GSP vs Anderson Silva in 2009??? Damn, that’d be a war! Winner takes crown of pound for pound best MMA fighter in the world.

GSP vs Anderson Silva in 2009??? Damn, that’d be a war! Winner takes crown of pound for pound best MMA fighter in the world.

There will be no Silva after Hendo!

GSP vs Anderson Silva in 2009??? Damn, that’d be a war! Winner takes crown of pound for pound best MMA fighter in the world.

Mannn .. got no words for that !

(pls let it happen, pls let it happen, pls let it happen)

GSP wont make it past Jon Fitch in the welterweight division…who is he tryn’ to kid????

185 maybe but going up to 205 is a stretch….the dude is not big enough.

185 maybe but going up to 205 is a stretch….the dude is not big enough.

My thoughts exactly. I think he’d do very well as a middle weight and has a good chance of de-throaning Anderson Silva. But to fight against LHW’s he’d be giving up too much size.

There will be no Silva after Hendo!

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. No Silva? Even if he loses..there will be always be a Anderson Silva..Henderson can beat Silva..but Silva could beat Henderson..My money is on Anderson Silva when he fights Dan and if he fights GSP within the next 5 yrs..my pick is the spidy. I’m a fan of all 3. BJ Penn up there as well. Best figher per weight class..

HH: Fedor
LHW: Page
MW:a)Silva b)Henderson
WW: GsP
LW: BJ Penn
FW: Urijah Faber

I can see GSP doing extremely well in MW, but I don’t see how GSP could be too competative with the LHWs. A lot of the LHWs would would be 30-40 lbs heavier.

as of right now i can see him moving through serra fitch and then parisyan i can see him being at 185 by the end of 08 and then i could see him fighting someone who would make him the number 1 contender and then going for the belt as for light hevey wieght he would have to get alot bigger but it could happen over the course of a few years

Mannn .. got no words for that !

(pls let it happen, pls let it happen, pls let it happen)

If that fight happens i think it could be fight of the year hell decade

wow! george is amazing but can he pull it off, only time will tell, but thats not for a long while so why bother talking about it

My thoughts exactly. I think he’d do very well as a middle weight and has a good chance of de-throaning Anderson Silva. But to fight against LHW’s he’d be giving up too much size.

His strenght and wrestling makes up for a lot of it though. Remember he trains with 205’ers like Rashad and is able to take em down pretty easily.

I am not saying he would win a title at 205.. All i am saying is he might suprise a lot of ppl because he can take almost anyone down.

Hendo will put a stop to him after he puts a stop to Silva’s reign.

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. No Silva? Even if he loses..there will be always be a Anderson Silva..Henderson can beat Silva..but Silva could beat Henderson..My money is on Anderson Silva when he fights Dan and if he fights GSP within the next 5 yrs..my pick is the spidy. I’m a fan of all 3. BJ Penn up there as well. Best figher per weight class..

HH: Fedor
LHW: Page
MW:a)Silva b)Henderson
WW: GsP
LW: BJ Penn
FW: Urijah Faber

Phil please check your email.

GSP is a class act. We should be happy to be fortunate enough to see a man with GSP’s abilities provide some weight jumping to prove his domination of the sport…What a cool guy to give us fans enteratinment like that…GSP brings hope to over weight people like me(206 lbs, 5’11)

I like the pictures!

The top 3 of the UFC!

GSP wont make it past Jon Fitch in the welterweight division…who is he tryn’ to kid????

He split-decisioned Diego Sanchez, and you’re sure he can beat GSP in a 5-round fight? Wow. He’ll put up a fight, but GSP wins 7 out of 10 times against Fitch.

I don’t think GSP can beat either Anderson or Hendo at MW right now, but with GSP so young, he could very well be the guy that those two pass the MW torch to. I don’t see any up-and-coming MW fighters who are on GSP’s level. The top 3 MW’s in the world are Silva, Hendo, and Lindland, with the youngest being Silva at 32.

But LHW is a pipe dream. Even though GSP walks around at around 205, the guys he’ll be fighting walk around at about 225. There are a few guys in LHW he could beat, but he won’t win a title.

Well, at least we know one thing, GSP doesn’t have confidence issues anymore lol.

He split-decisioned Diego Sanchez, and you’re sure he can beat GSP in a 5-round fight? Wow. He’ll put up a fight, but GSP wins 7 out of 10 times against Fitch.

sanchez is the only good named fighter he has fought

GSP is incredible, but he better not look past Fitch and Parisyan. Both of those guys have the ability to bang with GSP and possibly take the “W”. Hell, Serra did it and he’s not half the fighter of Fitch or Karo.
A move to middleweight would be fun to watch, but I agree with everyone else, at this point GSP would be crushed as a light heavyweight. I dont see him ever being able to hang at 205.

HE WILL NEVER WHOOP RAMPAGE’S ASS.

Guys he will blow by Serra and beat Fitch. Then he will Squeek out a decision vs Karo.

By then Hendo will have destroyed Silva and Test the waters fighting BISPING (DESTROYING HIM) Then he will lose to Henderson.

Just that simple.

He will never whoop RAMPAGE’S ass.Hell ,he will not whoop Anderson’s ass neither.

Why don’t you just moderate these nuts in your mouth.

GSP wont make it past Jon Fitch in the welterweight division…who is he tryn’ to kid????

I don’t think Fitch will even be a problem at all for St. Pierre. I think we are looking at the most dominating, athletic, talented fighter the UFC has yet to see. He will own the 170 title very soon, and then after that I think if he wanated the 185 title he could dethrone Henderson.

GSP is incredible, but he better not look past Fitch and Parisyan. Both of those guys have the ability to bang with GSP and possibly take the “W”. Hell, Serra did it and he’s not half the fighter of Fitch or Karo.
A move to middleweight would be fun to watch, but I agree with everyone else, at this point GSP would be crushed as a light heavyweight. I dont see him ever being able to hang at 205.

St. Peirre has beaten Parysian before, bloodied hime up bad.

I’m am picking Silva over Hendo in a damn exciting fight. If GSP fights either of them in the next three years I’m picking Silva or Hendo over Gsp

GSP WILL NEVER WHOOP RAMPAGE’S ASS.

GSP will never whoop Rampage,s ass in my lifetime.

I think Fitch will give him hell and that would be a very dangerous fight for GSP even after the schooling he put on against Hughes. Fitch is a larger WW and has the strength and technique to match GSP very well. Would depend more on if GSP is prepared mentally when he figures out he cannot dominate Fitch and has a fight on his hands. Kara doesn’t even belong in the same category as GSP and Fitch and besides he had the opportunity to fight Fight but turned it down. GSP is one of the greats at WW but I think Fitch will give him hell before coming out of this weight class and moving up.

ARE YOU GUYS CRAZY? This is the same guy that got dominated by Matt Serra in so many ways. He is definitely the best fighetr in the 170 division ( if he gets passed Serra, which i don’t think he will) but to think that he can beat Anderson?
Thats a question that raises doubt.
AND THE LHW division? HA KEEP Dreaming GSP.
Not happening guys, come back down from the CLOUDS!

If you moderate anymore of my comments, it’s going to be me and you.

This is exciting news… MW division look out…

I don’t know how effective gsp would be at 185 or 205 but you got to love the mans heart. Thats what MMA is all about..not being scarred and taking on all challenges.. he is a winner in my book already just for that…unlike folks like Karo Parisyan who wants the easy road to a title…I like Karo for his talent and abilities but he doesn’t have a winners heart in my book.. I’ll Holla

has bj penn not moved up and down a shitload of weight groups though?

GSP wont make it past Jon Fitch in the welterweight division…who is he tryn’ to kid????

wrong.

There will be no Silva after Hendo!

Please…. Hendo will gas again and Silva will capitalize.

ARE YOU GUYS CRAZY? This is the same guy that got dominated by Matt Serra in so many ways. He is definitely the best fighetr in the 170 division ( if he gets passed Serra, which i don’t think he will) but to think that he can beat Anderson?
Thats a question that raises doubt.
AND THE LHW division? HA KEEP Dreaming GSP.
Not happening guys, come back down from the CLOUDS!

he had one bad fight one and serra is a vet he is a good fighter anyother day gsp would win and in my eyes it is no different then when anderson lost to ryo

sanchez is the only good named fighter he has fought

If you honestly thing Sanchez is a good named fighter I feel bad for you.

If you honestly thing Sanchez is a good named fighter I feel bad for you.

well its the best he has fought

well its the best he has fought

Dude… What about Matt Hughes, BJ Penn, Sherk, Serra (current WW Champ)??? None of those matter to you?

GSP wont make it past Jon Fitch in the welterweight division…who is he tryn’ to kid????

lol u must be crazy gsp is a better striker, better wrestler, better bjj guy, better conditioned, oh yeah and a better fighter than john fitch. I like the guy but come on dude dont spek nonesense

Dude… What about Matt Hughes, BJ Penn, Sherk, Serra (current WW Champ)??? None of those matter to you?

Dude were talking about fitch

St. Peirre has beaten Parysian before, bloodied hime up bad.

He did beat him fair and square, that is true. But it went to decision…he didnt finish him. And Karo is the type of fighter that you should never underestimate. Karo vs GSP II would be a hell of a fight is all im saying.

GSP going MW maybe. I think that even if he can put on the weight the guy is still to small..Then LHW come on… the guy is good but some of those guys have a reach of over 76" and have been training and maintaining that weight throughout their careers. Come GSP, don’t shoot for the stars….

HE cant hang with the middlewights and it’s stupid to think that he’ll go to LHW, his frame isn’t going anywhere.
This is a waist of time to be writing on a situation that will never tell a great story.

If anyone fancies a laugh have a look at ‘Wildmans’ posts on the SLICE vs TANK blog. He’s just put a new one on and its pure comedy gold.

He describes himself as having God Given ability and how he randomly goes round choking people out. Oh and he could beat up 1/3 of the UFC roster.

Sorry i know its off the subject but i feel that no-one should miss it, definatly brightened up my day.

Oh and i would chew off my right leg to watch GSP vs Silva.

I agree with most of what was said on this thread. GSP NEEDS to defeat Matt Serra and defeat Jon Fitch before even thinking about moving up to MW. If he moved up to MW while holding the WW belt, will he get an immediate title shot at MW, or will they call in the like of Charles McCarthy for GSP to make his MW debut? That was a stretch and somewhat of a joke, but my question is – immediate title shot or not? I would actually say NO. I think that GSP would have to beat a Top 5 fighter in his first fight at MW before getting a shot at the title. Whenever this time does come, there are only 2 people that would be MW champion – Silva or Hendo. So inorder for GSP to get a shot at MW belt, I think that he would have to defeat Rich Franklin before getting a shot at Silva/Hendo.

As far as LHW is concerned…. I don’t think so! He would have to inherit Jason Lambert’s body type to be a solid 205er. Either than, or he would just be one big solid mass of muscle which would slow him down considerably. Being able to take Rashad down in practice compared to winning the LHW belt from Rampage are two COMPLTELELY DIFFERENT THINGS!

I don’t think GSP should fight anyone until Dana gets him a match with Fedor.

I mean all that GSP has done for the UFC.

And he should star in some foreign films. That will show Dana.

Wow, this would be awesome. After Serra and Fitch.. there’s no one left.

Beat Serra
Beat Hughes
Beat Fitch
Beat Koscheck
Beat Karo

Unless Diego or Marcus Davis beat 2 top 10 guys in 2008, I can’t see either of them being deserving of a shot.

Therefore, GSP vs. Anderson Silva in 2008! (if they both beat the guys in front of them [Fitch/Serra.. Hendo].. which will in no way be an easy task)

When I was with GSP this past weekend, he was at 186lbs. So middleweight is a definate possibility, but lhw would create a size problem for him against guys like Forrest Griffin. That being said, he could make up for it by creating a talent problem for those bigger guys. It would be an amazing show one way or the other, to see this talented athlete try to defeat much larger men.

Is that why he looked huge the other day.

To be Honest with you guys i think that Rich Franklin could defeat GSP just because of the reach and natural weight advantage.

I think that gsp could make some noise at MW. But i dont see him beating anderson silva if they would fight. At least on the feet. Silva is just to good on his feet. Personally i think silva has one of the best standup game in mma right now. As for LHW hes just not big enough.

come on men, he is only 5-10, he would be a dwarf even in the middleweight where everybody is about 6-2, so you can forget about his striking abilities, his only chance would be to take everybody down, but with 15 pounds more he would probably lose part of his athleticism as well..

he is just perfect as a WW

for true sub 200lbs fighters ie guys who walk around under 200lbs there are probably 3 contenders for #1 BJ (with cardio) GSP andersson silva

i expect each to clearout his own division with 3 or 4 dominating stoppages before moving up a weight class

would be awesome to see any of those 3 face off

sherk is possibly the only guy at 155 who could give BJ a problem
same at 170 with fitch for GSP
same at 185 with dan henderson for silva

this year should answer a lot of questions in the lower weight classes as we will hopefully have champions who actually come out and fight rather than sit around clutching their belt

GSP wont make it past Jon Fitch in the welterweight division…who is he tryn’ to kid????

Fitch is that you?…lol

When I was with GSP this past weekend, he was at 186lbs. So middleweight is a definate possibility, but lhw would create a size problem for him against guys like Forrest Griffin.

That being said, he could make up for it by creating a talent problem for those bigger guys. It would be an amazing show one way or the other, to see this talented athlete try to defeat much larger men.

with GSP? ru guys like partners?

I can see GSP doing extremely well in MW, but I don’t see how GSP could be too competative with the LHWs.

A lot of the LHWs would would be 30-40 lbs heavier.

My god, if GSP comes in weighing 205 and say Rampage weighs 205, how exactly are other LWH heavier by 30-40 lbs? The divisions have weight limits, GSP would need to gain the neccesary weight, DUH!!

my goodness! i dont think if he could pull of to be 205er,
in the 185 maybe because of his large frame as a 170,but in lightheavywight i coudnt imagine it, GSP is only 5’10 so just image how heavy muscle he will carry on & how slow will he become, he will be looks like Matt serra in the LHW division.
so if taht will happen,he will not be able to use his Super Athlestism the way he use in his all fights,& his athletism is a major part about why he beats his tough opponents.

Mania, is it me or you have alot here who don’t seem to realize that GSP would need to weigh 205? they think he’ll come in at 170 or something?

i just saw the all access of gsp last night. before he was going to fight serra and he said the same thing.

i think he could pull off 185, 205 idk

GSP would be a dominating force at MW. I would definitely like to watch him move up. I still think he has some unfinished business at WW though.

First, is a given… Serra

after that he’s got Fitch, Pariysan, and Swick at least.

The MW matches are endless though.

Right away, Anderson Silva, then McFedries, then Hendo, Rich Franklin, Jason McDonald, Hendo, Grove, Tanner, Okami. That’s almost 3 years worth of fights right there! haha

GSP can do it all. As far as I’m concerned he IS the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world.

My god, if GSP comes in weighing 205 and say Rampage weighs 205, how exactly are other LWH heavier by 30-40 lbs? The divisions have weight limits, GSP would need to gain the neccesary weight, DUH!!

I don’t think GSP will be weighing in at 205. GSP probably walks around at 185-190. GSP might make it to 195-200 for a fight at LHW. My guess is that Rampage would come into the fight at 220-225. Rampage would outweigh GSP by at least 25 lbs or so.

I agree with most of what was said on this thread. GSP NEEDS to defeat Matt Serra and defeat Jon Fitch before even thinking about moving up to MW. If he moved up to MW while holding the WW belt, will he get an immediate title shot at MW, or will they call in the like of Charles McCarthy for GSP to make his MW debut? That was a stretch and somewhat of a joke, but my question is – immediate title shot or not? I would actually say NO. I think that GSP would have to beat a Top 5 fighter in his first fight at MW before getting a shot at the title. Whenever this time does come, there are only 2 people that would be MW champion – Silva or Hendo. So inorder for GSP to get a shot at MW belt, I think that he would have to defeat Rich Franklin before getting a shot at Silva/Hendo.

As far as LHW is concerned…. I don’t think so! He would have to inherit Jason Lambert’s body type to be a solid 205er. Either than, or he would just be one big solid mass of muscle which would slow him down considerably. Being able to take Rashad down in practice compared to winning the LHW belt from Rampage are two COMPLTELELY DIFFERENT THINGS!

I’m impressed that you only mentioned Hendo twice in this post, incredible considering your Man-crush.

what a load of bol OX ! GSP cant even beat Serra – if he went up a weight he’d get pumled straight back down – if he went to MW – Franklin would kill him – if he went to LHW he would never in a million years get past Machida – he’s in a dream world and way to over confident

I don’t think GSP will be weighing in at 205. GSP probably walks around at 185-190. GSP might make it to 195-200 for a fight at LHW. My guess is that Rampage would come into the fight at 220-225. Rampage would outweigh GSP by at least 25 lbs or so.

My god, if GSP comes in weighing 205 and say Rampage weighs 205, how exactly are other LWH heavier by 30-40 lbs? The divisions have weight limits, GSP would need to gain the neccesary weight, DUH!!

I have my doubts of GSP making it at LHW, but that’s a long time off and who knows if he will actually even try to do that. What seems more interesting here to me is the potential fight at middleweight. Sure, Dan Henderson might beat Anderson in their fight, but Hendo would be a good challenge for GSP as well. I’d pick GSP to be the favorite in either fight because of his wrestling, but Hendo is also known for his wrestling and I think Silva or Henderson would have the advantage standing.

Nothing wrong with having goals and ambition to reach those goals. The loss to Serra was a lucky win to Serra and we all know that. (Unless you think Serra is a god)
GSP has dominated Hughes in the past 2 fights they had and Hughes was considered my many as the master of this division. Sure there may be people that will challenge GSP but none, in my mind will be able to dominate GSP like he dominated his opponents. Some may get a chance like Serra with a puncher’s chance but it will be hard for anyone to dominate him.
We also have heard that none of the LHW he trains with are able to take him down and that he is able to take them down by will. This could be why he/they think he could compete with the LHW’s as they see how he is in training with the bigger guys.

Either way, this is just speculations on our behalf and until it happens we can all argue our points and views.

GSP is incredible, but he better not look past Fitch and Parisyan. Both of those guys have the ability to bang with GSP and possibly take the “W”. Hell, Serra did it and he’s not half the fighter of Fitch or Karo.
A move to middleweight would be fun to watch, but I agree with everyone else, at this point GSP would be crushed as a light heavyweight. I dont see him ever being able to hang at 205.

  He kicks rashads ass in sparing, I’m pretty sure he can hang with ANY 205 pounder, rashad isn’t a joke and is UNDEFEATED at light heavy weight not that he’s top 5 but gsp can hang with rashad so why couldn’t he hang with light heavy weights?. Bj penn could I bet, and did hang with machida, people on this page are making too much of weight, it’s not as important as most realize. It’s possible some welter weight might have an easier time with some heavy weights than other welter weights, heavy weights are much slower and remember this is MARTIAL ARTS where the size and weight difference doesn’t mean so much. I think gsp needs to focus on matt serra right now because if he loses again to him, if will be a huge setback for him, beating serra should be the only thing on his mind. I got a bad feeling after seeing this entry, gsp said the same things before his last fight with serra, NEVER underestimate your opponent or overlook anyone. Both gsp and penn seem to be doing this which is foolish, even though I think both guys could hang with ANY mma fighter in any division. Penn did VERY well grappling with couture and I heard a rumor he even submitted him. Hughes also grapples and hangs with big tim silva so saying gsp couldn’t compete at LH and heavy weight is just ignorant, he could. He wrestles with HEAVY WEIGHT olympic wrestlers, when are people going to give this guy his due credit, I definitely think he could hang with anyone including fedor, not that he could beat anyone just that it would be a competitive fight. Even after saying all this I still think its a mistake to look past ANY opponent, it takes just one mistake or loss of focus and its over for you, see serra/gsp 1.

He did beat him fair and square, that is true. But it went to decision…he didnt finish him. And Karo is the type of fighter that you should never underestimate. Karo vs GSP II would be a hell of a fight is all im saying.

Yes it would be a great fight.

What a great way to start the morning, getting up and hearing this. I think it would be a great move, however, I agree with some of the guys above, he needs to beat Fitch.

For me Fitch is the only real threat to GSP and it would be a great fight.

Can you imgine GSP v Spida, GSP v Machida. Nice.

I wonder how much weight GSP can put on? has GSP fought heavier before?

(oppps, that was Manaia: sorry mate, i read both blogs, sincere apologies)

ARE YOU GUYS CRAZY? This is the same guy that got dominated by Matt Serra in so many ways. He is definitely the best fighetr in the 170 division ( if he gets passed Serra, which i don’t think he will) but to think that he can beat Anderson?
Thats a question that raises doubt.
AND THE LHW division? HA KEEP Dreaming GSP.
Not happening guys, come back down from the CLOUDS!

Can you honestly sit here and say you don’t think Peirre will beat Serra the second time around? Think about it.

He will be a really small LHW….i dont see him beating the top guys at that weight

WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY ON GSP’S CHEST????

what a load of bol OX ! GSP cant even beat Serra – if he went up a weight he’d get pumled straight back down – if he went to MW – Franklin would kill him – if he went to LHW he would never in a million years get past Machida – he’s in a dream world and way to over confident

   I predict gsp would totally dominate franklin and hang with silva MUCH better than frankin did, and I give gsp a much better chance of actually beating silva than franklin had. So franklin weights more than gsp, big f**king deal, so do the olympic wrestlers gsp wrestles with so is rashad and “the dean of mean” who gsp hangs with in sparring. The middle weight division is weak and anderson silva is a striking god who hasn’t fought a good wrestler in years. This will all change when the spider meets hendo, which should be a very competitive fight.

205 is a stretch, but I’d be willing to bet big $$ GSP would destroy (yes DESTROY) Anderson Silva if they fought tomorrow. GSP can beat anyone in the 185lb division including Rich, Oakami, Marquart, etc. GSP has lost twice in the UFC—both flukes—but his resume boasts wins over some of the greatest fighters in the world, i.e. hughes, karo, BJ, and Sherk. Hughes’ resume is crap in comparison.

Fitch would put up a good fight, but GSP would handle him the same way he did koscheck, another highly decorated wrestler. fitch wouldn’t make it past the second round.

Everybody knows Karo has the tools to be champion, but will he put in the necessary training? will he change his lifestyle in order to increase his strength and cardio. Lets just hope he gets the opportunity to answer those questions.

No way at light heavy!! Could you imagine him standing toe to toe with guys like liddell, rampage, shogun etc….. I know he wasnt at his best gainst serra, but he couldnt handle his power and got ko’d that night, imagine having an off night against liddell!!!!! Hospital case!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He should go down to 155…get that belt real quick from whoever is holding it. Then jump to 185 and see if he can beat that champ. Hold all 3 belts at once….he’d be the best ever! 205 is to much of a jump. He’d get hammered up there.

When it comes down to it wieght is not everything was anyone a fan of the ufc when it first came out remember there was no wieght classes and who won it right roice gracie and he was 185 then and beatguys who were like 320 its skill not pounds and GSP has all kinds of skill and most LHW are all striking or one skill i think he could hold his own

Jon Fitch is sick but CANNOT stand with GSP…KOS was the wrestler to beat GSP but that wasn’t even close…ppl must notice that it was his manager talking and they’re just talking about the future but yea GSP must beat Serra first n destroy him not just get a decision or something….he’ll ground n pound him

On a NORMAL night, no welter weight can compete with gsp, just my opinion, something unusual has to happen for gsp to lose, eye poke causing double vision, punchers chance, gsp having a mental breakdown. If gsp has his head screwed on right, comes in prepared and ready I think no one in the welter weight division could “andle is riddum”.

as of right now i can see him moving through serra fitch and then parisyan i can see him being at 185 by the end of 08 and then i could see him fighting someone who would make him the number 1 contender and then going for the belt as for light hevey wieght he would have to get alot bigger but it could happen over the course of a few years

If he fights Rich Franklin he would beat him and then it’s Anderson Silva. I personally think that GSP’s strengths are like Hendo’s so there could be some great fights in 185. All in all I hope that happens. As for LHW, he was training with Rashad and Keith Jardine none of which are great fighters, but they didn’t give GSP any problems. Especially if he fought in 185 for a year got bigger and then competed at 205. It’s possible. It would be crazy if he pulled it off, but if anyone could it’s him.

If he fights Rich Franklin he would beat him and then it’s Anderson Silva. I personally think that GSP’s strengths are like Hendo’s so there could be some great fights in 185. All in all I hope that happens. As for LHW, he was training with Rashad and Keith Jardine none of which are great fighters, but they didn’t give GSP any problems. Especially if he fought in 185 for a year got bigger and then competed at 205. It’s possible. It would be crazy if he pulled it off, but if anyone could it’s him.

I’m impressed that you only mentioned Hendo twice in this post, incredible considering your Man-crush.

Seeing that the discussion was about GSP taking over the MW division. To be honest with you, I should have mentioned Fitch’s name a few more times… I am still waiting for the day for you or your boy skankilicous to type something of at least a small bit of intelligence related to mma.

Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo, Fitch, Hendo. Did I mention Jon Fitch or Hollywood Dan Henderson in this post yet?

Seriously, if you go through each of my posts counting how many times I mention Dan Henderson, it tells me that I have come along way since first posting on this board. I NOW HAVE MY FIRST GROUPIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don’t think GSP will be weighing in at 205. GSP probably walks around at 185-190. GSP might make it to 195-200 for a fight at LHW. My guess is that Rampage would come into the fight at 220-225. Rampage would outweigh GSP by at least 25 lbs or so.

ARE U TELLING ME THAT FIGHTERS ON FIGHT NIGHT are allowed to weigh more than the division limit??!!

ARE U TELLING ME THAT FIGHTERS ON FIGHT NIGHT are allowed to weigh more than the division limit??!!

So on Friday Rampage at the weigh in weighs 205 then that night he EATS LIKE A BUFFALO and the next day he weighs 225 220? 20 pounds in one day? I DON’T THINK SO.

So on Friday Rampage at the weigh in weighs 205 then that night he EATS LIKE A BUFFALO and the next day he weighs 225 220? 20 pounds in one day? I DON’T THINK SO.

No, the fighters ‘cut weight’, which is mostly water wieght, especially at the end. There are very scientific ways of cutting wieght, and the same for replenishing yourself. It is not uncommon at all for a fighter to come in 10 – 15 lbs heavier than the weight limit at the time of a fight.

GSP said this himself last year about moving up to 185 then 205 to win titles in 3 divisions.

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Transcript-Of-Exclusive-Georges-St.-Pierre-Interview.html

he should worry about being able to hold the ww belt for awhile before even saying something like that.he still got to beat serra than there are some other tough ww to get through than you got b.j. who wants another shot at him and could beat him.i don’t see him beating silva or henderson so lhw sounds even less likely especialy because of all the talent at that weight.

GSP needs to concentrate on getting past Serra. Because Anderson Silva will massacre him. GSP has not had his chin checked in any of his fights. Silva will destroy him in within 2 rounds. Please believe it!!!!!!!

GSP needs to concentrate on getting past Serra. Because Anderson Silva will massacre him. GSP has not had his chin checked in any of his fights. Silva will destroy him in within 2 rounds. Please believe it!!!!!!!

  I don’t believe, any anyone with a lot of mma knowledge doesn’t believe it either. Yes gsp does need to concentrate on serra for sure, but he definitely could compete with silva just as easily as hendo could.

GSP’s a stud, but has no chance against Dan Henderson. I think Hendo will take it to Silva and win convincingly, but The Spida’s a stud as well, so who knows…can’t wait to see that fight. GSP needs to focus on beating Serra and possibly Fitch before this discussion means much.

It will be interesting to see Swick at 170 on Weds. With his performance at 185 it would be a way to gauge how well GSP “might” match up. I wonder where they are going to fit him into the title mix. Do let him fall right in after Fitch? After GSP shuts down all the AKA triplets we could have a better idea about his chances @ MW.

GSP vs. Serra (April)
GSP vs. Fitch (August)
GSP vs. Swick (Nov)??

Either way, we are a long way off from any of these dream match-ups.

raze its water weight that they cut

they dont decide to nnot eat for a week then stuff themselves the night before

body is around 70% water so fighters are able to dry themselves out by around 10% through drinking less h2o and going in a sauna

it not a nice experience but allows them to get down to probably 1 weight class below their every day weight and then rehydrate to their normal weight and have a massive advantage in fights

most drastic cuts are probably matt hughes 195 ish to 170 and rich franklin 210 to 185

I could only hope they put together that aggressive of a title fight schedule. Maybe they will play catch-up after shelving these belts so long.

As far as LHW is concerned…. I don’t think so! He would have to inherit Jason Lambert’s body type to be a solid 205er. Either than, or he would just be one big solid mass of muscle which would slow him down considerably. Being able to take Rashad down in practice compared to winning the LHW belt from Rampage are two COMPLTELELY DIFFERENT THINGS!

No kidding? I totally thought they were the exact same thing. I have some re-thinking to do!

The point is, GSP will not be foreign to fighting people that are way bigger than he is. No one thinks that just because he can take out Rashad then he’s going to win the belt from Page. Stop insulting our intelligence.

It’s so good that he dreams big. It will keep him sharp and focused. He won’t hit any ceilings and he’ll constantly improve and grow as a fighter. He might as well have his sights focused high, he’s the most talented fighter to come along in a long time. Maybe ever it seems (Fedor exception maybe).

MY DREAM FIGHT: GSP vs Anderson Silva

http://mmafever.blogspot.com/2008/01/mma-pic-of-day-gsp-hughes-rogan.html

I agree with most of what was said on this thread. GSP NEEDS to defeat Matt Serra and defeat Jon Fitch before even thinking about moving up to MW. If he moved up to MW while holding the WW belt, will he get an immediate title shot at MW, or will they call in the like of Charles McCarthy for GSP to make his MW debut? That was a stretch and somewhat of a joke, but my question is – immediate title shot or not? I would actually say NO. I think that GSP would have to beat a Top 5 fighter in his first fight at MW before getting a shot at the title. Whenever this time does come, there are only 2 people that would be MW champion – Silva or Hendo. So inorder for GSP to get a shot at MW belt, I think that he would have to defeat Rich Franklin before getting a shot at Silva/Hendo.

As far as LHW is concerned…. I don’t think so! He would have to inherit Jason Lambert’s body type to be a solid 205er. Either than, or he would just be one big solid mass of muscle which would slow him down considerably. Being able to take Rashad down in practice compared to winning the LHW belt from Rampage are two COMPLTELELY DIFFERENT THINGS!

I have to agree as well, getting an immediate title shot at a higher weight class should be earned, otherwise there would be too much controversy, kinda similar to Matt Serra’s position as the welterweight champ. I can understand that ambition is healthy in regards to having a natural desire to compete and improve. But realistically, GSP fighting at 205, more than likely never happen, but it is an entertaining thought.

From what I’ve seen in GSP’s last two fights, I’ve seen a good compilation of MMA, he has incorporated wrestling a little more effectively, but he hasn’t been relying on one aspect which I think is the recipe for successful career and achieving a “Legacy” as either a dominating welter weight or as a top pound for pound fighter.

All the different scenario’s are mouth watering, but GSP has to put together consecutive wins as the Welterweight Champ first! It sounds like he’s already looking past Matt Serra once again. Don’t get me wrong, I like GSP, he’s a classy guy, handles himself well and doesn’t get himself wrapped up in the bright lights and hoopla that comes with fame. Take one fight at a time!

I don’t think GSP is big enough to be at 205lbs, I can see him dominating 185. Afterall he use to fight at 185 in Canada. GSP VS ANDERSON SILVA WOULD BE A DREAM FIGHT.

All the different scenario’s are mouth watering, but GSP has to put together consecutive wins as the Welterweight Champ first! It sounds like he’s already looking past Matt Serra once again. Don’t get me wrong, I like GSP, he’s a classy guy, handles himself well and doesn’t get himself wrapped up in the bright lights and hoopla that comes with fame. Take one fight at a time!

I don’t think GSP is looking past Serra. I think his decision is to fight in differnt weight classes, regardless of him having the WW title or not?…

I wonder how GSP would look at 205Lbs?…

Karo is not on GSP’s level. GSP beat Karo in GSP’s debut. Both guys have gotten better since then, but GSP has developed more than Karo. The likely scenario is GSP beating up Karo on his way to a stoppage. Karo’s best chance would be to get GSP in a quick Judo leglock.

He kicks rashads ass in sparing, I’m pretty sure he can hang with ANY 205 pounder, rashad isn’t a joke and is UNDEFEATED at light heavy weight not that he’s top 5 but gsp can hang with rashad so why couldn’t he hang with light heavy weights?. Bj penn could I bet, and did hang with machida, people on this page are making too much of weight, it’s not as important as most realize. It’s possible some welter weight might have an easier time with some heavy weights than other welter weights, heavy weights are much slower and remember this is MARTIAL ARTS where the size and weight difference doesn’t mean so much. I think gsp needs to focus on matt serra right now because if he loses again to him, if will be a huge setback for him, beating serra should be the only thing on his mind. I got a bad feeling after seeing this entry, gsp said the same things before his last fight with serra, NEVER underestimate your opponent or overlook anyone. Both gsp and penn seem to be doing this which is foolish, even though I think both guys could hang with ANY mma fighter in any division. Penn did VERY well grappling with couture and I heard a rumor he even submitted him. Hughes also grapples and hangs with big tim silva so saying gsp couldn’t compete at LH and heavy weight is just ignorant, he could. He wrestles with HEAVY WEIGHT olympic wrestlers, when are people going to give this guy his due credit, I definitely think he could hang with anyone including fedor, not that he could beat anyone just that it would be a competitive fight. Even after saying all this I still think its a mistake to look past ANY opponent, it takes just one mistake or loss of focus and its over for you, see serra/gsp 1.

oh yeah and he still has’nt beat the reigning WW champ.

No, the fighters ‘cut weight’, which is mostly water wieght, especially at the end. There are very scientific ways of cutting wieght, and the same for replenishing yourself. It is not uncommon at all for a fighter to come in 10 – 15 lbs heavier than the weight limit at the time of a fight.

His strenght and wrestling makes up for a lot of it though. Remember he trains with 205’ers like Rashad and is able to take em down pretty easily.

I am not saying he would win a title at 205.. All i am saying is he might suprise a lot of ppl because he can take almost anyone down.

rashad evans, keith jardine and patrick cote, so theres 2 top 5/10 205lb’ers right there in evans and jardine… word from st pierres last camp was that he was taking everyone down at will and evans could not take him down at all. thats definitely impressive seeing evans is primarily a wrestler with nice collegiate accomplishments.

i think st pierre stylistically matches up well with anderson silva. best game plan would be to ditch the standup and take him down with his wrestling skills and ground and pound him.

this would be a f@cken dream matchup… i really hope st pierre wipes out the welterweight division and i really do see it happening

Wow lots of comments. He diets down to 170. So on Sherdogg a while ago I predicted he would be middleweight champion in a year or so.

Light heavy is news to me and that is the toughest division perhaps to win. Randy found things easier in heavy weight. Forrest supposedly walks around at like 240 and diets down to 205. GSP doesn’t walk around at 240, he might find he isn’t so strong or athletic at that weight.

185 seems doable though BJ wants another shot at GSP at 170, but 205, lets just say Lyoto or Huston Alexander or even Chuck Liddell might be more than GSP can handle. It won’t be lack of skill or conditioning but just a question of size. Even Wanderlei looks a little small at 205, he walks around at 213 or something and that is doing a lot of weight training…

I can see GSP doing extremely well in MW, but I don’t see how GSP could be too competative with the LHWs.

A lot of the LHWs would would be 30-40 lbs heavier.

This is a long term goal of his. It would be at least 3 years. To me it looks like he put on a good solid 10 lbs of muscle in the last 2 or 3 years( he fights at about 185-190)If he can do the same in the next couple of years he could fight at 200 lbs RIPPED. Alot of LHWs fight at 220 lbs ,but they have about 15 to 20 lbs of fat (dead weight ,just slows you down). Lastly ,right now he can take Rashad (about 215 lbs) and Jardine down at will , he’ll do just fine at LHW if he adds 10 or 15 lbs of muscle. His cardio, athleticism and skill (mainly wrestling) will make up for the few pounds he’s giving up.

any of you GSP ball worshipers can tell me whose face that is in GSP’s chest in this pic?

He did beat him fair and square, that is true. But it went to decision…he didnt finish him. And Karo is the type of fighter that you should never underestimate. Karo vs GSP II would be a hell of a fight is all im saying.

To be Honest with you guys i think that Rich Franklin could defeat GSP just because of the reach and natural weight advantage.

I AGREE 100PERCENT AND GSP IS 1 OF MY FAVORITE FIGHTERS I JUS WANT GSP TO STAY WHERE HE IS JUS SO HE CAN BEAT DOWN BJ AND SHUT HIM UP 4EVER

OH WAIT HE WONT HAVE A CHANCE TO CAUSE EVEN IF BJ GETS PASSED THE DADDY SHERK WILL TAKE HIM OUT

GSP going MW maybe. I think that even if he can put on the weight the guy is still to small..Then LHW come on… the guy is good but some of those guys have a reach of over 76" and have been training and maintaining that weight throughout their careers. Come GSP, don’t shoot for the stars….

Are you kidding? Gsp has a reach of 76" , Chuck has a reach of 76". He has the reach of a LHW.

As far as LHW is concerned…. I don’t think so! He would have to inherit Jason Lambert’s body type to be a solid 205er. Either than, or he would just be one big solid mass of muscle which would slow him down considerably. Being able to take Rashad down in practice compared to winning the LHW belt from Rampage are two COMPLTELELY DIFFERENT THINGS!

Being fat like Lambert would slow GSP down more than having 15 lbs more muscle. How can muscle slow you down more than fat? Fat is dead wieght and any good fighter should carry as little as possible. If you go into a fight with 20 lbs of fat ,you might as well stap a 20 lb dumbbell to you back and pack that around to slow you down and tire you out. GSP might only be able to get to 200 lbs, but he won’t have the 15 lbs of fat that most LHWs have. Sure taking Rashad down doesn’t mean he will beat Rampage. The point is, that he can do that now, at 2 weight classes below. He can only get stronger when he is a LHW. It shows that his wrestling can negate the size advantage of the larger opponent (Randy vs Tim and GG) This is a long term goal, he’s not doing it tommorrow. He already has the reach of a LHW (76"). He’s strong as a bull at 170. His wrestling is off the chart. His striking isn’t to shabby either and in my oppinion his cardio is the best in any wieght class. If he keeps improving at the rate he is, the gap even gets smaller. Who know how he will do at 205, maybe he won’t make it at MW. I just wish more fighters would strive a little harder to challenge themselves. Maybe Fedor should hangout with GSP for a while and some of that competitiveness will rub off on him.

To be Honest with you guys i think that Rich Franklin could defeat GSP just because of the reach and natural weight advantage.

Weight advantage yes , reach advantage no. They both have 76" reach.

come on men, he is only 5-10, he would be a dwarf even in the middleweight where everybody is about 6-2, so you can forget about his striking abilities, his only chance would be to take everybody down, but with 15 pounds more he would probably lose part of his athleticism as well..

he is just perfect as a WW

I don’t see what height has to due with it as long as he has the reach. The guy has freekin long arms. He has the same reach as Chuck, who has rather long arms. As far as a 15 lbs of Muscle slowing a guy down, try convincing Carl Lewis of that when the more muscular (albeit juiced) Ben Jonhson beat him in the 100 meter race. Muscle is what moves you, it doesn’t slow you down (Mr Olimpia mass isn’t what we are talking about here) as long as you are training for explosive power, not just bulking up with benchpress and squats.

my goodness! i dont think if he could pull of to be 205er,
in the 185 maybe because of his large frame as a 170,but in lightheavywight i coudnt imagine it, GSP is only 5’10 so just image how heavy muscle he will carry on & how slow will he become, he will be looks like Matt serra in the LHW division.
so if taht will happen,he will not be able to use his Super Athlestism the way he use in his all fights,& his athletism is a major part about why he beats his tough opponents.

Sera might be a bad example, he looks pretty dam fast to me. He’s not going to look like Monson (5’9")HW. We’re talking 15 lbs. The difference from weighins (170) to fight night (185).

He should go down to 155…get that belt real quick from whoever is holding it. Then jump to 185 and see if he can beat that champ. Hold all 3 belts at once….he’d be the best ever! 205 is to much of a jump. He’d get hammered up there.

GSP could NEVER make 155. He doesn’t have the body fat (30 lbs) to lose. If you go lower than 3% you die. At 170 (weigh in)he is about 6-7%. On the other hand he could gain 15 lbs and fight LHW.

Rich vs GSP would be a good idea… I think this would be pretty even and a great match …. maybe not anderson silva though.

Here is the deal, I strongley believe, (due to worse competition) that BJ Penn will have cleaned out his division (LW) and move up to WW to face George, before Georges cleans out his. So he should be watching his back for Penn, GSP is not the only one doing the hunting.

There will be no Silva after Hendo!

GSP’s getting a little ahead of himself.

man,VM just give up some people just dont get it.

Jdawg, that was my first time responding to that thread of comments….

NEWSFLASH: GSP has never even successfully defended a championship belt. Try and dominate your own division before dreaming about 3 divisions….

What cave have you people crawled out of. Every great athlete that leaves a legacy dreams big. They have these huge long term goals that guide them and motivate them in the short term. Without long term goals becoming great and legendary rarely happens.

Of course he has to beat Serra and defend the title before he can claim other belts (every idiot knows that), but you folk claiming he needs to defend his title before dreaming his dreams should spend less time watching tv sitcoms and scrawling the internet for useless time wasters. Things always need to happen in the mind before they actually occur.

What cave have you people crawled out of. Every great athlete that leaves a legacy dreams big. They have these huge long term goals that guide them and motivate them in the short term. Without long term goals becoming great and legendary rarely happens.

Of course he has to beat Serra and defend the title before he can claim other belts (every idiot knows that), but you folk claiming he needs to defend his title before dreaming his dreams should spend less time watching tv sitcoms and scrawling the internet for useless time wasters. Things always need to happen in the mind before they actually occur.

I’d have to argue Dave. Because GSP making these statements make me think that he is looking past Matt Serra AGAIN. That is not a good idea on the part of GSP. But on body ever praises GSP for his brain…

NEWSFLASH: GSP has never even successfully defended a championship belt. Try and dominate your own division before dreaming about 3 divisions….

Good job , I totally agree with that.

what a load of bol OX ! GSP cant even beat Serra – if he went up a weight he’d get pumled straight back down – if he went to MW – Franklin would kill him – if he went to LHW he would never in a million years get past Machida – he’s in a dream world and way to over confident

So your basing this on the fact that he had a bad night with Sera. What about him dominating the rest of the WW division. Wouldn’t this be more telling,how he would do in the WEAKER MW division.

Here is the deal, I strongley believe, (due to worse competition) that BJ Penn will have cleaned out his division (LW) and move up to WW to face George, before Georges cleans out his. So he should be watching his back for Penn, GSP is not the only one doing the hunting.

Not likely, GSP has a BIG head start, he already cleaned out at least 80%, where as BJ is just starting. If the LW division isn’t as deep as the WW, it is dam close, which will say alot for BJ if he is able to clean it.

What cave have you people crawled out of. Every great athlete that leaves a legacy dreams big. They have these huge long term goals that guide them and motivate them in the short term. Without long term goals becoming great and legendary rarely happens.

Of course he has to beat Serra and defend the title before he can claim other belts (every idiot knows that), but you folk claiming he needs to defend his title before dreaming his dreams should spend less time watching tv sitcoms and scrawling the internet for useless time wasters. Things always need to happen in the mind before they actually occur.

Exactly, and something like this will take a couple YEARS of PREPARATION, so I sure hope he is THINKING about it now. What’s he supposed to do? wake up one day and say Dana move me up.

But on body ever praises GSP for his brain…

Nor you ,going by this spelling. Just kidding, I couldn’t resist.

Silva vs gsp would be no fight, silva would kill him. homboy needs to worry about geting past serra before he opens his mouth.

Not likely, GSP has a BIG head start, he already cleaned out at least 80%, where as BJ is just starting. If the LW division isn’t as deep as the WW, it is dam close, which will say alot for BJ if he is able to clean it.

Nor you ,going by this spelling. Just kidding, I couldn’t resist.

LOL @ myself. Thanks Gord!!!!!!!!!

I’m getting a little emotional here but i have a simple approach to this whole equation: Who did Matt Hughes beat in his last title run????Trigg, Riggs(not even a title fight), Gracie(same poop), and BJ. After GSP lost to Hughes the first time he went on to beat Miller, Trigg, Sherk, BJ(if it went five rounds BJ was toast), as well as he has beaten Matt Hughes twice and Kos, I think the quality of fighters that he has faced including Karo most definitely qualifies GSP as a quality fighter. Matt Hughes lost to Denis Hallman twice and is still considered the most dominating blah blah blah. One KO loss and all of sudden everyone needs to remeasure, GSP is one the best fighters out there who competes on the biggest stage in MMA. Stick a fork in me I’m done.

Cleaned out means defends teh title to the point like Anderson SIlva has, no more guys to defend agaisnt. Thy are both just becoming champs, both in the same situation, that’s what I meant.

To the comment on GSP not making it past Fitch. Fitch is going the same way as the last two wrestlers that GSP beat. He’s a good fighter, but GSP is a great fighter,