Unanimous Decision? UFC brass offer Machida a fight with Ortiz

I would like to see that fight.

first …big names…but has the making of a boring 3 rounder i think

this looks like a great fight on paper….but, if it makes the third round, i can see alot of ground and hug.

I don’t think Tito will take fight. I would like to see Tito take on the challenge and come back with some drive and motivation like the old Jacob with no fence grabbing and some ground and pound. (I think the last time we saw signs of that was in the 1st round against Forest.)

Ehh this fights is a bore !!

Machida v Liddell. Tito v Wanderlei

If Tito Ortiz does not take this fight, HE IS A BITCH of a coward!

C’mon Tito, MAN UP!!! This is something I wanna see!!

Tito needs to be in shape. In his last couple fights he has looked good for the first 2 minutes of the first round, then nothing!

i pick tito by rape

I think Tito only looks good when he is fighting a 40ish Shamrock. He hasn’t had a good fight since then: Liddell, Forest then Rashad. I think is should stick with TV and doing Jenna.

EVERYBODY SHOULD LAY OFF TITO HE BEAT RASHAD BUT HE GOT CHEATED …HE DID BEAT EVERYBODYS HERO FORREST

Could be a good fight. I think I’ll have to pick Machida by submission in the second round.

I think Tito would win this fight by boring decision. Machida has a good chance, but regardless of his past I think in this case it would be either a TKO or a submission following some dizzying strikes from standing.

Machida is the man. He doesn’t care what people think, hes out to win. He’s a smart athlete.

ortiz wins ground n pound

I would love this fight even if it did turn out boring. Ortiz does seem like he would be better style wise, but it’s hard to pick against Machida.

If the old Tito shows up, he could GnP Machida to a win

i would like to see this fight. if its a motivated tito, i see him taking it

Ortiz is all talk. I’m interested in seeing anyone beat the snot out of him. Feed Ortiz to Wandy for a snack.

IM A TITO FAN BUT ID RATHER SEE MACHIDA DESTROY OVERRATED CHUCK AND SEE TITO VS RASHAD REMATCH OR VS SHOGUN

IM A TITO FAN BUT ID RATHER SEE MACHIDA DESTROY OVERRATED CHUCK AND SEE TITO VS RASHAD REMATCH OR VS SHOGUN

What have you been smoking. Chuck over rated…..must be some good stuff your puffing on. Id like to see tito destroy machida! Talk about someone who should fight un aired fights. Machida of course

Machida – Tito, sounds good to me. When we are talking deserved fights for deserved opponents then I think it’s about time to give Machida a big name fight. Some of the upcomming fights for vacant or interum titles should be fun from a fans perspective, but I would have liked to see Ken-Flo get his chance.

Wishful thinking but I believe he has what it takes to give BJ or anyone for that matter at 155 one hell of a fight.

GOOD THING THEY SAVED CHUCK FROM MACHIDA

machida alway the way this will be a borefest but it has to be done cos tito is the gate keeper to the lw title machida via decision

you can do it jacob, bring it back to the OC BABY

IM A TITO FAN BUT ID RATHER SEE MACHIDA DESTROY OVERRATED CHUCK AND SEE TITO VS RASHAD REMATCH OR VS SHOGUN

do you think a guy who beat randy,couture,tito ortiz,babalu sobral, (ALL TWICE!) wanderlei silva,vitor belfort,

is still considered overated? learn MMA Boy..

Tito won’t take this fight. He is a business man first and foremost. It wouldn’t make any business sense since Machida would walk through him.

do you think a guy who beat randy,couture,tito ortiz,babalu sobral, (ALL TWICE!) wanderlei silva,vitor belfort,

is still considered overated? learn MMA Boy..

tot will pull another ooooo i cant fight f u UFC

lol wow i mean tito

EVERYBODY SHOULD LAY OFF TITO HE BEAT RASHAD BUT HE GOT CHEATED …HE DID BEAT EVERYBODYS HERO FORREST

I see Tito win this one:
1st round, GnP ,nasty elbows, cuts, blood, referee stopage.
Machida fans shouln’t worry he’ll recover to fight another day.

I see Tito win this one:
1st round, GnP ,nasty elbows, cuts, blood, referee stopage.
Machida fans shouln’t worry he’ll recover to fight another day.

i love this fight, tito will be destroyed..

i think tito is a step backwards for machida.machida should be in a no. 1 contenders elimination match with jardine with the winner to fight griffin/jackson.put tito in with alexander and lets have liddell/silva 2.

i think Machida will make Tito look silly.

Tito has to catch him first

i don’t see Tito catching him… and if he does, he’ll probably just get sweeped and Machida will wind up on top.

EVERYBODY SHOULD LAY OFF TITO HE BEAT RASHAD BUT HE GOT CHEATED …HE DID BEAT EVERYBODYS HERO FORREST

Rashad won the third round, that was clear. Its also clear that Tito grabbed the fence and lost his winning point in the second round. Tito is LUCKY he didnt lose that fight after his poor performance in round two. Come on man, be a fan but see things for how they really are.

i agree.

i don’t see Tito catching him… and if he does, he’ll probably just get sweeped and Machida will wind up on top.

EVERYBODY SHOULD LAY OFF TITO HE BEAT RASHAD BUT HE GOT CHEATED …HE DID BEAT EVERYBODYS HERO FORREST

He also lost to Forrest, but Forrest got cheated!

Machida would pick apart Ortiz. People say Machida would be overpowered, but just look at how he faired with Sudjokou, a much more powerful fighter than Ortiz! Lyoto would be fine against Tito and would have no problems against him. This would be an easy fight for Machida. Hes much smarter than Tito.

do you think a guy who beat randy,couture,tito ortiz,babalu sobral, (ALL TWICE!) wanderlei silva,vitor belfort,

is still considered overated? learn MMA Boy..

Bye, bye Tito…welkome Machida to the 205 pound elite.Machida via ground and pound.

I wish everyone would stop bashing Tito all the time… the only people he has lost to since 1999 were chuck and randy!!!!

Included in the many wins since then are Wanderlei, Forrest, Tanner, Belfort and Rashad (i know, i know but he would have won).

He is much more than just a gatekeeper to the light heavies and deserves a lot more respect than he is given.

This offer has been given to Tito when?? No response from Tito yet???

Tito would lose and I would buy the paper view just to see him lose. No response from tito because he knows he will lose.

Ortiz vs. Machida might be a boring fight. I want to see the UFC Match up Shogun and Wanderlie, makes sense both coming off losses. I have a feeling that both parties might have specified that they don’t want to fight eachother in there contract. We will see.

I dont want to see any “Marquee” match ups that involve Tito. The game has passed Tito by, and there are about 10 candidates that I would rather see Machida fight more then Tito. So far 2008 BLOWS. Joe Silva’s match making is on the decline…IT NEEDS TO GET BETTER.

Machida v Liddell. Tito v Wanderlei

Machida vs Alexander, Liddell vs Shogun, Wandy vs Sokoudju, Ortiz vs Thiago Silva

PhilQNY, ViolentMike: This past weekend I heard from a really reliable source that Takanori Gomi will fight Frankie Edgar at UFC 83. My source is the same guy who told me Arlovski would fight Werdum at UFC 70 months before the fight was ever announced. He also told me Karo would fight Burkman months before that was ever announced. Take it how u want it, but I really trust this source so I am expecting some kind of announcement about Gomi sometime soon.

I hear that Rashad Evans will be matched up against Tiago Silva in his next fight.

The only way this fight makes sense is if the UFC wants to give Machida a win over a big name opponent before setting him up for a title shot late in the year or early 2009. Machida has to be considered a top-5 LHW right now, and Tito is nowhere near the title picture.

For all the Tito lovers on here, his fight against Forrest should have been a draw (10-8 Tito round 1, 10-9, 10-9 Forrest in 2 and 3) and he would have lost badly to Rashad had he not saved himself from several slams and the subsequent GnP by grabbing the cage.

Tito did not beat forest and he did not beat rashad. The last fight he won was over a geriatric ken shamrock. Tito’s days are numbered unless he fights some real competition. This fight is a better opportunity for tito than it is for machida—he should take it.

I hear that Rashad Evans will be matched up against Tiago Silva in his next fight.

Looks like Rashad will finally get KTFO!

I am not a Tito fan but I would definately give him a better chance of beating Machida than Chuck, just because of his fighting style. I went for the upset with Jardine beating Chuck, but I did say that if it was Tito fighting Jardine, I would have given it 50/50. Standing up without doubt would have to go to Machida. If Tito takes him down then I would have said that would nutralise Machida greatest strengths and would have put him in Titos element, although Machida definately has a ground game. I don’t like Tito or his ground and pound, but he is very effective at it, and there isn’t a lot of fighters he cannot take down. I have not seen Machida under pressure before. Should be an interesting fight.

I would have liked to see a Machida vs. Thiago matchup. Thiago vs. Evans could be interesting, but I give the edge to Thiago. Machida vs. Tito is actually a dangerous matchup for Machida. Although I give him the edge, Tito is much bigger and will probably take him down and attempt to do some G&P on him until Machida’s BJJ gets him out of there. Still, the timing would favor a Machida vs. Thiago matchup NOW.

PhilQNY, ViolentMike: This past weekend I heard from a really reliable source that Takanori Gomi will fight Frankie Edgar at UFC 83. My source is the same guy who told me Arlovski would fight Werdum at UFC 70 months before the fight was ever announced. He also told me Karo would fight Burkman months before that was ever announced. Take it how u want it, but I really trust this source so I am expecting some kind of announcement about Gomi sometime soon.

awesome! youv’e been pretty dead on w/ some of these predictions. now if they could just get aoki and yamamoto. talk about excitement. could you imagine faber vs kid, aoki vs b.j., gomi vs guida!

Machida vs Alexander, Liddell vs Shogun, Wandy vs Sokoudju, Ortiz vs Thiago Silva

I’m not like most of the readers on here who are TITO Haters. I really do want to see him fight Machida, but I would understand if he declined. People have to understand that Tito Ortiz is looking out for his best interest, and if it doesn’t include Machida, than I respect him for not wanting to fight him. I’m not sure if Tito is past his prime yet, but I don’t think he is. He’s done to much for the UFC to go out on a down-note.

i see tito winning by ground and pound stoppage in this i dont think machida will be able to stop the takedowns and i have never seen anybody stop titos ground attacks

we have to remember on here too that ppl are talking about machida’s domination of soko but come on watching that fight soko wasnt himself for sure he choked under the bright lights and then machida dominated him. Tito has fought on the biggest stages against the biggest names and he wont tighten up like soko and let machida do whatever he wants. A motivated, healthy tito means a kind of boring three round decision victory over machida

EVERYBODY SHOULD LAY OFF TITO HE BEAT RASHAD BUT HE GOT CHEATED …HE DID BEAT EVERYBODYS HERO FORREST

No he didn’t get cheated he try to use the cage more than once to avoid being taken down and he got a point deducted for it. Tito wasn’t cheated, he cheated his self.

You want to talk about someone getting cheated forrest got cheated he beat Tito and everyone knows it including Tito.

You want to talk about someone getting cheated forrest got cheated he beat Tito and everyone knows it including Tito.

If you watched the fight than you know Forrest did not get cheated, I like forrest but the beating he took in the 1st round (I bet it was close to being stopped) kept Forrest from winning that fight, he did re-group well in the second and third round but it was to late, I think the scoring might have been some thing like this
round 1 30-27 Tito
round 2 29-29
round 3 30-29 Forrest
Like I said I am a Forrest fan but you have to call a spade a spade, everytime one of you favorite fighters loses you cant cry fowl….he was cheated this or the ref called it to early kinda thing…

If you watched the fight than you know Forrest did not get cheated, I like forrest but the beating he took in the 1st round (I bet it was close to being stopped) kept Forrest from winning that fight, he did re-group well in the second and third round but it was to late, I think the scoring might have been some thing like this
round 1 30-27 Tito
round 2 29-29
round 3 30-29 Forrest
Like I said I am a Forrest fan but you have to call a spade a spade, everytime one of you favorite fighters loses you cant cry fowl….he was cheated this or the ref called it to early kinda thing…

YES…the man finally returns….tito will crush this ndude machida..he better bring his a game cause ortiz is on a comback and ready nto kick some ass!!!!!!

who ever says tito doesnt have it anymore is retarded look who hes lost to and how, he lost to chuck twice the second time was stopped prematurely he did beat rashad evans tito would def beat machida

Tito vs Lee Murray part 2???

Forrest is not even one of my favorite fighters and I watched the fight. I just don’t think Tito won IMO.

problem is your “imo” does not count for anything its the judges score card that does.

who ever says tito doesnt have it anymore is retarded look who hes lost to and how, he lost to chuck twice the second time was stopped prematurely he did beat rashad evans tito would def beat machida

Tito grabbed the fence and still couldnt stop rashad from taking him down and rashand dealt out more damage..now this might be me but i dont see how you want to say that tito won that fight.Hell in the fans minds tito lost the griffin fight …Tito may be the gatekeeper but thats all he’ll ever be unless he brings something new to the table or remembers what his strengths are.

And the tito vs chuck 2 fight no that fight should have been stopped in an earlier round yea that stoppage was a little odd but ive seen worse.and to be honest he wasnt doing anything with his postitiong or really defending himself..putting your arms up and just laying there is not defending yourself

As much as I don’t like Ortiz, machida is just a plain SNOOZE FEST. He is good, but not exciting to watch. Let’s go Ortiz, ground him out in the first !!!!!!!

Tito can’t sign for this fight. Apparently he’s booked in to have his eyebrows bleached and his nails polished on the suggested date!!!! :)

Tito vs Lee Murray part 2???

Tito would get KTFO again!

lee murray face rape ko 1st round

tito will lose…

awesome! youv’e been pretty dead on w/ some of these predictions. now if they could just get aoki and yamamoto. talk about excitement. could you imagine faber vs kid, aoki vs b.j., gomi vs guida!

B.W. I would also love to see JZ grace the UFC lightweight division….he is a bigtime fighter who’s upcoming fight in April vs. Shinya Akoi should be GREAT!

If you watched the fight than you know Forrest did not get cheated, I like forrest but the beating he took in the 1st round (I bet it was close to being stopped) kept Forrest from winning that fight, he did re-group well in the second and third round but it was to late, I think the scoring might have been some thing like this
round 1 30-27 Tito
round 2 29-29
round 3 30-29 Forrest
Like I said I am a Forrest fan but you have to call a spade a spade, everytime one of you favorite fighters loses you cant cry fowl….he was cheated this or the ref called it to early kinda thing…

every judge could have easily scored the first round 10-8. If Forrest did win a round it was definitely the second one…and I think that he did win that round…the 3rd round was very even…Tito won it with a take down. Even Forrest has admitted that!
Yikes…Guys until Tito actually loses to someone besides a “Coutoure” or “Liddel” we have to stop counting him out. Machida was an underdog in his last fight and I think got lucky enough to catch Sokoudju sleeping/nervous/shitty in his first octagon fight-not unlike a lot of pride fighters in the octagon (hence shogun). Be realistic…healthy Tito treats a much smaller Machida like he treated a much older Shamrock…GnP probably in the first round…and then after that everyone will start saying that he can only win in the first round because then he gasses….oh the drama!

Machida vs Alexander, Liddell vs Shogun, Wandy vs Sokoudju, Ortiz vs Thiago Silva

i see tito winning by ground and pound stoppage in this i dont think machida will be able to stop the takedowns and i have never seen anybody stop titos ground attacks

Chuck stopped it and tko-ed him…..twice…

i think tito will still have a career in the ufc but his reign is long over.no one thinks twice about fighting tito any more.with all the new and up coming talent tito reign of terror is gone bye bye.he to worried about being a rock star and not a fighter.it is hard not to like him though….at least on my part.i’d pick tito by a long…very long 3 rnd decision…

Im a tito fan and i hope he takes this fight to a least try to shut up the people that are always saying hes wash up and taking about “old tito” all the time. He talks about wanting his title back but yet he wants to go into the movie buiness. So he needs to man up take this fight and win decisively or else he proves that hes washed up and doesnt want to fight anymore. And thats just plain disapointing.

What have you been smoking. Chuck over rated…..must be some good stuff your puffing on. Id like to see tito destroy machida! Talk about someone who should fight un aired fights. Machida of course[/quote]

Machida is the best!!!! he will the next Champ!!! his style is similar to Bruce Lee…So far I haven’t seen anyone come close to finishing him..so I don’t know why poeple say he’s borning (i guess if you don’t know martial art then you would think Machida is boring). Tito won’t have a chance with Machida…Haven’t you seen his last fight with Chuck, Tito can’t even throw a punch he look so slow…Machida will TKO him in the first 2 min.

PhilQNY, ViolentMike: This past weekend I heard from a really reliable source that Takanori Gomi will fight Frankie Edgar at UFC 83. My source is the same guy who told me Arlovski would fight Werdum at UFC 70 months before the fight was ever announced. He also told me Karo would fight Burkman months before that was ever announced. Take it how u want it, but I really trust this source so I am expecting some kind of announcement about Gomi sometime soon.

Oh shit, are you the guy “john” that was on the Sherdog forum that said Fedor had signed with teh UFC and was keeping it DL? And used that SAME evidanced “hey remember when I called that Werdum will fight AA?” I hope this turns out better then the Fedor thing did.

I don’t know if this will happen. I’d bet Tito will be asking for Shogun or Wanderlei next. Maybe even Jardine.

Although you might say Tito is a bad matchup for Lyoto since he’s a small LHW I still think he’d pull it off.

Surely the guy has to get a titleshot sooner or later.

everyone wants a piece of tito wanderlei, machida, evans, belfort if tito wants to be a contender he needs to start fighting again or he can pull a randy and go to hollywood he already has one foot in the door

I’m not like most of the readers on here who are TITO Haters. I really do want to see him fight Machida, but I would understand if he declined. People have to understand that Tito Ortiz is looking out for his best interest, and if it doesn’t include Machida, than I respect him for not wanting to fight him. I’m not sure if Tito is past his prime yet, but I don’t think he is. He’s done to much for the UFC to go out on a down-note.

Just come out and say it, you love Tito. Dude, your screen name is freaking PUNISHMENT!! If Tito is not past his prime like you say, why wouldn’t fighting Machida be in his best interest? Wouldn’t that be a great opportunity to show what he’s got?

IM A TITO FAN BUT ID RATHER SEE MACHIDA DESTROY OVERRATED CHUCK AND SEE TITO VS RASHAD REMATCH OR VS SHOGUN

Over Rated Chuck? Dud He has a who’s who resume of names that he has put to sleep. OVer Rated?

The light heavyweight division is Machida’s to lose.

At this point he is the most tactical fighter and he remains completely calm under pressure. He possesses a methodical approach unlike anything we’ve seen since Royce. He might night “finish” well enough for TV, but he’s unreal in his abilities.

As much as I enjoy watching Chuck and Tito (to a lesser extent, especially his recent stints) Machida has the chops to make them look like amateurs who don’t belong there.

I predict it’s only a matter of time before Machida is wearing the belt.

tito is in for a beating. fans who dont know the first thing about martial arts need to understand machida’s skill. hes evasive, quick , powerful. his groundwork is as good as his standup.

Machida has beat the likes of BJ penn, rich franklin, sokoudjou and stefan bonnar. tito should decline this fight as he has nor the skill or speed to keep up with machidas counters. machida’s style is the only obstacle in between him and a fight with a UFC"protected" fighter such as chuck liddell.

when machida wins this fight, mr dana white will be in the tough position of having to offer more than a has been. unfortunately for dana that machida is too good to loose and therefore he will have to live with the fact that his iminent lightheavyweight champions style doesnt please the crowds