i gess im gonna keep dreaming for it to happen in UFC

My question is “what has Randy done to become this almost mythical fighter, really?” Don’t get me wrong I love the guy but I’m starting to think more clearly in my old age.

Ya everyone wants to see this fight, but how much is hype?

Is Randy not considering BIG NOG as a valide opponent?

Honestly I believe that he needs to pull his head out of the shade an fullfill his five fight contract.

Or does his contract say FEDOR fight or forget it?

Randy is acting like a lil girl right about now…smh.

I couldn’t care less whether this fight happens in a cage or a ring. Dana had a chance to set it up and have the biggest ever UFC PPV event, but he chose not to even though it’s probably the one fight fans most wanted to see. Oh well, I guess they can keep putting trash cards together like UFC 80 and hope the fans keep buying it.

When you start to think about it, without the UFC, Randy would be making $35,000/year as a wrestling coach in his home town. He gets crushed by Chuck, retires, they bring him back to make another few million, and he is still pissed. I like watching him fight, think he is good for the sport, but come on. Without the UFC, Randy wouldnt be much of anything

The reporter was wrong when she said that UFC fans are as loyal as any fans around…

loyal to UFC, apparently so, loyal to the fighters, hell no…

We’ve seen all the people that are siding with management and not Couture…

I am so sick of people acting like the UFC did Randy a favor. When they offered him a title shot to come back, he already had a better offer from Bodog to fight Fedor. I don’t agree with sentiments that the UFC made Randy who he is, I think Randy had a lot more influence on promoting the UFC and MMA in general than people are giving him credit for. All you people that are siding with the UFC management should just shut up and keep ordering their lousy fight cards.

Tappi The UFC doesn’t own the sport of MMA
If the UFC wouldn’t have, another organization would have.
Anyways, the UFC brought him back because the fans wanted him
back

great interview
:)

when i first heard of this, someone said his best punch was harder than a pro boxer, i missunderstood hi best blow was harder than a pro boxer

I couldn’t care less whether this fight happens in a cage or a ring. Dana had a chance to set it up and have the biggest ever UFC PPV event, but he chose not to even though it’s probably the one fight fans most wanted to see. Oh well, I guess they can keep putting trash cards together like UFC 80 and hope the fans keep buying it.

In response to the first statment:
Hell yes, the UFC has been very good to RC and the fact that the UFC would not meet the silly demands and requirements of Fedor to sign him to the UFC was a good decision. We dont need the UFC being over run by a bunch of russian fighters that are not any good. UFC is leet. it had nothing to do with money, Dana would pay him anything to get him to fight in the UFC, it was Fedors other crap. Siging all kinds of crap fighters to the UFC and letting Fedor fight outside the UFC. Dana W made a good BUSSINESS decision not signing him. In the long run it was a good decision.

In response to the second statment:
Dude… Everyone thinks Dana W screwed this all up. No. Fedor did. RC is not totally to blame however, he needs to not act like a little spoiled bratt who gets everything they want, and when they are told no they flip out and act like an idiot. Like he is doing now. Randy left his fans in the dust becasue of a stupid goal: To prove 40 year olds can take a punch? WE KNOW YOUR OLD, YOU CAN STOP REMINDING US. RC had an obligation to his contract, and an obligation to his fans. Also, you made a comment about how we can now continue putting to gether trash card like UFC 80… DUDE Randy C WAS NOT THE UFC BRO!! He was one fighter… sheesh. I guess nobody else fights in the UFC..

Randy is acting like a lil girl right about now…smh.

THANK U…IVE BEEN SAYIN THAT ON THIS WEBSITE FO AWHILE WE NEED TO QUIT TALKIN ABOUT CRY BABY RANDY DANA PROVED HIM TO BE A LIAR…JUS GO WAY RANDY AND TAKE UR GOLD DIGGER WIFE WIT U

I couldn’t care less about this fight right now. Randy needs to quit being a bitch and fight his remaining two fights on his deal. What? is he afraid that in 2 fights he’s going to be done and he’ll have nothing left for that third fight — presumably against Fedor? C’mon Randy, quit being a little bitch.

Poor Poor Randy, I mean has he not met with attorneys yet? He clearly hasn’t. The court ordered Ricky Williams to PAY 8 Million dollars when he “retired” before his contract was up. Randy a Contract is LEGAL DOCUMENT, ok get that? You did not honor yours, and are under the impression that when it expires you’re free. WRONG. If that Contract did not have a clause stating that YOU WERE ALLOWED to retire without having to fulfill the required fights, you my friend in deep sh*t. The Judge will squash you and make you look stupid and ignorant. The UFC sued you for a reason and they will seek indictments against you, you will pay for the damages you caused the company and the only way you and Fedor fight is in your dreams.

That chick asking Randy the questions was kinda hot.

You really think the UFC would be the same without having Randy Couture the last ten years? You’re dreaming if you really believe that. The heavyweight division was weak when he came out of retirement, and remains that way today. As far as any obligation Randy has to the UFC or its fans, well if internet forums like this are any indication….if I were Randy I wouldn’t give a crap about catering to bunch who are quick to turn on him.

Actually I dont know what to think about this. Firs HE complained about the fact that they were going to bring Fedor and he was going to get a paycheck He had never gotten before.Second He said that THE UFC did not let this fight happen and I assumed one of the reasons was because these people were asking too much money to sign Fedor with the UFC.Dana did not pay Fedor and his people what they wanted to get.Randy complained about not making this fight happen. I wonder, who does Randy think he is?If you want to do what you want, go do it in your company.Honor your contract and your fans by doing what you signed.If it wasnt for the UFC WHAT WOULD HE BE?He said that he had a better fight with bodog for I do not know how much. Why did you sign another contract with the UFC and said he was not happy with it?

Randy had GOOD contract with the UFC. I’m sure that when he signed his current contract, Dana was telling him they were gonna get Fedor for him if he could beat Silvia.
But the fact of the matter is, what ever is in the written contract is what you ar obligated to follow. Verbal agrreements are worthless when a written contract is signed.
You know what Randy, shyt happens! The UFC obviously tried to get Fedor but couldn’t.
If Fedor was such a deal breaker for Randy, it should have been in his contract.
And now what it comes down to is real men stand behind the word. Randy is crap for not fulfilling his contract obligations. He is low down and untrustworthy.

I still say that I’d like to see Randy fight Tim again. I would really like to know if Randy was aware of Tim’s injury when he came out of retirement and seized an opportunity to fight a less than 100% opponent and become the champion. Would the fight have been different if Tim was healthy? If Tim was smart, he would have dropped out of that fight after he got injured.

VNDK8 very valid points and I dont think the result would be that one sided of there was a rematch. Randy will not fight Tim again for two reasons:

- He may loose and this would come out
- He is getting old, he only has such a limited time left

I really think the latter is driving this push to fight Fedor. He wants to leave his legacy. Surely, all you wankers who bag him can see this. Its not about the money, the UFC, its about knowing he has fought the very best so he can rest peaceful when he dies.

I wish the UFC and M1 could put this thing together. I understand the UFC doesn’t want to risk having their champ lose, but come on, the man is 44. There’s an excuse.

Also, if the UFC did this now, they’re not really helping M1 much. M1 is still a hack of an organization and has no really great fighters to match fedor up with.

So, even if people do start to check out m1 because of this, it doesn’t matter because….

they’re wack.

well th way it looks as of now Randy vs fedor will NOT happen.watch you guys, the ufc is gonna dick around and lose Arlovski and then whats the new BIG fightgonna be. M-1 is gonna jump all over AA and then, AA is gonna beat the living hell outta the so called best P4P in the world.Then randy will get AA left overs a year and a half from now.but who know just wait and see what happens.

I think Randy should presonally take a page out of Fedor’s book and continue to compete despite not getting that so-called “dream matchup.”

I understand if he feels like there is nothing else to prove in the UFC. But like so many of you have said…a contract is a contract. Finish it…and move on. Makes one think he might be afraid to face an experience Big Nog and not look like one of the two best heavyweights in MMA. That is the fighter who was next in line to face Randy for his title am I not right?

All this whining about Couture doesn’t make a difference at all.

Apart from the typical hard-core fan-boys (who visit MMA-Mania, Sherdog, etc), most fans don’t even care about this potential fight. Plus, most of the mainstream fans (and Press) don’t even know about Fedor Emilianko and his overrated glory days from PRIDE FC. Whether you like it or not, the MMA industry is still in its infancy. And for most fan, MMA has always been the UFC.

In the end, the UFC will continue to move on, while making a profit even without Couture.

Unless mainstream fans start beating down the door of the UFC, Couture vs Emilianko will remain a dream for the Internet & Hardcore MMA Fan-boys. Unfortunately, the hard-core fan base is a very small minority to make things happen.

My question is “what has Randy done to become this almost mythical fighter, really?” Don’t get me wrong I love the guy but I’m starting to think more clearly in my old age.

-“Captured 3 heavy weight titles and 1 light heavy weight title, only fighter in UFC to have won back that many titles and only UFC fighter to win 2 titles in 2 different weight classes… totallying a historic span of 10 years of MMA/UFC fighting. So what was that about thinking more clearly in your old age?..lol”

Ya everyone wants to see this fight, but how much is hype?

-“all big fights get lots of hype”

Is Randy not considering BIG NOG as a valide opponent?

-“He wants the number #1 fighter… he may only have 1 fight left in him.”

Honestly I believe that he needs to pull his head out of the shade an fullfill his five fight contract.

-“They’re not even suing him for his fight contract, Zuffa is suing him for his Employment Contract…. What’s this about pulling heads out of asses?”

Or does his contract say FEDOR fight or forget it?

-" sorry didn’t read the contract, can’t answer that one"

Well Fedor was being a little bitch and not accept a UFC contract. I don’t know the negotiations behind it, but I bet he wanted to be the highest paid fighter, even without stepping into the octagon. But I do feel a man has to be a man and meet his obligations (contract). I see where RC is coming from, but just bc Fedor couldn’t get enough character, put the $$ aside for a sec, and fight RC. Fedor will get paid, but pro sports now is a damn business, and as time passes, the LOVE for the sport diminishes… A half ass baseball player could get $11 million for two yrs. I just want to see hunger, dignity, and heart in the octagon anytime. Big Nog is just as good a fight as Fedor? Oh well, in the long run, we the fans lose….

All this whining about Couture doesn’t make a difference at all.

Apart from the typical hard-core fan-boys (who visit MMA-Mania, Sherdog, etc), most fans don’t even care about this potential fight. Plus, most of the mainstream fans (and Press) don’t even know about Fedor Emilianko and his overrated glory days from PRIDE FC. Whether you like it or not, the MMA industry is still in its infancy. And for most fan, MMA has always been the UFC.

In the end, the UFC will continue to move on, while making a profit even without Couture.

Unless mainstream fans start beating down the door of the UFC, Couture vs Emilianko will remain a dream for the Internet & Hardcore MMA Fan-boys. Unfortunately, the hard-core fan base is a very small minority to make things happen.

true dat

I think Randy should quit his friggin’ whining. He should step up and fight Big Nog. His record is 30-4-1 vs. Randy’s 16-8-0. Based on records alone, who’s the better fighter? Big Nog has beaten Pedro Rizzo and Josh Barnett, two fighters that Randy couldn’t defeat! Granted, Randy has come a long way and evolved since he fought them, but let’s see who’s the top in the UFC at the moment, then we’ll worry about Fedor after that.

As much as I like Randy and what he’s accomplished as well as what he’s done for the UFC, it’s time to stop crying the blues and stand behind your word. Isn’t that what Americans are always bragging about? Honour, trust, integrity? Huh, Captain America?

Tappi
Jan 24th, 2008 at 2:57 pm Quote this comment
When you start to think about it, without the UFC, Randy would be making $35,000/year as a wrestling coach in his home town. He gets crushed by Chuck, retires, they bring him back to make another few million, and he is still pissed. I like watching him fight, think he is good for the sport, but come on. Without the UFC, Randy wouldnt be much of anything

Couldnt say it much better than that… Sad for a guy to complain about getting paid when he is the one that made his own contract to come back and fight…Not to mention they give him a title shot in his first fight back after his last fight which Liddell beat his azz.

“Well Fedor was being a little bitch and not accept a UFC contract. I don’t know the negotiations behind it, but I bet he wanted to be the highest paid fighter”

Actually, the deal breaker (so rumor has it) was the UFC’s refusal to let Fedor fight outside of the UFC if he signed with them. Fedor wanted to keep competing in Sambo matches in Russia, and apparently the UFC said no way. He’s got a huge Russian fan base.

I’d love to see Fedor vs Randy, but under Pride-style rules – i.e. kneeing on the ground and so on. Not sure if M-1 rules are quite the same as Pride’s used to be, but I hope they are at least somewhat similar.

I HATE RANDY!!!!!!!!! STOOPID HOLLYWOOD SNOB!!!! People are gonna forget about this guy in the not too distant future. You are NOT as big and good as you think you are. I miss the younger humbler noble Randy. But NOT this imposter.

I don’t think Randy is a top 3 heavyweight. What has he done recently(key word) to give him the rank of #1 or #2 heavyweight in the world? He’s beaten Tim Sylvia (injured, but let’s not take too much away from it, Randy performed well), and Gonzaga who is pretty much a fledgling in the UFC. The only reason Randy has been ranked so high in the past is because he had claim to the UFC HW championship. Now that he’s left, his rank should drop IMO. He hasn’t done enough to beat out the competition in the rankings. If he had fought out the rest of his contract and beaten Nog and another HW in the UFC, then you can rank him up there, ARGUABLY even past Fedor because of Fedor’s recent lack of significant activity. But Randy’s old and he doesn’t want to risk losing because he doesn’t think he would be able to make another comeback from a loss. He wants to fight Fedor to possibly make an express trip to the top. I guess that’s his perogative.

Also, did Randy ever clear up the discrepancies in his statement when he claimed he didn’t receive a signing bonus and the amount he was paid for his PPV cut was low? The things UFC refuted with proof in their next press conference? Just curious if he ever admitted or denied the UFC’s claims.

I am so sick of people acting like the UFC did Randy a favor. When they offered him a title shot to come back, he already had a better offer from Bodog to fight Fedor. I don’t agree with sentiments that the UFC made Randy who he is, I think Randy had a lot more influence on promoting the UFC and MMA in general than people are giving him credit for. All you people that are siding with the UFC management should just shut up and keep ordering their lousy fight cards.

Lousy fight card? Ufc 80 might not of had all the big names but that PPV was great. What were there 7 or 8 fights shown an only one went the distance. And if you want to use the statement that the rest of the heavyweights are not good enough to fight Randy think about this, Would you have defended Tim S. if he said “Im not fighting Randy he just got crushed 2x as a Light Heavyweight.” Of course. Randy is in the wrong sorry

Hey THORAZINE- I’m not saying he’s not a great fighter, heart the size of an elephant. I mean how many times has hughes won?

But all that aside, I think we are both right in that none of us have see a contract to really know what we are taking about.

Enough speculation learn to enjoy the fights we have and get off the fights we don’t.

Hey THORAZINE- I’m not saying he’s not a great fighter, heart the size of an elephant. I mean how many times has hughes won?

But all that aside, I think we are both right in that none of us have see a contract to really know what we are taking about.

Enough speculation learn to enjoy the fights we have and get off the fights we don’t.

Its my understanding that Randy Couture’s contract has a personal satisfaction clause or some equivalent clause. The purpose behind such a clause is to limit the power of the opposing party (Dana White/UFC Mang) by requiring the consent/authorization from Randy Couture for each fight that he would undertake as part of Couture’s obligation to perform (fight) under the contract. Therefore, Couture does NOT have to fight anyone, unless he approves of the fight first and the UFC or Dana White cannot force Couture into fighting someone that he does NOT want to fight.

It goes back and forth. Each party to the contract hung themselves out to dry. Dana White cannot make Couture fight and Couture won’t fight because the UFC didn’t sign Fedor. Moreover, the UFC cannot force Couture into fighting since it is a violation of the 13th amendment because it would be “forced labor,” which the courts treat somewhat similarly to slavery.

Only time will tell with this one. I just hope the fight happens because people won’t shut up about who was/is a better fighter between the two.

But, again I have NOT read the contract and I am relying on 100% hearsay evidence regarding the contract information that I acquired.

one of the reason why couture didnt finish his last 2 fights in the UFC because he dont want to risk his status or risk to lost to anybody until he fight fedor, he’s not afraid of anyone even to bignog & im sure he also wants to fight bignog,but couture is intelligent,he know what he’s doing,if he lost in his last fights then we could not see fedor vs couture,cant you see it poeple? be open minded & use your common sense,call him stuborn or whatever,but randy has a reason for it that many poeple coudnt see.

Ranmdy already earn the right to do what he’s planning right now

OK!!I’m a little sick of these people who clearly dont know jack about The UFC or mma for that matter.People bought tickets to see people like Randy Couture,Chuck Liddell,Rich Franklin ect..These great fighters make the UFC.The bottom line is Randy Couture is a #1 fighter.He wants Fedor who is rated #1.Yes,I wish it would have happened in the UFC but it more then likely wont!I for one really want this fight to happen!I do agree Randy as a fighter should have fought his two fights for the UFC but its his choice.At his age and point in his career this is what he thinks is best!Your still Captain America to me Randy,and still one of my heroes!COUTURE VS. FEDOR——LIKE BIG JOHN SAYS—LETS GET IT ON!!

he’s all talk. if he truly wanted to fight fedor like he says, it would make more sense to have stayed in ufc instead of walking outta his contract

How would it make more sense? Fedor signed with M1. The UFC will not do a cross promotion fight with M1.What choice does he have with the UFC? M1 was willing to bend and the UFC was not.I like Dana White and he has done a lot for the UFC but its not smart for him to turn down the offer from M1.At least the UFC would be part of it instead they will end up with no part of it!The fight will happen!As for THORAZINE Randy Couture is a 3 time heavyweight champion and a 2 time light heavweight champion.The last coming at the age of 43! That alone is enough to make him a legend!As for his 2 losses to Chuck Liddell,fighters are human,they go through personal problem(his devorce) and lose focus.It happen to Chuck(Rampage and Jardine).

THANK GOD IM NOT THE ONLY PERSON SICK OF THE CRY BABY…BE A REAL MAN AND FINISH UR CONTRACT

shut up you haters RANDY vs FEDOR would be a hudge money maker and a great fight!!!!!!!!!!
DAN is stupid here not randy not fedor….

cum on you mma fans
management always sucks i’m ina union i know

if randy wants to prove something than why doesnt he go back down to 205?

correct me if I’m wrong- Dana said Randy convinced him to pursue fedor and that he only did it because Couture asked him to. Then, Randy seemingly gets upset for the amounts thrown at Fedor as an enticement to come? Seems like a bit of a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” position.

Fact is Randy has been good to the UFC and likewise over the years. However, Randy “retired” and the UFC brings him back. If he didn’t want to honor the deal then don’t make it to begin with.

I think Randy should quit his friggin’ whining. He should step up and fight Big Nog. His record is 30-4-1 vs. Randy’s 16-8-0. Based on records alone, who’s the better fighter? Big Nog has beaten Pedro Rizzo and Josh Barnett, two fighters that Randy couldn’t defeat! Granted, Randy has come a long way and evolved since he fought them, but let’s see who’s the top in the UFC at the moment, then we’ll worry about Fedor after that.

As much as I like Randy and what he’s accomplished as well as what he’s done for the UFC, it’s time to stop crying the blues and stand behind your word. Isn’t that what Americans are always bragging about? Honour, trust, integrity? Huh, Captain America?

Randy Beat Rizzo, twice. The first fight was close as hell, but the judges gave it to Randy.

Well Fedor was being a little bitch and not accept a UFC contract. I don’t know the negotiations behind it, but I bet he wanted to be the highest paid fighter, even without stepping into the octagon. But I do feel a man has to be a man and meet his obligations (contract). I see where RC is coming from, but just bc Fedor couldn’t get enough character, put the $$ aside for a sec, and fight RC. Fedor will get paid, but pro sports now is a damn business, and as time passes, the LOVE for the sport diminishes… A half ass baseball player could get $11 million for two yrs.

I just want to see hunger, dignity, and heart in the octagon anytime.

Big Nog is just as good a fight as Fedor? Oh well, in the long run, we the fans lose….

Money had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with why Fedor turned down the contract-fight. He has money, doesn’t need more. It goes much, much deeper than that.

How would it make more sense? Fedor signed with M1. The UFC will not do a cross promotion fight with M1.What choice does he have with the UFC? M1 was willing to bend and the UFC was not.I like Dana White and he has done a lot for the UFC but its not smart for him to turn down the offer from M1.At least the UFC would be part of it instead they will end up with no part of it!The fight will happen!As for THORAZINE Randy Couture is a 3 time heavyweight champion and a 2 time light heavweight champion.The last coming at the age of 43! That alone is enough to make him a legend!As for his 2 losses to Chuck Liddell,fighters are human,they go through personal problem(his devorce) and lose focus.It happen to Chuck(Rampage and Jardine).

Cross promotion fights are NOT smart business. You risk having someone else in a different company holding YOUR title. Your next champion would always be considered second best. Jesus, how many times does this have to be explained?

COURT WILL FAVOR RANDY!! YOU CANNOT STOP A MAN FROM MAKING A LIVING (FIGHTING)… TAKE THE CASE OF PACQUIAO HE SIGNED TWO CONTRACTS ONE WITH DELAHOYA ANOTHER WITH TOP RANK BUT THE JUDGE FAVORED PACQUIAO..

By the time Randy & Fedor fight (if they ever do?)in my opinion it will be advantage the russian fighting machine!
Now that Fedor is back in competitive action (well kinda) if & when it does happen, Randy may not have fought for maybe 12 months or more.
Shame, because if Dana & the UFC wanted to make it happen they could’ve done. Even after Fedor signed with M1, the matchup still could’ve been made. They could have retained Randy on there books & given him what he so desperately wants & that is a crack at the near invincble Fedor. Obviously that would have meant some sort of copromotion with M1 & we all know that Dana & the UFC will never be up for that.
In my opinion there are only 3 current heavyweights (that Fedor hasn’t already beat)aside from Randy that would be worthy opponents. They are Tim Silvia, Andre Arlovski & Josh Barnett. Personally i don’t think any of them would give Fedor as many problems to cope with that Randy would’ve before the long lay off that looks like befalling the gtreatest mma fighter of all time…… except possbly Mr Emelianenko himself.

Randy Beat Rizzo, twice. The first fight was close as hell, but the judges gave it to Randy.

Fedor would destroy Randy

My question is “what has Randy done to become this almost mythical fighter, really?” Don’t get me wrong I love the guy but I’m starting to think more clearly in my old age.

Ya everyone wants to see this fight, but how much is hype?

Is Randy not considering BIG NOG as a valide opponent?

Honestly I believe that he needs to pull his head out of the shade an fullfill his five fight contract.

Or does his contract say FEDOR fight or forget it?

Agreed. He should feel obligated to fight Nog then Fedor will be next in line because Nog’s huge sub over Tim shows he’s the #2 guy

The reporter was wrong when she said that UFC fans are as loyal as any fans around…

loyal to UFC, apparently so, loyal to the fighters, hell no…

We’ve seen all the people that are siding with management and not Couture…

Which UFC fans are not going to watch the Fedor vs. Randy fight? Zero. They are just grumpy there are snags keeping it from happening. Randy is the man, no question. But he should still fight Nog. If he can beat Nog AND Fedor, could be the greatest ever.

I couldn’t care less about this fight right now. Randy needs to quit being a bitch and fight his remaining two fights on his deal. What? is he afraid that in 2 fights he’s going to be done and he’ll have nothing left for that third fight — presumably against Fedor? C’mon Randy, quit being a little bitch.

Dana should’ve let Randy fought Fedor. The record would be clear. Sure, I think Fedor would win, but Randy is no joke. And I respected the fact that he called (and still does) the toughest opponent. Some champ dodges toughest challenges, but Randy asked for it and Dana was being an asshole, especially when he downplayed Fedor’s credibility.