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UFC Quick Quote: Tito Ortiz accepts fight with Lyoto Machida (reluctantly) and it could be his last in UFC

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"I was expecting a bigger fight. I think the fans were expecting a bigger fight. I got pressed into it, and all of a sudden, it's all over the Internet that Tito Ortiz won't fight Machida. I'm just looking to get my final fight over with the UFC.... They said I wasn't worth the money. I was worth no more than what I'm getting paid now, and I'm not a commodity to them anymore. I'm not as viable to them anymore. That was a sign of disrespect.... With [UFC President Dana White] in charge, I don't think that fight will ever happen for me," said Ortiz. "Dana has bad blood for me and nothing but bad blood.... UFC is caring so much about the brand itself. They could care less about the fighters. Fighters are a dime a dozen. They'll keep coming. Dana is really out for himself and the company. He doesn't give a shit about the fighters. They're going to try and ruin me."

-- Former UFC light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz confirms via FightNetwork.com that he will fight undefeated contender, Lyoto Machida, most likely at UFC 84 in Las Vegas, Nevada, on May 25. It's the last fight on his current deal. And it appears that it could be his last fight inside the Octagon based on his heated remarks in this article. "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" has gone on record that he will only negotiate with the Fertittas because he doesn't get along with Dana. So much for taking it right to the top ... the brass appears to be towing the same hard line. No financial terms were revealed regarding how much Tito was asking to renew his contract.

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Go Machida … retire this chump. There was a time when Tito was good for the UFC and for MMA… that was long ago.

by SaVaGe on Jan 21, 2008 11:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana is burning way too many bridges recently, and its going to come back and bite him in the ass. H’es been relieing too much on big name new comers who can’t make the grade.

by butterteeth on Jan 21, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

please dont let it turn into another randy vs dana airing of dirty laundry in public

if M1 K1 or elitexc can stump up big money way into 7 figures then they may well be able to land themselves ortiz

he is still a massive name and probably top 5 ufc draws

i guess theres potential to get him to face randy after the contract dispute or fedor in the summer as a tune up for the randy fight

i think fedor would pick him apart in 1 round
but at least the fans wouldnt be able to complain its not top competition

by nate diaz on Jan 21, 2008 11:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good luck tito

by rawbt on Jan 21, 2008 11:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like how when fighter’s can’t fight anymore, their employer’s get blamed for not wanting to pay them more money……..Tito gets KO’d by The Iceman (fight wasn’t even close)then he fights a boring,lackluster fight against Evans! What do you want Dana to do? Pay more money or less? UFC is about promoting good fights for the fans, once the fighter’s lose their edge, I’m sorry to say they aren’t worth much anymore, but it’s not Dana’s fault, It’s just the way it is.

by Robert on Jan 21, 2008 11:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am not a Tito fan at all, but I sure hope he stomps Machida, (very unlikely), but if he did that would be great! A one last “f*** you!” to the UFC and Dana lol. Looks like Tito’s days are over, I mean if you leave the UFC, what do you have to look forward to? Unless you are Randy and your excuse is you want to fight Fedor, which is not Tito’s excuse…anyway I love to hate the guy, but in a strange way I kinda like him.

by Chadx23 on Jan 21, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree – I am not a fan of Tito, )and I like Machida to but he will be around for a long time.), but I want to see Tito give Dana a big ‘f**k you’.

by DownUnder on Jan 21, 2008 11:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito is just negotiating with the media. Could it be Jenna’s influence? It appears lately that some fighters are letting their relationships get inside their heads (i.e. Randy’s third wife). Even though Couture “comes across as a nice guy”, he obviously has some personal issues and personality problems otherwise he wouldn’t have been married three times at his age. Tito is in danger of becoming irrelevant. He’s probably asking for too much money.

by Muscle Dolphin on Jan 21, 2008 11:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have always been a huge Tito fan and still am, but His last few fights have been boring at best. Seriously, where does he fit in among top contenders, not popular fighters but actual contenders. I’m just sayin.

by Jrandolph on Jan 21, 2008 11:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like Tito, but he had no chance at that belt long ago.

by Toms Bombs on Jan 21, 2008 11:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

P.S What the hell has happened to Rashad Evans. I have not been watching him, is he fighting anytime soon?

by DownUnder on Jan 21, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

TITO IS WAS 1 OF MY TOP 2 OR 3 FIGHTERS BUT NOW HE WANTS TO B A STAR INSTEAD OF A FIGHTER…BE IN THE GOSSIP MAGS DO ALL THAT CRAP…IF HE WANTS TO DO THAT SEE U LATER TITO

IF THE FIGHTER TITO COMES BACK THEN PLEASE STAY TITO

by phatmac on Jan 21, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ll really be pulling for Tito in this one. I know many of you hate him, but that is just the character he portrays in the UFC. He has done a lot of good things for our troops and for numerous charities. If Tito wins this one, I hope he does his old skool post fight celebration and buries machida.

by pUniSHment on Jan 21, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito, you say that as long as Dana is the president, you’ll never get a title shot.

Well Tito, last time I checked you’ve lost to Chuck Liddell twice, had a draw to Rashad Evans, and controversial win to Forest Griffin…oh, and you’ve beaten Ken Shamrock 3 times.

How the hell do you deserve a title shot?

You’d have to have like 8 straight wins in the UFC to even entertain the idea…and c’mon, that ain’t gonna happen – especially with the fierceness of the LHW division.

Don’t get me wrong, you done alot for the sport, but your constant bitching about money is making me ill.

Look at Chuck Liddell, he made $500,000 at UFC 79 and that was the best fight I’ve seen since being a fan…is he complaining…NO.

If you’re gonna complain, at least have some reasoning behind it. Better yet, just go do your lame-ass hollywood thing and spare the UFC, and us fight fans with your whining.

by jimc on Jan 21, 2008 11:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito definitely doesn’t deserve to get paid more than what he is getting now. Why is it so hard for Tito to understand that? However, if Tito stops Machida in a convincing fashion, then Dana may consider a “raise” but that’s a big IF.

by Shu on Jan 21, 2008 11:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Ferttitas must feel that Machida will destroy Tito. Hey maybe Tito can go to EliteXC for less money and fight Ken Shamrock and his son at the same time?

by Muscle Dolphin on Jan 21, 2008 11:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“I was worth no more than what I’m getting now”? Why would Tito think that he’d be worth more now?

by Muscle Dolphin on Jan 21, 2008 11:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

IMO, there’s still a 99% chance that Tito signs with the UFC after this fight. But they really have no reason to do it. He hasn’t been a huge PPV draw since he got crushed by Iceman… He’s incredibly boring and doesn’t seem capable of finishing anyone under 40… His world famous cardio seems to now be non-existant.

The bottom line is that he’s a gate-keeper at best in the UFC and he’d be better off fighting low level LHWs and being a main-eventer in another org.

by Dom on Jan 21, 2008 11:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think Tito should work on being more well rounded, evolve with the sport like Chuck Liddell and BJ Penn. He’s not old and does have the good cardio, upping his game technique wise could put him back on the map.

by Toms Bombs on Jan 22, 2008 12:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Of course, first he’ll have to climp out of Jenna’s wizard robe. lol

by Toms Bombs on Jan 22, 2008 12:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What’s up with the “Fuck Dana” BS?

Dana is almost solely responsible for making UFC…heck MMA… what it is today.

Randy, Chuck, Tito would not be stars like they are without the organization as it is today. True, they are huge contributors but champs come and go.

Besides, what more would expect from Tito than controversy. The guy is an attention whore.

Titos next stop…American Gladiator.

I hope Machida deflates his big head (literally) and sends him packing into retirement.

by PooCocktail on Jan 22, 2008 12:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito’s time has come and gone. He’s too one dimensional and no matter how much he tries to improve his standup, he doesn’t take a punch to the face well enough to hang with the top guys.

He wants a bigger fight but seriously, who can he handle that’s better than Machida? He barely got out of round 3 against Evans and is complaining about his back problems. Tito’s too Hollywood for MMA, too self-important and he never stops crying about how much Dana White mistreats him. He should go act or sell Tshirts fulltime.

by Googan on Jan 22, 2008 12:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Watch Tito destroy Machida and Dana’s face just drop like Al Roker down greased pole! Big mistake letting Tito go!

by Ray on Jan 22, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i have never been a tito fan but he still probally a top ten lhw and the ufc should not just let him go some one else will pick him up quick.i will be pulling for tito in this fight and i hope he wins,the ufc just uses its fighters then throws them out say what you want about him but he was there biggest star at one time and helped them get where the are,this seems like a common thing for the ufc to do to all its veterns and i understand when its time for them to go but tito still has some fights in him.

by bill on Jan 22, 2008 12:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately for Tito, the Ground n’ Pound era is gone.

by Toms Bombs on Jan 22, 2008 12:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana Vs. Tito?

mite the boxing match finally occur

by uso on Jan 22, 2008 1:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

tito thinks hes bigger than any fighter out there and deserves more. i dont think anyone cares if he ever fights in the ufc again, i sure dont. hes not serious about fighting anymore.

by MMA Wallpapers SF on Jan 22, 2008 1:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana White is gonna be a guy in ten years that people are going to ask, “what do you think he’s doing now?” He’s been terrible at dealing with people and the UFC is going down with him.
Its almost time for Mark Cuban to take over the sport. Dana White messed up a network television deal, and Cuban is going to get it now. After that its only a matter of time until the UFC is something we remember nostalgically.
Go M-1, the future.

by EazyEismydad on Jan 22, 2008 1:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What a loser! talking about he wants a better fight. what he means to say is he wants to fight somone with a bigger name that he acually has a chance to beat. lyoto machida isnt all that well known to Ufc fans. tito is so all losing to machida will do is show how washed up he is.

by DmanC on Jan 22, 2008 1:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Love him or hate him, Tito is one of the reasons that MMA is where its at today. He is one of the biggest draws the UFC has. If Dana was smart, he’d do all he could to not lose another marquee fighter in the span of one year.It would suck to see him leave the UFC.

by the_mexicutioner on Jan 22, 2008 1:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m a big Tito Ortiz fan from back in the day. But to say that Dana White didn’t give Tito a square deal is just plain ignorant.

Tito was out of MMA and the UFC for a good number of years, and all of the sudden he is picked as a coach for TUF and to fight a main event card vs. Ken Shamrock. I’m sure until TUF, a LOT of current MMA fans didn’t even know who Tito Ortiz was. That show gave Tito a ton of exposure. He actually came out of that show as a good guy that works hard, trains hard, and is a great coach and leader.

Dana White gave him that opportunity. And after a few fights against an aging Shamrock, gave Ortiz his shot at Liddell. And sorry Tito, you lost. You lost quite easily too.

Now with the acquisition of Pride and a stacked 205 division, you have to earn that shot again.

Honestly, if Tito were to beat Machida and ink a new deal where he went on a 4-5 win tear over guys like Shogun, Wandy, Thiago Silva, Forrest, or even Jardine, I don’t think anyone on this forum would question whether Tito earned the right to fight for the belt again.

You had your opportunity and lost.

Even Rich Franklin had to win against Jason Mcdonald and Okami before he got back to Anderson Silva. GSP fought Kos and Hughes, now earned the right to take on Serra.

Stop living on past accomplishments and go earn it again.

by TABASCOsauce on Jan 22, 2008 1:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Love him or hate him, Tito is one of the reasons that MMA is where its at today. He is one of the biggest draws the UFC has. If Dana was smart, he’d do all he could to not lose another marquee fighter in the span of one year.It would suck to see him leave the UFC.

You hit the nail right on the head. He sells PPV.

by BOSS on Jan 22, 2008 2:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana is burning way too many bridges recently, and its going to come back and bite him in the ass. H’es been relieing too much on big name new comers who can’t make the grade.

THANK U MAN U R RIGHT

by DAVID on Jan 22, 2008 2:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito, you say that as long as Dana is the president, you’ll never get a title shot.

Well Tito, last time I checked you’ve lost to Chuck Liddell twice, had a draw to Rashad Evans, and controversial win to Forest Griffin…oh, and you’ve beaten Ken Shamrock 3 times.

How the hell do you deserve a title shot?

You’d have to have like 8 straight wins in the UFC to even entertain the idea…and c’mon, that ain’t gonna happen – especially with the fierceness of the LHW division.

Don’t get me wrong, you done alot for the sport, but your constant bitching about money is making me ill.

Look at Chuck Liddell, he made $500,000 at UFC 79 and that was the best fight I’ve seen since being a fan…is he complaining…NO.

If you’re gonna complain, at least have some reasoning behind it. Better yet, just go do your lame-ass hollywood thing and spare the UFC, and us fight fans with your whining.

UMM LETS SEE HES PUT A LOT BEHIND IT DANA HAS PROVED THAT ITS ALL ABOUT HIM AND NOT THE FIGHTERS. TITO ROCKS

by DAVID on Jan 22, 2008 2:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

HEY YOU GUYS. MAN I LOVE TITO AND IM A HUGE FAN BUT I THINK HE NEEDS TO STOP IN MMA. TO ME HE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST FIGHTERS OF ALL TIME AND NO DOUBT A HALL OF FAMER. BUT ITS TIME TO GO HES NOT FOCUSED ON HIS TRAINING NO MORE HE DOESNT LIKE SHOTS TO THE FACE . BUT HE IS A GREAT FIGHTER SO TITO LOVE YOU MAN AND HOPE ALL THE BEST FOR YOU WHEN YOU WIN TELL DANA TO FUCK OFF THAT SON OF A BITCH KEPP YOUR HEAD UP TITO MAN ILL NEVER FORGET YA

by DAVID on Jan 22, 2008 2:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

very true well said

by phil on Jan 22, 2008 3:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really don’t see tito GnP machida the way he did against shamrock..

by shamo84 on Jan 22, 2008 4:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

tito only lost to 2 fighters in the last 7 or 9 years.. randy and chuck. he is asking for an increase due to that UFC is getting more attention now, than the last time he signed. AND PS: TITO PUTS BUTTS IN THE SEATS.

by titoortizfan on Jan 22, 2008 4:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

seems like the UFC is going to be losing Arlovski, Couture, and Tito. It will be big if an organization can sweep up and grab these 3. People love to watch Tito, whether they are Tito fans or just want to watch him get his ass kicked. He sells.

by Chris W on Jan 22, 2008 5:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

newsflash————
 Tito Cant win against Machida and he knows it.

by Wildman Fanatic on Jan 22, 2008 6:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think even tito haters may want him to win to piss dana off. Its a f**king joke if they lose him because he is clearly good enough for the ufc still.

by Tony on Jan 22, 2008 7:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Guys…

We all agree that Tito is a whiner…
We all agree that the UFC is cheap…
We all agree like it or not that Randy and Tito are good business men…

Now lets ask ourselves why the star power of these two dont get down to business and create thier own Cage fighting Company.

I think there is definitly room outthere in the world for more organizations. And if someone could bring the majority together for an all-star brawl it would be the biggest in ppv.

Actually all the big names that no-one wants or wont please should do the IFL Team thing.

by Yikes on Jan 22, 2008 7:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This would be some on that M-1 could pick up, then maybe they will have 3 fighters instead of 2. On the serious note I really do see some one like M-1 or HDnet (Mark Cuban) going after him. Maybe if one of these smaller organizations become real competition for the UFC then maybe they will take care of their fighters better than they do.

by jimmy_dean on Jan 22, 2008 8:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am on hear day and night Bashing Dana white, but I will have to side with him on this one. Tito makes a ton of money to fight and he really is not worth the money that he is making. He isn’t a real fighter anyway. He is an entertainer and a businessman. Leave it at that. I am happy to see him gone from the UFC. He has ruined countless big fights in the last 2 years with his boring style, and cage grabbing….Lets be honest….Tito has been done for some time now. I will have to agree with Dana on this one.

I hope as a farewell gift Machida kicks his watermelon-like head into the nose bleed sections

by john on Jan 22, 2008 8:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

P.S What the hell has happened to Rashad Evans. I have not been watching him, is he fighting anytime soon?

He’s supposedly fighting Thiago Silva at UFC 85…the same card as this fight. It’s shaping up to be a pretty slick card so far.

WAR RASHAD!

by Buster Bluth on Jan 22, 2008 8:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana White is gonna be a guy in ten years that people are going to ask, “what do you think he’s doing now?” He’s been terrible at dealing with people and the UFC is going down with him.
Its almost time for Mark Cuban to take over the sport. Dana White messed up a network television deal, and Cuban is going to get it now. After that its only a matter of time until the UFC is something we remember nostalgically.
Go M-1, the future.

How can you say that because they have Fedor and the possibility of landing a washed up Tito Ortiz. Even if they get Couture, they have a washed up Tito a one time Fedor and Couture fight. The game is in the UFC. The brand is so strong that nobody is going to focus on the other promotions. You do not hear people saying my goal is to be the best mma champ that Elite XC or IFL or World Combat league anyone has seen. UFC is to MMA what the NY Yankees are to baseball. Yeah people love to hate on them, bitch about the way they do things, but their continued success is what makes them what they are. Kids all over the world grow up talking about how they want to be a NY Yankee not a Baltimore Oriole. The same holds true for the UFC. They put MMA on the map in the states. Dana White and the Fertitta brothers are the one that took a chance on a floundering company and made it what it is today. People are always critical of the elite.

Tito Ortiz has had his day, made his mark, and is a fighter who helped make MMA and the UFC what it is today, everyone can agree with that. But today is a new day and there is no room for an ego of his caliber who can not win. How can you critisize the UFC and Dana White, because he no longer can win? So Dana White should give him more money to keep losing because his ego tells him that he is a champ. Wow! you know he has serious mental defects thinking that he can lose and put in poor performances and still get a raise. I wish I could pull that off at my job. Since 2002 his last 10 fights he has thre wins against a washed up Ken Shamrock, a BS win over Forrest(which everyone except the judges and Tito felt Forrest won), a BS draw vs. Rashad (which most people thought Rashad won). He eeked out a decision against a Vito Belfort. Thus leaving him with one real win against a non-experienced, first time in the big show, PAtrick Cote during his UFC debut and that still went to the cards. Wow Tito you deserve the big money like Jenna deserves sainthood for all of her chaste living.

by Da Monkey on Jan 22, 2008 8:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

M-1 wont want tito, but other organizations might. I doubt Tito will ever fight again. He isnt a fighter he is a damn good businessmen and entertainer. Look for Tito to join the WWE or TNA wrestling, if you want to call that wrestling, or continuing one of his many business ventures.

As for Machida vs. Tito…..horrible match up! No disrespect to Loyoto, who posses all the skills one can want in a fighter, but his style and tito’s style could equate into a BORING fight.

Then again, it could be exciting, Machida is a ghost out there who’s footwork makes him close to untouchable, if he can use his footwork to keep the fight standing, he could tag tito up pretty bad. If Tito gets Loyoto down it could go 2 ways:

1: Tito could contro Loyoto, stay in his guard for a typical boring, skill less classic Ortiz fight,

or as my boy PHILQNY previously stated:
 loyoto is a beast at grappling, hopefully if Tito lands in his guard Loyoto can submit him.

Either way I am excited to get Tito out of the UFC. With all the money they were paying Tito, they had to use him as a co-main event fight at the very least, so it bumped more deserving co-main event fights off the cards. With Tito not being around to fill the co-main event slot on fight cards…cards will get better

by john on Jan 22, 2008 8:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

“I was worth no more than what I’m getting now”? Why would Tito think that he’d be worth more now?

good point…..I didnt understand that comment at all. He seems to be worth less then half of what he once was….He should be making like $8,000 a fight, not $250,000

GOOD RIDDENS!!!

by john on Jan 22, 2008 8:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

mma mania
Have you seen wildman post anything else? Im a big fan. And you should do an article on him.

by Wildman Fanatic on Jan 22, 2008 8:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

There is an interesting video on youtube of Anderson Silva demonstarting his tai clinch to Liddells trainer hackerman

Any Idea as to why and when this occured?

by john on Jan 22, 2008 8:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

the truth is, i like tito alot but i picked chuck and randy and forrest over him, one thing is a fact this guy sells seats for the UFC wether you like him or not he is damn good for the business , i have never missed one of his fights wether it is to see him get KOd or to see him prove me wrong, and i bet you alot of you haters still watch his fights and buy the PPVs, i hope he comes in and destroys Machida imagine what that will do to the division, holly crap it would be a mess although i have to admit i would much rather watch tito fight anybody any day of the week rather than watch Machida. So plz Tito kick some ass get some respect and keep fighting, i think the only reason why Tito isnt motivated is how far he is from his title but, beat this guy and hes back for the hunt, not likely that he will win it but, hell

by hector on Jan 22, 2008 9:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really hate Tito but I have to say I hate Dana even more, if that ever were possible. I want Machida to win as a fellow Brazilian, but to see Danas face if Tito won and his interview after the fight would be priceless. Machida is, even thoug most wont agree with me, one of MMAs best fighter and a real threat to the LH division and Dana is sure that Tito wont be able to defeat him. If it did happen though Tito would have all the bragging rights and the UFC will be in the shit. Letting Tito go, lawsuits against Couture, not being able to sign Fedor, letting Arlovski go, relying too much on unproven fighters like Lesnar, failed television rights with HBO, publicly disrespecting CroCop, the release of Babalu, Dana acting as an ass all year round, having some crap Main Events with fighters like Bisping just to market the UFC abroad. This is all rubbish. Dana has done a good job for the UFC in the past but come on. The last two years he has really messed things up. Get someone in there who is a real professional and keen on putting a good show and act responsably infront of the public other than someone who publicly disses any fighter he cant sign or has a falling out with. This is business and a president shouldnt take pleasure at disrespecting a fighter he had a falling out with just for pleasure. Get Dana out of there before its too late.

by JJ on Jan 22, 2008 9:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here’s the thing. Given what a lot of the top guys earn Tito does not deserve to get paid more than he currently does. Fair enough he is a big draw; that reason alone means he gets paid more than a less charismatic and lesser known fighter of the same caliber.

But unquestionably his stock has dropped and he no longer is the UFC poster boy. They now have many big names who are equally has marketable and savy.

I think Tito got $300,000 just to show against Rashad. I wonder what Anderson and GSP get just to show. I doubt it’s even a third what Tito gets.

by RobH86 on Jan 22, 2008 9:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Screw M-1….UFC 4 LIFE

by kickinthehead on Jan 22, 2008 9:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Machida is probably a top 3 LHW right now who should face the winner of Rampage-Griffin. What bigger fight does Tito want? He sure as hell doesn’t deserve a title shot, if that’s what he’s thinking. Tito’s fights are no longer compelling. He needs some sort of phony controversy to attract attention, i.e. Rashad is a nappy-headed ho, Chuck has my belt and I’m taking it back, etc. He wouldn’t even rematch Rashad after cheating his way to a draw. And if he rematched Griffin after that dubious decision he got, Forrest would tear him apart in less than two rounds. Tito has not evolved with the sport, and for some reason he still fancies himself a LHW title contender when he can barely be considered top 10. Good bye and good riddance Tito.

by pw on Jan 22, 2008 9:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is what it feels like to be washed up, he’s leaving the UFC with a loss cause Machida isn’t losing.

by Anonymousf*ck on Jan 22, 2008 9:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was never a Tito fan, but after reading an article posted on this site a few months ago he seemed like a real nice guy. Especially seeing his attitude towards helping his fighters on TUF. I never rooted for Tito in the past, but I would like to see him win this fight. It would mess up Machida’s plans for a shot at the title, which would be unfortunate, but most Machida matches go the distance. I hope to see an early stoppage in this fight. I’m also rooting for Tito on the Apprentice.

by Griffinfan05 on Jan 22, 2008 9:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’d love to see Tito beat him. Just to piss off Dana and the haters.

by Aaron_W on Jan 22, 2008 10:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am not a Tito fan myself, but as an MMA fan, I must say that he is one charismatic fighter with a personality that puts people in the seats. Love him or hate him, you got something to say about him and isn’t that what matters in the business known as the UFC?

by tripleainto on Jan 22, 2008 10:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why would Tito expect a bigger fight? Was he expecting to fight Wanderlei or Shogun?

The fact is that Tito hasn’t looked good in his last two appearances against top competition. He looked good against Ken Shamrock but that guy isn’t even in Tito’s league.

Tito wants too much money as usual and he needs to leave the UFC and see if he can sign with Strikeforce or Elite XC to put on a rematch with Frank Shamrock.

He’s not UFC caliber anymore and he knows it. Dana knows it and so does Lorenzo. That’s why he doesn’t want to fight Machida. He knows Machida’s gonna kick his ass and make him look bad.

by Jake on Jan 22, 2008 11:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think Tito was hoping for Shogun or maybe a Wandy fight. He does have a valid point that he should be able to get paid for what he does and what he does is put people in the seats and people buy his PPV’s. The #’s are out there and of the top pay per view events he is on a few of them. If you were in his shoes, I am sure you would demand the same.

We do need to see a hungry and angry TITO come into this fight and really show why he should be in the UFC. That could give him a new contract.

by Jo on Jan 22, 2008 11:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

sad to see him gone love the way ufc does business you get rid of randy, arlovski, now tito the franchise guys that pulled your business out of the mud, but yet boring timmy stays, who is next to go matt hughes?? these guys sell tickets for tito to be a bitch i don’t see his point he only fights like one or two a year, but even though he is a cry baby i have to side with tito on this one, i just don’t like how dana white thinks he is god or king the fertittas need to step in and take some power away from this man

by bryant on Jan 22, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where is Wildman??? He is driving behind people choking them out!!.. you should know that..RESPECT…. i dont wanna get started.. that was so funny. LMAO

by kickinthehead on Jan 22, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think fedor would pick him apart in 1 round
but at least the fans wouldnt be able to complain its not top competition

Since when was Tito Ortiz top competition in the HW divsion? I can’t even remember the last time he was top competition in the LHW divison…

by ViolentMike on Jan 22, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lets remember the facts.

1) Tito carried the UFC during the "dark days.

2) Tito has been involved in all of the biggest grossing MMA events on both PPV and TV. He also has been involved with most of the record breaking gates over time.

3) Dana gets a lot of credit for building the UFC’s business, but without the Fertitta’s deep pockets and some luck, the UFC would have failed and Dana would have been considered one of the sports worlds worst business leaders of all time.

4) Dana claims to be fan freindly, but he lets money get in the way of giving us fans what we want. All of the hall of famers are persona non grata, and Tito, who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, is never mentioned as a candidate.

by E Rush on Jan 22, 2008 12:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I dont like either one of these fighters but i think tito is gonna GNP this chump out!

by frankthetank on Jan 22, 2008 12:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito is right – Dana has an major ego issue and he doesn’t pay fighters enough.

But Tito sucks as a fighter and he hard sells himself too much.

Machida will cut through him.

Machida has beaten:

B.J. Penn
Franklin
McDonald
Sokoudjou

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=7513

I never bet on fights, since anything can happen, but I’m thinking about this one.

by sal costello on Jan 22, 2008 12:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Machida wins good for UFC.
If Tito wins its a Kick in the pants for the UFC if He decides to leave… … Money talks.

by Yikes on Jan 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really think Tito has to show the he can be a top competitor in the LHW division, his last fight against rashad wasn’t one of his best, and he has to stop making excuses every time he loses.

If he wins this fight in a dominating way, then the UFC should reconsider a new contract, if not good buy Tito, you may have better luck in low level competitions, like the IFL or EliteXc (he can fight Shamrock there)

by Diego on Jan 22, 2008 1:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here’s the thing. Given what a lot of the top guys earn Tito does not deserve to get paid more than he currently does. Fair enough he is a big draw; that reason alone means he gets paid more than a less charismatic and lesser known fighter of the same caliber.

But unquestionably his stock has dropped and he no longer is the UFC poster boy. They now have many big names who are equally has marketable and savy.

I think Tito got $300,000 just to show against Rashad. I wonder what Anderson and GSP get just to show. I doubt it’s even a third what Tito gets.

good point the problem is that tito puts more people in a seat then this fighters i know people that dont know shit about the ufc but the know who tito ortiz is.

by daniel on Jan 22, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i read all this crap about tito that he hasent performe well
but at least he dose not lose against the lower competition
like big name fighters like CROCOP LIDDEL SHOGUN
EX
CROCOP VS KONGO
LIDDEL VS JARDINE
SHOGUN VS FOREST

by daniel on Jan 22, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Listen…if there is anyone in the MMA fan base who dislikes watching Tito Ortiz fights it is this guy. Fact of the matter is if you look at his win/loss record he has last four losses have been against the likes of Chuck Liddell/Rand Couture/Frank Shamrock.

Two of those losses are due to Chuck Liddell. True he got spanked in both fights. But I ask you…what do you think would happen if you put Chuck in the octagon against Jackson again…don’t think it would be much for competition again.

True his match with Rashard Evans was a lack luster. But did Tito not put on a wrestling clinic against Evans? So, I ask everyone this why not give Tito the money…did he not man handle the number one contender for the light heavyweight title?

In closing I say just this…good-bye Tito and I hope you sign with the competition for less money. Cause to be quite honest I am getting sick and tired of Dana White trying to force feed me who he thinks are the big names in UFC.

by TBlades07 on Jan 22, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Listen…if there is anyone in the MMA fan base who dislikes watching Tito Ortiz fights it is this guy. Fact of the matter is if you look at his win/loss record he has last four losses have been against the likes of Chuck Liddell/Rand Couture/Frank Shamrock.

Two of those losses are due to Chuck Liddell. True he got spanked in both fights. But I ask you…what do you think would happen if you put Chuck in the octagon against Jackson again…don’t think it would be much for competition again.

True his match with Rashard Evans was a lack luster. But did Tito not put on a wrestling clinic against Evans? So, I ask everyone this why not give Tito the money…did he not man handle the number one contender for the light heavyweight title?

In closing I say just this…good-bye Tito and I hope you sign with the competition for less money. Cause to be quite honest I am getting sick and tired of Dana White trying to force feed me who he thinks are the big names in UFC.

“number 1 contender for the LHW title”, lol you made me laugh, you must be missing some brain cells.

by hector on Jan 22, 2008 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate tito ortiz but for the ufc to say he is not needed is crazy he is a top five draw and i always order cards that he is on just to watch him get beat up. The ufc is making a stupid move by letting this guy walk.

by matt on Jan 22, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate Tito and I cant wait to see him GO AWAY, but I hope that after his loss to Machida in his post fight interview with Joe Rogan, I hope he verbally bashes the hell out of Dana White! He should then end the interview by flipping dana the double bird like he did to shamrock and walk out and go bang his skanky girlfreind!

by john on Jan 22, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He’s supposedly fighting Thiago Silva at UFC 85…the same card as this fight. It’s shaping up to be a pretty slick card so far.

WAR RASHAD!


This is the best blogger name ive ever seen. Buster BLuth!!!

by The Anomaly on Jan 22, 2008 2:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“I was expecting a bigger fight. I think the fans were expecting a bigger fight. I got pressed into it, and all of a sudden, it’s all over the Internet that Tito Ortiz won’t fight Machida… I’m not as viable to them anymore. That was a sign of disrespect….”

Tito is so full a crap. He complains about being disrespected by the UFC, but that’s exactly what he’s doing to Machida. What a hipocrite. Machida belongs with the top LHWs. Tito wants a bigger fight? Machida is legit, and he will make Tito eat his words.

The only other fight I would like to see for Tito would be Wanderlei. I would love to see Tito get pounded by the Axe Murderer.

by Andy on Jan 22, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito is so full a crap. He complains about being disrespected by the UFC, but that’s exactly what he’s doing to Machida. What a hipocrite. Machida belongs with the top LHWs. Tito wants a bigger fight? Machida is legit, and he will make Tito eat his words.

The only other fight I would like to see for Tito would be Wanderlei. I would love to see Tito get pounded by the Axe Murderer.

Listen please dont let Tito fool you all. He wants a better opponent. BullS**t! Do any of you really believe that he would have accepted a fight against Shogun, wanderlei or Rampage…..Hell No…Tito is infamous for ducking top fighters. When Shogun wanted to fight him, he responded by saying he rather fight Rashad….come on man, I am so sick of this guy and all his crap. I cant respect any fighter who was a champion, that refused to defend his title against the #1 contender. Dont let him Fool you….we are fortunate that he even accepted a fight against such a good fighter as Machida

by john on Jan 22, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito is so full a crap. He complains about being disrespected by the UFC, but that’s exactly what he’s doing to Machida. What a hipocrite. Machida belongs with the top LHWs. Tito wants a bigger fight? Machida is legit, and he will make Tito eat his words.

The only other fight I would like to see for Tito would be Wanderlei. I would love to see Tito get pounded by the Axe Murderer.

Have you ever seen Tito’s first fight against Wanderlei back at UFC 25? The funniest thing I have ever seen in the Octagon happened in that fight:

Wanderlei cracked Tito with a punch, Tito immediately turned around with his back to wanderlei and literally ran as fast as he could to the other end of the cage with a furious wanderlei chacing after him….PRICELESS UFC moment. The way he was running you would have thought that the axe murderer was chasing him with an axe. It was classic Tito, duckin and running form the best!

by john on Jan 22, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Listen…if there is anyone in the MMA fan base who dislikes watching Tito Ortiz fights it is this guy. Fact of the matter is if you look at his win/loss record he has last four losses have been against the likes of Chuck Liddell/Rand Couture/Frank Shamrock.
Two of those losses are due to Chuck Liddell. True he got spanked in both fights. But I ask you…what do you think would happen if you put Chuck in the octagon against Jackson again…don’t think it would be much for competition again.

You forgot his loss to Guy Mezger. And no he is not a top contender for the LH title. I agree with Hector, you made me laugh with that comment!

by JJ on Jan 22, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito earned it in the past, and had a shot. Styles make good fights, and his style played poorly against Liddell’s stand-up.
    UFC will go on, with Tito or without him. It would be good business to exploit this “feud” with Dana White and keep Ortiz in the mix, but only if he’s training hard and can put up a credible effort. Talk is cheap: let’s see what he’s got in the ring.

by mu_shin on Jan 22, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito beats up machida then raises both middle figners to Dana.
Badbody – UFC – greatest show on earth

by Ktown on Jan 22, 2008 3:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

P.S What the hell has happened to Rashad Evans. I have not been watching him, is he fighting anytime soon?

    He’s supposedly fighting Thiago Silva at UFC 85…the same card as this fight. It’s shaping up to be a pretty slick card so far.

    WAR RASHAD!

This is the best blogger name ive ever seen. Buster BLuth!!!

The only name that would be better is Tobias Funke!!!!

by Chris W on Jan 22, 2008 5:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think tito is right dana white doesnt know shit he thinks he know wat the fans want but he doesnt noone can say they wouldnt watch tito fight lyoto is gonna get stomped and i hope tito get a contract from the ferttita bro and not white

by tc on Jan 22, 2008 5:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i’m not tito’s biggest fan or anything but i like him.several of you make good points.tito this or tito that.people are gonna watch him fight to see him win or lose.tito has a knack for stirring up a lot of shit and promoting his fights.i’d like to see him stick around for a little longer if his committed to fighting if not, more power to him in being a celebrity.but i’m mos def looking forward to him smashing machida,i cant stand machida,BORING AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!

by jdawg on Jan 22, 2008 5:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hope that Tito just fails and gives up MMA, I would hate to see him go to another org and do well.

by Metalhead on Jan 22, 2008 6:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito Sucks

by NewGuyTheGunMan on Jan 22, 2008 6:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Heck Tito can start his own mma tourney with his “billion dollar company”

So neener neener Dana White!

by ognitinoc on Jan 22, 2008 6:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey Imagine Tito won celebrity apprentice and started working for Donald Trump and then Trump thought with Tito they could build a brand to compete against UFC on home turf.

Tito’s best fighting days but the above situation could cause Dana a lot of lost sleep.

Machida in round one via go go plata.

by Big Zino on Jan 22, 2008 6:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

….
Titos best fighting days are over….

by Big Zino on Jan 22, 2008 6:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Toms Bombs – What are you talking about man?

(‘The days of Ground and Pound are over’)

Have you been watching UFC lately, or any other comps for that matter. It’s alive and well. Just because Tito can not effectively finish opponents on the ground anymore doesnt mean its over.

Check out UFC 80 for a few great examples of fighters pounding out opponents on the ground.

by DownUnder on Jan 22, 2008 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

THE MAN RETURNS!!!! but it seems to be his last fight…dana dont do this to yourself and the ufc…..you all know that tito sells ppv fights just like randy does…ufc this is a big mistakeif you let this former lightweight champ walk away just like you did randy…heck if tito wants to keep on fighting i hope he goes to mm1 with fedor and soon randy just to drive the ufc into the ground like its headed anyway.

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Jan 22, 2008 10:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

….
Titos best fighting days are over….

tito losing to machida…lol son you done lost your mind…as soon a tito beats this character all we will hear is oh…..he didnt fight anyone…well its the ufc not tito. walk in the park victory…heck tito i wouldnt even train to fight this bum!!!!going out with a win,,,,,,ortiz time baby!!!!!!1

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Jan 22, 2008 10:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hope that Tito just fails and gives up MMA, I would hate to see him go to another org and do well.

im in the same boat pal i hate to see him go also cause he does sell ppv,but if he goes the tito fans lik myself will follow

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Jan 22, 2008 10:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito beats up machida then raises both middle figners to Dana.
Badbody – UFC – greatest show on earth

THATS RIGHT BABY….like the sound of that!

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Jan 22, 2008 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

dude i like ortiz,he is a good competitor,sells ppv and is funny.when he said im gonna make rashad my nappy headed hoe, that was insainly funny.gotta love him.WAR TITO

by box91 on Jan 22, 2008 11:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with butterteeth DANA put aside your “BULLSHIT” if TITO wins big you must resign him & put a match with TITO & Evans then we will see who is telling the truth ! P.S. Dana I love what you have done for this sport dont screw it up like DON KING did with boxing !

by Extreme Clown on Jan 23, 2008 7:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

M-1 wont want tito, but other organizations might. I doubt Tito will ever fight again. He isnt a fighter he is a damn good businessmen and entertainer. Look for Tito to join the WWE or TNA wrestling, if you want to call that wrestling, or continuing one of his many business ventures.

As for Machida vs. Tito…..horrible match up! No disrespect to Loyoto, who posses all the skills one can want in a fighter, but his style and tito’s style could equate into a BORING fight.

Then again, it could be exciting, Machida is a ghost out there who’s footwork makes him close to untouchable, if he can use his footwork to keep the fight standing, he could tag tito up pretty bad. If Tito gets Loyoto down it could go 2 ways:

1: Tito could contro Loyoto, stay in his guard for a typical boring, skill less classic Ortiz fight,

or as my boy PHILQNY previously stated:
loyoto is a beast at grappling, hopefully if Tito lands in his guard Loyoto can submit him.

Either way I am excited to get Tito out of the UFC. With all the money they were paying Tito, they had to use him as a co-main event fight at the very least, so it bumped more deserving co-main event fights off the cards. With Tito not being around to fill the co-main event slot on fight cards…cards will get better

M-1 won’t want Tito? Have you ever heard the expression controversy sells? People all over the U.S. watch his fights because there are people that want to see him lose and people that want to see him win and to think that an orginization is gonna be successfull with Fedor alone is crazy. Yeah Tito maybe a washed up one dimensional coward but he sells ppv’s and he puts butts in seats. I think M-1 would take Tito in a heartbeat.

by jimmy_dean on Jan 23, 2008 8:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I clearing stating that he man-handled the now number one contender for the light heavyweight title…“Forrest Griffin”…so I guess you are the one short a couple of brain cells…lol.

by TBlades07 on Jan 23, 2008 5:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You forgot his loss to Guy Mezger. And no he is not a top contender for the LH title. I agree with Hector, you made me laugh with that comment!

Guy Mezger was his second fight in MMA. And once again I simply stated that he man-handled Forest Griffin is currently the number one contender for light heavyweight.

by TBlades07 on Jan 23, 2008 5:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

GO TITO!

by Rilly on Jan 24, 2008 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don’t drop Tito Dana.

I get the feeling that Dana is starting to think that UFC is bigger than the sport of MMA.

I agree with some of the other punters. If Tito goes i’ll be following him.

by Rilly on Jan 24, 2008 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Im just gonna put it out there… i bet money on the fact that tito will beat machida… then shogun… then fight rampage because forest will win… he will the submit forest by inverted triangle standing up… randy will come back and drop to lightheavyweight and lose… then in the rubber match randy will win fedor will drop to 205 and fight randy and it will end in a draw….Royce Gracue will come back and submit both randy and fedor at the same time… and a small asteroid will crash in the octagon and aliens will fight in the UFC

Just a thought…

by Jose H on Jan 25, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Im just gonna put it out there… i bet money on the fact that tito will beat machida… then shogun… then fight rampage because forest will win… he will the submit forest by inverted triangle standing up… randy will come back and drop to lightheavyweight and lose… then in the rubber match randy will win fedor will drop to 205 and fight randy and it will end in a draw….Royce Gracue will come back and submit both randy and fedor at the same time… and a small asteroid will crash in the octagon and aliens will fight in the UFC

Just a thought…

royce gracie? he cant beat hughes.

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Jan 26, 2008 11:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

dude your throwed off!

by tony ellis on Jun 4, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

royce gracie? he cant beat hughes.

it was a joke :S

by Jose H on Jan 27, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

TITO IS WAS 1 OF MY TOP 2 OR 3 FIGHTERS BUT NOW HE WANTS TO B A STAR INSTEAD OF A FIGHTER…BE IN THE GOSSIP MAGS DO ALL THAT CRAP…IF HE WANTS TO DO THAT SEE U LATER TITO

IF THE FIGHTER TITO COMES BACK THEN PLEASE STAY TITO

I don’t know why, but I have a strange feeling that tito is opening his own fighting company or possibly buying one of the other big but not so big named companys (elite xc, strikeforce, cage rage). Call me crazy, but that would make sense and he does have the money to do it. Because in his video “ortiz turns 33” on here, he says he has big big news later this year (when his contract expires) and he’s been talking about the roles of being a good president of a fighting company, and most recently been talking about the “Business mind of Ortiz.” Seems as though he’s trying to prep up the news for the big whammy that he’s going to have his own company. Last fight in the ufc. Bashing Dana on his presidentorial job. Announces that he’ll be announcing big big news at the end of this year. Call me crazy or optimistic, whatever you may, but I wouldn’t be shocked at all if that was Tito’s big news. And that is most likely the only way that he’ll be getting the money he wants (AND THEN SOME.)

by sirJerksalot on Jan 28, 2008 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don’t drop Tito Dana.

I get the feeling that Dana is starting to think that UFC is bigger than the sport of MMA.

I agree with some of the other punters. If Tito goes i’ll be following him.

SAME HERE!

by sirJerksalot on Jan 28, 2008 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok, so I live in New Jersey and am a huge fan of ortiz, and when I see news like this…… Well, I have to drive out to the fight. WHO’S COMING WITH ME??

by sirJerksalot on Jan 28, 2008 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito bitching again, what a suprise. Tito hasn’t had a good fight for a long time now. he wants to blame his poor performances on everyone but himself. he used to be an exceptional fighter, and when he was on top he could get away with being a prick. but the way that he has been fighting it was just a matter of time before the ufc dropped him. I at least hope that he gives Machida a good fight. if tito can come out and is ready to really fight this could be a good one. But I still hope that Machida whoops his ass

by thefan on Jan 31, 2008 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tito Tito Tito!!!!!

No more 3rd world fighters….He needs to fight some class, not classless.

Rock em sock em back to the brazilian rainforest…

TITO’S THE MAN!!!!

by Daynawhyte on Feb 10, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

tito’s a great fighter, but the way he has been performing, its kinda of scary watching him go up against someone like machida. I want tito to win but, he really needs to shape up if he wants to defeat machida. Tito needs to tap back to the old tito fighting style where he didn’t really give a F**K and kicked ass. He seems to hold that thought of losing in the back of his heads during the fight which screws him up… Wish you the best TITO

by john on Apr 26, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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