Bigger Name? I guess he wants Shamrock again? Tito knows he wont make it past round 2 with Machida.

haha sissy.

Im thinking that would be a good match up. But Tito wants a canner. He wants a big win. Well see what happens.

Number 1 ha ha.

But on the topic. Tito needs to accept this fight. Machida is a big enough name for him because he don’t stand a chance against anyone with a bigger name. He hasn’t fought in awhile and his last few fights have been average at best. He needs to come out dominate Machida and prove he even should still be fighting at this level or maybe move to Elite XC or something.

damn number 3

I hope we see a new Tito (which is possible) but still i dont see him beating Machida – infact i dont see anyone beating Machida – except the Iceman. As much as id like to see Machida take the belt, id also like to see him drop to MW if Silva loses the belt. The MW cant touch Machida.

In all honesty, Machida should be the one looking past Ortiz, because Tito’s star has long faded. Hell, he only had a title shot with Chuck only because Chuck cleaned out the 205 division and UFC had to do something interesting.

Tito can wait all he likes to get a shot at someone he thinks is worth his while, but quite frankly who can he really beat?

Rampage? Not likely
Forrest? Not the next time
Chuck? MUHAHAHAHAHA!

Machida vs Tito fight makes no sense for UFC, If Machida beats Tito should he fight for the belt, no, he should fight Chuck for the #1 contender. Tito should not take this fight as it does not do anything for him except getting thrown out from UFC if he looses. Tito should not fight any big names now(Shogun, Belfort)if he wants to stay in UFC.

Jacob Christopher Ortiz will not know how to handle Machida’s odd style of stand up. And I cannot see Machida falling for a take town, which is Ortiz only line of defense. As far as a bigger name opponent goes, I dont think he really wants one. Ortiz vs. Shamrock three stikeforce?

I think tito knows that he would lose this fight and he wants to fight someone of a bigger name cause if he gets luckey it will shoot him up in the ranks. i can see dana only giving him 2 options its either machida or evans

This is a useless fight for Machida. He’s easily a top 5 LHW. Cheato is barely top 10. A win for Machida, which he should get fairly easily, isn’t going to move him up the ranks toward a title shot. Of course, this could just be the UFC putting Machida in a holding pattern while they wait for the Rampage-Griffin winner.

How about Ortiz vs. Shamrock vs. Shamrock in a triple threat cage match. Is that a big enough fight for this a** clown.

Machida is like the only top fighter that even wants to waste their time fighting Tito. I think its a stupid idea. Beating Tito doesnt get him closer to a title shot then he currently is.
The only possible reasons I can think of for Machida actually wanting to fight the has-been that is Tito is that it would be a bigg money Fight and Machida might be looking for that paper.

Personally I doubt that Tito will accept this fight. Out of Machida, Chuck and Shogun, two of them should be fighting each other with the odd man out fighting Jardine.

Man, Ortiz doesn’t make anything easty does he? It frustrates me that he continues to duck tough competition. Part of me likes Ortiz. He seems to appreciate his fans and I respect that he went to Iraq for the troops. He’s such a prima donna though.

I would actually like to see Ortiz of old. I’d like to see him in the title mix. Ortiz is a very polarizing figure, but he sells lots of tickets.

Machida isn’t as good as everybody is saying. Sokoudjou is not the fighter Tito is. Machida is doing good, and Tito is the right name for him because Tito is a big tough guy, and if he does well against him then he will be ready for bigger names. So as for me I hope Tito makes him eat some elbows and leaves him asleep on the mat, but thats just me

Tito Ortiz is not going to accept the fight with Machida. The reason is simple – because he can not beat him. Tito wants to fight a “bigger name” but he’ll only fight that person if he is pretty much guaranteed to win. Right now, I can’t think of any “big names” in the LHW division that Tito can beat regularly. Is he thinking more along the lines of Keith Jardine? Is that who Tito wants to fight next?

Tito doesn’t want to fight. He just wants attention.

Machida only lacks one thing to be champion, and that is aggressiveness. Hope he works on that with the spider, "cause if he doesn’t he’ll never get the title shot. He has all the tools to keep beating everyone in front of him, but he needs to be a little less careful and become more aggressive and take chances. Otherwise ppl will not stand him as champion.

Bigger Name? I guess he wants Shamrock again? Tito knows he wont make it past round 2 with Machida.

Really. Machida has dominated everyone he has stepped in there with. Tito absolutely is dodging a fight he knows will end with him losing.

Machida only lacks one thing to be champion, and that is aggressiveness. Hope he works on that with the spider, "cause if he doesn’t he’ll never get the title shot. He has all the tools to keep beating everyone in front of him, but he needs to be a little less careful and become more aggressive and take chances. Otherwise ppl will not stand him as champion.

Here is the thing, though (and it’s ironic): Machida was actually more aggressive before he started training with Silva. It really doesn’t make any sense, because Silva is really agressive. But, if you watch his earlier fights, Machida used to throw a lot more leather. It may just be that he has the title so in-focus, that he is afraid of taking a step backwards. I think all fighters need to take the same angle as Wandi: Win or lose, make sure you are in an exciting fight.

Tito’s still living in 2002 – Wake up dude, you have to earn fights with “Bigger names!”

If Tito wants a big name, give him The Axe Murderer!

Machida should be the one asking for a fight with a bigger name.

machida should get a title shot this time this year. i dont think he should fight tito, imo, hes a gatekeeper.

After Machida tools Cheato his next fight should be the Rampage-Forrest winner.

youre all right that tito isnt the best 205er out there but i give him as much of a chance as beating machida as anybody just for the fact that styles make fights….unless machida fights a seasoned guy like chuck with crazy knockout power hes going to win the standup and just pick ppl apart from the outside…itd take somebody bigger and stronger than him to push him against the fence, take him down and gnp him…tito could be that guy hes got the style to beat a guy like machida

The UFC knows that Machida fighting Tito is just a holding pattern. It’s a filler fight. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be fun to watch, but it doesn’t benefit either guy much, regardless of the outcome.

I agree with NDKarl. Plus I dont really understand this Tito is washed up business. He has beaten Forrest, who is now fighting for the title, and would have beat rashad evans if he did not grab the fence. I still think he is a top 5 205 and is the perfect match at the perfect timing for Machida. Lets see how Machida does against somebody who has arguably the best GnP in the game and is gonna put his face in a fence. I honestly think Tito takes this if he accepts.

RyGuy13 – Had, not has. And I’d rank him maybe top 10. He’s not in the top 5 any longer.

Machida is skilled and all but i cant stand watching him fight.He so boring.peck and run,peck and run, and repeat.

ATTENTION: This is exactly whats going to happen,

Tito v Belfort

Here is Why:
Belfot and Tito hate eachother more than Tito – Shamrock. Belfort has been rumored that he is returning to the UFC and mentioned his hatred for Tito. Neither are contenders for the belt and its a so called “grudge match” that Tito is infamous for. Win for Tito gives him bragging rights because Belfort thinks he won there last fight, and Belfort gets welcomed back to the LHW division and fans like Belfort.. See it all makes sense. Nothing else would for Tito.

jdawg – Then you must favor the strikers. ;-) I’m a much bigger fan of BJJ and counterstriking. Machida is probably my favorite fighter in the UFC right now, but that’s only after going back and re-watching his UFC fights. Before that, I didn’t really get why his game mattered. Joe Rogan’s commentary convinced me, then I started digging Machida’s strategy. And I predicted he’d take Sokou… including that it would be by early stoppage, something Machida is not known for.

A bigger name huh? Ok Tito this is just for you, so you want a BIG name so let’s name a few who I’m sure according to you is not:
Machida, Evans, Jardine, Griffin, Houston, T.Silva so those I’m sure aren’t good enough, a BIG name geez, who could you want?
Shogun Rua? Wanderlei Silva? Rampage Jackson? Chuck Liddell?
You fight any of the above 4 names and your head will roll like dice. So I hope you do get a BIG name so you can get crushed and KTFO!

I would love to see Thiago Silva and Machida. Just imagine how badass that would be. To me that would be as big as Chuck and Wandy was!

i still wanna see machida fight jardine with the winner facing the winner or rampage/griffin. tito should fight shogun, wandi again, or thiago silva.

tito/belfort would be fun too

any bigger name will beat tito

I would love to see Thiago Silva and Machida. Just imagine how badass that would be. To me that would be as big as Chuck and Wandy was!

Huh? We wanted to see Chuck/Wanderlei for about 5 years. We kind of want to see Machida/Thiago for less than 5 weeks (since each of their most recent victories). 5 years ago if someone said “LyotoMachidaVSThiagoSilva” kind of fast, I would look at them like they had 3 heads.

But I do agree that it would be a badass fight, and I would really be looking forward to it. But Chuck/Wanderlei was the Most Anticipated Fight in MMA history. The next fight in line for that title is Randy/Fedor. I do not see Lyoto/Thiago making that list for quite some time. Plus the excitement level of a Lyoto/Thiago would be no where near the level of Chuck/Wanderlei.

But I do understand what you were saying. I don’t feel like doing any work right now, and there hasn’t been many new posts to comment on…

Tito wants a bigger name :) He can’t even get past Rashad properly. To be honest, I actually see Tito fighting Shogun.

jdawg – Then you must favor the strikers. ;-) I’m a much bigger fan of BJJ and counterstriking. Machida is probably my favorite fighter in the UFC right now, but that’s only after going back and re-watching his UFC fights. Before that, I didn’t really get why his game mattered. Joe Rogan’s commentary convinced me, then I started digging Machida’s strategy. And I predicted he’d take Sokou… including that it would be by early stoppage, something Machida is not known for.

your right! i do favor the strikers.i wanna watch the fighters stay in the pocket and touch leather.dont get me wrong i know bjj is a great part of this sport,and i like watching some of the bjj guys too.its just machida’s style i dont like.its like he’s scared to get hit.i like watching certain bjj guys fight,i really like nick and nate diaz. constantly moving and staying busy.like that i like to watch,not lay on top of your oppent and wait for them to get fluster and make a mistake.besides who prefers and submission over a ko.not me.i know some guys do.the majority of ppl wanna see a ko.but i see what your saying,its just a matter of what entertains you.

I agr
ee with NDKarl. Plus I dont really understand this Tito is washed up business. He has beaten Forrest, who is now fighting for the title, and would have beat rashad evans if he did not grab the fence. I still think he is a top 5 205 and is the perfect match at the perfect timing for Machida. Lets see how Machida does against somebody who has arguably the best GnP in the game and is gonna put his face in a fence. I honestly think Tito takes this if he accepts.

Best Ground n POund in the game? thats not even arguable because that Title clearly belongs to King Fedor!

In my opinion, the number one top light heavyweight contender is Jardine who should be facing Rampage. So Jardine vs Machida is ideal.

Although it is more than obvious that Dana wants to demoralize and humiliate Tito, lets look at the facts. Tito has not lost to anyone other than Chuck since 2003. He has not been in fights with anyone that could be called a can since UFC 13 (maybe). He is also still recognized for the best GNP in the business. Before he gets labeled as “washed up” or worse, lets give him another chance to prove himself in the cage.

I really think Tito has a shot vs Machida.. but thats just me :P

Oh and no im not a tito nutthugger he anoys the shit out of me.

Best Ground n POund in the game? thats not even arguable because that Title clearly belongs to King Fedor!

Lets be real. Only someone who comes hard and drops bombs is going to beat Machida. Enter Houston Alexander

Lets be real. Only someone who comes hard and drops bombs is going to beat Machida. Enter Houston Alexander

He better stay off his back!

Yeah but King Fedor is not in the UFC. I know Dana tried to screw him and all, but that’s kind of like saying the best quarterback in Football plays arena football. How will you know unless he is constanly tested by great fighters? After Randy and maybe barnnett, then who? I guess the next 7 footer right out of the circus. M-1 will make it for a few fights but I know I’m not going to pay to see Fedor fight the next guy they can find.

if fedor can beat randy and barnett that would say enough for awhile since he has not fought top compition in 2 years and is still considered #1

Lets be real. Only someone who comes hard and drops bombs is going to beat Machida. Enter Houston Alexander

Seriously doubt it. Stylistically Houston would actually have a better chance against Rampage than Machida I believe. Lyoto is so elusive, he could possibly get the UD by striking but I think he’d probably get Houston to the ground and sub him.

Soko has the power and explosiveness that Houston has plus the heavy hands. Look what Machida did to him.

Lets be real. Only someone who comes hard and drops bombs is going to beat Machida. Enter Houston Alexander

Machida vs. Alexander would be more of a one-sided fight than Machida vs. Soko.

Put Machida in front of Chuck so we can see more of his takedown attempts lol.

Chuck doesn’t want the fight, but I want to see Machida vs Liddell. Then let Tito and Jardine fight. Shogun could fight the winner of Rashad Evans and Thiago Silva.

A bigger name huh? Ok Tito this is just for you, so you want a BIG name so let’s name a few who I’m sure according to you is not:
Machida, Evans, Jardine, Griffin, Houston, T.Silva so those I’m sure aren’t good enough, a BIG name geez, who could you want?
Shogun Rua? Wanderlei Silva? Rampage Jackson? Chuck Liddell?
You fight any of the above 4 names and your head will roll like dice. So I hope you do get a BIG name so you can get crushed and KTFO!

…..lol…his head would rool of the above four…lol,lets see he already beat wanderlai….if tito fights this machida dude all he would hear is he dont fight nobody…im tired of every one saying that!he deserves a opponent of his choice heck maybe even a title shot after griffin beats page….ortiz-griffin 2? i like the sound of that!

I actually thought Lyoto Machida was a better name and a better fighter than Rashad Evans….Tito, you bitch.

He better stay off his back!

Yeah, I am positive Machida would display that technique trumps strength in the Octagon.

I’m surprised they are asking Tito if he wants to take the Machida fight. Should be the other way around. What about Machida vs Shogun Rua? What is up with Shogun anyway? Okay, I’ll stop asking my own questions. Machida is definitely a top 5 guy. They’d been protecting him prior to the Soko fight. One more fight and then he should get a shot at Rampage/Forrest winner.

Tito should fight Wanderlei. I’m not sure who Machida can fight, maybe Jardine.

As I’m sure most of you know, Tito isn’t based on a regular contract, but rather one that is affected by PPV buys. With this said, which oppenent; Machida, Belfor or Shogun would help Tito bring in the most money? IMO I would think it’s either Belfor or Shogun.
When tito says that he wants to fight a bigger name, he means someone who will be able to bring a big draw. Let’s look at it this way, if Tito lost to Shogun, but still brought in a big draw, it wouldn’t really affect his standings (and wallet) throughout the division cause Shogun would probebly be the favorite in this fight. But if he lost to someone like Machida, then it would affect his standings and probebly not bring as much of a draw.
Tito “the business man” Ortiz isn’t as stupid as some of you think ;)

I’m actually under the impression (and some may call me delusional) that Machida would just about rape (figuratively) anyone in the LHW division.

His style is just so annoying.
He reminds me of a Pedro Rizzo that can’t be hit.

I just imagined a fight between Rizzo and Machida and died of boredom. Not so much because I’m criticizing those fighters, but because they’re both predominantly counter-punchers who will just stand there if you don’t do anything.

if fedor can beat randy and barnett that would say enough for awhile since he has not fought top compition in 2 years and is still considered #1

Yeah but King Fedor is not in the UFC. I know Dana tried to screw him and all, but that’s kind of like saying the best quarterback in Football plays arena football. How will you know unless he is constanly tested by great fighters? After Randy and maybe barnnett, then who? I guess the next 7 footer right out of the circus. M-1 will make it for a few fights but I know I’m not going to pay to see Fedor fight the next guy they can find.

Still u cant discredit the skills a fighter has just cuase you dont like the organization that he fights in. Its a fact, ask any fighter, any announcer and pretty much anyone envolved in mma except Dana White who is a lying hater who the best ground n pound fighter in the world is and 99.9% of them would say Fedor. Tito’s ground n pound is Basic old school fighting. I havent seen him pass the guard in like 5 years. He is strong and can hold you down, but his G n P is very basic. Put it to you this way if you are a new up and coming fighter that needs to learn ground n pound, u wouldnt want to learn Tito’s style, you would want to learnn Fedors and thats a FACT! Fedor revolutionized the art of Ground n pound!

That’s if Fedor can beat Randy, we’ll see but lets say he does.Then he beats Barnett. Can he Remain #1 off of those 2 fights alone for the rest of his career?

This conversation isnt about if Fedor is number one. Its about who has better ground n pound Feddor or Tito, and if your answer is Tito…God Help YOu!

This conversation isnt about if Fedor is number one. Its about who has better ground n pound Feddor or Tito, and if your answer is Tito…God Help YOu!

Still u cant discredit the skills a fighter has just cuase you dont like the organization that he fights in. Its a fact, ask any fighter, any announcer and pretty much anyone envolved in mma except Dana White who is a lying hater who the best ground n pound fighter in the world is and 99.9% of them would say Fedor. Tito’s ground n pound is Basic old school fighting. I havent seen him pass the guard in like 5 years. He is strong and can hold you down, but his G n P is very basic. Put it to you this way if you are a new up and coming fighter that needs to learn ground n pound, u wouldnt want to learn Tito’s style, you would want to learnn Fedors and thats a FACT! Fedor revolutionized the art of Ground n pound!

Tito does not even know how to pass guard.

Fedor revolutionized the guard pass – so much so that they named a move after him, the “Fedor Pass”. For those that don’t know, a Fedor Pass is when one fighter is on thier back, and the other is standing. This is when the fighter on their back keeps thier legs up off the ground looking to land upkicks. The standing opponent then swings an arm, slapping the legs off to one side, and meanwhile falling straight down on top of the opponent throwing a wicked right hand to the chin.

Fedor has yet to fight a good well rounded fighter like Couture, and until he has then stop ridding his nuts. Lets see how Fedor does against Andre and then hopefully the fight everyone wants will happen.

I think that Tito is a very ariticulate, well versed and down to earth person, as a matter of fact he is one of my favorite fighters as well as Lyoto Machida, who is not well known in America. He is well versed in Suma, Black belt in Karata aside from jujistu etc… very well rounded and he has been in the mma field almost all his life. He is very well known internationally, he has fought in k-1’s, pancrase as well as multiple fights in japan. He is very dedicated to his marshal arts both heart and soul. I feel he willl excel in ufc
because he is a true mix marshal artist( that is his life).

                     A fan of both tito & lyoto
                          and the mix marshal arts.
p.s: lyoto will conquer every fights in ufc, you can see it in his eyes.