UFC 84: Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter fight in the works

Hey Mania, You may have made an error. U posted that Franklin might fight Lutter at UFC 84 in Canada on April 19th. I think he ment UFC 83 because 82 is scheduled for march 1st, and there isnt any other even scheduled between March 1st and April 19th…..is it a mistake or is there a whole other event I dont know about?

In the weakest overall weight divison in the ufc..this is good fight to see. I just hope it isn’t a main event and/or just one out two fights that we want to see on a fight card.

This is a good solid match up. I hope it happens because in the weak middleweight division this fight would have to be considered one of the better possible match ups that could take place in the division.
Just proof on how weak the 185 lb division is. Y is it so hard to find good 185 lb fighters. ^’1, 185 lbs is a pretty common size yet there are such few good fighters at that weight.

In the weakest overall weight divison in the ufc..this is good fight to see. I just hope it isn’t a main event and/or just one out two fights that we want to see on a fight card.

I agree 100%

This should make for a real good fight..but it BETTER NOT be a main event fight…IMO UFC 72- Franklin/Okami should not have been a Main event.

Hey Mania, You may have made an error. U posted that Franklin might fight Lutter at UFC 84 in Canada on April 19th. I think he ment UFC 83 because 82 is scheduled for march 1st, and there isnt any other even scheduled between March 1st and April 19th…..is it a mistake or is there a whole other event I dont know about?

Theres a show rumored for March 8 in England with Bisping. No idea if that’s happening and/or if it will be a PPV card. Ill stick with 83 for now.

With all the competition at 205 and 170 I am surprised more people do not step up or drop down in weight to try and compete at this weight class…It would make sense. I do not think anyone from 170 except maybe GSP could take the belt from The Spider or Hendo if he should win.

Franklin should own Lutter. Can’t wait to see GSP regain his gold. My condolences go out to Rich and his family.

Theres a show rumored for March 8 in England with Bisping. No idea if that’s happening and/or if it will be a PPV card. Ill stick with 83 for now.

Oh really? I havent heard anything about it but if thats true, it looks like the UFC is gonna pick up again come March…..UFC 82, UFC 83 then UFC 84 then UFN, and then The UFC Canada show. March and April are starting to remind me of this past August and September which was a great time in the UFC…We just have to wheather these next 2 boring months, but then it looks promising!

lutter is too one dimentional to beat rich. rich has sick takedown defense and even on the ground i can’t see lutter sumitting him.

Oh really? I havent heard anything about it but if thats true, it looks like the UFC is gonna pick up again come March…..UFC 82, UFC 83 then UFC 84 then UFN, and then The UFC Canada show. March and April are starting to remind me of this past August and September which was a great time in the UFC…We just have to wheather these next 2 boring months, but then it looks promising!

So the UFC is planning on Bisping making his MW debut in England….I wonder who they will match him up with? Most middleweights are signed to fight around that time. If Bisping is gonna headline the event, they will have to find him a decent opponent, if he isnt the main event, I guarente the UFC will give him a scrub. Bisping is one of the luckiest fighters in the UFC, because the UFC will do anything to protect him and turn him into a star, if not here, in England….He is soooooo lucky!

Chuck Liddell: “I’ll think about it.” —Chuck after being offered a fight w/ Machida)
I regularly talk with a karate student who has been going to the Machida family’s APAM academy in Brazil for 7 years, and he’s very close to the Machida family. Usually after Lyoto comes back to a Brazil from a fight, he visits Lyoto. Well, He talked to Lyoto tonight and sent me this message of what he heard from Lyoto: (below) (his english is a little rough cause he lives in Brazil)

I talked to Lyoto tonight.. I asked if that is true, about he fighting chuck lidell in april. He said that he was asked about that, and he accepted.. in front of Chuck! But chuck said that he would think about… So, Lyoto told me that his next fight can be with Lidell, Toto Ortiz or Jardine.

Chuck Liddell: “I’ll think about it.” —Chuck after being offered a fight w/ Machida)
I regularly talk with a karate student who has been going to the Machida family’s APAM academy in Brazil for 7 years, and he’s very close to the Machida family. Usually after Lyoto comes back to a Brazil from a fight, he visits Lyoto. Well, He talked to Lyoto tonight and sent me this message of what he heard from Lyoto: (below) (his english is a little rough cause he lives in Brazil)

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I talked to Lyoto tonight.. I asked if that is true, about he fighting chuck lidell in april. He said that he was asked about that, and he accepted.. in front of Chuck! But chuck said that he would think about… So, Lyoto told me that his next fight can be with Lidell, Toto Ortiz or Jardine.

This info doesnt come from my personal experience. It was sent to me by a freind, a pretty reliable freind!

Chuck Liddell: “I’ll think about it.” —Chuck after being offered a fight w/ Machida)
I regularly talk with a karate student who has been going to the Machida family’s APAM academy in Brazil for 7 years, and he’s very close to the Machida family. Usually after Lyoto comes back to a Brazil from a fight, he visits Lyoto. Well, He talked to Lyoto tonight and sent me this message of what he heard from Lyoto: (below) (his english is a little rough cause he lives in Brazil)

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I talked to Lyoto tonight.. I asked if that is true, about he fighting chuck lidell in april. He said that he was asked about that, and he accepted.. in front of Chuck! But chuck said that he would think about… So, Lyoto told me that his next fight can be with Lidell, Toto Ortiz or Jardine.

Chuck Liddell: “I’ll think about it.” —Chuck after being offered a fight w/ Machida)
I regularly talk with a karate student who has been going to the Machida family’s APAM academy in Brazil for 7 years, and he’s very close to the Machida family. Usually after Lyoto comes back to a Brazil from a fight, he visits Lyoto. Well, He talked to Lyoto tonight and sent me this message of what he heard from Lyoto: (below) (his english is a little rough cause he lives in Brazil)

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I talked to Lyoto tonight.. I asked if that is true, about he fighting chuck lidell in april. He said that he was asked about that, and he accepted.. in front of Chuck! But chuck said that he would think about… So, Lyoto told me that his next fight can be with Lidell, Toto Ortiz or Jardine.

I think it will be against tito cos chuck will want jardine first but i think this will defo happen

I see this being a one sided fight in the favor of Franklin. I am surprised that Lutter still wants to even fight. Not making weight for your first ever title shot is a pretty good indicator that you are no longer passionate about the sport.

So the UFC is planning on Bisping making his MW debut in England….I wonder who they will match him up with? Most middleweights are signed to fight around that time. If Bisping is gonna headline the event, they will have to find him a decent opponent, if he isnt the main event, I guarente the UFC will give him a scrub. Bisping is one of the luckiest fighters in the UFC, because the UFC will do anything to protect him and turn him into a star, if not here, in England….He is soooooo lucky!

Bisping better not be in another main event until he is fighting for a title, which would mean – never.

Mania, u were right the UFC is scheduled to be in London on March 8th….and I totally forgot that Bisping was scheduled to fight Charles McCarthy, I can imagine that the UFC will have sunk so low to offer this as a main event….I doubt it…..if it is the UFC has reached an all time low.

I will never forget that Flying knee that “the crow” destroyed charles McCarthy with. It was one of the greatest finishes to a UFC fight!

Bisping better not be in another main event until he is fighting for a title, which would mean – never.

Mania, u were right the UFC is scheduled to be in London on March 8th….and I totally forgot that Bisping was scheduled to fight Charles McCarthy, I can imagine that the UFC will have sunk so low to offer this as a main event….I doubt it…..if it is the UFC has reached an all time low.

I will never forget that Flying knee that “the crow” destroyed charles McCarthy with. It was one of the greatest finishes to a UFC fight!

what about the spinning back kick to the liver!!!that was awesome.

And so Rich sets out to reaffirm his status as the UFC’s No. 2 MW.

I really don’t understand the UFC keeping fighters like Travis Lutter (recent losses and can’t even make weight for a championship fight), and let other talent go unsigned.

Franklin vs. Hendo for the Middleweight title sometime later in 2008.

Please god let this fight happen .. im only 2 min away from the bell centre.. lol.. my 2 favorit fighter..st pierre and franklin..cant get any better than that

Franklin will beat Lutter easier than Silva did.Then he’s gonna beat Hendo and regain his gold…that’s if Hendo beats Silva [which he will].

I really don’t understand the UFC keeping fighters like Travis Lutter (recent losses and can’t even make weight for a championship fight), and let other talent go unsigned.

The MW division is weak enough as it is…they’re not going to drop a solid fighter like Lutter. I agree that it was ridiculous he didn’t make weight for the fight but that doesn’t make him a bad fighter. He made a mistake and hopefully he’s learned from it and will be refocussed for this big fight. I think Rich will take this one but Lutter has some slick ground skills. I can’t wait to see this fight live in Montreal in April.

Mania, u were right the UFC is scheduled to be in London on March 8th….and I totally forgot that Bisping was scheduled to fight Charles McCarthy, I can imagine that the UFC will have sunk so low to offer this as a main event….I doubt it…..if it is the UFC has reached an all time low.

I will never forget that Flying knee that “the crow” destroyed charles McCarthy with. It was one of the greatest finishes to a UFC fight!

Now if Bisping vs Charles McCarthy is the main event, I will SERIOUSLY never order a PPV again, and that would break a streak of 5 – 6 years. I only didn’t watch the UFC for a few years some time after UFC 12 or so.

There is a typo on the home page. It says UFC 83 then later it says 84 talking about the same event.

There is a typo on the home page. It says UFC 83 then later it says 84 talking about the same event.

Not anymore.

Does this mean that UFC 83 is CONFIRMED to be in Montreal?!?!?!?! OH MY GOD THAT WOULD BE SICK! But is it for real? That’s playoff time for the Montreal Canadiens in hockey.

I dont think Franklin will be fighting for another 5 months.. he needs to recover from his father passing and also the leg injury.. i am going to the montreal event and i am a huge Franklin fan.. but i dont see him fighting in april …i will cross my fingers

To sort out all of the confusion,

UFC 82 = March 1st in Columbus Ohio live on PPV
UFC 83 = March 8th in London England (probably on TV)
UFN= April 2nd KenFlo vs. J-Lau in Colorado (Free TV)
UFC 84 = April 19th in Montreal Quebec Canada (live on PPV)

We dont all love Bisping in the UK, he is a decent fighter and has destroyed all the guys in the UK that he has been up against. Moving his career forward to America has helped him & MMA gain popularity in the UK & I agree he has had some easy fights & should have won against Hamill. The Evans fight was also weak (I blame Evans for that as with the Ortiz-Evans fight), the big difference with most UK fighters is that wrestling isn’t a high school sport over here & thats where UK fighters loose fights on not been able to wrestle like Hughes or Couture or even Evans (NOT SAYING BISPING IS ANYWHERE NEAR HUGHES OR COUTURE)

I will never forget that Flying knee that “the crow” destroyed charles McCarthy with. It was one of the greatest finishes to a UFC fight!

Don’t forget the SICK spinning back kick he threw right before that. Loiseau was an exciting fighter, it would be nice to see him fight in the Montreal card.

i thought they said franklin would be out till like may or june??
anyways if there is a ufc 83 in england it must be a freebie on spike tv but having bisping vs mccarthy as a main match?? no wonder it would be free cause no one would buy that crap

To sort out all of the confusion,

UFC 82 = March 1st in Columbus Ohio live on PPV
UFC 83 = March 8th in London England (probably on TV)
UFN= April 2nd KenFlo vs. J-Lau in Colorado (Free TV)
UFC 84 = April 19th in Montreal Quebec Canada (live on PPV)

Florian is fighting Joe Lauzon? where did you here that
is it official??

if so? that should be a very entertaining fight.

To sort out all of the confusion,

UFC 82 = March 1st in Columbus Ohio live on PPV
UFC 83 = March 8th in London England (probably on TV)
UFN= April 2nd KenFlo vs. J-Lau in Colorado (Free TV)
UFC 84 = April 19th in Montreal Quebec Canada (live on PPV)

The confusion is with the 3/8 event. No one is sure yet if it will be a PPV. It’s a little odd to have two PPVs on back-to-back weekends. Unless it is FREE on Spike. It could also be a dubbed fight night special.

Sounds like a pretty exciting card, its looking better all the time.

does anyone know what happened to martin kampman? i know he was supposed to fight rich at ufc ireland, but was injured. that was last summer and he seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

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Then Silva will destroy Franklinstein again lol (It was around hallowe’en and his nose was a mess, bad joke I know).

I see what you mean though. Rich’s only chance of regaining the belt is if Dan beats Anderson. Hendo seems to be pretty confident with his clinch game but he’s not as rangy as Anderson so supposing that Dan were to beat Anderson, could he employ the clinch against Franklin as well as the Spider did? I wonder.

If Anderson (think Silva is the fav) beats Dan I wouldn’t mind seeing Dan and Rich duking it out. It mightn’t make sense for the rankings and next contender if they want to build both guys back up for another crack but it would definitely confirm who’s the number 2 MW. It would be weird if Dan lost to Anderson, won against Rich and got another shot though wouldn’t it.

This fight f’in sucks.

I like the sound of this

does anyone know what happened to martin kampman? i know he was supposed to fight rich at ufc ireland, but was injured. that was last summer and he seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

He is still recovering from his knee injury. I believe it was the knee…

This should be a good fight, but I do agree with everyone else that it should not be a main event. I don’t think Franklin is a lock to win however. Lutter is a very capable wrestler and if he can continually take Rich Franklin down he may edge out a decision. It’s either Franklin by KO or Lutter by Unanimous decision.

There must be a typo on this page because when i read it said that Rich Franklin was fighting in Montreal. I thought Rich only fought in Ohio. Why is Dana making him fight somewhere other than his hometown? He won’t have the advantage in montreal of being a local boy.

this is a good match up, and i wouldnt count lutter out.

Lutter sucks!Franklin will destroy him.

Lutter will dictate and control the match with his game. Yeah he is one dimensional but that one dimension is way too much for Rich’s ground skills. Lutter know he messed up with his weight against Anderson. He will not let this chance slip away. Everyone picks Franklin to destroy him but that is because Rich is a just familiar face to them.

Oh man, I’ve even thought about this match before. I agree that you can’t count Lutter out. I believe if Lutter wasn’t so tired from attempting to cut weight, he could’ve finished Silva in the first round, possibly by arm bar or something.

Yeah, yeah, everyone calls Lutter one-dimensional. That’s what Cote said and look at how quick that dude submitted.

My money is on Lutter.

I can’t see him getting K.O.’d by Franklin.

We haven’t really seen Lutter much to really know, but he seemed to cakHe nearly beat Silva while half-dead. Have any idea what sitting hours in a sauna does to your stamina before fighting a guy like Silva? Even exhausted, Lutter mounted Silva and started pounding. No one else has mounted Silva yet.

ewalk thru the Ultimate Fighter 4. Sure he lost against Matt Lindland several years ago, and even that fight was very close. And I’m sure many things have changed since then.

I hope Silva beats Hendo too. I like both fighters, but I want to see Anderson keep it at least a little longer.

My money is on Lutter.

I can’t see him getting K.O.’d by Franklin.

 He nearly beat Silva while half-dead. Have any idea what sitting hours in a sauna does to your stamina before fighting a guy like Silva? Even exhausted, Lutter mounted Silva and started pounding. No one else has mounted Silva yet.

We haven’t really seen Lutter much to really know, but he seemed to cakewalk thru the Ultimate Fighter 4. Sure he lost against Matt Lindland several years ago, and even that fight was very close. And I’m sure many things have changed since then as far as Lutter’s skill.

I hope Silva beats Hendo too. I like both fighters, but I want to see Anderson keep it at least a little longer.

rich is going to regian his belt