no clue.

What the hell are they thinking 1) four fight and tyson is not one of them comeon now what BS. 2)$45.00 shit no…now i’ve been follow this stuff from back in the days HELL NO I WILL NOT pay $45 FOR ONE LESS FIGHT let alone 5 fight… you watch prices well go up and viewers like my self will stop watching…..

jeremy horn beat chuck lidell and forrest griffin back in the day!

How does Tyson Griffin not make the main card, what a joke

Anyone know of any Sports Bars in Los Angeles showing this fight?

The UFC PPV offering is on probation in my book. I’m going to buy 81 and it may be the last for a while. 82 better blow my socks off. I figure the UFC owes me a complete event’s worth of matches now. I think their strategy has been to thin down the offering but pack the events closer together to pull more dollars out of our wallets.

i can’t wait to pay another 5 bucks for one less fight on the card

Anyone know where I can see a video of the weigh ins? I missed them.

Thanks.

why don’t they jack the price $10 bones and give us all 9 fights! what the hell do they care if we see all of them or not … are they saving the ones we don’t get to see for something they can charge us for later – answer “no”. it’s certainly not going to stop people from seeing the event in person (so they can see all the fights). those people are gonna go to the event anyway.

Well. having been a Fan since they started televising On Spike TV they just over priced themselves for me.
I can’t afford it now.So Long

I like how Horn took the fight with such short notice, you know he’s a fighter for the glory, not the money.

The only money maker i see for them by not airing all 9 fights is that video on demand video.ufc.com subscription service were you can see all the prelims for a month subscription of like 9.99 per month also includes a lot of old fights and so forth.

Heres how its ganna go tonight,

Tyson Griffing 1st roung tko stoppage
Marquardt 3rd round doctor stoppage because Horn is a tuff SOB
Frank Mir by Arm Bar from his back 2cnd round
Nogiera by ankle lock or knee bar 4th round

do you know anything about Marquardt or jeremy horn?
In the past 5 years Horn has only lost to chuck lidell, mat lindland and he took anderson silva to a decision. yea the guy clearly cant hang anymore. lol and his record is what 79 – 16 yea that speaks for itself.

This is going to be a great fight with two of the best grapplers in mma.

You two need to learn to apreciate ground fighting.

I know all about Horn’s past. I know how respected he was/is. The problem is that he’s fought to much. He’s beat up. I went to UFC 56 in 2005 and Horn looked old and tired back then. He lost the fight but got the decision. And he was fighting some stiff! Everybody in the MGM was booking like crazy,and rightly so. I say Marquardt wins this fight fairly easily.

I’m predicting Griffin by TKO, Almeida by Submission, Marquardt by decision, Lesnar by decision, and Tim Sylvia by decision. This is a hard night to call the fights but I think Marquardt and Sylvia will win their fights by decision if they are not finished, so they seem decent to bet on. Lesnar will also likely be the victor if he is not finished, but very little is known about how he’ll perform against top guys so I wouldn’t bet too big on him.

My thoughts on the Mir/Lesnar fight….My heart really goes out to Mir and want to see him with the belt again, but at the same time I want to see Brock Lesnar rip through the competition and fight for the belt eventually. It’s a shame this fight couldnt happen later down the road since Mir is still trying to re-establish himself since his accident, and Brock is trying to establish himself period. I see this as a very important fight for both fighters, and I hope they both slug it out back and forth, and no one gets truly dominated cause I love both of these guys. I’d like to see it go all 3 rounds.

THIS IS A TERRIBLE CARD for MORE $$$$??!?!!?
WE SHOUYLD AYtLEAST getto see all the fights for u[[ing the price on a come on don you all aggrrea a weak card and the proceeds go to brock lessnar?!?!?!?

      SO YOU all SEE that RANDY COUTURE HAD A FREAKINGGGG POINT!?!?!?!?!!?
 
THIS tittle is really misleading as it should say brock will get about the same as CHuck or Brock is overpaid or the ufc doesnt care about loyalty
his is messed up how disproportianate pay is?!?!??!!?!?!

The last pay per view showed about 7-8 fights if I remember correctly so hopefully they will at least show 5 tonight.

War Mir!!!!!!!!

If you order the PPV online, do you see “ALL” the matches? Does anyone know what I am talking about?

Thanks in advance for the help.

THE NATURAL PICKS: UFC 81

A regular segment on The Fight Network’s original TV series’ “Before The Bell” and “After The Bell,” Randy Couture has his “Natural Picks” for this Saturday’s UFC 81 “Breaking Point” – live from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas – locked in.

Here’s what the expert analyst is predicting:

INTERIM HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Tim Sylvia (26-3) vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (30-4-1) — Sylvia

“I think Tim will tire Nogueira out on his feet. I think Nogueira’s going to have trouble putting him on the ground and maneuvering Sylvia into his strength, which is his submission game. I can see it going a third-round KO, but I could also see it going the distance and Nogueira getting a beating.”

HEAVYWEIGHT: Frank Mir (10-3) vs. Brock Lesnar (1-0) – Mir

“I’m going with Mir with a second-round submission. As big and strong as Lesnar is, and as hard as he’s going to come, I think he’s going to put Mir right where he wants to be and Lesnar’s going to get out of position and get caught.”

MIDDLEWEIGHT: Jeremy Horn (88-16-5) vs. Nate Marquardt (28-7-1) – Marquardt

“I’m going to go with Marquardt. Jeremy hasn’t really been the same since the Liddell fight. I think he realized he’s not infallible and can be hurt. Taking the fight on short notice probably isn’t the wisest thing. Marquardt is strong for that weight class and hits hard. I think Horn’s going to have trouble taking Marquardt down to find a wily way to submit him.”

MIDDLEWEIGHT: Rob Yundt (7-0) vs. Ricardo Almeida (8-2) – Almeida

“Almeida.”

LIGHTWEIGHT: Gleison Tibau (27-3) vs. Tyson Griffin (10-1) – Griffin

“I’m going with Tyson Griffin. Both guys have great fighting spirit, but Tyson’s very difficult to submit and will bring a torturable pace to the fight that Tibau’s going to have trouble keeping. I think it will be a decision and probably be the fight of the night.”

POSTED — 02/01/08

If the announcers would talk less and there was less build-up between fights interviewing the combatants, there would be plenty of time in 3 hours to have at least 6 fights—more if several fights did not go the distance. I record the fights on my DVR and fast-forward through most of that talk, anyway.

If the announcers would talk less and there was less build-up between fights interviewing the combatants, there would be plenty of time in 3 hours to have at least 6 fights—more if several fights did not go the distance. I record the fights on my DVR and fast-forward through most of that talk, anyway.

But then you would have fights that new people didnt even know of/ didnt even care of. The more new fans, the better.

i agree again!

So they can spend more time telling us about the latest movies coming out. Like we give a shit when we pay to see MMA, not comercials.

THIS IS A TERRIBLE CARD for MORE $$$$??!?!!?
WE SHOUYLD AYtLEAST getto see all the fights for u[[ing the price on a come on don you all aggrrea a weak card and the proceeds go to brock lessnar?!?!?!?

SO YOU all SEE that RANDY COUTURE HAD A FREAKINGGGG POINT!?!?!?!?!!?

THIS tittle is really misleading as it should say brock will get about the same as CHuck or Brock is overpaid or the ufc doesnt care about loyalty
his is messed up how disproportianate pay is?!?!??!!?!?!

As much as you seem to love the smell of Couture, Brock Lesnar is a bigger name to the average person, (who the UFC wants to buy PPV’s,) and will make them all a bunch of money. Nobody who isn’t already into MMA is going to say, "Wow, Randy Couture sure was great in that episode of “The Unit”, I sure want to watch him fight." But because people know who Brock is, they may be willing to see if a “fake pro wrestler” can really fight. Everything is not about Randy Couture. If he was smarter, maybe he wouldn’t have signed a contract under the terms he did. Taking the belt home because you feel slighted money-wise is cheap. If i agree to a job for x# of dollars, I look like a prima-donna if i go home crying because the guy next to me is making more. I am sick of people making excuses for Randy Couture. He is a fraud. I hope him and Fedor have that “dream fight” so i can laugh at how little it really matters in the grand scheme of things. More people are buying this PPV to see Brock Lesnar than any other reason. Take the same fight card and substitute Brock for (insert heavyweight here) and this card wouldn’t be nearly as intiguing as it is. People need to quit whining.

FIGHT UPDATE: Rob Emerson defeats Keita Nakamura via split decision

youpie!

I’m too cheap to buy the pay-per-view, but I can’t wait to at least hear who wins the Lesnar – Mir fight. I think Brock Lesnar is the real deal. I think he has a future in UFC.Having said that, he still lacks experience, Mir is a tough first fight, and I think Mir takes this one.

But then you would have fights that new people didnt even know of/ didnt even care of. The more new fans, the better.

Would someone please explain what this means?

I think the point being made is that not talking about the fights between time would make them able to squeeze in more fights.

Then the comment that new fans wouldn’t understand about what was going on about the fights if they didn’t talk between the fights.

Y has there been only 1 fight so far? Its 9:07 pm and the only fight that has taken place is the emerson fight? whats up with that?

how’s everyone doing on this lovely super weekend can’t wait to see my boy mir put brock in his place holla

FIGHT UPDATE: Marvin Eastman defeats Terry Martin via unanimous decision

Yo yo yo, what da deli? Haha, my man Eastman gettin his 1st UFC win, thats wasup! Now feed him 2 Silva.

Hey SmokeSuttin, remember “he broke Tim’s arm, BIG DEAL!” lol

Well, so far as my picks go for the first two fights all I have to say is BALLs ASS! Damn upsets. F-in terry martin piss-apointing me again. How was the eastman fight mania. Did he beast on him.

MANIA, whats going on? Why is it already 9:20pm and there are still 3 preliminary matches left? Wont this run past 10:00pm?

Here’s how I see this schizzle breaking down.
Noguiera will defeat Timmy, some sore of submission.
Lesnar (unfortunately) will ground and pound his way to victory.
Horn will return to form with a win. Also Almeida and Griffin will be victorious.

MANIA, whats going on? Why is it already 9:20pm and there are still 3 preliminary matches left? Wont this run past 10:00pm?

yeah, they always do

i wish i could of got this fight m dish went down.

FIGHT UPDATE: Tim Boetsch defeats David Heath via technical knockout (strikes) in round one

518 in the building still can’t order the fight!

I bet on every event and my style is to usually pick 2 or 3 of the main fights and throw a couple hundred dollars on each of them. Doing this I built up my betting account rather nicely so I am basically betting with the houses money at all the events.
I didnt like any of the fights on this event, so I decided to have some fun tonight and bet on everysingle fight but bet real small because I am not confident about any of these fights so I bet at leats $25 on every single fights but I bet $50 on the few I felt more confident about main. I will never use this method again, but I said what the hell, lets abandon my normal method and have some fun tonight. I cant bet how I normally et because There arent 3 fights that I feel comfortable enough betting hundreds of dollars on. With that said I just decided to have a lil fun tonight and try something different. My bets are:
Emerson $50
Eastman $25
Boetsh $25
Lytie $25
Griffin $25
Nate $50
Mir $25
Nogueira $25

FIGHT UPDATE: Chris Lytle defeats Kyle Bradley via technical knockout (strikes) in round one

yo WHITE RHINO,

i just made mad $ from Tim beating Heath!!! u?

but i still lost the fantasy pick

lost $50 on Bradley, but Lytle was my fan. pick

I am 4out of 4 so far tonight

Did anyone get a line on the Almeida fight? I couldnt get one.

mmaplayground ain’t looking so good.

R there anymore fights left before tghe live broadcast?

Funny Fact;
Bradley pulled guard on the ref after the fight was stopped!

lost alot of doe so far but theres still a chance.bang & bake

Griffin is up next, although i like him, my $ is on Tibau. LOVE THAT MONEY! HOLLA

it’s getting closer and closer to Lesnar destroying Mir!!!

Griffin is up next, although i like him, my $ is on Tibau. LOVE THAT MONEY! HOLLA

Griffin wont be broadcasted right? so I have to stay on this site to find out the winner? R they fighting right now?

Lesnar in the 1st baby! KO, BANG&BAKE iz takin OVA!

Extra Money just to pay Brock. He will go down.

The UFC buys 3 hour blocks for their Pay Per Views.
 Where UFC has to show all entrances, all the time in between fights, and everything else that happens, Pride can edit out many entrances, and dead-time so they can fill that time on the North American PPV with more matches. Pride’s Bushido show often has 10 matches or more and they can show most of them in the time aloud because of editing.

There is plenty of time to show the fights if they would cut out all the hype packages and talking. The spend enough time building up the fights before the event, so there is no need to waste time with hype packages on event night. I also don’t need them to waste time speculating on fights I am going to see on event night. I have already heard their predictions and frankly don’t want to hear them wasting broadcast time on it.

i need big timmy to pull suttin off

ufc all access waz dope 2. i didn’t think Lesnar would train like that, but who cares what Kurt Angle thinks, really?

Griffin wont be broadcasted right? so I have to stay on this site to find out the winner? R they fighting right now?

Griffin fight still hasn’t started

looking for the Tim & Brock show to start!

i need big timmy to pull suttin off

Is he the ref for a match with a guy named ‘suttin’?? Why would he need to pull “suttin” off???? You kids with you’re slang and bad spelling…I love it.

Griffin will be broadcast. I think its the swing bout.

Oh Ok, good looking Mania.

Is he the ref for a match with a guy named ‘suttin’?? Why would he need to pull “suttin” off???? You kids with you’re slang and bad spelling…I love it.

dn’t forget playa we got that 20 on it get ready to pay me.

dn’t forget playa we got that 20 on it get ready to pay me.

pay u? if u ask nicely, i’ll let u get a ride home now & then!!! haha LOL

playing poker online too’
love that money

i thought u said it was 10, but thats fine, i’ll take 20 from u, its cool

white rhino,
send me an email and let me know where u r playin poker at

Lesnar by F5 off top of octagon in 1st round after Sable hits Mir with a steel chair

i thought u said it was 10, but thats fine, i’ll take 20 from u, its cool

i said ever event since where not just beting on one fight now we just got 20on the total an i think i mite that this home tonight

i said ever event since where not just beting on one fight now we just got 20on the total an i think i mite that this home tonight

265 lbs.: Tim Sylvia WINS
265 lbs: Brock Lesnar WINS
185 lbs.: Nate Marquardt WINS
155 lbs Gleison Tibau WINS
170 lbs.: Chris Lytle WINS
185 lbs.: Terry Martin WINS
155 lbs.: Keita Nakamura WINS

265 lbs.: Tim Sylvia WINS
265 lbs: Brock Lesnar WINS
185 lbs.: Nate Marquardt WINS
155 lbs Gleison Tibau WINS
170 lbs.: Chris Lytle WINS
185 lbs.: Terry Martin WINS
155 lbs.: Keita Nakamura WINS

dude, Nakamura and Martin already lost? who r u? where r u from? have u been reading anything on this site? dude….please….nevermind

1st round of Griffin fight close, but Griffin ahead on all cards 10-9

excellent second round for griffin

good fight, Griffin got the second round also, 10-9 on all cards

Maybe someone can have something INTELLEGENT to say about the fights they are watching, instead of things like….
“I just won 50 dollars”
“I just lost 50 dollars”
“I didn’t think that would happen”…
ect.
ect.
ect.
Add something to the conversation, don’t just post mindless garbage to see yourself in print.

pokerstars.com
just left bout to play call of duty unless you going over there an than i’ll stay just to bust your s h i *t

FIGHT UPDATE: Tyson Griffin defeats Gleison Tibau via unanimous decision

so anyway,
looks like i’m losing $50 more, thats ok. Gonna take it back w/ interest by the end of the night. I’m talking bout whatever i want man, u wanna hate, then hate, i aint gonna stop a hater from hatin, thats a hater’s job, know what i’m saying. besides, aint a whole lotta talkin anyway

pokerstars.com
just left bout to play call of duty unless you going over there an than i’ll stay just to bust your s

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na, do what u do? this is updating slowly anyway. i no u r smokin suttin, no i’m blazing too, u readin what these dudes b sayin?

FIGHT UPDATE: Ricardo Almeida defeats Rob Yundt via submission (guillotine choke) in round one

it really dosen’t bother me cause at the end of the night were all going to shut down log off like every body else.just like i put my 500 dollar pair of jeans on with my assistant one leg at a time like everyone else

I love smoking weed. It makes time stretch out and the good times can last forever. Ahhh, the benefits of medical marijuana. I love living in the Bay Area where you can get a card to legally smoke weed without any real medical reason. Oh, yeah, that last fight was pretty fast paced and action packed. I’m suprised Tibau put on such a good show.

so far im glad lytle won, maybe someday he can get out of the firehouse, win some big money.

Maybe someone can have something INTELLEGENT to say about the fights they are watching, instead of things like….
“I just won 50 dollars”
“I just lost 50 dollars”
“I didn’t think that would happen”…
ect.
ect.
ect.
Add something to the conversation, don’t just post mindless garbage to see yourself in print.

Hey, I’m doing laundry right now and I just found a dollar in my pocket. Sweet. ;)

Kidding. I myself have nothing intelligent to say and I didn’t pay for the fights tonight. Even though it didn’t look like a good card, I feel like I’m going thru fight- withdrawal or something…wish I could see the fights. I’m curious how Brock Lesnar will do. I hope Tim Sylvia loses. I don’t understand why more guys can’t figure him out, like Randy did. I wish he’d just go away, he’s such a boring fighter. Am I being a hater? Maybe.

Silvia is kinda a like him hate him guy, I like him cause everyone he’s beaten I hated, lesser of evils. I agree bad card but I’d like to see it anyway. That’s cool about the dollar you found.

Cant believe Horn lost. Not 2 good right now. Nate showed me something.

Here we go!!!!!!!
Frank Mir is about to get knocked out

well,Sylvia isn’t the most charismatic fighter in the ufc, and thats an understatement, but I like him at least as a fighter. He’s pretty fast for a guy his size, well rounded, maybe just a little misunderstood. No one likes when a fighter makes excuse of an injury for losing. I don’t hold it against him though.

Lets hope this is a great fight, one way or the other. I just think that there is no way that Mir will outwork Lesnar in this fight. Anything can happen, but if Mir gets in the guard and tries the triangle, i’m looking for the “Rampage vs Arona Powerbomb TKO”. I can’t wait to see how many buys this PPV will get. If Brock can win in impressive fashion, and string together a few more victories, then he will hands down be the biggest draw in the UFC. I’m looking forward to this.

frank mir is too smart to get knocked out, Mir by submission, Silvia win by tko.

Whos wining the lesnar fight?

Mir wins by kneebar.

Great to see Mir win again

What was the time on that? Anyone know?

ok, how about the Tim show?

does anyone have the time that mir won in or a break down of it

I’m tellin ya.

How quick was it? Did Lesnar do anything? How did he look?

One rookie mistake and reckless agression, Good showing by Brock all things considered. Just not enough experience to counter.

Lesnar was absolutely destroying Mir until that kneebar. I see him fighting a few less skilled opponents then asking for a rematch

Big Nog wins by guillotine!!

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu FTW!! Great subs by Mir and Nog.

over,silvia lost buy guillitine choke.

7 out of 9 fights tonight, not bad at all

I knew it was gonna be like this, Lesnar comes out pounding but the experience of Mir would bite him in the ass, or knee if you will. I definitely see lesnar doing a lot more fights then going for a rematch as well. He was damn close this time, I think hell get him next time.

265 lbs.: Tim Sylvia WINS
265 lbs: Brock Lesnar WINS
185 lbs.: Nate Marquardt WINS
155 lbs Gleison Tibau WINS
170 lbs.: Chris Lytle WINS
185 lbs.: Terry Martin WINS
155 lbs.: Keita Nakamura WINS

My predictions sucked!

Noguera the “COMEBACK KID” What a fight!

Better card next time, I hope.

ha, i hate to say i said so, but alot of people here were praising lesnars strenght, mir had no chance to submit him, i said it in earlier posts, strenght does not beat skill, mir poved dat again 2nite! as for lesnar, didnt like the comments bout couture he made, however he did step up, tall task facing a former champ in just his second fight, would have liked to have seen him against another wrestler/striker, dosent look like a guy who will lay and pray, who knows tho?? prob would have won if he tagged in either angle/undertaker or austin for a handicap match against mir, lesnar wins via chairshot at 2;47 in da 2nd!!!

Wanna know why you had to buck up $44.95 for this lame card??? Brock Lesner was paid considerably higher than any other fighter tonight in his first televised ppv fight. Grand total for tonight for Mr. Lesner…$450,000. Not bad for a guy whos been around for what amounts to a 15 minute coffee break.

How is Tyson Griffin not televised? Every fight that dude is in is bad ass?

he was televised

Wow Nog had hell finishing Tim and isn’t this the same guy that went the distance twice with Fedor and isn’t Tim the Guy that was dominated by Randy the Natural Couture? IMO if Randy and Fedor happens Randy will probably dominate. So to all you Fedor lovers I’m making my prediction right now. If Randy and Fedor happens, Randy wins by decision.

I would much rather watch Tyson Griffin over Alan Belcher.

Belcher was a lot of fun to watch, actually.
I can’t wait to see Lesner again. A little more experience with those BJJ fighters, and he will DESTROY heavy weights. Everyone notice how excited the crowd got when he said he was just getting started.
Shoot, he was getting booed all night, then he showed amazing class after his loss and promised more good fights. The crowd loved it…and now we can’t wait to see him again.

Wanna know why you had to buck up $44.95 for this lame card???

Brock Lesner was paid considerably higher than any other fighter tonight in his first televised ppv fight. Grand total for tonight for Mr. Lesner…$450,000. Not bad for a guy whos been around for what amounts to a 15 minute coffee break.

lesnar only got 250000 for this fight another 200000 to win which he didnt

Pride now holds three UFC belts that should shut all the UFC guys up that Pride was a more talented organization

its about time marvin eastman wins a fight even if it was by decision! brock lesner def. proved to me thast i would not want him to hit me in the face! horray for mir! by the way could someone fill me in on randys status? i keep hearing different storys

I thought that Mir would submit Brock but I never would have thought Brock would have been so dominant right off the bat. Lesnar did lose but he is kind of like Houston Alexander, he is just a ground game away from the promise land and everyone can hate all they want but brock is gonna be a contender in a few years and at thirty years old and his training camp all he can do is progress. He proved that he is more than just a WWE circus clown. The guy is the real deal and he is good for the sport and love it or hate it he is going to be here for a long time!

Next up, Lesner vs……Cro Cop? Gonzaga? Eddie Sanchez? Soa Palelei? Arlovski?

Brock is an animal. I dont think Frank would want to take him on again. This guy will hurt some people bad. Congrads to Frank!

I bet on every event and my style is to usually pick 2 or 3 of the main fights and throw a couple hundred dollars on each of them. Doing this I built up my betting account rather nicely so I am basically betting with the houses money at all the events.
I didnt like any of the fights on this event, so I decided to have some fun tonight and bet on everysingle fight but bet real small because I am not confident about any of these fights so I bet at leats $25 on every single fights but I bet $50 on the few I felt more confident about main. I will never use this method again, but I said what the hell, lets abandon my normal method and have some fun tonight. I cant bet how I normally et because There arent 3 fights that I feel comfortable enough betting hundreds of dollars on. With that said I just decided to have a lil fun tonight and try something different. My bets are:
Emerson $50
Eastman $25
Boetsh $25
Lytie $25
Griffin $25
Nate

$50
Mir

$25
Nogueira $25

Nice, looks like youve done well financialy tonight

The truth is Mir needed to win this fight more than Brock did and Brock just needed to look good(he did). So everything worked out.

Wow Nog had hell finishing Tim and isn’t this the same guy that went the distance twice with Fedor and isn’t Tim the Guy that was dominated by Randy the Natural Couture? IMO if Randy and Fedor happens Randy will probably dominate. So to all you Fedor lovers I’m making my prediction right now. If Randy and Fedor happens, Randy wins by decision.

loooool!!!!

WAR NOG!!! FEDOR is #1!!!!

loooool!!!!

WAR NOG!!! FEDOR is #1!!!!

amazing how a fight can change in an instant… mir and nog were getting destroyed and both came back with submisions. great fights. brock and tim both looked good too.

Randy is #1!!!!! looks like Randy gave Tim more of a war than Nog did. Get off of Russian balls, vote for Captain America!

I fully disagree with you… Randy went to a dicision with Tim… Plus, Tim wasn’t in his best shape when he fought Randy

and btw Radny should fight Nog now, not Fedor…

I fully disagree with you… Randy went to a dicision with Tim… Plus, Tim wasn’t in his best shape when he fought Randy

Lesner kicked mir’s ass. ground and pound K.O in the first round.Complete domination Brock Lesner is the best fighter in MMA. WWE will take over UFC

True, Randy went to a decision with Tim but Tim had Rocked him in the first round and don’t give me that shit saying Tim wasn’t in the best of shape if he was hurt he shouldn’t have taken the fight. Randy was well prepared for Tim and he was training with guys Tim’s size. So just except the facts, Fedor hasn’t fought anyone like Randy and I’ve seen Fedor’s training. I’ve seen boxers train harder than Fedor so That forty year old man is going to win if the fight happens.

I very doubt that :) Plus, Nog is more skilled than Randy

BTW, why should Randy have to beat Nog then Fedor? So he will be that much older when he fights Fedor? F**K that! I realize Fedor was offered a BS contract by the UFC but every fighter that ever gave him a run for his money is in the UFC. Cro cop(who nearly beat Gaydor) has done nothing. Nog(who got lucky this time and nearly lost to HH) hasn’t done much. So the bottom line is Fedor wouldn’t make it in the UFC and the contract stipulations were a real good Excuse!

My favorite Pride fighter would have to be Dan Henderson or Wanderlei Silva. IMO Fedor was never as exciting as these guys were and in The Pride Days There is no telling witch fighters were juicing because they didn’t test for roids.

Well I made every best effort I could to watch these fights but ultimately was led a stray by the punani. foock, I regret it now..

Randy vs Nog! I’ve wanted that fight for a long time now.

Wow Nog had hell finishing Tim and isn’t this the same guy that went the distance twice with Fedor and isn’t Tim the Guy that was dominated by Randy the Natural Couture? IMO if Randy and Fedor happens Randy will probably dominate. So to all you Fedor lovers I’m making my prediction right now. If Randy and Fedor happens, Randy wins by decision.

Yes, but Fedor had trouble with Ricardo Arona, Arona got wasted by Rampage, Rampage got destroyed by Wanderlie twice, Wanderlie got beat by Liddel, and Liddel knocked out Randy, but Liddel was knocked out twice by Page. Since Wandy beat Rampage 2x, and Page beat Liddel 2x, If you follow the logic, Wandy is better than Liddel, concluding that Fedor will destroy Randy. You can quote me on that.

where were u u guys watching the fight? cause the show i saw had 6 fights on the main card.

Hey, Where is Pete? Pete, where are you and what happened to your boy Lesnar?

Hey Pete, you said to come and talk to you afterwards.

WAR MIR!!!!!!!!

What happened to Genki Sudo!!!

WAR NOG!!! FEDOR is #1!!!!

Fedor is a sissy. He’d even run away from Tim Silvia. “It would be a bad match-up.” Meaning: I’d lose.

My favorite Pride fighter would have to be Dan Henderson or Wanderlei Silva. IMO Fedor was never as exciting as these guys were and in The Pride Days There is no telling witch fighters were juicing because they didn’t test for roids.

Fedor was never exciting??? lol :) What’s wrong with you man? Russians are not bad ppl and COLD WAR is over if you didn’t know

Yes, but Fedor had trouble with Ricardo Arona, Arona got wasted by Rampage, Rampage got destroyed by Wanderlie twice, Wanderlie got beat by Liddel, and Liddel knocked out Randy, but Liddel was knocked out twice by Page. Since Wandy beat Rampage 2x, and Page beat Liddel 2x, If you follow the logic, Wandy is better than Liddel, concluding that Fedor will destroy Randy. You can quote me on that.

You forgot to mention Lindland :))) Rampage had a hard time with him while Fedor… well you know… :)

Didn’t Horn learn how to fight from Pat Miletich?

It was to my understanding that he was the JJ guy for Miletich. I am not sure but though.

looking for the Tim & Brock show to start!

… and the name of the show is, “How to Lose By Submission”. Crap! Congrats to Frank & Nog.

Yes, but Fedor had trouble with Ricardo Arona, Arona got wasted by Rampage, Rampage got destroyed by Wanderlie twice, Wanderlie got beat by Liddel, and Liddel knocked out Randy, but Liddel was knocked out twice by Page. Since Wandy beat Rampage 2x, and Page beat Liddel 2x, If you follow the logic, Wandy is better than Liddel, concluding that Fedor will destroy Randy. You can quote me on that

MMA Math 101 is a bitch, how do you study for this?

Nice, looks like youve done well financialy tonight

OMG, I was on FIRE last night! I bet everysingle fight except the almeida fight because I couldnt find odds on that fight. I won eversingle bet! I won 8 out of 8 bets last night! Forget Randy’s picks, I am the new betting Guru. IMO the key to betting on an mma event is to identify the upsets. In todays mma, you are garenteed to see a couple upsets. Its important and easy to identify the upsets.

Randy needs to man up and fight Nogueira. Bigf Nog called him out last night and I dont think Randy could beat him. He needs to shut up about the Fedor fight because its Randy’s fault and not Dana’s that we dont get to see Randy vs. Fedor. If Randy really wanted to fight Fedor he should have accepted that figjht with BODOG (who offered him 3 million to fight Fedor) before Randy returned to the UFC to fighth Fedor. With that said Randy Man up because the UFC has a real Heavyweight champion! One that has been ranked higher then Couture since 2003. Randy needs to step up and fight Big Nog, the UFC Champion!

Keep talking trash about Pride guys! Now the 3 heavyiest weight classes have a PRIDE fighter as Champion:
HW:Nogueira
LHW: Rampage
MW: Anderson Silva

All Pride guys with the exception of Cro cop, have won their 2nd UFC fights.

Frank Mir is the man for handling his biz and setting it srtaight against a poser in it for the money. True MMA guys knew just how it would go and it went just like it did. Frank took it to give it. wwe forever sucks.

Frank Mir is the man for handling his biz and setting it srtaight against a poser in it for the money. True MMA guys knew just how it would go and it went just like it did. Frank took it to give it. wwe forever sucks.

Yeah!! What happened to Bob Sapp?

Dana bring back Genki Sudo!! Or put him on the next Ultimate fighter.

lesnar should have known better than to fight frank mitt

OMG, I was on FIRE last night! I bet everysingle fight except the almeida fight because I couldnt find odds on that fight. I won eversingle bet! I won 8 out of 8 bets last night! Forget Randy’s picks, I am the new betting Guru. IMO the key to betting on an mma event is to identify the upsets. In todays mma, you are garenteed to see a couple upsets. Its important and easy to identify the upsets.

Randy needs to man up and fight Nogueira. Bigf Nog called him out last night and I dont think Randy could beat him. He needs to shut up about the Fedor fight because its Randy’s fault and not Dana’s that we dont get to see Randy vs. Fedor. If Randy really wanted to fight Fedor he should have accepted that figjht with BODOG (who offered him 3 million to fight Fedor) before Randy returned to the UFC to fighth Fedor. With that said Randy Man up because the UFC has a real Heavyweight champion! One that has been ranked higher then Couture since 2003. Randy needs to step up and fight Big Nog, the UFC Champion!

Keep talking trash about Pride guys! Now the 3 heavyiest weight classes have a PRIDE fighter as Champion:
HW:Nogueira
LHW: Rampage
MW: Anderson Silva

All Pride guys with the exception of Cro cop, have won their 2nd UFC fights.

It was to my understanding that he was the JJ guy for Miletich. I am not sure but though.

Hey UFC…

SHOW ALL THE F*CKING FIGHTS!!!!!

I don’t get it. I will never understand why ALL the fights on the card aren’t televised. Are they saving the un-televised fights for SpikeTV UFC Unleashed or for cheap Christmas DVD box sets? This is ridiculous.

It would be robery if the Tibau/Griffin fight isn’t televised. How the heck are you going to make these undercard matches, and not give those fighters television exposure by putting them on the PPV? Most of the undercard fighters are journey men or up and comers that would benefit greatly from that kind of exposure. Plus, the fans can get to learn more about these guys, become familiar with them, and can be fans of those fighters in other UFC events.

We’re already paying for the programming. I’m sure the fans who’ve paid for the PPV wouldn’t mind if it went 5 hours to get those extra fights.

If the UFC isn’t listening, I hope Mark Cuban is!

I totally agree, they left out one fight Eastman vs Martin and it was two big names but they showed the Emerson vs Nakamura fight, I don’t get it!! They should show all fights, props buddy!!

Would someone please explain what this means?

Lesner kicked mir’s ass. ground and pound K.O in the first round.Complete domination Brock Lesner is the best fighter in MMA. WWE will take over UFC

What fight did u watch?

The UFC buys 3 hour blocks for their Pay Per Views. This is a very common “event” amount of time. Boxing matches, movies, and concerts buy this amount of time to air their material. Pride’s North American PPVs are also in this format. The UFC schedules fight according to their time limit. They do so depending on how many non-title fights(3 rounds, 5 minutes each) and title fights(5 rounds, 5 minutes each). So 4 scheduled PPVs is usually the average amount of “scheduled fights” on a card. This means, if the four fights go to a judge’s decision, there is still enough time for all fights to be aired. One of the biggest disasters a fight promoter can have is the PPV coverage cutting out in the middle of a main event.

Many UFC PPVs have more then 4 fights. What often happens is a fight gets over before a judges decision so there is more time available. The UFC prepares for this in 2 ways:

The Swing Fight: The UFC will have a fight tentatively scheduled. If the other fights end quickly, that fight is then aired on the PPV and takes place live. The UFC usually places their swing fight between the co-main and the main event. Many other combat sports have “Swing Fights.” You can see many examples of “swing fights” on the show “Friday Night Fights,” HBO’s “Boxing After Dark” or most boxing PPVs. If their is no time for the swing fight on the PPV, the fight will take place after the main event and will not air on the PPV broadcast. A “swing fight” has never been held after a main event in the UFC.

Airing of prelim fights: A very convenient way for the UFC to fill PPV time is show tapes of prelim matches that occurred on the card before the matches that aired on PPV. This happens when fights on the main card end quickly. This allows the UFC to show fights that a) are the most exciting from the prelims b.) fit in the allowed time. A prelim match might end in the first round and could fill time at the end of a PPV where a full match could not.

Having 4 scheduled fights is not a way to rip you off. This is common practice in combat sports and a common move from the Zuffa era of the UFC. Most of the cards have some sort of “filler” match since rarely do all fights go to a Judge’s Decision. Critics of 4 scheduled fights are often fighting for the wrong cause since the card UFC 58 had only 5 matches but had more actual fighting shown then UFC 53 that showed 8 fights, and Pride’s “Total Elimination Absolute” which showed 8 fights. UFC 58 with its 5 matches had 65minutes and 1 second of fighting. UFC with its 8 fights had 54 minutes and 24 seconds of fighting. Pride’s ’Total Elimination Absolute" had 57 minutes and 55 seconds of fighting.

For UFC 46(Couture vs Vitor II) the UFC did NOT show any filler fights. This made many people mad since the fights on the show went very fast and there was about 40 minutes left of PPV time when they went of the air. On top of this, the main event was a huge let down with Randy getting his eye cut in a ab-normal incident very early in round one. Many people did e-mail campaigns showing their disgust, and shortly after, the UFC started showing as many fight on PPV as they could once again.

The reason why Pride often shows more fights then the UFC is because Pride is not live when it is shown on the North American broadcast. It is on what is called a “tape delay.” This delay happens because of the time zone difference between Japan and North America. If Pride was to broadcast live in North America, the event would air at 3 a.m. Instead, they delay it till prime time 18 hours later. This gives Pride time to edit the show. Where UFC has to show all entrances, all the time in between fights, and everything else that happens, Pride can edit out many entrances, and dead-time so they can fill that time on the North American PPV with more matches. Pride’s Bushido show often has 10 matches or more and they can show most of them in the time aloud because of editing.

Well I’d say your wrong on a few counts. For as long as I can remember there has always been 5 guarenteed to be shown PPV fights on UFC cards and Pride did show all the fights even if you watched it live. (I watched the Las Vegas Pride show live and they showed all 9 fights) I also like how you use terms like tape delay like you are some sort of scientist using terms that the common man wouldn’t know. I think we all know what a tape delay is bud.

With the addition of pride fighters comming to ufc,and prices going up, number of fights going down on ppv. I think dana white and the owners of ufc are on some bullsh*t. Come on you guys are trying to make more money. That’s fine we’ll give the money but give us 10 really good fights every card. AND…….. CREATE THE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION so that way there are six titles and two titles defended every ppv and the titles shots are rotated every three ppv’s It’s not like you dont have enough fighters to do this. Oh brock is going to punish mir. Mir lost a tune up fight when he returned, in fact his face was super bloody and dizzy looking. Brock made his first opponent tap while being in the full mount. In like 30 seconds. This might be the fastest heavyweight fight in ufc history

Most actual mma fans knew that if Mir came in focused and in shape it would be quick fight – Mr. WWF/WWE/WWWhatever would bull rush – leave a limb hanging out and the former champ would twist it like a paperclip till the roid king cried like the fake fighter he is. What was really fun was watching the rastlin fans leave the club I watched the fight in right after “losin lesnar” lost. True joy. Guess they were hoping someone would toss muscles a folding chair…Way to go Frank Mir – now go get the belt back.

Well I’d say your wrong on a few counts. For as long as I can remember there has always been 5 guarenteed to be shown PPV fights on UFC cards and Pride did show all the fights even if you watched it live. (I watched the Las Vegas Pride show live and they showed all 9 fights) I also like how you use terms like tape delay like you are some sort of scientist using terms that the common man wouldn’t know. I think we all know what a tape delay is bud.

GEEZ why so pissed at the guy, he was just trying to give information he did say in his next post:

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