Good for Joe. I’m sure he’ll come back just as hungry as ever.

That picture is classic.

save up your energy, you got a date with Nate Diaz next.

SICK!!

I wonder if it was able to patch it up better..ive never seen a cut that bad in boxing..then again they dont get elbowed in the forehead..

He deserves the rest. BJ is definitely one of the best pound for pound fighters out there and was the only guy in that division to give Stevenson a hard time. I’d like to see him face Franky Edgar. But, then again, I’m from central Jersey.

he will give anyone in the devision a tough fight(except b.j.)

wow, his head looks like my girlfriend on her period

BAD NEWS: UFC 83 is canceled

How can Joe think he did good? Well, he didn’t. He did horrible, he clearly respected BJ too much. It’s a big disadvantage when you look up to your opponent; look at GSP vs. Hughes I. I’m actually a fan of Stevenson’s, but he should have done a lot better against BJ and I think he should have to win several fights before being considered for another title shot.

wow, his head looks like my girlfriend on her period

your an idiot, and judging by that comment the only snatch you have ever seen is the one in your crusty magazine under your mattress of your spiderman bed!

BAD NEWS: UFC 83 is canceled

Huh??

How can Joe think he did good? Well, he didn’t. He did horrible, he clearly respected BJ too much. It’s a big disadvantage when you look up to your opponent; look at GSP vs. Hughes I. I’m actually a fan of Stevenson’s, but he should have done a lot better against BJ and I think he should have to win several fights before being considered for another title shot.

I agree. I don’t think he was ever in that fight. I don’t know if he looked up to BJ too much or anything, but he was clearly out classed in every aspect.

How can Joe think he did good? Well, he didn’t. He did horrible, he clearly respected BJ too much. It’s a big disadvantage when you look up to your opponent; look at GSP vs. Hughes I. I’m actually a fan of Stevenson’s, but he should have done a lot better against BJ and I think he should have to win several fights before being considered for another title shot.

  Agreed, doesn’t he realize it was a completely one sided fight?, penn kicked his arse pretty bad, kind of humiliating to me.

I wonder if it was able to patch it up better..ive never seen a cut that bad in boxing..then again they dont get elbowed in the forehead..

Dude,

Did you watch the Forrest v. Shogun?

Dude you could see forrests SKULL through his forhead bro.. Joe’s cut wasnt that bad.. Ive seen worse…

Looks photo shopped… How dare you mania!!!! lol jm.

your an idiot, and judging by that comment the only snatch you have ever seen is the one in your crusty magazine under your mattress of your spiderman bed!

wow lawrence, you have a great sense of humor!

HAHA

Dude,

Did you watch the Forrest v. Shogun?

Dude you could see forrests SKULL through his forhead bro.. Joe’s cut wasnt that bad.. Ive seen worse…

Looks photo shopped… How dare you mania!!!! lol jm.

True..but that cut didnt explode like a geyzer..maybe Forrest’s cutman actually knew what he was doing?

Joe did good for what he has to work with right now. BJ just seemed a couple yrs ahead of him in his mma training.
I Would like to see Joe fight Huerta.

What a photo. Reminds me of Kill Bill or Sweeney Todd. Maybe they should call BJ “the demon barber of fight street,” and Joe “O’l Bloody Faithful.”

I think Joe would of done much better had it not been for the cut. BJ looked supper gassed and Joe was very energetic for a blood sprinkler in the 2nd. I think Joe has nothing to be ashamed of he has the heart of a GREAT.

I mean how can you not like Joe Stevenson or even talk smack about him.

Joe’s head looked like a sprinkler.

I got mad respect for Joe.

But, BJ said it best: Joe your a good fighter, but it’s a bad time to fight BJ Penn.

No offense to Joe S. But for him to say that the fight was getting better and better for him is, well, hilarious.

What fight did he watch?? Maybe his trainers did some good photoshoping on 1 of his older fight vids. They didnt want him to see how he was manhandled for the ENTIRE fight.

BJ dominated Joe for every minute of that fight. It was a great job by BJ

Dude,

Did you watch the Forrest v. Shogun?

Dude you could see forrests SKULL through his forhead bro.. Joe’s cut wasnt that bad.. Ive seen worse…

Looks photo shopped… How dare you mania!!!! lol jm.

I don’t think so. Smaller cuts tend top spew out further than bigger cuts. It’s like when you put you finger over a hose to make it squirt further. Smaller hole, more pressure, yada yada yada.

And to comment on whoever said that Joe’s cut reminded him of is girlfriend…..

If I EVER seen a girl bleed like that during her period. I may have to quit having sex. And if your girlfriend bleeds like that, dude you better get her to a gynecologist and QUICKLY……because there is something seriously wrong and probably close to death

worst cut ever…Marvin Eastman..hands down. his cut was so bad we could see what he was thinking!! BOOYAAA

I don’t think so. Smaller cuts tend top spew out further than bigger cuts. It’s like when you put you finger over a hose to make it squirt further. Smaller hole, more pressure, yada yada yada.

Right.. a person is just a bag of blood and skin, if you puncture it, it just shoots out. So if you ever cut yourself and want to stop or reduce the bleeding, just open the cut a little more and relieve the stress of the blood stream…yada …yada…comment of the day

Right.. a person is just a bag of blood and skin, if you puncture it, it just shoots out. So if you ever cut yourself and want to stop or reduce the bleeding, just open the cut a little more and relieve the stress of the blood stream…yada …yada…comment of the day

Right.. a person is just a bag of blood and skin, if you puncture it, it just shoots out. So if you ever cut yourself and want to stop or reduce the bleeding, just open the cut a little more and relieve the stress of the blood stream…yada …yada…comment of the dayNo you idiot, I’m not talking about the amount of blood that pours out of it, I’m talking about the distance it can shoot out of you. The fact that it was a smaller cut, plus the pressure BJ was putting on his head, caused the blood to shoot out into a stream. Hence, it’s not photo-shopped.

Joe has to admit that he sucked that night like Brandon Vera did against Tim.

Does anyone know if that was Troy “Rude Boy” Mandaloniz from TUF 6 with BJ Penn backstage and ringside at UFC 80? I know he’s from Hilo too, but I’ve never seen him with Penn before.

Rude boy and BJ are friends. They grew up together on the big island. I believe the answer to your question is yes and yes.

Another comment on Joe’s thought of his performance. If Joe thought it was getting better and better…..then I would not want to see a fight where Joe thought it was getting worse and worse

Does anyone know if that was Troy “Rude Boy” Mandaloniz from TUF 6 with BJ Penn backstage and ringside at UFC 80? I know he’s from Hilo too, but I’ve never seen him with Penn before.

I didn’t notice Troy at the fight but I do remember on TUF when Dana referred to Troy hanging with Penn when he said,
“How is it that a fighter that hangs out with one of the greated BJJ technicians ever has 0 ground game.”
(paraphrased, plus I probably omitted a couple of fbombs).

How can Joe think he did good? Well, he didn’t. He did horrible, he clearly respected BJ too much. It’s a big disadvantage when you look up to your opponent; look at GSP vs. Hughes I. I’m actually a fan of Stevenson’s, but he should have done a lot better against BJ and I think he should have to win several fights before being considered for another title shot.

The cut never came into play. BJ was landing crunching shots and Joe had no answer at any time standing. Joe wilted on several shots and though he defended well for a while on the ground it was just a matter of time before BJ submitted him. That is the real difference between BJ and every other LW … heavy hands … no one can stand with him. Imagine when every fighter finally realizes he WANTS to take BJ to the ground … only to be submitted. BJ will have his way with everyone, Sherk and Florian included, and will win most of his fights like he beat Hughes at UFC 46 … win the standup, land a huge shot and then work for the sub. Anything can happen, but with no other fighter with true one punch KO power in the division, BJ will be the champ as long as he wants to be champ.

The cut never came into play. BJ was landing crunching shots and Joe had no answer at any time standing. Joe wilted on several shots and though he defended well for a while on the ground it was just a matter of time before BJ submitted him. That is the real difference between BJ and every other LW … heavy hands … no one can stand with him. Imagine when every fighter finally realizes he WANTS to take BJ to the ground … only to be submitted. BJ will have his way with everyone, Sherk and Florian included, and will win most of his fights like he beat Hughes at UFC 46 … win the standup, land a huge shot and then work for the sub. Anything can happen, but with no other fighter with true one punch KO power in the division, BJ will be the champ as long as he wants to be champ.

As far as I’m concerned, that cut ruined the fight. Up until that fight it was obvious that BJ was superior to Joe and was going to dominate him and maybe finish him. The question was, did he have enough gas in the tank?

Fast forwad to a glancing arcing elbow and the fight turns into a bloody gorefest. Joe had to go on the attack because he knew that the fight would be stopped by the doctor soon. This led to the eventual choke.

I think that the UFC needs to get rid of elbows to an opponent on his back (at least arcing elbows). Those strikes rarely do much to knock a guy out and often cut fights short because of a cut.

I would much rather see who could beat the other guy with their strength and technique than see who can cut the other guy worse.

To make up for the lost offensive weapon they could add kicks to a downed opponent. Those rules were some of the only ones that I liked in Pride compared to the UFC and it made for more entertaining fights.

What do y’all think.

I didn’t notice Troy at the fight but I do remember on TUF when Dana referred to Troy hanging with Penn when he said,
“How is it that a fighter that hangs out with one of the greated BJJ technicians ever has 0 ground game.”
(paraphrased, plus I probably omitted a couple of fbombs).

I think it was before the Gonzaga/Werdum fight, they showed Penn in his lockeroom shadow boxing. I swear that was Troy Mandaloniz behind him. It looked as though they were grappling or sparring moments before because RudeBoy looked to be a little out of breath. I’m pretty sure he came out with Reagan and Rudy.

I don’t think they should ban elbows. Getting cut is part of the fight game. Should they ban armbars because Mir broke Tim’s arm with it?

Craziest fight pic I have seen BJ mentioned Joe’s blood squirting out when he hit him with the Elbow

Jesse Holland:

My baDD about the voice comment in your interview with Jarry Park. I didn’t mean it to come out like that. I just imagined your voice to sound different. Sorry man.

I don’t think they should ban elbows. Getting cut is part of the fight game. Should they ban armbars because Mir broke Tim’s arm with it?

I don’t understand why Pride banned using elbows on the ground, but allowed kicking and kneeing of a downed opponent.

I think that the UFC needs to get rid of elbows to an opponent on his back (at least arcing elbows). Those strikes rarely do much to knock a guy out and often cut fights short because of a cut.

I, too, think they should eliminate elbows when an opponent is down, but I disagree about adding kicks or anything else. I like the current UFC rules, except eliminate the following:

1. Elbows to downed opponent

2. Standing fighters up – it should be the responsibility of the fighter on the bottom to better his position, not the fighter in the dominant position. I know they do this for impatient fans, but screw those fans. Lay-n-pray is dominant position whether you like it or not.

I, too, think they should eliminate elbows when an opponent is down, but I disagree about adding kicks or anything else. I like the current UFC rules, except eliminate the following:

1. Elbows to downed opponent

2. Standing fighters up – it should be the responsibility of the fighter on the bottom to better his position, not the fighter in the dominant position. I know they do this for impatient fans, but screw those fans. Lay-n-pray is dominant position whether you like it or not.

Why should they ban eliminating elbows to a downed opponent?
The J-Rock vs War Machine fight on TUF 6 showed how much it can do to help a fighter. If the UFC ever did ban it, it woud mess up a lot of fightes during matches because dropping elbows is second instinct. I totally disagree.

Hope fully BJ opens up Sherk like that. They can just scrape the mat to do the steroid test afterwards.

Also doesn’t anyone remember Calib Starnes’ cut. That was BRUTAL. You could actually see his skull. It was something like 23 stitches on the inside to patch up the meat and 23 on the outside to patch up the skin.

Hope fully BJ opens up Sherk like that. They can just scrape the mat to do the steroid test afterwards.

Also doesn’t anyone remember Calib Starnes’ cut. That was BRUTAL. You could actually see his skull. It was something like 23 stitches on the inside to patch up the meat and 23 on the outside to patch up the skin.

Yip and his corner called him a pussy and he went mental lol !!

Cuts is part and parcel of the fight game, disagree totally with getting rid of elbows anywhere in the cage. Plus kicking a downed opponent is a tad unsafe in my book, im suprised there hasnt been a string of major injuries with that rule included!!

If i saw two guys fighting in the street and one fell and the other used his head as a boucy castle id be thinking??….. Hey buddy thats harsh!!lol

ELBOWS VS. STOMPS AND SOCCER KICKS

In PRIDE, being dangerous had nothing to do with it, which is why stomps and kicks to a downed opponent were allowed, elbows were banned simply because they can end fights prematurally.

UFC is focused more on danger due to they are being overlooked by an athletic commission.

Compared to stomps and kicks to a downed opponent, elbows and cuts like that are not that dangerous at all, or harmful to ones health, definently not enough to end a fight. It’s teh blood in the eyes or blood interfering with breathing that causes the officials to end the fight win the fighter is very willing to go on.

2. Standing fighters up – it should be the responsibility of the fighter on the bottom to better his position, not the fighter in the dominant position. I know they do this for impatient fans, but screw those fans. Lay-n-pray is dominant position whether you like it or not.

Completely disagree. Remember, this is the Ultimate “Fighting” Championship. Laying on top in a dominant position can hardly be called “fighting”. Call me crazy, but I hate decision victories; you didn’t beat your opponent; you convinced a group of judges that you fought better than the other guy. But after 3 or 5 rounds if he still can and wants to go, you didn’t win the fight. Make sense?

It’s not about being exciting; it’s about beating the other guy convincingly.

Completely disagree. Remember, this is the Ultimate “Fighting” Championship. Laying on top in a dominant position can hardly be called “fighting”. Call me crazy, but I hate decision victories; you didn’t beat your opponent; you convinced a group of judges that you fought better than the other guy. But after 3 or 5 rounds if he still can and wants to go, you didn’t win the fight. Make sense?

It’s not about being exciting; it’s about beating the other guy convincingly.

I wish Sean Sherk was on this forum.

WAR BJ PENN!!!!

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Joe S. – “I think I did good. I just got cut. I think it was getting better and better for me…”

Anybody who screams “Kiaaa!!!”, “Kiiaaaa!!!” after throwing each weak-ass arm punch, while getting there ass kicked Big-Time, is a total douch-bag can.

Not only was it annoying as hell but made him look like the loser pus he is. I don’t know why everybody likes Joe S., he’s an avarage fighter at best, with no charisma or personality, and boring!

I wish Sean Sherk was on this forum.

worst cut ever…Marvin Eastman..hands down. his cut was so bad we could see what he was thinking!! BOOYAAA

Agreed! Belforts Left-Right knee to Eastman IS the worst cut in the UFC hands down.

What is Joe talking about in the interview when he said “Not one scratch on me except this one on my forehead but besides that i m fine” His entire face was busted up!! from every angle!!! There’s a reason none of BJ Penns opponents show up at the post fight press conference, they are all at the hospital, just like Joe. One scratch, HA LoL!

your an idiot, and judging by that comment the only snatch you have ever seen is the one in your crusty magazine under your mattress of your spiderman bed!

lmao… man i was gonna say some shiz but that id words out of my mouth stuff!!

that is words…

LoL why? You wanna hear how to lay and pray from the professional Heres what he tell ya “Ummm, im hella big bacause i use roids and i use my biggness to just lay on top of the other guy until time runs out, i dont even throw punches from a dominant top position i just make it look like i have good ground skills but im really just just trying to cop a feel, uhh uhhh, i dont respect BJ Penn at all even though i was on his nuts the entire broadcast of UFC 80, uhh uhhh Boo all you want i dont care uhh uhhh”

Is that you Sean??? LOL. We don’t need Sherk on here when we got adamg.. Classic mang :)

nice gieyser

Now just the HW’s need to find thier true champ.

Joe has to admit that he sucked that night like Brandon Vera did against Tim.

Vera did suck, but he had a broken hand. What’s Tim’s excuse for sucking? Joe didn’t suck, he was just out classed.

TRUE ’DAT!!! I cant wait to see BJ in the cage again!! Look at his last 4 opponents, GSP=Busted UP!, Hughes=Busted Up!, Pulver=Busted UP!, Stevenson=Busted The F*ck Up!!!! Sherk=Soon To Be Busted Up!!!

I would much rather see who could beat the other guy with their strength and technique than see who can cut the other guy worse.
 Elbows are a technique and a pretty effective one at that.

Agreed! Belforts Left-Right knee to Eastman IS the worst cut in the UFC hands down.

i think the picture is photoshoped.

I watched the fight a few times… Didnt see the blood gushing out like that…

2. Standing fighters up – it should be the responsibility of the fighter on the bottom to better his position, not the fighter in the dominant position. I know they do this for impatient fans, but screw those fans. Lay-n-pray is dominant position whether you like it or not.

I disagree. There is one reason for time limits in a fight. And that is to make it feasible as a spectator sport. There is no tactical reason to make them go to a decision. So abusing the system by laying on someone for a decision needs to be avoided. To me, it isn’t a reasonable strategic move to abuse something that wasn’t put in there for strategic reasons to begin with.

It is no different than turning your back on your opponent and running away in the final round while having a lead (which, btw, is penalized)

Joe did good for what he has to work with right now. BJ just seemed a couple yrs ahead of him in his mma training.
I Would like to see Joe fight Huerta.

 Huerta 1st round by knock out!Joe doesnt even has a hint of a chance.

Huerta 1st round by knock out!Joe doesnt even has a hint of a chance.

Like I said before who has joe daddy fought thats good????Nobody thats who!!!BJ fought the best,Renzo Gracie,Rodrigo Gracie,Jenns Pulver,Matt bumd fuck Hughes,GSP and got ripped off on that night"2 takedowns dont win a fight BUDDY"!!!!!!!!If a Gracie family member or anyone of these fighters called joe out he would shit his pants letalone win a match!When he starts fighting guys of this nature,only then would I give him some credability!Sherk-My advice is to retire now! Drugs wont help you win against BJ PENN you ROIDFREAK.

not a penn fan, cause he just dosn’t look that bad, though he is. Like to see the “king” just knock him out. Spencer Fisher.

BY the BY, War Danzig, he could possibly wake this flooded sport back onto its weary, confused, more choices than a chineese menu-feet again.

JOE sucked.

He was too respectful, vs bj you gotta lay leather on the guy. You cant let him do his magic and control the pace of the fight. It used to be a good stratagy to drag the fight out cause of his wind, now it seems you gotta lay the smack down. Stand and trade with the guy.

He was too respectful, vs bj you gotta lay leather on the guy.

That’s BS. It’s not that Joe didn’t want to take it to BJ, he couldn’t.

Like I said before who has joe daddy fought thats good????Nobody thats who!!!BJ fought the best,Renzo Gracie,Rodrigo Gracie,Jenns Pulver,Matt bumd fuck Hughes,GSP and got ripped off on that night"2 takedowns dont win a fight BUDDY"!!!!!!!!If a Gracie family member or anyone of these fighters called joe out he would shit his pants letalone win a match!When he starts fighting guys of this nature,only then would I give him some credability!Sherk-My advice is to retire now! Drugs wont help you win against BJ PENN you ROIDFREAK.

Nobody is arguing that Penn isnt better buddy. But Joe in the LW division is not bad, he is easily top ten, maybe five.

That’s BS. It’s not that Joe didn’t want to take it to BJ, he couldn’t.

Oh yeah Joe just wasnt trying his hardest. Give me a break “yikes”

wow, his head looks like my girlfriend on her period

Bro that’s just sick as hell! Just for your info…it doesn’t squirt…if flows. LOL….sick dog :)