I hope Jardine beats him again.

Get em chuck!! avenge that loss, then the only one you have left to avenge is rampage..ps watch out for those kicks this time!

strange jardine will of been out for so long

this deserves to be a #1 contender fight

although jardine got the W over chuck the first time its like rashad tito rashad bisping and bisping hammill
there is unfinished business as it wasnt what id consider that dominant a win

jardine was very good that night but he didnt come that close to finishing chuck

in the rematch id heavily fancy chuck as to avoid him knocking you out for 15 minutes aint going to be easy

i dont think its fair to jardine unless they garuntee him a title shot if he wins. but if this fight does happen,which i hope it does, i hope chuck hits him so hard he knocks that stupid fucking beard and grin off his face

“Since Jackson is already scheduled to fight”

Does he honestly think he should be next in line for a title shot??

There’s no reason for Chuck to get a rematch at this point. Jardine beat him, and should go on to fight someone else. Maybe down the line they could fight again, but it doesn’t make sense to fight now.

I would like to see Jardine or Chuck fight Shogun at 84, but I know that’s not going to happen. So, Sokoudjou/Shogun at 84. Make it happen, Dana.

NO JARDINE should be fighting RAMPAGE cuz JARDINe beat Chuck already and KTFO out of Forrest

If the ufc is trying to be amonopoly ike MLB or the NBA , which it is then keith would be fighting rampage but screw dana hes killn the sport and inducting steroid users like coleman and blocking randy from fighting ever you’d never see this type of MOB MENTALITY in any other SPORT UFC STINKS WHAT GIVES PEEPS!?!?!!?

this topic is useless to talk about or debate.cuz like the headline says (whatever Chuck thinks, Chuck gets.) Dana will prolly give him this fight and Jardine stands no chance. after Chuck destroys him we will prolly never see him again and will never make a main card again. he will prolly play the role of the 205 gate keeper and take tito’s place,being the way it looks now.

sucks for jardine, but the ice man has got the fans and the legacy to get what he asks for. i totally think that machida and jardine should be fighting with the winner getting a title shot at the winner of rampage/griffin. but chucks done a lot for the sport and he is nearing retirement so, throw a dog a bone.

I would prefer to see Jardine fight a good ground fighter — that way we know if he even has a good ground game. If he’s just a one-dimensional fighter, Rampage would destroy Jardine easily. The UFC should test Jardine’s ground game first before he steps in the ring with an excellent gnp fighter like Rampage.

I would prefer to see Jardine fight a good ground fighter — that way we know if he even has a good ground game. If he’s just a one-dimensional fighter, Rampage would destroy Jardine easily. The UFC should test Jardine’s ground game first before he steps in the ring with an excellent gnp fighter like Rampage.

Jardine trains in the Jackson camp with GSP, Rashad Evans and, at one point, Diego Sanchez. I am pretty sure he is well versed on the ground.

If Jardine wins, will people accept that he is top-five material?

I like Jardine contrary to most people, of course I like Chuck more, but I like Jardine.

this just wouldnt be fair to jardine at all
he shouldnt have to fight chuck back to back its ridiculous
give us jardine against winner t.silva/rashad or something for a title shot…even tho that means keith will have been out forever

Is it fair that Jardine has to fight Chuck again without a fight in-between?

I think Jardine should fight Shogun. Not Chuck.

If he gets through Shogun, he rematches with Chuck. Then winner of Jardine/Chuck 2 gets winner of Rampage and Forrest.

So if they fight again and Chuck wins I suppose they will have to have a rubber match. I dont think jardine liddell II is worth it rite now. give the winner of rampage griffin to jardine or else have him fight shogun in the meantime…. theres a ton of other worthy fight possibilities b4 these 2 square off again

jardine needs to fight someone else before a remach with chuck…

Hey Mania, did the UFC 80 fighter salaries come out yet?

That kind of sucks for Jardine since he has to fight Liddell two fights in a row. But Chuck is Dana’s lap dog.

Jardine trains in the Jackson camp with GSP, Rashad Evans and, at one point, Diego Sanchez. I am pretty sure he is well versed on the ground.

Is this anything like how good Swick is at wrestling, since he trains with Koscheck and Fitch?

I said this would happen all along, chuck would beat wandi, then get jardine and demolish him, before getting another pop at Rampage. The only reason this hasnt worked out the best is that jardine hasnt fought in between! Other than that there is no reason not to have the fight, as said before it was a fairly close first fight. Why do people keep gettin on chucks back, like it or not he dominated the ufc for ages, more so than anyone else has ever done in the weight division, against world class fighters almost every fight, he has had to fight randy twice, tito twice and sobral twice, so why shouldnt he get the fight he wants??? sounds like to me theres a lot of chuck hating goin on!!!!
Let us know asap when and where hes fighting next, im goin to it regardless, i need to know as i have to save my pennies as its gony cost coming all the way from bonnie Scotland. Go CHUCK!!! ps dont listen to the haters!!

actually randy three times lol!!

already?

This NEEDS to happen

Like it or not, the UFC is a business, and in business to make money. Jardine can’t pull in the bucks for Dana that the Iceman can, unless the poor sap is getting beat to a pulp in a rematch w/Liddell. It probably doesn’t hurt that Liddell and Dana are probably pretty tight. Big deal, “unfair” stuff happens all the time in business and the real world. If it upsets you that much, don’t watch UFC PPV’s, attend events, etc.

On the flip side, anyone can have a bad night. Liddell may have lost to Jardine, but he has proven himself time and time again in the past, and has taken down the mighty Wanderlei Silva since his fight w/Jardine. What has Jardine done? He didn’t do that much before he got Liddell. He took out Griffin, but then promtly had his ass handed to him by Alexander. He didn’t even win TUF (BTW, I was rooting for Jardine that season).

Sucks for Jardine? Yeah, it does. However, if Jardine is the badass his fans say he is, he will win in the rematch and make that much more of a name for himself, and that much harder for Dana not to give him his chance for the title.

From Jardine’s point of view, I don’t see why they should have a rematch. He beat him and he should be fighting an opponent for a title shot like Lyoto Machida. But of course, Dana/Joe Silva plays favorites.

There is someone else in the Mix, Vitor Belfort. He says the UFC asked if he was ready for an April fight and he is waiting for Dana.

So who fights who: Vitor, Liddell, Thiago Silva, Jardine etc

Check ou:t http://www.m1mixfight.com/info/interviews/2008/1/12/Vitor-Belfort-interview/

If they fight again, Jardine will finish Chuck this time

I would prefer to see Jardine fight a good ground fighter — that way we know if he even has a good ground game. If he’s just a one-dimensional fighter, Rampage would destroy Jardine easily. The UFC should test Jardine’s ground game first before he steps in the ring with an excellent gnp fighter like Rampage.

stephen bonner, wilson gouveia

chuck did beat the long reigning pride lhw champ who ktfo of rampage so chuck cant be far off a title shot

same with wandy and shogun 1 or 2 wins over decent opponentss and theyllbe right back in the picture

jardine just got unlucky (TUF7/8 WTF it is now)as if things had been different he may of had a title shot

if he does beat chuck a second time then he wil truly deserve a shot at the belt and un.less he gets injured i cant see how they cant give him 1

Hey Mania, did the UFC 80 fighter salaries come out yet?

found this on another site………….

The UFC dished out a total of $140,000 in traditional "fight night�� bonuses stemming from UFC 80, which took place today at the Metro Radio Arena in Newcastle, England.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) has confirmed with sources on site at tonight’s event that the bonus recipients were B.J. Penn, Wilson Gouveia, Paul Taylor and Paul Kelly.

Each earned an additional $35,000 on top of his normal fight salary.

Penn, who defeated Joe Stevenson for the UFC’s vacant lightweight title, earned the submission of the night award. Penn submitted Stevenson with a second-round rear-naked choke. On a fight card full of knockouts, Penn posted the night’s only submission victory.

Gouveia, who stunned and dropped Jason Lambert with a looping left hook, was badly losing his fight before he connected on the second-round, bout-stopping punch. He was awarded knockout of the night, beating out five other fighters who scored KO victories, including Marcus Davis, Fabricio Werdum, Jorge Rivera, Antoni Hardonk and Alessio Sakara.

Fight of the night bonuses went to Paul Taylor and Paul Kelly, two British fighters who kept a frantic pace throughout their three-round preliminary bout. In the end, Kelly earned the unanimous-decision victory, but as with all fight of the night bonuses, the fight’s winner and loser both received bonus checks.

The $35,000 bonuses were $20,000 less than the awards given out at the UFC’s most recent pay-per-view event. UFC 79 bonus winners earned $55,000 each.

if this happens expect jardine to get iced

I’d prefer to not seeing that 3 round stand-up fight again. Both guys should move up the food chain. Jardine is close to the top now. You have to throw out the loss to Houston Alexander as being careless. Yeah, I’d like to see Jardine fight someone who’s more of a ground guy. Liddell should be in the gatekeeper role now since he’s not getting another shot at Rampage.

I don’t think this fight should happen. Not yet anyway.

Ok for every one that is saying Chuck shouldnt be THAT close to a title shot already…. Listen..

Chuck destroyed everyone in the LHW division. Wait, not just destroyed but knocked almost all of them out. And yes he was dethroned, however that shouldnt wipe away his dominant rein of terror he sent throught the division. I think he deserves to get and hold his title back.

Yeah jardine without a doubt won on the scorecard but his striking didn’t seem to be as effective as chucks. If you could have looked at both fighters after that fight without seeing the fight anyone would have said Jardine got his ass beat because the punches that Chuck landed did more damage then the wild crazy punches jardine landed.

Yeah jardine without a doubt won on the scorecard but his striking didn’t seem to be as effective as chucks. If you could have looked at both fighters after that fight without seeing the fight anyone would have said Jardine got his ass beat because the punches that Chuck landed did more damage then the wild crazy punches jardine landed.

I fully agree. Jardine looked wrecked after that fight. and though chuck took some pounding he didn’t look nearly as beatup. Jardine simply had the more technical strikes which is fine if your trying to make it as a boxer.

This is how it should go:

machida vs. jardine for top contender spot
Chuck vs. Rashad (someone has to do it)
W. Silva vs. Silva
tito vs. Mr. T

There are always some people in pro sports who seem to get the shaft. Then there are those who are adored by the brass no matter what they do. In MMA, specifically the UFC, Jardine falls under the former and Chuck of course falls under the latter.

He was supposed to get crushed by Liddell in their first match up. That is why Dana threw him out there, so Liddell can get a highlight KO and get back on track after the Jackson loss.

Now, even though Jardine defied Dana’s plans and the odds and beat Liddell, Jardine will continue to remain stagnant because Liddell and Dana say so. It’s like the first win against Chuck didn’t even happen.

Man, it must be tough to remain motivated when you know you have a glass ceiling over your head.

[quote comment=“278690”]NO JARDINE should be fighting RAMPAGE cuz JARDINe beat Chuck already and KTFO out of Forrest

ya you know who suckin who now. this chuck special att. thing is gettin out of control how about chuck and hustin alexander

i don’t think jardine should fight a opponent back to back what are they playing best out of three?? let it go till next year jardine should fight shogun as for chuck it’s harder to pick someone right now when everyone is booked but jardine. they should have given machida to him and had tito fight like wanderli next

even though jardine beat him before i think chuck is looking for the easiest fight,he should worry about jardine later and fight someone with a bigger name,and its not fair to jardine who already beat him.

Chuck got his ass beat twice, that ‘should’ knock him down a couple of wrungs, although, he gets what he wants, and Jardine doesn’t. I feel bad for Jardine, the last two guys he beat are getting all this praise, and even title shots. Throw chuck at Alexander, or Shogun. Jardine should be fighting Machida if they are serious about Machida’s potential at title contender. Jardine played a very important role in the LHW ranks in the last few months, and did some major damage….so what does he get? Another fight with Chuck at this point is ridiculous and unfair. Wait, Chuck should be fighing Rashad. that makes sense both coming off victories. Any way you slice the pie, it’s true, Chuck gets what he wants. And if a rematch ensues, I hope Jardine KO’s him with that left that sat Chuck on his ass. How does anyone in the right mind think that Jardine will definantly lose I don’t know. Is it because he tastes revenge?? Chuck was very hungry last time he was vengeful and look what happened. He was vicously KO’d. Oh and he’ll never avenge all of his losses, he’s got to beat Jardine and Rampage twice. And that’s saying he never loses again AND he’s got the time to stick around for a while.

i dont think jardine should even accept the fight, that was a huge hurdle he overcame, why should he risk contention against the same guy? he should be fighting someone like shogun or the winner of silva/evans or ortiz/machida to solidify his place in the top 5. its a deep division and no one else got the rematches they wanted and deserved, including rashad/tito, forrest/tito, hendo/jackson and hamill/bisping. if they give liddell this rematch immedietly, we’ll know where the ufc favours, big names or big wins. liddell picked his fight against jardine and lost, miserably. why should he get to pick the same fight? bring back vitor to have his rematch with chuck or get in there with shogun for us canadians :) then go from there, needless to say, chuck doesnt deserve to be calling every fight he wants, isnt that why they wouldnt sign fedor? hmmm.

That sucks.

Why doesn’t the UFC let Chuck fight the same people over and over again, until he gets a win and then he can say that he’s avenged all of his losses.

Keith Jardine should not have to fight Chuck Liddell next. If I was Keith, I would decline the fight. The only reason the UFC wants this fight is to put Chuck back on his pedastal so they can generate more revenue from the PPV’s. So, if that is the case, which it is, then Jardine should demand a huge bonus to take the 2nd fight with Chuck at this point in time. What did he receive the first time fighting Chuck in the Main Event of a PPV, like $20,000? And Chuck got what, half a million? Jardine should demand $150,000 to take the fight. Otherwise, decline the fight, and fight someone else. Fighting Chuck again is a lose/lose situation for Keith.

Jardine trains in the Jackson camp with GSP, Rashad Evans and, at one point, Diego Sanchez. I am pretty sure he is well versed on the ground.

I recently watched Keith Jardines 4th pro fight that took place in King of the Cage. He fought against Philip Preese and the entire fight took place on the ground with Keith owning the ground game. The announcers made it sound like he was primarily a BJJ fighter at the time. But even to date, Keith only has 2 submission wins. I believe that Keith does possess a ground game, but he just prefers to stand and bang and have a good ol’ time.

Jardine vs. Machida for #1 contender, or Jardine vs. Evans " "
Jardine doesn’t need to fight Chuck again, he should be next in line for a title shot. For the meantime, he should try to avenge Houston, or take on Belfort.

Tito vs. Shogun!!!
Ramaeu vs. winner of Bonnar/ Hamill

Wandy vs. Houston.

So many possiblities, the LHW div is stacked, so if the Lightweight Div. BJ is going to have a rough title reign, Sherk, Huerta, Guida, Diaz, Danzig, Taverez, etc…

Karo vs. Fitch, for #1 contender for GSP vs Serra.

Since everyone is throwing in their two cents I might as well too.

Jardine vs. Machida, winner gets winner of Rampage vs. Forrest.

Chuck vs. Thiago Silva

Tito vs. Rashad to see who actually wins, and hope they don’t hug each other the whole time again. Then get rid of Tito.

Wandi/Houston vs. Vitor, both fun fights, would also bring in fans.

Wandi/Houston vs. Shogun, same as vs. Vitor

I agree that Jardine should not fight Chuck back to back. It defies the hierarchy. You should move up when you beat two great fighters, or have a perfect record like Machida. To me Chuck needs to get at least one more win before he can start avenging. Thiago deserves some stiffer competition after beating Houston, and the other fights are good just because I said so.

You guys are crazy. If Jardine lost to Chuck, I’m sure he would have gotten an immediate rematch! HAH! most people view the UFC as a sport, but it’s more of a business. Jardine beat both Chuck and Forrest. How can forrest griffin get an immediate title shot for beating an out of shape, Shogun… while Jardine has to fighta gain(prob a couple more times) in order to get his title shot??? The answer is bc people like Forrest and that fight will attract the most $$$$$$$. If the UFC was a true sport, there wouldnt be so much politics involved. Maybe, the UFC should have publishe rankings and there would be much less controversy!!

I feel sorry for Jardine. He beat Liddell and Forrest and although he lost to Alexander in between, we know he could be him. I think hes done everything to deserve a title shot. The only reason Dana would not want to give him one is because he isnt marketable enough. They want to build Liddell up again for a possible rematch with Rampage or against Forrest but if he loses again that will really fuck things up for the UFC and their plans. If Jardine wins again surely he must be the number one contender. Somehow though, I think the UFC will find someway round it by having an eliminator between Jardine and Machida before hand or give a title shot straight to Machida.

The biggest bunch of crap in this whole thing is that Dana put the LHW champ on the reality show. They have to stop doing this! Too many opportunities to get hurt and too long of time in between title defenses. Title holders should fight three times a year in my opinion.

We will never find out who is the best at this rate. It is not fair to the title holder to have to wait 9 months to fight because they are on a TV show.

Since everyone is throwing in their two cents I might as well too.

Jardine vs. Machida, winner gets winner of Rampage vs. Forrest.

Chuck vs. Thiago Silva

Tito vs. Rashad to see who actually wins, and hope they don’t hug each other the whole time again. Then get rid of Tito.

Wandi/Houston vs. Vitor, both fun fights, would also bring in fans.

Wandi/Houston vs. Shogun, same as vs. Vitor

I agree that Jardine should not fight Chuck back to back. It defies the hierarchy. You should move up when you beat two great fighters, or have a perfect record like Machida. To me Chuck needs to get at least one more win before he can start avenging. Thiago deserves some stiffer competition after beating Houston, and the other fights are good just because I said so.

THAT WOULD B GREAT WATCHIN OVER-RATED CHUCK GET BEAT DOWN BY A REAL FIGHTER NAMED THIAGO SILVA

There is someone else in the Mix, Vitor Belfort. He says the UFC asked if he was ready for an April fight and he is waiting for Dana.

So who fights who: Vitor, Liddell, Thiago Silva, Jardine etc

Check ou:t http://www.m1mixfight.com/info/interviews/2008/1/12/Vitor-Belfort-interview/

I like Vitor/Chuck Silva/Jardine but I would settle for Vitor/Jardine Chuck/Silva – either of these scenarios is better than a Jardine/Chuck rematch at this point. I want to see the rematch, but Keith needs to fight someone else first.

We will never find out who is the best at this rate. It is not fair to the title holder to have to wait 9 months to fight because they are on a TV show.

matt serra had it happen, so it’s going to happen to rampage??? well, i recall rampage suffering a broken hand that time would only help to let it recover. Maybe we should have him fight with a broken hand, then coach the show if he loses. Ya thats a great idea

Chuck has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS being in line for a Title shot. He lost to Rampage twice already and after Rampage he lost to Jardine. A win over an inactive Wanderlie doesnt make up for that especially since Wand was 0-2 coming into that fight. FUCK DAT!

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again the UFC is worse than WWE, the fights midus well be scripted because the winner isn’t what matters win or lose its Dana who decides what happens next.

well why hasn’t jardine fought? with a title shot already planned in a distant future he should fight quality competition. He had a close win over chuck so he should get title shot? he just lost to alexander in the first round. chuck and shogun? shogun had horrible loss last fight, he should fight sokodju or something. i do think t. silva needs someone like machida soon, i dont know what to say about machida. i wanna say he’s not that good, but no fighter has shown me a big weak point in his game, he just wins.
Why not have jardine vs. evans? i dont consider either of them a solid top 5 guy, but a win for either would earn respect and make their top 5 spot official.

I MUST ADMIT – IT’S HARD FOR ME TO WATCH JARDINE FIGHT.

The guy fights like he’s an 80 year old guy. I can’t stand it. Does anyone else have this issue?

If Jardine wins, will people accept that he is top-five material?

no

this just wouldnt be fair to jardine at all
he shouldnt have to fight chuck back to back its ridiculous
give us jardine against winner t.silva/rashad or something for a title shot…even tho that means keith will have been out forever

Totally agree. Even tho i hate Jardine theres no way he should hav to fight chuck again after he clearly dominated him the first time.
I dont think anyother fighter but chuck wud have got this chance if they werent in danas pocket. Match Chuck up with Shogun.

i can see chuck winning if they met up again. chuck did more damage imo, but jardine landed more blows

guys there is absolutely NO reason for Jardine to take this fight the 205 competition is insane and there are many other competitors out there for Liddell to fight and just because he wants a rematch doesnt mean he should get it cuz Jardine already beat him and should move on to better things and another contender like machida, shogun or wandi silva, The only reason Jardine isn’t fighting Rampage is because of his personality…HE DOESN’T HAVE ONE!!! and his PR ppl SUCK..Jardine doesn’t call anyone out doesnt ask for fights and just sits back and waits if you want a title shot ASK FOR IT!! otherwise you’re gona get screwed by Dana white who is Liddell’s homeboy and put you against him again…if that happens what can Jardine gain?? NOTHING he beat him again so what??? if he loses then his win over Liddell will be a fluke and Chuck will come out as a hero again….heres my take…

1)Rampage vs. 2)Forrest
3)Liddell vs. 4)Machida
5)Shogun vs. 6)Jardine
7)Evans vs. 8)Thiago Silva
9)Wandi Silva vs. 10)Alexander
11)Ortiz vs. 12)Sokoudjou

what yall think…

1)Rampage vs. 2)Forrest
3)Liddell vs. 4)Machida
5)Shogun vs. 6)Jardine
7)Evans vs. 8)Thiago Silva
9)Wandi Silva vs. 10)Alexander
11)Ortiz vs. 12)Sokoudjou

what yall think…

I’ll buy that. Seems solid.

I recently watched Keith Jardines 4th pro fight that took place in King of the Cage. He fought against Philip Preese and the entire fight took place on the ground with Keith owning the ground game. The announcers made it sound like he was primarily a BJJ fighter at the time. But even to date, Keith only has 2 submission wins. I believe that Keith does possess a ground game, but he just prefers to stand and bang and have a good ol’ time.

VM: u make great points. We all know that in Dana’s eyes the best thing for the UFC is to have Chuck get his hands back around that title, which is unfortunate…the sport would be better to us fans that know the game if they set up the fights based on merit and not on who would generate more money as a champion. In the end the UFC will profit no matter what the title fights are. It would be highly unfair ot Jardine to have to rematch chuck right away. As ViolentMike pointed out Keith made chump change for that fight. Only way I would accept this fight, if I were Jardine is if I was being paid a base salary equal to chuck’s. Dana wants that fight bad enough he will have to show Keith the money. In addition if Keith wins he would have to be garenteed a title shot right away.

In my oppinion if Dana were to do this it will really mess with the integrity of the sport.
Have Chuck fight Shogun and if he wins then yeah, he should get another crack at Rampage.

Where’s news on WANDERLEI? anyone hear anything substantial?
Dont want to see wanderlei vs. SOKO because I feel soko might be to big and strong for wanderlei….then again i thought Rapage was too big for wanderlei but I was proved wrong Twice.

To add to my previous post…Jardine has a really good ground game. Just cuz he likes to bang it out, dont be fooled he is well versed in submissions. I re-watched season 2 of TUF recently and I was surprised that Jardine’s coach Rich Franklin who is a real smart guy and knows the ground game well was, was counting on Jardine’s ground game and his submissions while gameplanning for some of those fights on the show. At the time I watched the show, I didnt know Jardine so when I heard the strategy I thought nothing of it. Now when I re watch that and hear That Rich was so impressed with Jardine’s submission game that he put more emphasis on the ground game then the stand up when gameplanning Jardine’s fights

There is no fight that could repair Chuck’s move back up the latter better than this one.

I’ll buy that. Seems solid.

i can see chuck winning if they met up again. chuck did more damage imo, but jardine landed more blows

I just watched the fight again before I deleted it from my Tivo. In the first round Chuck did the damage, but after that, he couldn’t get close enough bc Jardine was landing kicks followed by left hooks. Chuck was looking ahead to WAndy, They were even hyping up the fight with WAndy in dec before, during and after the fight.

I’d much rather see chuck vs machida, and the winner fight for the title. Chuck just beat silva who to me was one of the best light heavy weights of all time, give him the undefeated machida who just beat soko. To me the winner of chuck/machida definitely deserves a shot at the title.

There is no fight that could repair Chuck’s move back up the latter better than this one.

  I see your point but for some reason don’t really want to see this fight again. Yes if chuck beats him it sets things right but to me beating silva was much more impressive than if chuck beats jardine the second time. To me if chuck could beat machida he would be the top contender again, I just think chuck vs machida would be a better fight, anyone agree? Chuck vs houston alexander would be interesting too, but it doesn’t do anything to advance chuck since alexander just lost to silva.

If jardine does fight Chuck again, the only way this fight is fair to jardine is if the winner is guaranteed a title shot, period.

Y is everyone speculating about Machida/Chuck, Tito/Shogun, Rashad/Jardine and Vitor? The facts are Rashad, Machida, Tito and Vitor who isn’t even signed to the UFC are all out of the question because they are all matvhed up against other fighters.
Rashad vs. Tiago Silva
Machida vs. Tito

Which leaves Shogun, Jardine, Wanderlei, Liddell and Sokoudjou..all left to be paired up.
I would pair en up like this:

Chuck vs. Shogun..(If Chuck can beat 2 chute box animals in a row who both beat Rampage 3 times, then he deserves to fight Rampage

Jardine vs. Sokoudjou because since Jardine got shafted at of a title shot, it would be unfair to him to have to fight both Chuck and Wanderlei in order to get a title shot when all Forrest, whom Jardine already KO’ed, only had to beat a gassed shogun fighting with out an ACL.

That leaves wanderlei who I feel should fight a lower name in order to rebuild his status. From a marketing stand point, wanderelei’s reputation and heart that he showed against Liddell could carry a fight against a top 15 opponent instead of a top 5 opponent. IMO

You know I’m a huge Chuck fan, and though Jardine is not ready to face Jackson, he should have the opportunity to continue to fight his way up the top. He just beat Chuck!!
Why does Chuck get to pick his own Fights! The UFC must be scared to lose Chuck. Put him against someone different, new competition.

say they do fight and jardine wins again would he get his title shot then……probably not

Y is everyone speculating about Machida/Chuck, Tito/Shogun, Rashad/Jardine and Vitor? The facts are Rashad, Machida, Tito and Vitor who isn’t even signed to the UFC are all out of the question because they are all matvhed up against other fighters.
Rashad vs. Tiago Silva
Machida vs. Tito

Which leaves Shogun, Jardine, Wanderlei, Liddell and Sokoudjou..all left to be paired up.
I would pair en up like this:

Chuck vs. Shogun..(If Chuck can beat 2 chute box animals in a row who both beat Rampage 3 times, then he deserves to fight Rampage

Jardine vs. Sokoudjou because since Jardine got shafted at of a title shot, it would be unfair to him to have to fight both Chuck and Wanderlei in order to get a title shot when all Forrest, whom Jardine already KO’ed, only had to beat a gassed shogun fighting with out an ACL.

That leaves wanderlei who I feel should fight a lower name in order to rebuild his status. From a marketing stand point, wanderelei’s reputation and heart that he showed against Liddell could carry a fight against a top 15 opponent instead of a top 5 opponent. IMO

  you make some good points, yes chuck vs shogus would be a good fight, hopefully he doesn’t look like he did fighting forrest and looks like the old shogun.

I’m a huge Chuck fan…but if he can’t block that leg kick he’s gonna get owned again. Jardine already proved he can be a punching bag for Chuck…but hey what the heck? Do any core MMA fans know if Hacklemen ever fought? He looks like a bad ass and I heard he used to pummel the Ice Man….

MAKES NO SENSE KEITH JARDINE BEAT BEAT CHUCK AND GOT HOW MUCH ?!?!! IT WAS …
$28, 000
THat is stupid HOw does ELMer FUDD get PAID more THAn Keith Jardine?

UFC stinks..it tries to be a monopoly like the nfl or mlb but does not play “fair”. there should be a ranking just like tema ssay in nfl just because lets say the gianats get more watches than the cougers or whatever…does not mean they should get paid less or FURTHERMORE win again and again and get apid less than others or!!
WIn WIn WIN and shold go to the finals only to have the team you beat
(KEith J. beating Forrest G.) only to have the 2nd place team go jump ahead of you and go for the title Forrest vs RAMpage.

and chuck gets 1 million for 2 loses?!?!?!?not right while keith can’t feed himself!!?!?!?!?!
Wish DANA had no money tha piece of do do

This fight makes sense for a few reasons:

1) If Wandy would have beat Chuck he would of had an immediate Title shot, don’t forget he beat big Rampage twice!

2) The W against Chuck was a fluke, it won’t happen again with a focused Liddell, the same Chuck we saw againts Wandy.

3) Jardine hasn’t beat any big names other than Forrest and Chuck. He needs to prove he can defeat Chuck with a convincing win to get a shot.

Remember, Chuck has beat Tito, Randy, Vitor, Babalu, Jeremy Horn, Randlemen etc.

chucks washed up he diddn’t even look that good when he fought silva and to get on the topic of jardine …jardine won that fought hands down next fight chuck has which will probally be rashad evans i say this is where evans will show his true skill that’s all i got to say i hate chuck and i hate all chuck fans im from the bay that’s how we speak yadda yeee!

you make some good points, yes chuck vs shogus would be a good fight, hopefully he doesn’t look like he did fighting forrest and looks like the old shogun.

No question we will see the PRIDE Shogun. Shogun takes a lot of PRIDE in himself and his reputation and even though he was injured he was embarresed by that loss. and has vowed to come back HEATED!

I hope it happens, I believe it will be another good fight. But I think Liddell is back in the zone and will get him.

Screw it, we saw this fight already, lets see SHOGUN vs LIDDELL?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

upchuck jardine will meet his maker in june

I hope Jardine beats him again.

I like this quote! I’m a Chuck Liddell fan too, but I have to give it to “The Dean of Mean”. Maybe when Jardine beats Liddell a second time, all the cry-babies will shut their mouths. Jardine deserves respect! He doesn’t duck anybody and neither does Liddell, so let’s get it on! If anybody deserves a shot at the belt, it is Jardine. He has paid his dues! It will be very apparent after he whips Liddell or Silva. Who ever comes first…just as good. Are you ready in the red corner? Are you ready in the blue corner? Let’s get it on:)

Mike Jardine

..Get em iceman!! avenge all ur losses,just learn from all ur losses kick rampage,evans and jardine in their black ass…kill then all…learn to defend ur self at all times change your fighting style…all ur filipino fans loves you,your still the man chuck….kill them all lets get it on….